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WIS MMXI: Back to the Future Edition- Draft & Season Thread (3 Viewers)

Can one of the WIS veterans say how many:

a. total PAs we should have at each position

b. total IPs we should have for our SPs

c. total IPs we should have for our RPs

 
'scoobus said:
Can one of the WIS veterans say how many:

a. total PAs we should have at each position
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You need about 690 PAs out of your leadoff slot and about 20 less for each successive spot in the order.
b. total IPs we should have for our SPs
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900-950, but you have to pay attention to the IP/G
c. total IPs we should have for our RPs
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500 or thereabouts.WIS gives everybody a 10% boost over their real-life IP & PAs

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'Eephus said:
You need about 690 PAs out of your leadoff slot and about 20 less for each successive spot in the order.
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C - 1 player, 502 PAs; solid1B - 1 player, 584 PAs; solid2B - 1 player, 469 PAs; ok3B - 1 player, 326 PAs; not goodSS/backup 2B/3B - 4 players, 1079 PAs, most of them awful... (Tejada/Furcal at SS, Schumacher at 3B occassionally)Jorge Posada (1B/2B/hopefully C) - 354 ok PAs with decent hitting (it'll help!)1B/OF - 1 player, 274 good PAsOF - 3 players, 1535 PAs, all very good (Crisp, Braun, Willingham)I think I'm ok with PAs... I might be starting Jorge Posada at 2B a couple times, but I'll make it... lol
900-950, but you have to pay attention to the IP/G
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1. 26 starts, 161.1 IP, done for season; 3.14 DICE2. 29 stsrts, 194 IP, 3.21 DICE; still going3. 17 starts (18 GP), 113 IP, 3.31 DICE, still going4. 22 starts, 123.1 IP, 3.51 DICE, still going5. 26 starts, 165.1 IP, 4.25 DICE, on DL (should be back)120 starts, 757 IP, ok DICE... :gulp:
500 or thereabouts.
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CL - 63.2 IP, 2.59 DICE; awesomeSU - 49.1 IP, 2.94 DICE; awesomeif Lidge can get 13.2 innings in Philly's next 26 games, I can use him...LR - 18 GP, 71.2 IP, 4 IP/G, 3.99 DICELR - 24 Starts, 145.2 IP, 4.57 DICE; not playing anymoreMU - 37.1 IP, 4.82 DICE, not playingMU - 53 IP, 6.09 DICE, not playingusable total: 358.2 IPtotal: 411.2 IPok, so I have 1170 IP... I'm screwed... lol especially since I only have, really, 3 starters (15 starts, 100 IP), and 3 RP (say 40 IP) left... so at best like 1200 IP... :gulp:anyone got a reliever they wanna trade? I got Jorge Posada at 2B!!!! lol
 
Up to 20th in TREStandings. VICTORY.

I'll have some crappy MI ABs to trade for a RP, and I do mean crappy. The pu pu platter of crap includes Aviles, Jack Wilson, Getz, Giovetella, Amirista, and Kipnis.

 
Now that the season is pretty much over, I'd like to ask a few things of the fantasy-baseball playing house:

1) Did the FBB community know before the season that Joe Mauer would miss 65+ games? Fantasy magazine I bought went to press in December or January, I think, and didn't even mention a health risk of any type.

2) Did the FBB community expect that Jason Kendall wouldn't play AT ALL in 2011?

3) Did the FBB community expect that Troy Glaus and Billy Wagner would at no point in 2011 play MLB?

4) Did the FBB community know that Magglio Ordonez was WAY past done? Seems like he was very good very recently ... but years run together in my head. 2005-2009 was like a big blur.

5) That James Loney was prone to 40-game slumps?

6) That Dayan Viciedo and Devin Mesoraco would have to wait until September to get called up?

7) That David DeJesus wouldn't break .235 BA?

Just seems like I stepped into so many piles of dog-schmidt while assembling this team. Wish I would have been more knowledgeable and had a better "Spidey sense" for this stuff like I do for fantasy football.

At my first pick, 1.15, I was evaluating Mauer vs Jose Bautista. My FBB magazine HATED Bautista ... I think they projected him for less than 20 HRs or something. I figured taking Bautista was the newbie move since he was "pretty much guaranteed to revert to the mean". Jebus.

 
'Doug B said:
Now that the season is pretty much over, I'd like to ask a few things of the fantasy-baseball playing house:1) Did the FBB community know before the season that Joe Mauer would miss 65+ games? Fantasy magazine I bought went to press in December or January, I think, and didn't even mention a health risk of any type.2) Did the FBB community expect that Jason Kendall wouldn't play AT ALL in 2011?3) Did the FBB community expect that Troy Glaus and Billy Wagner would at no point in 2011 play MLB?4) Did the FBB community know that Magglio Ordonez was WAY past done? Seems like he was very good very recently ... but years run together in my head. 2005-2009 was like a big blur.5) That James Loney was prone to 40-game slumps?6) That Dayan Viciedo and Devin Mesoraco would have to wait until September to get called up?7) That David DeJesus wouldn't break .235 BA?Just seems like I stepped into so many piles of dog-schmidt while assembling this team. Wish I would have been more knowledgeable and had a better "Spidey sense" for this stuff like I do for fantasy football.At my first pick, 1.15, I was evaluating Mauer vs Jose Bautista. My FBB magazine HATED Bautista ... I think they projected him for less than 20 HRs or something. I figured taking Bautista was the newbie move since he was "pretty much guaranteed to revert to the mean". Jebus.
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1. No. I took him high in a FBB draft and was disappointed.2-3. I thought all those guys retired. :shrug:4. Not sure about FBB but the Tigers fan community was well aware.5. Yes. He's been a fantasy disappointment for years.6. Callups are always dicey. This format is unique as far as that making a difference. 7. No, that was a surprise.
 
'Spartans Rule said:
'Doug B said:
Now that the season is pretty much over, I'd like to ask a few things of the fantasy-baseball playing house:1) Did the FBB community know before the season that Joe Mauer would miss 65+ games? Fantasy magazine I bought went to press in December or January, I think, and didn't even mention a health risk of any type.2) Did the FBB community expect that Jason Kendall wouldn't play AT ALL in 2011?3) Did the FBB community expect that Troy Glaus and Billy Wagner would at no point in 2011 play MLB?4) Did the FBB community know that Magglio Ordonez was WAY past done? Seems like he was very good very recently ... but years run together in my head. 2005-2009 was like a big blur.5) That James Loney was prone to 40-game slumps?6) That Dayan Viciedo and Devin Mesoraco would have to wait until September to get called up?7) That David DeJesus wouldn't break .235 BA?Just seems like I stepped into so many piles of dog-schmidt while assembling this team. Wish I would have been more knowledgeable and had a better "Spidey sense" for this stuff like I do for fantasy football.At my first pick, 1.15, I was evaluating Mauer vs Jose Bautista. My FBB magazine HATED Bautista ... I think they projected him for less than 20 HRs or something. I figured taking Bautista was the newbie move since he was "pretty much guaranteed to revert to the mean". Jebus.
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1. No. I took him high in a FBB draft and was disappointed.2-3. I thought all those guys retired. :shrug:4. Not sure about FBB but the Tigers fan community was well aware.5. Yes. He's been a fantasy disappointment for years.6. Callups are always dicey. This format is unique as far as that making a difference. 7. No, that was a surprise.
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Agree on almost all. Only points I differ on is I did think Kendall would play about half the year, and I'm not incredibly surprised that Dejesus has gotten worse going to Oakland (although I guess .233 is a pretty huge crash for him).
 
on the block:

Jorge Posada, officially qualifying at C/1B/2B...

has 355 PAs right now and is batting .241/.318/.406, which is a .724 OPS...

looking for pitching...

I know people are short at 2B and C (I'd be if it weren't for Martinez and having like 6 MI who all play part time), and he might have bad defense, but at least he'll qualify at that position (so the awful will be minimized)...

 
'larry_boy_44 said:
on the block:Jorge Posada, officially qualifying at C/1B/2B...has 355 PAs right now and is batting .241/.318/.406, which is a .724 OPS...looking for pitching...I know people are short at 2B and C (I'd be if it weren't for Martinez and having like 6 MI who all play part time), and he might have bad defense, but at least he'll qualify at that position (so the awful will be minimized)...
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Are you sure he's gunna qualify for 2B? He has like 1 inning played there, right?
 
'scoobus said:
'larry_boy_44 said:
on the block:Jorge Posada, officially qualifying at C/1B/2B...has 355 PAs right now and is batting .241/.318/.406, which is a .724 OPS...looking for pitching...I know people are short at 2B and C (I'd be if it weren't for Martinez and having like 6 MI who all play part time), and he might have bad defense, but at least he'll qualify at that position (so the awful will be minimized)...
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Are you sure he's gunna qualify for 2B? He has like 1 inning played there, right?
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from what WIS says, seemingly a guy gets a grade if he ever played at a position during that season... he might get somewhat penalized in his grade for not playing there often, but he should get penalized less than someone who didn't play there...he should even get a pretty decent 2b grade because he fielded a ball properly and made the play during that one inning.... so he'll have a 1.000 fielding percentage before the "didn't play enough penalty" (which would definitely be A+ if he had enough games)...
 
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'larry_boy_44 said:
'scoobus said:
'larry_boy_44 said:
on the block:Jorge Posada, officially qualifying at C/1B/2B...has 355 PAs right now and is batting .241/.318/.406, which is a .724 OPS...looking for pitching...I know people are short at 2B and C (I'd be if it weren't for Martinez and having like 6 MI who all play part time), and he might have bad defense, but at least he'll qualify at that position (so the awful will be minimized)...
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Are you sure he's gunna qualify for 2B? He has like 1 inning played there, right?
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from what WIS says, seemingly a guy gets a grade if he ever played at a position during that season... he might get somewhat penalized in his grade for not playing there often, but he should get penalized less than someone who didn't play there...he should even get a pretty decent 2b grade because he fielded a ball properly and made the play during that one inning.... so he'll have a 1.000 fielding percentage before the "didn't play enough penalty" (which would definitely be A+ if he had enough games)...
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He'll have a perfect FLD% but D--- range. His RF/G is only 1.0 compared to a league average of 4.7
 
'Eephus said:
'larry_boy_44 said:
'scoobus said:
'larry_boy_44 said:
on the block:Jorge Posada, officially qualifying at C/1B/2B...has 355 PAs right now and is batting .241/.318/.406, which is a .724 OPS...looking for pitching...I know people are short at 2B and C (I'd be if it weren't for Martinez and having like 6 MI who all play part time), and he might have bad defense, but at least he'll qualify at that position (so the awful will be minimized)...
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Are you sure he's gunna qualify for 2B? He has like 1 inning played there, right?
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from what WIS says, seemingly a guy gets a grade if he ever played at a position during that season... he might get somewhat penalized in his grade for not playing there often, but he should get penalized less than someone who didn't play there...he should even get a pretty decent 2b grade because he fielded a ball properly and made the play during that one inning.... so he'll have a 1.000 fielding percentage before the "didn't play enough penalty" (which would definitely be A+ if he had enough games)...
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He'll have a perfect FLD% but D--- range. His RF/G is only 1.0 compared to a league average of 4.7
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but still... if he's, say, C/D or even C/D- thats better than moving someone (other than a good SS) out of position to play there...
 
'larry_boy_44 said:
'Eephus said:
'larry_boy_44 said:
'scoobus said:
'larry_boy_44 said:
on the block:Jorge Posada, officially qualifying at C/1B/2B...has 355 PAs right now and is batting .241/.318/.406, which is a .724 OPS...looking for pitching...I know people are short at 2B and C (I'd be if it weren't for Martinez and having like 6 MI who all play part time), and he might have bad defense, but at least he'll qualify at that position (so the awful will be minimized)...
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Are you sure he's gunna qualify for 2B? He has like 1 inning played there, right?
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from what WIS says, seemingly a guy gets a grade if he ever played at a position during that season... he might get somewhat penalized in his grade for not playing there often, but he should get penalized less than someone who didn't play there...he should even get a pretty decent 2b grade because he fielded a ball properly and made the play during that one inning.... so he'll have a 1.000 fielding percentage before the "didn't play enough penalty" (which would definitely be A+ if he had enough games)...
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He'll have a perfect FLD% but D--- range. His RF/G is only 1.0 compared to a league average of 4.7
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but still... if he's, say, C/D or even C/D- thats better than moving someone (other than a good SS) out of position to play there...
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not necessarily...the D- doesn't matter since WIS uses the actual number. So you're getting that 1.00 RF for him at second no matter what while moving even say a OF with decent range there might in fact (and probably will be) better than 1.00. Errors themselves may vary, but at 1.00 RF, eephus would have a better chance of getting to the ball.
 
'Sammy3469 said:
'larry_boy_44 said:
'Eephus said:
'larry_boy_44 said:
'scoobus said:
'larry_boy_44 said:
on the block:Jorge Posada, officially qualifying at C/1B/2B...has 355 PAs right now and is batting .241/.318/.406, which is a .724 OPS...looking for pitching...I know people are short at 2B and C (I'd be if it weren't for Martinez and having like 6 MI who all play part time), and he might have bad defense, but at least he'll qualify at that position (so the awful will be minimized)...
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Are you sure he's gunna qualify for 2B? He has like 1 inning played there, right?
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from what WIS says, seemingly a guy gets a grade if he ever played at a position during that season... he might get somewhat penalized in his grade for not playing there often, but he should get penalized less than someone who didn't play there...he should even get a pretty decent 2b grade because he fielded a ball properly and made the play during that one inning.... so he'll have a 1.000 fielding percentage before the "didn't play enough penalty" (which would definitely be A+ if he had enough games)...
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He'll have a perfect FLD% but D--- range. His RF/G is only 1.0 compared to a league average of 4.7
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but still... if he's, say, C/D or even C/D- thats better than moving someone (other than a good SS) out of position to play there...
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not necessarily...the D- doesn't matter since WIS uses the actual number. So you're getting that 1.00 RF for him at second no matter what while moving even say a OF with decent range there might in fact (and probably will be) better than 1.00. Errors themselves may vary, but at 1.00 RF, eephus would have a better chance of getting to the ball.
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I can still get to most balls hit right at me.
 
How quick will WIS have the 2011 seasons loaded into their database? What's our estimated start time to crank this up?

 
I can move a pretty nice 260+ PA second baseman (either Freddie Sanchez or Ramon Santiago) for 300 PAs at catcher.

 
got a lot of guys available for innings, let me know if you have any interest... I'm putting them in tiers as far as value:

Victor Martinez, C - 595 PA .330/.380/.470 (would need C innings back if I trade him)

Billy Butler, 1B - 673 PA .291/.361/.461 19 HR

Josh Willingham, OF - 563 PA .246/.332/.477 29 HR

Coco Crisp, OF - 583 PS .264/.314/.379 49 SB

Lucas Duda, OF/1B - 347 PA .292/.370/.482 10 HR

Jorge Posada, C/1B/2B - 387 PA .235/.315/.398

wilson Betemit, 3B - 359 PA .285/.343/.452 8 HR

Rafael Furcal, SS - 369 PA .231/.298/.348 9 SB

Skip Schumaker, 2B/OF - 400 PA .283/.333/.351

Ruben Tejada, 2B/SS - 376 PA .284/.360/.335

Corey Patterson, OF - 397 PA .239/.273/.359 13 SB

Mitch Maier, OF - 113 PA .232/.345/.337

I'd also be willing to trade Counsell, Dyson (11 SB in 53 PA), Nieves (54 C PA), or Cust (270 useless PA)...

Braun and Weeks are, essentially, the only off-limit guys on my roster, although it would take quite a lot to convince me to trade a guy in the top tier...

 
From the WIS forums:

All,We will be working on the 2011 Teams and Players as soon as the final games of the season are played (most likely tomorrow due to the current ties for wild card). It usually takes a day to ready and test. So, they will most likely be ready Monday.Thanks
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Even though my team sucks I am still looking forward to see how this turns out.

Miguel Olivo - .224/.253/.388 507 PAs @ Catcher

Orlando Hudson - .246/.329/.352 454 PAs @ 2B sould be solid D

Avaliable for a 3B PAs or Pitching.

 
'boubucarow said:
Anybody interested in Juan Francisco (3B, 258/289/452 in 97 PA) and/or Will Rhymes (2B, 235/323/271 in 99 PA) for innings?
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I am only asking for a from 60-100 innings of a bad pitcher for both of these guys.And also, maybe Matt Tolbert who has played decent defense at 2B, 3B, and SS but is a poor hitter could be available as well for about a 100 inning pitcher.
 
'Arsenal of Doom said:
From the WIS forums:

All,We will be working on the 2011 Teams and Players as soon as the final games of the season are played (most likely tomorrow due to the current ties for wild card). It usually takes a day to ready and test. So, they will most likely be ready Monday.Thanks
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That's a lot sooner than I thought. That's good ... I'd like to look at defensive grades ASAP.
 
'Doug B said:
'Arsenal of Doom said:
From the WIS forums:

All,We will be working on the 2011 Teams and Players as soon as the final games of the season are played (most likely tomorrow due to the current ties for wild card). It usually takes a day to ready and test. So, they will most likely be ready Monday.Thanks
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That's a lot sooner than I thought. That's good ... I'd like to look at defensive grades ASAP.
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:goodposting: Really holding out on any major trading ideas until I'm sure how a few guys are rated.
 
I'm going to wait a week or so after the WIS 2011 player stats are available to set the league. This will give people a chance to assess their rosters, make trades, enjoy the playoffs and relax nerds.

 
i am trying to maintain my bullpen, my only chance to win maybe 35 games, so I am offering jose arredondo or ja happ for a 2b with 500 PAs.

 
This league is going to be fun.

Seems everyone thinks their team sucks because it isn't how they would've drafted it if things were drafted today. I suspect there will be a correction of expectations for a "usable" player once everyone figures out that no team is perfect. Much different than the themed leagues we've done in the past.

 
just checked, looks like 2011 is loaded......

jhonny peralta a+ !!!!!

josh thole went from A+ arm in 2010 to D in 2011!!!!!!!!!!!

 
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here's my strategy:

-i will trade either jason heyward or carl crawford........need full season PAs at 2b or 3b

-i will trade ryan dempster or jose arredondo........need full season PAs at 2b or 3b

then i can field a team

 
my team has B-/D+ defense... so at least they can get to things hit at them... that's a plus...

on the plus side my offense is going to be completely ridiculous...

trading block:

Lucas Duda

Rafael Furcal

Skip Schumaker

Corey Patterson

Craig Counsell

Ruben Tejada

other guys could be available for the right offers, but those are the main ones I'm looking to trade (as I wouldn't need anything to replace them as far as offensive PAs go)...

I need pitching in return...

 
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