Wind-Aided Long Field Goal (1 Viewer)

[Johnny Rock]

Greg Zuerlein just kicked a 61-yard FG with the wind for the Rams at Vikings that the announcers thought might have been good from 71 yards. Wind is approximately 19 mph in Minneapolis today. Not sure about the exact wind speed at TCF Bank Stadium.

Shouldn't kicks be broken into two categories, FGs and Wind-Aided FGs? Kind of like in track and field.

Anything over 5 mph? 7 mph? At elevation might be another *.

7th longest in NFL history so not a big deal for the record book, but what if it was 71 yards?

 

[thayman]

No.

 

[KingPrawn]

You mean your league doesn't penalize points for wind-aided FGs?

 

[Johnny Rock]

No.

So you're cool if the NFL record would get obliterated due to 20 mph winds helping a FG? I'm not. But I'm guessing that people won't hold it in the same light as a normal long FG so an asterisk isn't necessary if everyone considers it cheapened anyway.

 

[⚡DEADHEAD⚡]

What about elevation aided?

 

[thayman]

No.

So you're cool if the NFL record would get obliterated due to 20 mph winds helping a FG? I'm not. But I'm guessing that people won't hold it in the same light as a normal long FG so an asterisk isn't necessary if everyone considers it cheapened anyway.

Yes

 

[Avery]

No.

So you're cool if the NFL record would get obliterated due to 20 mph winds helping a FG? I'm not. But I'm guessing that people won't hold it in the same light as a normal long FG so an asterisk isn't necessary if everyone considers it cheapened anyway.

Do you happen to know the wind speed of previous NFL record FGs?

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

No.

So you're cool if the NFL record would get obliterated due to 20 mph winds helping a FG? I'm not. But I'm guessing that people won't hold it in the same light as a normal long FG so an asterisk isn't necessary if everyone considers it cheapened anyway.

Yes

 

[Willie Neslon]

Absurd

 

[[scooter]]

 

[Utter Chaos]

While we're at it we can break down QB interceptions into two categories, bad throws and tipped by the receiver.

 

[KingPrawn]

What about wind-aided TDs or yards for the RBs? Clearly if the wind is at their back they will be much quicker. They do it in track.

 

[spider321]

Zuerlein has the strongest leg I have ever seen in a kicker.

His accuracy isn't always the best, but I'd bet he's capable of a 71 yarder without the wind.

 

[Mr.Pack]

No.

 

[Mr.Pack]

No.

So you're cool if the NFL record would get obliterated due to 20 mph winds helping a FG? I'm not. But I'm guessing that people won't hold it in the same light as a normal long FG so an asterisk isn't necessary if everyone considers it cheapened anyway.

Yes

 

[the rover]

No.

So you're cool if the NFL record would get obliterated due to 20 mph winds helping a FG? I'm not. But I'm guessing that people won't hold it in the same light as a normal long FG so an asterisk isn't necessary if everyone considers it cheapened anyway.

Do you happen to know the wind speed of previous NFL record FGs?

0. There has never been wind in an NFL game before. Thus the asterisk.

 

[AAABatteries]

Maybe the ball was overflated too

 

[ROCKET]

That's why I always go for dome kickers

 

[spider321]

The man who held the record for the longest field goal for 43 years literally had a club for a shoe, and he never had an asterisk.

 

[belljr]

What about wind aided touchdown passes

 

[Johnny Rock]

While we're at it we can break down QB interceptions into two categories, bad throws and tipped by the receiver.

Elias should go back and compute passing yards and YAC separately too. Historical numbers would be fun to view.

 

[Kevrunner]

After you finish with your kicker crusade, I hope you turn your attention to how wind effects the punters.

 

[Uncle Grandpa]

Great thread. You can never have enough dialogue about kickers, IMO.

 

[KingPrawn]

Great thread. You can never have enough dialogue about kickers, IMO.

This is much bigger than kickers! The NFL needs to adjust for wind-aided stats for ALL players. Just think of the injustices.

 

[Ladsud]

Its kickers, who cares.

 

[fatness]

What about wind-aided swallows?

 

[HughHoney]

 

[Johnny Rock]

After you finish with your kicker crusade, I hope you turn your attention to how wind effects the punters.

Wind doesn't effect the punters.

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

What about wind-aided swallows?

African or European?

 

[Bri]

Greg Zuerlein just kicked a 61-yard FG with the wind for the Rams at Vikings that the announcers thought might have been good from 71 yards. Wind is approximately 19 mph in Minneapolis today. Not sure about the exact wind speed at TCF Bank Stadium.

Shouldn't kicks be broken into two categories, FGs and Wind-Aided FGs? Kind of like in track and field.

Anything over 5 mph? 7 mph? At elevation might be another *.

7th longest in NFL history so not a big deal for the record book, but what if it was 71 yards?

I think you're making an assumption that the others on the list weren't with the wind.

Maybe also that it's super easy if you have the wind. Some times when announcers say the wind is behind them it's truly diagonal and not as easy as it would seem.

Temperature affects the football and it's flight.

Rain, snow

Altitude used to be discussed.

In the 80s, some of the best teams had outstanding kickers and punters and some of this carried over into the 90s then died. Today we only discuss FG % and occasionally XP %.

No one cares about coffin corners, hang time, or kickoffs out of the end zone assuring no return.

100 years ago, Reggie Roby punted 75 -80 yards in the air with an incredibly long hang time. Pats punter Camarillo punted the ball probably 60 yards but it rolled another 29 yards for an 89 yard punt. People did discuss that Roby's punt was probably better despite Camarillo having the record.

Sean Landeta punted four or so coffin corners in one game and the gmen won like 6-3 or 9-6. IDK remember what Parcells said but somehow they started keeping track of coffin corners for a year or two then dropped it. I've never seen a stat since

Well back to Kickers, Adam Vinatieri is certainly one of the top scorers in NFL history and (although JWB has a heart attack if you say it) one of the best kickers ever. When's the last time you saw a Vinatieri article? Did you notice anything of Morten Anderson retiring years back?

Sorry for long reply, trying to put in context how simply no one cares anymore

 

[Uncle Grandpa]

After you finish with your kicker crusade, I hope you turn your attention to how wind effects the punters.

Wind doesn't effect the punters.

If this thread is to serve one purpose it's that both of you learn that "effect" is a noun and "affect" is a verb.

 

[Squintz82]

I think defensive statistics should take crowd noise into consideration.

 

[mr roboto]

While we're at it we can break down QB interceptions into two categories, bad throws and tipped by the receiver.

Elias should go back and compute passing yards and YAC separately too. Historical numbers would be fun to view.

Actually I noticed yesterday on NFL.com mobile site the live game trackers did this. It would say something like ' Mariota pass deep right to Walker pass 7 yds YAC 15 yds.'

 

[Arodin]

After you finish with your kicker crusade, I hope you turn your attention to how wind effects the punters.

Wind doesn't effect the punters.

If this thread is to serve one purpose it's that both of you learn that "effect" is a noun and "affect" is a verb.

Since we are being grammar pedants, "effect" can also be a verb. Since wind does not cause punters to come into existence, however, this is not relevant to the present context. We could however, discuss punters effecting kicks into the wind...

 

[Uncle Grandpa]

After you finish with your kicker crusade, I hope you turn your attention to how wind effects the punters.

Wind doesn't effect the punters.

If this thread is to serve one purpose it's that both of you learn that "effect" is a noun and "affect" is a verb.

Since we are being grammar pedants, "effect" can also be a verb. Since wind does not cause punters to come into existence, however, this is not relevant to the present context. We could however, discuss punters effecting kicks into the wind...

I wasn't being a pedant. I was just trying to help people learn through a hard and fast grammar rule that's helped me in the past. I'm not sure what your intent is.

 

[Joe Summer]

The man who held the record for the longest field goal for 43 years literally had a club for a shoe, and he never had an asterisk.

There should be an asterisk for steel-toe-aided kicks.

 

[dirtyjay]

Seems to me the OP lost on a long FG yesterday.

 

[T J]

No.

So you're cool if the NFL record would get obliterated due to 20 mph winds helping a FG? I'm not. But I'm guessing that people won't hold it in the same light as a normal long FG so an asterisk isn't necessary if everyone considers it cheapened anyway.

It would have to be a perfect storm again for it to be broken. I'd have no problem with it whatsoever.

 

[Fat Nick]

What about wind-aided TDs or yards for the RBs? Clearly if the wind is at their back they will be much quicker. They do it in track.

So many things to say about this statement...

 

[Fat Nick]

...and regarding the field goals - no. Just take the longest distance. If you start categorizing, you'll need a record for indoor/outdoor, turf/natural grass, altitude of the kick, barometric pressure, pressure of the ball, ambient temperature, type of football, and probably a ton more.

 

[Wildcat]

Worst. Thread. Ever.

 

[BobbyLayne]

I reached a 575 yard par 5 with a driver & a 5 iron, then sank the 30 foot eagle putt. It was wind aided, dry and downhill. NGAF. They don't ask you how, they ask you how many.

Tom Dempsey kicked a 63 yard field goal with a special shoe that had a flat steel plate on the end of his kicking foot. Nobody has every pondered if that gave him an advantage. When a mother####er makes a 63 yard FG with a half of a foot, just say congrats.

 

[SeanTaylor21]

I had to forfeit my punt, pass, and kick trophy due to tailwind on my championship launches.

 

[Dizzy]

Ugh, I'm going back to the Christine Michael thread for some serious football talk.

Good day sirs!

 

[Arodin]

After you finish with your kicker crusade, I hope you turn your attention to how wind effects the punters.

Wind doesn't effect the punters.

If this thread is to serve one purpose it's that both of you learn that "effect" is a noun and "affect" is a verb.

Since we are being grammar pedants, "effect" can also be a verb. Since wind does not cause punters to come into existence, however, this is not relevant to the present context. We could however, discuss punters effecting kicks into the wind...

I wasn't being a pedant. I was just trying to help people learn through a hard and fast grammar rule that's helped me in the past. I'm not sure what your intent is.

My intent is the same as yours: education.

Grammar fluency...a dying art.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Maybe the ball was overflated too

I was thinking the NE kicker has been getting screwed all these years.

 

[bigfeet_88]

After you finish with your kicker crusade, I hope you turn your attention to how wind effects the punters.

Wind doesn't effect the punters.

This punter disagrees with you.

 

[KingPrawn]

What about wind-aided TDs or yards for the RBs? Clearly if the wind is at their back they will be much quicker. They do it in track.

So many things to say about this statement...

 

[The Claymaker]

Good day sirs!

Now, did you say that in your best (Gene Wilder) Willie Wonka voice? If so, I would like to add an additional like.

 

[ghostguy123]

No.

So you're cool if the NFL record would get obliterated due to 20 mph winds helping a FG? I'm not. But I'm guessing that people won't hold it in the same light as a normal long FG so an asterisk isn't necessary if everyone considers it cheapened anyway.

So are we going to do this when QBs have a huge game playing in ideal conditions? WRs who have 300 yards receiving cause the DB falls down 3 times? RBs who get 45 carries in a blowout against a bad defense? A defense giving up 10 total yards cause of a massive blizzard and wind?

It's an NFL record, not an Olympic record for an individual sports.

Very odd thing to complain about.