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Willis McGahee not expected to start or be "featured" (1 Viewer)
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brakeyawself
Footballguy
Thats awful. I hope he gets traded.
kneeunthaface
Footballguy
It must be nice to make that kind of salary and have a boss that doesn't even make you work.
Mighty Mice
Footballguy
I fully expect Baltimore to run 30+ times in this game. Giving McGahee a "handful" leaves a lot of carries for Ray Rice or LeRon McClain. Too bad we didn't get to see them play week two to get more of an idea the distribution between those two.
Wk.1 McClain had 19 carries, 2 catches
Wk.1 Rice had 22 carries, 3 catches.
Here's an interesting stat - McClain had 14 of his 19 carries AFTER the 2:46 mark in the third quarter. 14 carries in the last ~17 minutes of the game.
Rice already had 19 touches at that point. The ratio for the first 43 minutes was 19:7 in favor of Rice. For the last 17 minutes, the ratio was 14:5 in favor of McClain.
What do I make of this dramatic shift?
1) Cameron not wanting to wear down Rice in his first game
2) The score being 17-3 at the time of the primary ball carrier shifting from Rice to McClain
3) Rice 4th quarter fumble returned by Cincy for a TD making it 17-10.
This was a convoluted scene BEFORE McGahee re-entered the picture. I really wanted to see the Baltimore ground game in week two, but Ike ruined that...
I think there is value here. Cameron gets production from the RB position, and McGahee/Rice/McClain = Talent.
Making a guess: Baltimore runs 32 times. If Willis gets his "handful" - I'll venture 10 carries - that leaves ~22 for the other guys. Rice gets most all of that, as he did previous to the shift when he hit 20 touches in the late 3rd against Cincy. Maybe a 15-7 split with McClain.
I hate that LT and McFadden made me have to try to figure this out for week 3...sigh...
Wk.1 McClain had 19 carries, 2 catches
Wk.1 Rice had 22 carries, 3 catches.
Here's an interesting stat - McClain had 14 of his 19 carries AFTER the 2:46 mark in the third quarter. 14 carries in the last ~17 minutes of the game.
Rice already had 19 touches at that point. The ratio for the first 43 minutes was 19:7 in favor of Rice. For the last 17 minutes, the ratio was 14:5 in favor of McClain.
What do I make of this dramatic shift?
1) Cameron not wanting to wear down Rice in his first game
2) The score being 17-3 at the time of the primary ball carrier shifting from Rice to McClain
3) Rice 4th quarter fumble returned by Cincy for a TD making it 17-10.
This was a convoluted scene BEFORE McGahee re-entered the picture. I really wanted to see the Baltimore ground game in week two, but Ike ruined that...
I think there is value here. Cameron gets production from the RB position, and McGahee/Rice/McClain = Talent.
Making a guess: Baltimore runs 32 times. If Willis gets his "handful" - I'll venture 10 carries - that leaves ~22 for the other guys. Rice gets most all of that, as he did previous to the shift when he hit 20 touches in the late 3rd against Cincy. Maybe a 15-7 split with McClain.
I hate that LT and McFadden made me have to try to figure this out for week 3...sigh...
I need to see the quote from the coaching staff. This beat writer has a vendetta against McGahee. Just because he doesn't want to see Willis succeed doesn't mean he won't.
ETA: I find it interesting that Dodds has Willis ranked #22RB this week in today's rankings.
On the other hand, if this report is accurate, it reminds me of the Larry Johnson situation.....why are they hating so much? Willis ain't the first guy to ever skip OTA's. He had a CAREER year his first one with Baltimore. Not like either of the other 2 lit the world on fire in week 1.
ETA: I find it interesting that Dodds has Willis ranked #22RB this week in today's rankings.
On the other hand, if this report is accurate, it reminds me of the Larry Johnson situation.....why are they hating so much? Willis ain't the first guy to ever skip OTA's. He had a CAREER year his first one with Baltimore. Not like either of the other 2 lit the world on fire in week 1.
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4 - Digit Shark
Footballguy
Little more info, with a few quotes here.
http://www.carrollcountytimes.com/articles...ports091908.txt
McGAHEE UPDATE: Although running back Willis McGahee is no longer listed on the injury report one month after undergoing arthroscopic surgery on his left knee, it doesn’t look like he’s going to be featured in the offense Sunday.
McGahee is expected to have a limited role with Ray Rice and Le’Ron McClain taking the majority of the carries.
"He’ll complement Le’Ron, you guys know how we feel about Le’Ron and his ability to play both positions," offensive coordinator Cam Cameron said. "Ray, he’s just getting better and better. Those are the two backs that we’re going with, and Willis’ role will increase."
McGahee rushed for 1,207 yards and seven touchdowns last season, but missed the majority of the offseason minicamps and admittedly reported to training camp out of shape.
When asked how much he expected to play, McGahee replied: "I don’t know. Sunday, I envision myself running out there playing a regular game and trying to make plays. I’m going to play, regardless of if I’m sharing or not. The knee is good. It’s just the act of me going out there and playing on the football field, knocking the rust off."
http://www.carrollcountytimes.com/articles...ports091908.txt
McGAHEE UPDATE: Although running back Willis McGahee is no longer listed on the injury report one month after undergoing arthroscopic surgery on his left knee, it doesn’t look like he’s going to be featured in the offense Sunday.
McGahee is expected to have a limited role with Ray Rice and Le’Ron McClain taking the majority of the carries.
"He’ll complement Le’Ron, you guys know how we feel about Le’Ron and his ability to play both positions," offensive coordinator Cam Cameron said. "Ray, he’s just getting better and better. Those are the two backs that we’re going with, and Willis’ role will increase."
McGahee rushed for 1,207 yards and seven touchdowns last season, but missed the majority of the offseason minicamps and admittedly reported to training camp out of shape.
When asked how much he expected to play, McGahee replied: "I don’t know. Sunday, I envision myself running out there playing a regular game and trying to make plays. I’m going to play, regardless of if I’m sharing or not. The knee is good. It’s just the act of me going out there and playing on the football field, knocking the rust off."
That quote by coach was from earlier in the week. All I know is FBG's and CBSsportsline and FFtoday all have him ranked as if he's going to play a normal role. As always, it depends on who your plan b is.
FantasyTrader
Footballguy
This blows. Really needed Willis to come back and immediately assume 20 carries a game.
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Bears_Man2
Footballguy
I think this turns into Denver East this year with a 3-head monster. I don't see Willis in Balt beyond 2008. I get the impression he wore out his welcome quickly with new staff coming in in bad condition.
1) rookie QB starting with the potential to go to a too-small troy smith at some point
2) WRs are either old (mason) or not good (clayton).
3) RB coming off career year.
So we're not going to make No. 3 the strength of our offense. Is Harbaugh trying to get fired after one year?
2) WRs are either old (mason) or not good (clayton).
3) RB coming off career year.
So we're not going to make No. 3 the strength of our offense. Is Harbaugh trying to get fired after one year?
brakeyawself
Footballguy
I never thought id read that this year. What the?
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
If the Ravens win this week and Flacco looks good, Troy Smith is not going to overtake him. Flacco is the future, Smith is a stopgap career backup. Why would they pull Flacco if he is serviceable?
Scooby1974
Footballguy
This split has more to do with McGahee coming off injury and being in bad shape than it does anything. Common sense says don't throw him out there on a knee that isn't 100% when you have two other guys that can help. Let Willis ease in, get him in shape, run the crap out of him and see where he takes you. Ray and McClain can take over next year.
Ketamine Dreams
Footballguy
IMO Rice should absolutely be owned in a 12 team league. The writing is on the wall with McGahee: malcontent, out of shape, apparently didn't know the playbook well, major injury history with recent "aggravation", and Rice and McClain getting a more prominent role. I'm not sure who you should drop, though. I'm not a big Michael Bush fan though.
JetMaxx
Footballguy
Pretty much exactly how I read it. Harbaugh is not the type of coach that will put up with a guy like McGahee coming in not ready physically or mentally. With Flacco, this team isn't ready to win this year but Harbaugh is building a program and the message sent to McGahee will be invaluable to the team's development in the years to come. Harbaugh will either see a dramatic change in McGahee next year and keep him or he will send him packing and use the cap space to help rebuild the defense or OL. My early guess is like BM2 said, a 3-head attack this year and then a Rice/Mclain/mid round draft pick combination next year.
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Uruk-Hai
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JH doesn't have a vendetta against either the Ravens or McGahee as far as I know & I read him everyday. Mike Preston (Sun columnist), on the other hand, hated Brian Billick & trashed the Ravens constantly.As I said in the (millionth other WM/RR) thread this a.m., I really see a play-it-by-ear approach in this game.
You guys want something definitive beforehand & I just don't think you're going to get it this week.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
Guess I'm starting this McLain in my larger leagues... he seem to do well Week 1
gianmarco
Footballguy
Why not go with Andre Hall?
I would be apprehensive with being too impressed with his numbers though. Not only is 1 game not a great sample size but it was also against Cincy....Choose my starters for Week 3?
The_Man
Footballguy
Make no mistake that Harbaugh is sending a message with this. Billick was a "player's coach" -- took things easy on them, wasn't strict, etc. Harbaugh came in and set a new tone, and many of the veterans bought in by doing all the OTAs, working hard in camp, etc.
McGahee did not work hard in the offseason. And then he needs to get scoped early in camp. All the veterans are watching -- were they suckers for buying into Harbaugh's program? Is McGahee going to breeze right back in after skipping all the hard work the rest of them put in?
So this is actually a dual message -- one to McGahee that he better get his rear in gear, and one to the rest of the team that the "star system" under Billick has now been dismantled.
That being said, I expect McGahee to get the message, and I expect him to be the main main within two weeks from now. Plus, with 15 straight weeks of games coming up, they're going to have to try to keep everyone fresh. I think it works out to be McGahee as the main guy, Rice to be the change-of-page/3rd down guy, and McClain to get a series as the main guy maybe every other quarter and also some third downs.
McGahee did not work hard in the offseason. And then he needs to get scoped early in camp. All the veterans are watching -- were they suckers for buying into Harbaugh's program? Is McGahee going to breeze right back in after skipping all the hard work the rest of them put in?
So this is actually a dual message -- one to McGahee that he better get his rear in gear, and one to the rest of the team that the "star system" under Billick has now been dismantled.
That being said, I expect McGahee to get the message, and I expect him to be the main main within two weeks from now. Plus, with 15 straight weeks of games coming up, they're going to have to try to keep everyone fresh. I think it works out to be McGahee as the main guy, Rice to be the change-of-page/3rd down guy, and McClain to get a series as the main guy maybe every other quarter and also some third downs.
gethugefast1
Footballguy
Interesting read on news from Fantasy Football Xtreme:
"While we respect the Baltimore Sun and all the reporters on staff over there, we just don't understand all this Willis McGahee reporting. What comments? There seems to be a whole lot of RBBC talk going on right now and it's all feeding off itself... yet the only thing being said by that Ravens' coaching staff is that the team wants to use all three of their backs. That doesn't mean much in this league and everyone needs to keep in mind that Cam Cameron threatened to bench Ronnie Brown last year right before Brown turned in to the best running back in football. Is there risk? Yes. Could a RBBC emerge this year? Yes, anything can happen, but we say don't sell low (surely test the waters, though) - We say wait and see what's what entering week 4. We have a better feeling about this situation than most Sites, that's for sure."
"While we respect the Baltimore Sun and all the reporters on staff over there, we just don't understand all this Willis McGahee reporting. What comments? There seems to be a whole lot of RBBC talk going on right now and it's all feeding off itself... yet the only thing being said by that Ravens' coaching staff is that the team wants to use all three of their backs. That doesn't mean much in this league and everyone needs to keep in mind that Cam Cameron threatened to bench Ronnie Brown last year right before Brown turned in to the best running back in football. Is there risk? Yes. Could a RBBC emerge this year? Yes, anything can happen, but we say don't sell low (surely test the waters, though) - We say wait and see what's what entering week 4. We have a better feeling about this situation than most Sites, that's for sure."
I think we need to take a step back here.
Other than the reference to utilizing a RRBC THIS week, I don't recall reading any quote from the Baltimore coaching staff noting that going forward, McGahee will have a "role" in the running game.
This appears to be blown out of proportion right now and complete speculation based on one quote for this week.
Cameron has said Willis' role will increase. Reading in between the lines, it appears that he's saying Willis will be eased back into it... I just can't see them phasing McGahee out like people are starting to speculate - it just doesn't make sense unless his knee is a mess (which I would assume it's not, given the injury report).
Other than the reference to utilizing a RRBC THIS week, I don't recall reading any quote from the Baltimore coaching staff noting that going forward, McGahee will have a "role" in the running game.
This appears to be blown out of proportion right now and complete speculation based on one quote for this week.
Cameron has said Willis' role will increase. Reading in between the lines, it appears that he's saying Willis will be eased back into it... I just can't see them phasing McGahee out like people are starting to speculate - it just doesn't make sense unless his knee is a mess (which I would assume it's not, given the injury report).
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poo flingin monkey
Footballguy
If I remember correctly the bulk of McClain's carries came after Rice fumbled. McClain ran hard an looked good. Unless your desperate all the Balt RB's are riding pine this week.
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McClain had 11 carries at the point of the fumble. He'd also carried the ball on 4 of the 5 rushes to start off the 4th prior to Rice mishap. Rice then had 4 more carries after the fumble.I'm thinking McClain was going to be carrying the ball to kill clock anyway since Rice already had almost 20 carries. About 60% (12 of 19) of McClain's carries came in the 4th and he looked pretty good in that role.
If I had to guess it looks like McGahee/Rice would share carries from the 1st quarter through the 3rd, giving way to McClain on short yardage and clock-killing time ...if they even have a lead in the 4th.
We'll see
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A bunch of experts who research all information heavily have concluded that he will be roughly RB22-28 this week, around the likes of FatDale, Thomas Jones, etc. Bottom of tier 2. I can live with that if that's how it pans out. Most projections on those sites have him at 14-16 carries. I've always felt like those sites do more research and know more than I do, so I go with their reccomendation on tough decisions like this. Like I said, it all depends on who your alternative is. My best would be Leon Washington, and I'm not excited about that.
gregjcross
Footballguy
Trust me, that Beat Writer does not have a vendetta against Willis McGahee. Once a player is on the injury rerport his performance suffers. Just becuase the rookie coach said "oh he'll be back in no time" in early August, it really means nothing. McGahee had surgery, like Ronnie Brown, and he is recovering. Also, they really like both Ray Rice and McClain, so its natural to work McGahee back at a conservative pace. If McGahee is a great player, he will show it in the next 4 weeks and nobody, beat writers or coaches will be holding him back. BsAL is going to run like mad so even two RBs could be succesful in this system.
I think you're mostly right, but I can tell you that a scope is remarkably recoverable. Like, walk out of there recoverable. They have you crutch it out of the hospital and at home that day just to prevent swelling, but you can get off your crutches and walk normally the next day. I think a lot of people hear "knee surgery" and picture something more severe than what a scope is. I used to.
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Sabertooth
Footballguy
Let's see here. New coach with McGahee completely under wraps. He says he'll start him but what the heck, it is only a divisional game, so we won't use him much. Let's give the ball to a rookie instead or a fullback.
This wreaks of coach speak and writer conjecture in my opinion. McGahee is by far their best chance to win and they'll ride him like a pony. He suited up two weeks ago but didn't play. But that game was a blowout.
I'd say Willis carries the ball more than 17 times.
This wreaks of coach speak and writer conjecture in my opinion. McGahee is by far their best chance to win and they'll ride him like a pony. He suited up two weeks ago but didn't play. But that game was a blowout.
I'd say Willis carries the ball more than 17 times.
Lash
Footballguy
by all means it's important for Willis to be fresh when the Ravens are 3-7
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
There's more to it than just getting over a scope, though. As The Man said in his excellent post, there are tons of variables in play here - a coaching staff sending a message to the team, a player who showed up out of shape & had trouble grasping the new offense, a rookie QB who needs everyone to be at or near the top of their games to have a chance at success, and the fact that Baltimore ran the ball well without the afore-mentioned troubled student against the Bengals. They're not "saving" McGahee in the sense that some in this thread seem to imply with sarcasm - whether they'd be 3-7 or 7-3 after 10 games has nothing to do with it. When Willis is 100% he gives them their best chance, but if he's not they have other options now. If I had to choose between WM & RR to start for me in FF, I'd feel a little better (but not much) with Rice this week. We know he can get 20 touches right now. We don't know if Willis can.
brakeyawself
Footballguy
Le'Ron McClain - 6'0 260lbs
Brandon Jacobs - 6'4 264lbs
Deuce McAllister - 6'1 232 lbs
TJ Duckett - 6'0 254 lbs
Jerome Bettis - 5'11 255 lbs
LenDale White - 6'1 235
Mike Alstott - 6'1 248 lbs
Michael Turner - 5'10 244 lbs
These are the guys I found most comparible in overall size/weight to McClain.
Jacobs I think is an anomoly of the bunch as he's 6'4, with a different build than the rest.
Lendale and Deuce dont make nearly the weight requirement.
That leaves Bettis, Ducket, and to some extent Alstott as the most comparible in height + weight.
I don't think he's at the Bettis level of talent. He rushed in the 4th to run the Clock, and he might be a good big runner, but I get the feeling he's got a lot more Duckett in him than Jerome. Jerome probably shouldnt have even been as good as he was, but he was full of the vite that makes players outperform their less than optimal physical abilities/structure. McClain might but I cant see how hed be better than McGahee or Rice for that matter as a feature back, or head of a RBBC. 260 pounds is a lot to carry on a 6'0 frame. Most likely hed fulfill the type of role Alstott did. Nice games here and there in garbage time or when the Starting back went down.
It all sounds motivational to me.
EDITED: Just edited in Turner after realizing he weighs 244lbs. Dont think McClain will be comparible to him though based on speed/ability.
Brandon Jacobs - 6'4 264lbs
Deuce McAllister - 6'1 232 lbs
TJ Duckett - 6'0 254 lbs
Jerome Bettis - 5'11 255 lbs
LenDale White - 6'1 235
Mike Alstott - 6'1 248 lbs
Michael Turner - 5'10 244 lbs
These are the guys I found most comparible in overall size/weight to McClain.
Jacobs I think is an anomoly of the bunch as he's 6'4, with a different build than the rest.
Lendale and Deuce dont make nearly the weight requirement.
That leaves Bettis, Ducket, and to some extent Alstott as the most comparible in height + weight.
I don't think he's at the Bettis level of talent. He rushed in the 4th to run the Clock, and he might be a good big runner, but I get the feeling he's got a lot more Duckett in him than Jerome. Jerome probably shouldnt have even been as good as he was, but he was full of the vite that makes players outperform their less than optimal physical abilities/structure. McClain might but I cant see how hed be better than McGahee or Rice for that matter as a feature back, or head of a RBBC. 260 pounds is a lot to carry on a 6'0 frame. Most likely hed fulfill the type of role Alstott did. Nice games here and there in garbage time or when the Starting back went down.
It all sounds motivational to me.
EDITED: Just edited in Turner after realizing he weighs 244lbs. Dont think McClain will be comparible to him though based on speed/ability.
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The_Man
Footballguy
I love how people in Baltimore, particularly the beat writers who cover the team for hours every day and are privvy to insider information that maybe they're not allowed to attribute but are certainly aware of, are being portrayed as the out of touch people in this thread.
Look, I'm not a McGahee owner, so I have no personal stake in this, other than being a Baltimore homer. Like I said in post 22, if McGahee gets into shape and demonstrates a commitment to the team and to working hard, I believe he'll be the main man within 2 weeks from now. But he will not be the main man this week. There's no way he's starting and at best he'll get half the carries. Remember -- in Harbaugh's very first game as a head coach, with a rookie QB, vs. a divisional opponent, he let McGahee suit up and then kept him on the bench all game.
You don't think that's sending a message? Actually, I think that long-term this probably plays to McGahee owners' advantage. The only knock on him (other than his rubber band knee from college) is his effort. My guess is that within 2-3 weeks, we'll be seeing a highly motivated McGahee. But I wouldn't count on him this week for FF purposes.
Look, I'm not a McGahee owner, so I have no personal stake in this, other than being a Baltimore homer. Like I said in post 22, if McGahee gets into shape and demonstrates a commitment to the team and to working hard, I believe he'll be the main man within 2 weeks from now. But he will not be the main man this week. There's no way he's starting and at best he'll get half the carries. Remember -- in Harbaugh's very first game as a head coach, with a rookie QB, vs. a divisional opponent, he let McGahee suit up and then kept him on the bench all game.
You don't think that's sending a message? Actually, I think that long-term this probably plays to McGahee owners' advantage. The only knock on him (other than his rubber band knee from college) is his effort. My guess is that within 2-3 weeks, we'll be seeing a highly motivated McGahee. But I wouldn't count on him this week for FF purposes.
Beat writers who may not have much to writer about can easily write on this info. I've seen various other posts on these beat writers by Balt. locals who've said to take their writing with a grain of salt.Atleast we're one day and a week away from determining how they really plan to use McGahee. That's clearly the only way it's going to be settled - we can speculate all day long.
Given the coaching staff quotes during the week - I'd tend agree - they clearly are going to ease him back into it.
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two_dollars
Footballguy
I don't own the guy, but I do like the guy. It's really too bad the coaching staff in Baltimore is so stupid, or holds things too personally. When they figure out McGahee is their best chance to win, they'll have to put him in regardless. I really hope he gets out of that offensive black hole called Baltimore and gets to a place that can use his talents before it's too late.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
But you ought to know as well as anyone that Mike Preston's writing means no more than my 7th grade cousin's.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
You will soon find out that Ray Rice is better than Willis McGahee. The knee is what it is.
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His knee is fine. After 380 carries last season, a strenuous off season spent getting in shape for the his pro workouts and being forced to log most of the carries during training camp it's Ray Rice who I expect to fade.
Aug. 17, 2008 - 9:33 a.m. ET
Ravens coach John Harbaugh emphasized that there is no running back controversy despite Ray Rice's excelling against the Vikings stout defense Saturday night.
"When Willis is healthy and ready to go, he’s our starter, but both those guys will play," Harbaugh said. There's been some thought all along that Rice would work his way into the picture and thereby affect McGahee's value. That remains a possibility, especially if the team brings McGahee back cautiously from his arthroscopic knee surgery.
This is what Harbaugh has been saying all along. I don't expect one week against the Bengals to change that.
All this is just "coach speak". Sure Ray Rice and Mclain will have roles and get carries. However, the Ravens are probably going to run it 35+ times as someone mentioned earlier.
My expectation is that Willis will get roughly 60-65% of those. That's about 21-23 carries per game. Rice and Mclain will split the other 12-14 between them.
Willis has also been running with the first team since Wednesday by the way.
We'll all have to wait to see on Sunday, but the above is how I see it shaking out.
Ravens coach John Harbaugh emphasized that there is no running back controversy despite Ray Rice's excelling against the Vikings stout defense Saturday night.
"When Willis is healthy and ready to go, he’s our starter, but both those guys will play," Harbaugh said. There's been some thought all along that Rice would work his way into the picture and thereby affect McGahee's value. That remains a possibility, especially if the team brings McGahee back cautiously from his arthroscopic knee surgery.
This is what Harbaugh has been saying all along. I don't expect one week against the Bengals to change that.
All this is just "coach speak". Sure Ray Rice and Mclain will have roles and get carries. However, the Ravens are probably going to run it 35+ times as someone mentioned earlier.
My expectation is that Willis will get roughly 60-65% of those. That's about 21-23 carries per game. Rice and Mclain will split the other 12-14 between them.
Willis has also been running with the first team since Wednesday by the way.
We'll all have to wait to see on Sunday, but the above is how I see it shaking out.
3C's
Footballguy
"Willis McGahee will play in Week 3, but is not expected to return to the lineup as a starter or be used as a feature back."
It may be that people are reading too much into that. I believe that all that's saying is that McGahee will not be heavily used in week 3, not that he won't be the featured back as the season progresses.
It may be that people are reading too much into that. I believe that all that's saying is that McGahee will not be heavily used in week 3, not that he won't be the featured back as the season progresses.
If this is true, Ray Rice should have had a better game against the Bengals in Week 1. Instead, he forced them to rely on McClain. I am sitting McGahee and Rice this week and hoping it's McGahee's job full-time next week.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
You are one of the most condescending posters on here. Probably why nobody listens to your opinions. You must not have seen where the great Ray Rice was shown up by a fullback against the lowly Bengals a few weeks ago.
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meanjoegreen
Footballguy
He said a few months ago he wasn't coming back to the Shark Pool after he got a time out, and he also got busted using alias accounts that would support one another in threads. Why can't people do what they say they are going to do?
meanjoegreen
Footballguy
I agree. They probably want to get some of that rust shaken off of Willis, before he is the starter again.3C said:
Steelers4Life
Footballguy
I don't understand why this is really news.
The guy had knee surgery.
He's working his way back.
They have two other capable alternatives to lessen his workload for now.
And when he's all the way back, he's the best RB on the roster, including Rice.
He'll be starting and carrying 70% of the load again within 2 or 3 weeks, as soon as he shows he's capable.
The guy had knee surgery.
He's working his way back.
They have two other capable alternatives to lessen his workload for now.
And when he's all the way back, he's the best RB on the roster, including Rice.
He'll be starting and carrying 70% of the load again within 2 or 3 weeks, as soon as he shows he's capable.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
I don't know why this is so hard to understand. You're not going to get a "Willis is 100% the guy" in time to make a decision for this game. It's not going to happen folks. He may go off, he may not. No one knows (& won't by 4:15 today either) how ready he is. Start or bench him at your own risk, but we're going to have to watch the game to see what the reality is. I certainly wouldn't play him if I had any kind of alternative.
