Willis McGahee in 2010 (1 Viewer)

[MrSoup]

I need all the Baltimore homers to chime in on this for me.

Ray Rice is obviously the guy now.

What is McGahee's contract status? I'm a football fan and I try not to get wrapped up in the money aspect of the game. It helps that I also don't understand most of it. Will the Ravens bring him back in 2010?

Here is McGahee's contract via Rotoworld. What does all this mean? He will get paid $3.6 million in this year? That's a pretty hefty sum.

Sincerely,

Ray Rice Owner

EDITED to state the fact that I don't give a damn about McGahee or where he goes. This thread is all about Ray Rice in fact.

 

[az_prof]

I need all the Baltimore homers to chime in on this for me.

Ray Rice is obviously the guy now.

What is McGahee's contract status? I'm a football fan and I try not to get wrapped up in the money aspect of the game. It helps that I also don't understand most of it. Will the Ravens bring him back in 2010?

Here is McGahee's contract via Rotoworld. What does all this mean? He will get paid $3.6 million in this year? That's a pretty hefty sum.

Sincerely,

Ray Rice Owner

EDITED to state the fact that I don't give a damn about McGahee or where he goes. This thread is all about Ray Rice in fact.

Honestly, I don't know, but I do expect him to be cut and to go somewhere else where he will be given a chance to compete (Detroit???) for a year. Even if he stays, Ray Rice is clearly the featured back so I don't think this really matters. And if he goes they will want to have a big back to share some of the load to keep Rice fresh, but I think it is safe to assume that Rice gets AT LEAST the same amount of touches as he got this year, if not more. McClain is a RFA so I expect them to either resign McClain to be the primary backup to Rice or else they will let McClain walk and try to talk McGahee into renegotiating a longer, but cheaper contract. He would get security but less guaranteed money. At this point, I doubt the Ravens know--they are just planning for next week. And I fully expect the time share to continue in the playoffs as I get the impression that the Ravens want to protect Rice if at all possible from any unnecessary punishment because they know he is their future.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

No, he won't.

His contract is still relatively big for 2010 and he will likely be cut and hit the FA market.

2010: $3.6 million contract with $6.35 million cap charge (assuming a cap is in place, which looks very unlikely).

Assuming that he does not return, McGahee will either (A) get signed by a team as a probable starter or (B) be signed by a team to be the veteran part of a committee with a younger back.

If McGahee doesn't ask for stupid money then he might get (A), but more likely will be (B). Sadly, I think he does ask for stupid money and costs him time and opportunity.

The Ravens have Jalen Parmele chomping at the bit to back up Ray Rice.

 

[loose circuits]

Is $3.6 mil that bad for a quality back-up when your starter is getting paid 3rd round money so there isn't a whole lot invested at the position?

With the way McGahee played, I think he stays unless the Ravens want to eat up the dead cap space for an uncapped year because they would still take a significant cap hit with the remaining years on the contract and all the loot they gave him upfront. Obviously they are not gonna pay him 6 mil in 2011

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Is $3.6 mil that bad for a quality back-up when your starter is getting paid 3rd round money so there isn't a whole lot invested at the position?With the way McGahee played, I think he stays unless the Ravens want to eat up the dead cap space for an uncapped year because they would still take a significant cap hit with the remaining years on the contract and all the loot they gave him upfront. Obviously they are not gonna pay him 6 mil in 2011

Well, let's think on this.If 2011 is capped again (we'll see, but I'll play along) then if they wait to cut him then - if they keep the same rules as now for the current CBA - the year after the cut, all the dead money accelerates to that point.Right now McGahee has the following:2010: $6.35M Cap Charge ($3.6M salary)2011: $8.75M ($6M)2012: $9.25M ($6.5M)2013: $7.5M ($7.2M)So that means that $11.8M accelerates to 2011 - a hefty gamble to pay if they keep him for 2010 at the $3.6M in an uncapped year.The thought has always been that McGahee is a goner for 2010.

 

[loose circuits]

Is $3.6 mil that bad for a quality back-up when your starter is getting paid 3rd round money so there isn't a whole lot invested at the position?With the way McGahee played, I think he stays unless the Ravens want to eat up the dead cap space for an uncapped year because they would still take a significant cap hit with the remaining years on the contract and all the loot they gave him upfront. Obviously they are not gonna pay him 6 mil in 2011

Well, let's think on this.If 2011 is capped again (we'll see, but I'll play along) then if they wait to cut him then - if they keep the same rules as now for the current CBA - the year after the cut, all the dead money accelerates to that point.Right now McGahee has the following:2010: $6.35M Cap Charge ($3.6M salary)2011: $8.75M ($6M)2012: $9.25M ($6.5M)2013: $7.5M ($7.2M)So that means that $11.8M accelerates to 2011 - a hefty gamble to pay if they keep him for 2010 at the $3.6M in an uncapped year.The thought has always been that McGahee is a goner for 2010.

right, so they dump his salary so they don't take a cap hit in 2011. The 3.6 mil in itself is not that bad when you consider he looked pretty damn good and was a decent teammate...the thought from who? I doubt Harbaugh, Cameron, and Ozzie have even made up their mind yet and their collective opinion is all that really matters.

 

[saintfool]

i could easily see him cut and signed by the patriots.

 

[Portis 26]

i could easily see him cut and signed by the patriots.

They could then form a special Old Past-It Guys RBBC with Fred Taylor, Sammy Morris etc, which would frustrate fantasy owners on a weekly basis.

 

[Blackjacks]

I thought McClain was still the guy in Balt.

signed,

THE FANATIC

McGahee is gone. Expect to see him somewhere like a Detroit, Cleveland, Houston (probably not), Philly, Washington, Seattle or Tampa Bay

 

[Ravens]

He's gone.

They would have done it last year [prior to '09] but the cap hit was way too high.

 

[JohnnyU]

i could easily see him cut and signed by the patriots.

Why is everyone going to be cut and signed by the Patriots?

 

[JPeso]

McGahee won't be with the Ravens in 2010, but I wouldn't expect him to be signed to be a starter either.

 

[Moniker]

McGahee won't be with the Ravens in 2010, but I wouldn't expect him to be signed to be a starter either.

I don't know... the guy just turned 28 in October. He would be a good fit as starter for any of the "rebuilding" teams to allow them to concentrate on other areas of their team right now.

 

[Kit Fisto]

McGahee won't be with the Ravens in 2010, but I wouldn't expect him to be signed to be a starter either.

I don't know... the guy just turned 28 in October. He would be a good fit as starter for any of the "rebuilding" teams to allow them to concentrate on other areas of their team right now.

Like Detroit.

 

[hostile]

I thought McClain was still the guy in Balt.

signed,

THE FANATIC

McGahee is gone. Expect to see him somewhere like a Detroit, Cleveland, Houston (probably not), Philly, Washington, Seattle or Tampa Bay

I think these are the most likely landing spots.

 

[saintfool]

i could easily see him cut and signed by the patriots.

Why is everyone going to be cut and signed by the Patriots?

because they have done it before, especially at this position. think back to corey dillon several years ago. fred taylor this year even. maroney isn't the answer, clearly. sammy morris is too often injured, older and/or not an every down RB. faulk excels in his limited role. taylor never showed much with the pats. belichek has shown his willingness to take malcontents - not that willis is one really in baltimore - into the pats organization and use them to sometimes great effect. willis fits that mold, especially given the fact that BB has seen him up close in an important game.other teams could use him too. seattle leaps to mind, for example.

 

[JohnnyU]

i could easily see him cut and signed by the patriots.

Why is everyone going to be cut and signed by the Patriots?

because they have done it before, especially at this position. think back to corey dillon several years ago. fred taylor this year even. maroney isn't the answer, clearly. sammy morris is too often injured, older and/or not an every down RB. faulk excels in his limited role. taylor never showed much with the pats. belichek has shown his willingness to take malcontents - not that willis is one really in baltimore - into the pats organization and use them to sometimes great effect. willis fits that mold, especially given the fact that BB has seen him up close in an important game.other teams could use him too. seattle leaps to mind, for example.

It's not just RBs. Every time a player is cut the first thing posted in the SP is "Look for the Patriots to sign "enter name here". "

 

[gradin123]

Isn't 2010 suppose to be a uncapped year?

If so then paying $3.6 Million real dollars for a quality backup NFL RB isn't bad at all. The Ravens run the ball a ton. No one running back can handle the full load. I think they keep him especially if it is a uncapped year.

 

[UnknownCoach]

I think there is a good chance they'll keep him because Rice is so cheap and they rely so much on running the football.

If he is cut, he'll definately get a starting gig somewhere else. He'd be an upgrade for many teams. Maybe he'll even ask for his release and that's why he was so politically correct to the media in 2009.

 

[Moniker]

Isn't 2010 suppose to be a uncapped year?If so then paying $3.6 Million real dollars for a quality backup NFL RB isn't bad at all. The Ravens run the ball a ton. No one running back can handle the full load. I think they keep him especially if it is a uncapped year.

The $3.6M in 2010 isn't the problem. The problem will come in 2011 when his salary is $6M (which they won't pay). The uncapped year actually makes it easier to cut him now because the "cap hit" to cut him is 0. If the cap comes back in 2011 there is going to be a ton of dead money sitting on a real salary cap as McGahee's cap numbers for the rest of his contract are $8.75M in 2011, $9.25M in 2012 and $7.5M in 2013.It's easier for them to just cut him now and waste absolutely no cap space since it's looking like there will be no cap this season. Expect a lot of players to suffer the same fate.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

It's not just RBs. Every time a player is cut the first thing posted in the SP is "Look for the Patriots to sign "Brandon Marshall". "

 

[dmac37]

McGahee- He Gone

McClain- same role as this year

Parmele- takes over McGahee's role as back up / change of pace to Rice

Rice- STUD

 

[Mikey16x]

I think Rice needs a guy like McGahee to keep him fresh. Rice is a young guy but let's not forget... he does have a lot of miles on him from Rutgers. I'm not saying that he's a veteran or old by any means but if they feed him the ball 25+ times a game.. he going to tail off by the time he's 27.

 

[yellowdog]

McGahee- He GoneMcClain- same role as this yearParmele- takes over McGahee's role as back up / change of pace to RiceRice- STUD

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[az_prof]

I think Rice needs a guy like McGahee to keep him fresh. Rice is a young guy but let's not forget... he does have a lot of miles on him from Rutgers. I'm not saying that he's a veteran or old by any means but if they feed him the ball 25+ times a game.. he going to tail off by the time he's 27.

I think the whole idea of "tread" is a false one. As Couch Potato said: it isn't tread that matters it is age. And I would add: injuries. The fact that a player has alot of carries (in college or Pro) and hasn't been injured a lot tells me that he is durable--that's a good sign. Rather than looking at the weight of a RB or how many carries he has, I suspect that how often a player misses time due to injury is a better indication of the longevity of their career.

 

[gonzobill5]

McGahee- He GoneMcClain- same role as this yearParmele- takes over McGahee's role as back up / change of pace to RiceRice- STUD

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It seemed to me that McGahee was used this year more often as a closer than a change-of-pace back. Why don't you think McClain would be used in that way? Or why would Parmele be better suited to that role than McClain? Also, for those of you who watch a lot of Ravens games, how often was McClain used as a blocking fullback? How effective was he?

 

[dmac37]

McGahee- He GoneMcClain- same role as this yearParmele- takes over McGahee's role as back up / change of pace to RiceRice- STUD

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It seemed to me that McGahee was used this year more often as a closer than a change-of-pace back. Why don't you think McClain would be used in that way? Or why would Parmele be better suited to that role than McClain? Also, for those of you who watch a lot of Ravens games, how often was McClain used as a blocking fullback? How effective was he?

IMO McClain is more of a plodder, I think that showed in the playoff loss to the Titans in 2008. They tried to spell Rice with McGahee but the drop off was obvious and McGahee was more for goal line touches unless the game was out of hand. I think they held on to Parmele for 2010 when McGahee's contract goes up, time will tell.