WIS 2012: Back to the Future II - Draft and Season Thread (1 Viewer)

[RnR]

FYI: Haven't seen a good team posted yet.

 

[oso diablo]

FYI: Haven't seen a good team posted yet.

how quickly we all forget. at the start of the sim last year, pretty much everyone hated their team.

 

[RnR]

FYI: Haven't seen a good team posted yet.

how quickly we all forget. at the start of the sim last year, pretty much everyone hated their team.

Some of these folks should hate their team this year as well.

 

[the moops]

11.12 Angel Pagan - OF, NYM

 

[SoCalBroncoFan]

FYI: Haven't seen a good team posted yet.

how quickly we all forget. at the start of the sim last year, pretty much everyone hated their team.

Some of these folks should hate their team this year as well.

Well, I hate yours...

 

[rodg12]

I'll join in...

1. Jimmy Rollins, SS

2. Cameron Maybin, LF

3. Jacoby Ellsbury, CF

4. Eric Hosmer, 1B

5. Dustin Ackley, 2B

6. Russell Martin, C

7. TBD

8. TBD

9. pitcher

1. Jon Lester

2. Jeremy Hellickson

3. Gavin Floyd

4. Jair Jurrjens

5. Ivan Nova

Pretty happy with things so far...

 

[RnR]

FYI: Haven't seen a good team posted yet.

how quickly we all forget. at the start of the sim last year, pretty much everyone hated their team.

Some of these folks should hate their team this year as well.

Well, I hate yours...

I'd expect nothing less from the untrained eye. There are no cookies in this league, folks.

 

[Kraft...]

11.13 NorthernVoice - OTC Clock up @ XX:28

11.14 ChemX

11.15 Kraft

11.16 HoosFirst

11.17 OsoDiablo

11.18 Bogart

11.19 Arsenal

11.20 SpartansRules

11.21 DougB

11.22 DocDeGreco

11.23 TRE

11.24 SoCalBroncoFan

 

[Sammy3469]

FYI: Haven't seen a good team posted yet.

how quickly we all forget. at the start of the sim last year, pretty much everyone hated their team.

Some of these folks should hate their team this year as well.

You will too when every ball hit to the outfield falls in for a hit.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

11.12 Angel Pagan - OF, NYM SF

 

[Northern Voice]

11.13 - Henderson Alvarez, Blue Jay SP

 

[the moops]

1. Reyes, SS

2. Headley, 3B

3. Howard, 1B

4. Napoli, C

5. Hart, RF

6. Jennings, LF

7. Pagan, CF

8. 2B

1. Luebke

2. Gio

3. Baker

4. Teheran

 

[RnR]

FYI: Haven't seen a good team posted yet.

how quickly we all forget. at the start of the sim last year, pretty much everyone hated their team.

Some of these folks should hate their team this year as well.

You will too when every ball hit to the outfield falls in for a hit.

Do you have a starting pitcher yet, Chief?

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

FYI: Haven't seen a good team posted yet.

how quickly we all forget. at the start of the sim last year, pretty much everyone hated their team.

Some of these folks should hate their team this year as well.

You will too when every ball hit to the outfield falls in for a hit.

Boesch-Kubel-Quentin!

 

[Northern Voice]

FWIW,

C Ramos

1B Votto

2B Altuve

SS Jeter

3B Lawrie

OF Ichiro

OF Rios

SP Darvish

SP Romero

SP ASanchez

SP Alvarez

 

[Sammy3469]

FYI: Haven't seen a good team posted yet.

how quickly we all forget. at the start of the sim last year, pretty much everyone hated their team.

Some of these folks should hate their team this year as well.

You will too when every ball hit to the outfield falls in for a hit.

Do you have a starting pitcher yet, Chief?

Do they have to be good?

 

[SoCalBroncoFan]

FYI: Haven't seen a good team posted yet.

how quickly we all forget. at the start of the sim last year, pretty much everyone hated their team.

Some of these folks should hate their team this year as well.

You will too when every ball hit to the outfield falls in for a hit.

Do you have a starting pitcher yet, Chief?

Do they have to be good?

When you play against me, I would say no.And In This Format good has a different meaning than in other sims.

 

[Sammy3469]

FYI: Haven't seen a good team posted yet.

how quickly we all forget. at the start of the sim last year, pretty much everyone hated their team.

Some of these folks should hate their team this year as well.

You will too when every ball hit to the outfield falls in for a hit.

Do you have a starting pitcher yet, Chief?

Do they have to be good?

When you play against me, I would say no.And In This Format good has a different meaning than in other sims.

WINNINGand I know the second part is true...still won't be good

 

[jfranco77]

Sure, why not:1 De Aza, Alejandro OF2 Prado, Martin 3B3 Gonzalez, Adrian 1B4 Avila, Alex C5 Duda, Lucas OF6 Francoeur, Jeff OF7 Aybar, Erick SS SP1 Price, David SPSP2 Pineda, Michael SPCL Papelbon, Jonathan RP...A lot of fluidity here, of course. Aybar could hit earlier in the order if he has a return to his 2009 numbers, but that might have been an aberration. Prado should again qualify at 3B, as Chipper Jones should skip a sufficent number of starts. That's not in stone either -- Prado could just as well end up in my OF.

Playing a guy with C+ or C range in CF is good for 10-15 minus plays, and it gets worse from there. Maybe ADA will be better than I think but I'm guessing you still need to draft a CF. Pineda is going to give up 40 HRs in Yankee Stadium (though he could still have a good WHIP and decent ERA, the sim will magnify his HR issues). I do like Price, Duda, Aybar, Avila and Gonzalez. And I think Paps will be a monster. So I'd say this group is OK, with a couple of glaring issues (and still needing a lot of SPs)

 

[jfranco77]

I'll join in...1. Jimmy Rollins, SS2. Cameron Maybin, LF3. Jacoby Ellsbury, CF4. Eric Hosmer, 1B5. Dustin Ackley, 2B6. Russell Martin, C7. TBD8. TBD9. pitcher1. Jon Lester2. Jeremy Hellickson3. Gavin Floyd4. Jair Jurrjens5. Ivan NovaPretty happy with things so far...

This is my favorite team so far (much better than mine). I think you can find a usable 3B and 3rd OF. Rotation is outstanding and lineup is stacked.

 

[jfranco77]

1. Reyes, SS2. Headley, 3B3. Howard, 1B4. Napoli, C5. Hart, RF6. Jennings, LF7. Pagan, CF8. 2B1. Luebke2. Gio3. Baker4. Teheran

I thought Luebke was a major reach, but somehow your team still looks solid. Getting 400+ PAs from Howard would really help. Early reports are positive.

 

[Sammy3469]

Something like:

1. Phillips 2B

2. Posey C

3. Berkman 1B

4. Bautista OF

5. BJ Upton CF

6. Cespedes OF

7. Moustakas 3B

8. Furcal SS

SP Johan Santana

SP Collmenter

RP Romo

Bombs away

 

[jfranco77]

FWIW,C Ramos1B Votto2B AltuveSS Jeter3B LawrieOF IchiroOF RiosSP DarvishSP RomeroSP ASanchezSP Alvarez

If only Darvish actually went to the Jays. Your team is so.... Canadian. Alvarez seems like a reach (is he even in the rotation?) and you need Lawrie to be as good as advertised. But the "what if the Jays traded for Votto like they were rumored to do, signed Darvish and kept Rios" theme is working so far.

 

[SoCalBroncoFan]

Something like:1. Phillips 2B2. Posey C3. Berkman 1B4. Bautista OF5. BJ Upton CF6. Cespedes OF7. Moustakas 3B8. Furcal SSSP Johan SantanaSP CollmenterRP RomoBombs away

If Santana has a setback or Collmenter doesnt make the rotation you are screwed even worse. Could we have our first team that didnt have enough innings to field a team?At least you have Romo for the ninth!

 

[Chemical X]

david robertson, rp, janks

 

[Sammy3469]

Something like:1. Phillips 2B2. Posey C3. Berkman 1B4. Bautista OF5. BJ Upton CF6. Cespedes OF7. Moustakas 3B8. Furcal SSSP Johan SantanaSP CollmenterRP RomoBombs away

If Santana has a setback or Collmenter doesnt make the rotation you are screwed even worse. Could we have our first team that didnt have enough innings to field a team?At least you have Romo for the ninth!

Plenty of talent still available!

 

[Kraft...]

11.15 - Homer Bailey, SP

 

[scoobus]

Be kind...

1 Drew Stubbs CF

2 Shin-Soo Choo LF

3 Albert Pujols 1B

4 Adrian Beltre 3B

5 Jay Bruce OF

6 awesome C

7 superstar 2B

8 Alcides Escobar SS

SP Chris Carpenter

SP Brandon Morrow

SP Jhoulys Chacin

SP Jake Peavy

backup/trade bait: David Ortiz

 

[cheese]

Something like:1. Phillips 2B2. Posey C3. Berkman 1B4. Bautista OF5. BJ Upton CF6. Cespedes OF7. Moustakas 3B8. Furcal SSSP Johan SantanaSP CollmenterRP RomoBombs away

It's surprising to me how many teams took an extreme approach one way or the other. If you're going to go all out on offense though, I think you nailed it.FWIW, I don't think Johan is a good fit. IMO What you need is a bunch of usable innings to make your onslaught of offense count. Taking a stab at a potential ace who may not even be usable seems off. The good news with the strategy you've used is that you can probably count on a ton of ABs from those guys and take as many shots as you want on pitchers for the next 15 rounds. You will probably need as many bullets as possible though because picking pitchers this late, even the safe picks are risky.

 

[Hoos First]

Josh Tomlin

 

[Northern Voice]

FWIW,C Ramos1B Votto2B AltuveSS Jeter3B LawrieOF IchiroOF RiosSP DarvishSP RomeroSP ASanchezSP Alvarez

If only Darvish actually went to the Jays. Your team is so.... Canadian. Alvarez seems like a reach (is he even in the rotation?) and you need Lawrie to be as good as advertised. But the "what if the Jays traded for Votto like they were rumored to do, signed Darvish and kept Rios" theme is working so far.

I need some things to break right for sure. Among Jays fans/media, Alvarez is generally considered the #3. Not going to say more than that til more guys are drafted.

 

[cheese]

Be kind...1 Drew Stubbs CF2 Shin-Soo Choo LF3 Albert Pujols 1B4 Adrian Beltre 3B5 Jay Bruce OF6 awesome C7 superstar 2B8 Alcides Escobar SSSP Chris CarpenterSP Brandon MorrowSP Jhoulys ChacinSP Jake Peavybackup/trade bait: David Ortiz

Really like this roster. Nitpicking, but as a Reds fan I will be floored if Stubbs has an OBP anywhere near good enough to bat leadoff. Lineup construction isn't a big deal, but leadoff can be a crappy hole to have.

 

[Eephus]

Sure, why not:1 De Aza, Alejandro OF2 Prado, Martin 3B3 Gonzalez, Adrian 1B4 Avila, Alex C5 Duda, Lucas OF6 Francoeur, Jeff OF7 Aybar, Erick SS SP1 Price, David SPSP2 Pineda, Michael SPCL Papelbon, Jonathan RP...A lot of fluidity here, of course. Aybar could hit earlier in the order if he has a return to his 2009 numbers, but that might have been an aberration. Prado should again qualify at 3B, as Chipper Jones should skip a sufficent number of starts. That's not in stone either -- Prado could just as well end up in my OF.

Playing a guy with C+ or C range in CF is good for 10-15 minus plays, and it gets worse from there. Maybe ADA will be better than I think but I'm guessing you still need to draft a CF. Pineda is going to give up 40 HRs in Yankee Stadium (though he could still have a good WHIP and decent ERA, the sim will magnify his HR issues). I do like Price, Duda, Aybar, Avila and Gonzalez. And I think Paps will be a monster. So I'd say this group is OK, with a couple of glaring issues (and still needing a lot of SPs)

If DeAza plays everyday CF in real-life, his range should be OK. There's been some talk of that happening on the South Side with Alexis Rios moving to a corner. My guess is the Sox will move their OFs around which will hurt both DeAza and Rios in the si.

 

[Hoos First]

My team is too bad to post. Not sure what I've been doing with my picks.

 

[jfranco77]

Something like:1. Phillips 2B2. Posey C3. Berkman 1B4. Bautista OF5. BJ Upton CF6. Cespedes OF7. Moustakas 3B8. Furcal SSSP Johan SantanaSP CollmenterRP RomoBombs away

It's surprising to me how many teams took an extreme approach one way or the other. If you're going to go all out on offense though, I think you nailed it.FWIW, I don't think Johan is a good fit. IMO What you need is a bunch of usable innings to make your onslaught of offense count. Taking a stab at a potential ace who may not even be usable seems off. The good news with the strategy you've used is that you can probably count on a ton of ABs from those guys and take as many shots as you want on pitchers for the next 15 rounds. You will probably need as many bullets as possible though because picking pitchers this late, even the safe picks are risky.

Hard to say. I had a stacked lineup last year and got bounced in round 1 because I had no ace. Maybe my offense wasn't stacked enough. I agree with you about the sure things - I would have probably gone with a bit more sure thing than Moose and Cespedes and then drafted 20 SPs.

 

[Kraft...]

11.17 OsoDiablo - OTC Clock up @ XX:03

11.18 Bogart

11.19 Arsenal

11.20 SpartansRules

11.21 DougB

11.22 DocDeGreco

11.23 TRE

11.24 SoCalBroncoFan

 

[oso diablo]

11.17 Justin Morneau - 1B

ouch

 

[the moops]

My team is too bad to post. Not sure what I've been doing with my picks.

I just looked it up on the google doc. Holy ####

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

11.17 Justin Morneau - 1B

ouch

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[larry_boy_44]

CF Weeks/Cain

SS Starlin Castro

OF/UT Emilio Bonificio

2B Rickie Weeks

1B ????

3B Jed Lowrie

CA Jesus Montero

OF ????

SP Justin Verlander

SP Yovani Gallardo

SP Brandon McCarthy

CL John Axford

depending on how Cain does and if he gets enough PAs, he might just lead off himself, maybe play Nyjer at #9 to maximize his PAs, although since he's really only valuable against pitchers from the right side, I don't really need to do that... I'll probably just find a different platoon partner...

I should have really good D in the outfield, not as good in the infield...

 

[Eephus]

My team is too bad to post. Not sure what I've been doing with my picks.

I just looked it up on the google doc. Holy ####

In retrospect, throwing back Babe Ruth to pick up Torii Hunter wasn't the shark move

 

[Bogart]

Playing catch up. Give me a few.

 

[Eephus]

OK RMT

1B Smoak

2B Cano

3B Hanley (SS if I can get away w/ it. Reyes isn't exactly Cal Ripken III)

OF Nelson Cruz

CF Chris Young

OF Cuddyer (hoping for some positional flexibility here as well)

SP Bumgarner

SP Oswalt

SP Cahill

SP E. Jackson

RP Jansen

 

[Sammy3469]

Something like:1. Phillips 2B2. Posey C3. Berkman 1B4. Bautista OF5. BJ Upton CF6. Cespedes OF7. Moustakas 3B8. Furcal SSSP Johan SantanaSP CollmenterRP RomoBombs away

It's surprising to me how many teams took an extreme approach one way or the other. If you're going to go all out on offense though, I think you nailed it.FWIW, I don't think Johan is a good fit. IMO What you need is a bunch of usable innings to make your onslaught of offense count. Taking a stab at a potential ace who may not even be usable seems off. The good news with the strategy you've used is that you can probably count on a ton of ABs from those guys and take as many shots as you want on pitchers for the next 15 rounds. You will probably need as many bullets as possible though because picking pitchers this late, even the safe picks are risky.

Hard to say. I had a stacked lineup last year and got bounced in round 1 because I had no ace. Maybe my offense wasn't stacked enough. I agree with you about the sure things - I would have probably gone with a bit more sure thing than Moose and Cespedes and then drafted 20 SPs.

I agree Cespedes is questionable, but 3B is/was a wasteland at that point. Having 5 good guys is nice, but I'm pretty firm in thinking that I needed to be 7 deep on offense with at least decent-ish defense.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

CF Weeks/Cain

SS Starlin Castro

OF/UT Emilio Bonificio

2B Rickie Weeks

1B ????

3B Jed Lowrie

CA Jesus Montero

OF ????

SP Justin Verlander

SP Yovani Gallardo

SP Brandon McCarthy

CL John Axford

depending on how Cain does and if he gets enough PAs, he might just lead off himself, maybe play Nyjer at #9 to maximize his PAs, although since he's really only valuable against pitchers from the right side, I don't really need to do that... I'll probably just find a different platoon partner...

I should have really good D in the outfield, not as good in the infield...

 

[larry_boy_44]

I'm surprised at the amount of guys from my team last year drafted already...

Ryan Braun

Rickie Weeks

Billy Butler

Lucas Duda

CoCo Crisp

Josh Willingham

John Axford

Jordan Zimmermann

Daniel Hudson

Jake Peavy

Eric Bedard

Josh Tomlin

Rafael Furcal

although, the only ones that I don't understand are Bedard and Furcal... plus if Martinez wouldn't be out for the year, he'd have been drafted already as well...

 

[Brady Marino]

CF Weeks/Cain

SS Starlin Castro

OF/UT Emilio Bonificio

2B Rickie Weeks

1B ????

3B Jed Lowrie

CA Jesus Montero

OF ????

SP Justin Verlander

SP Yovani Gallardo

SP Brandon McCarthy

CL John Axford

depending on how Cain does and if he gets enough PAs, he might just lead off himself, maybe play Nyjer at #9 to maximize his PAs, although since he's really only valuable against pitchers from the right side, I don't really need to do that... I'll probably just find a different platoon partner...

I should have really good D in the outfield, not as good in the infield...

at bold italics for position in lineup...far down from the legendary Bonifacio.

 

[larry_boy_44]

CF Weeks/Cain

SS Starlin Castro

OF/UT Emilio Bonificio

2B Rickie Weeks

1B ????

3B Jed Lowrie

CA Jesus Montero

OF ????

SP Justin Verlander

SP Yovani Gallardo

SP Brandon McCarthy

CL John Axford

depending on how Cain does and if he gets enough PAs, he might just lead off himself, maybe play Nyjer at #9 to maximize his PAs, although since he's really only valuable against pitchers from the right side, I don't really need to do that... I'll probably just find a different platoon partner...

I should have really good D in the outfield, not as good in the infield...

what?I mean, yeah, i spelled it wrong (Bonifacio, sorry)... But he's the starting CF for the Marlins... and, if his career is any indication, he could get playing time at 2B, SS, and 3B when those guys miss some games... I'm hoping he does (as he'd then be my backup, as of now, at those spots)...

last year he played 63 games total in the OF and he had A-/D defense in WIS... this year being the starting CF he should have better range and I don't see why he would suddenly stop being able to catch the ball...

 

[larry_boy_44]

CF Weeks/Cain

SS Starlin Castro

OF/UT Emilio Bonificio

2B Rickie Weeks

1B ????

3B Jed Lowrie

CA Jesus Montero

OF ????

SP Justin Verlander

SP Yovani Gallardo

SP Brandon McCarthy

CL John Axford

depending on how Cain does and if he gets enough PAs, he might just lead off himself, maybe play Nyjer at #9 to maximize his PAs, although since he's really only valuable against pitchers from the right side, I don't really need to do that... I'll probably just find a different platoon partner...

I should have really good D in the outfield, not as good in the infield...

at bold italics for position in lineup...far down from the legendary Bonifacio.

Montero might end up higher, but that depends on PAs...and, yeah, you're right, Bonifacio would probably be my #2 or #1 hitter, not my #3, so swap him and Castro...

 

[Kraft...]

CF Weeks/Cain

SS Starlin Castro

OF/UT Emilio Bonificio

2B Rickie Weeks

1B ????

3B Jed Lowrie

CA Jesus Montero

OF ????

SP Justin Verlander

SP Yovani Gallardo

SP Brandon McCarthy

CL John Axford

depending on how Cain does and if he gets enough PAs, he might just lead off himself, maybe play Nyjer at #9 to maximize his PAs, although since he's really only valuable against pitchers from the right side, I don't really need to do that... I'll probably just find a different platoon partner...

I should have really good D in the outfield, not as good in the infield...

what?I mean, yeah, i spelled it wrong (Bonifacio, sorry)... But he's the starting CF for the Marlins... and, if his career is any indication, he could get playing time at 2B, SS, and 3B when those guys miss some games... I'm hoping he does (as he'd then be my backup, as of now, at those spots)...

last year he played 63 games total in the OF and he had A-/D defense in WIS... this year being the starting CF he should have better range and I don't see why he would suddenly stop being able to catch the ball...

Think it's the fact that you have him hitting 3rd is what's garnering the lol's