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Wondering what to talk about over Thanksgiving? (1 Viewer)

danielmclark

Footballguy
He's not wrong. It's not about "pushing Obamacare" it's about helping the uninsured get covered. It says that, literally, right on the website:

If you have family members who are uninsured, you can play a big part in helping them find coverage that works for them.

Nothing wrong with that. Anyone who says differently is merely a partisan hack.

 

AAABatteries

Footballguy
He's not wrong. It's not about "pushing Obamacare" it's about helping the uninsured get covered. It says that, literally, right on the website:

If you have family members who are uninsured, you can play a big part in helping them find coverage that works for them.

Nothing wrong with that. Anyone who says differently is merely a partisan hack.
The problem is that at this point it's a highly politicized topic. At my house I don't want politics discussed at Thanksgiving and I don't care which side of the isle you are on.

 

Widbil83

Footballguy
What if one of your guests is one of the millions of people who have had there plans cancelled after they were told they could keep them by Obama numerous times? I don't see a talking point for that.

 

NCCommish

Footballguy
What if one of your guests is one of the millions of people who have had there plans cancelled after they were told they could keep them by Obama numerous times? I don't see a talking point for that.
Oh you mean people who had "insurance"? You know like the lady Fox had on that was moaning about losing her 50 a month "insurance" which didn't cover anything? Nothing. She paid 50 dollars a month for no hospitalization, no prescription help, nothing. She would essentially get 50 dollars back from them should anything happen. Yeah I weep for her and the millions like her.

 
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matuski

Footballguy
What if one of your guests is one of the millions of people who have had there plans cancelled after they were told they could keep them by Obama numerous times? I don't see a talking point for that.
Millions? Granted I refuse to watch any of the "news" stations, but I work in hospitals all day everyday and haven't seen this once. Plenty of things the surgeons whine about regarding ACA... this hasn't come up at all?

 

Apple Jack

Footballguy
I miss the good old days when things were light we were talking about sending kids to die in a war based on bs intelligence and paranoia, rather than getting people who don't have health insurance covered. It's all so heavy and terrifying now.

 

danielmclark

Footballguy
He's not wrong. It's not about "pushing Obamacare" it's about helping the uninsured get covered. It says that, literally, right on the website:

If you have family members who are uninsured, you can play a big part in helping them find coverage that works for them.

Nothing wrong with that. Anyone who says differently is merely a partisan hack.
The problem is that at this point it's a highly politicized topic. At my house I don't want politics discussed at Thanksgiving and I don't care which side of the isle you are on.
So if you know that someone in your family is uninsured, you wouldn't try to help them for fear of... what? Making them angry that there's a solution to their problem? If you heard about a good deal from a private insurer, would you bring that up?

I don't get the mentality that says "I recognize that you have a problem, but I don't want to be uncomfortable so I'm not going to allow discussion about its solution."

 

Apple Jack

Footballguy
He's not wrong. It's not about "pushing Obamacare" it's about helping the uninsured get covered. It says that, literally, right on the website:

If you have family members who are uninsured, you can play a big part in helping them find coverage that works for them.

Nothing wrong with that. Anyone who says differently is merely a partisan hack.
The problem is that at this point it's a highly politicized topic. At my house I don't want politics discussed at Thanksgiving and I don't care which side of the isle you are on.
So if you know that someone in your family is uninsured, you wouldn't try to help them for fear of... what? Making them angry that there's a solution to their problem? If you heard about a good deal from a private insurer, would you bring that up?

I don't get the mentality that says "I recognize that you have a problem, but I don't want to be uncomfortable so I'm not going to allow discussion about its solution."
The problem is that too many people are both emotional and irrational when discussing politics, and the likelihood that everybody in the room can do it in a measured manner and not bother those who don't want to hear it is very slim. No politics in bars or family gatherings.

 

danielmclark

Footballguy
The problem is that too many people are both emotional and irrational when discussing politics, and the likelihood that everybody in the room can do it in a measured manner and not bother those who don't want to hear it is very slim. No politics in bars or family gatherings.
I get that, I do. And we don't do politics at my house, either. But what I'm saying is that this isn't political. Doesn't have to turn into a political debate because the debate is over - it's the law, the programs are out there, and people need to be insured.

 

17seconds

root of all aliai
I've been an Obama supporter but I'm pretty sure he has the worst senior level and extended staff of any president in my lifetime.

 

Bull Dozier

Footballguy
The problem is that too many people are both emotional and irrational when discussing politics, and the likelihood that everybody in the room can do it in a measured manner and not bother those who don't want to hear it is very slim. No politics in bars or family gatherings.
I get that, I do. And we don't do politics at my house, either. But what I'm saying is that this isn't political. Doesn't have to turn into a political debate because the debate is over - it's the law, the programs are out there, and people need to be insured.
I didn't know that when things became law, there was no further debate on the subject. You know, things like abortion, gun control, the death penalty....

 

AAABatteries

Footballguy
He's not wrong. It's not about "pushing Obamacare" it's about helping the uninsured get covered. It says that, literally, right on the website:

If you have family members who are uninsured, you can play a big part in helping them find coverage that works for them.

Nothing wrong with that. Anyone who says differently is merely a partisan hack.
The problem is that at this point it's a highly politicized topic. At my house I don't want politics discussed at Thanksgiving and I don't care which side of the isle you are on.
So if you know that someone in your family is uninsured, you wouldn't try to help them for fear of... what? Making them angry that there's a solution to their problem? If you heard about a good deal from a private insurer, would you bring that up?

I don't get the mentality that says "I recognize that you have a problem, but I don't want to be uncomfortable so I'm not going to allow discussion about its solution."
Not at Thankgiving - happy to discuss it with them 1-on-1 outside that but it's neither the time nor the place. People come to family functions to see family, eat good food and relax, not discuss a hot-button topic that has turned political for a lot of people.

 

Warrior

Footballguy
What if one of your guests is one of the millions of people who have had there plans cancelled after they were told they could keep them by Obama numerous times? I don't see a talking point for that.
Oh you mean people who had "insurance"? You know like the lady Fox had on that was moaning about losing her 50 a month "insurance" which didn't cover anything? Nothing. She paid 50 dollars a month for no hospitalization, no prescription help, nothing. She would essentially get 50 dollars back from them should anything happen. Yeah I weep for her and the millions like her.
No, the other 999,999 that you didn't cherry pick.

 

Leroy Hoard

Footballguy
I miss the good old days when things were light we were talking about sending kids to die in a war based on bs intelligence and paranoia, rather than getting people who don't have health insurance covered. It's all so heavy and terrifying now.
Thanksgiving must have been a real hoot for familys during Vietnam.

 

matuski

Footballguy
What if one of your guests is one of the millions of people who have had there plans cancelled after they were told they could keep them by Obama numerous times? I don't see a talking point for that.
Oh you mean people who had "insurance"? You know like the lady Fox had on that was moaning about losing her 50 a month "insurance" which didn't cover anything? Nothing. She paid 50 dollars a month for no hospitalization, no prescription help, nothing. She would essentially get 50 dollars back from them should anything happen. Yeah I weep for her and the millions like her.
No, the other 999,999 that you didn't cherry pick.
Fox brought the one person in a million to their show?

 

DA RAIDERS

willy t flyers
What if one of your guests is one of the millions of people who have had there plans cancelled after they were told they could keep them by Obama numerous times? I don't see a talking point for that.
Oh you mean people who had "insurance"? You know like the lady Fox had on that was moaning about losing her 50 a month "insurance" which didn't cover anything? Nothing. She paid 50 dollars a month for no hospitalization, no prescription help, nothing. She would essentially get 50 dollars back from them should anything happen. Yeah I weep for her and the millions like her.
Aetna is canceling all private insurance in CA. My wife's ppo perfectly good insurance is no more as of 1/1/14

 

Ilov80s

Footballguy
Other suggested topics would be abortion, the eternal damnation of all non-believers, and if your one middle aged aunt is actually going to be single forever?

 

Zow

Footballguy
Other suggested topics would be abortion, the eternal damnation of all non-believers, and if your one middle aged aunt is actually going to be single forever?
My FIL can't wait to get on me for thinking that the Redskins should change their name. It'll be a hoot.

 

17seconds

root of all aliai
What if one of your guests is one of the millions of people who have had there plans cancelled after they were told they could keep them by Obama numerous times? I don't see a talking point for that.
Oh you mean people who had "insurance"? You know like the lady Fox had on that was moaning about losing her 50 a month "insurance" which didn't cover anything? Nothing. She paid 50 dollars a month for no hospitalization, no prescription help, nothing. She would essentially get 50 dollars back from them should anything happen. Yeah I weep for her and the millions like her.
Aetna is canceling all private insurance in CA. My wife's ppo perfectly good insurance is no more as of 1/1/14
This isn't necessarily directed at you, I don't know where you are on health insurance... But I don't understand the anti-Obamacare folks who abhor the idea of government health care and then complain when a private company cancels them. Are you expecting the government to step in now?

Either you want the government to control healthcare or you don't.

 

Ilov80s

Footballguy
Other suggested topics would be abortion, the eternal damnation of all non-believers, and if your one middle aged aunt is actually going to be single forever?
My FIL can't wait to get on me for thinking that the Redskins should change their name. It'll be a hoot.
Oh geez, sounds fun. My wife and I are doomed to be asked if we changed our minds about having kids every family holiday. I'm tempted one year just to give them what they want right on the dinner table.

 

Fennis

Footballguy
Other suggested topics would be abortion, the eternal damnation of all non-believers, and if your one middle aged aunt is actually going to be single forever?
My FIL can't wait to get on me for thinking that the Redskins should change their name. It'll be a hoot.
Oh geez, sounds fun. My wife and I are doomed to be asked if we changed our minds about having kids every family holiday. I'm tempted one year just to give them what they want right on the dinner table.
"make love" to the turkey?

 

17seconds

root of all aliai
Every year we get the crazy aunt at our house who has 3 grown children with families who don't want to eat dinner with her.

This year it's a little better because she's planning to come over, vs. the 3pm call to my MIL crying and asking for a place to eat.

 

DA RAIDERS

willy t flyers
What if one of your guests is one of the millions of people who have had there plans cancelled after they were told they could keep them by Obama numerous times? I don't see a talking point for that.
Oh you mean people who had "insurance"? You know like the lady Fox had on that was moaning about losing her 50 a month "insurance" which didn't cover anything? Nothing. She paid 50 dollars a month for no hospitalization, no prescription help, nothing. She would essentially get 50 dollars back from them should anything happen. Yeah I weep for her and the millions like her.
Aetna is canceling all private insurance in CA. My wife's ppo perfectly good insurance is no more as of 1/1/14
This isn't necessarily directed at you, I don't know where you are on health insurance... But I don't understand the anti-Obamacare folks who abhor the idea of government health care and then complain when a private company cancels them. Are you expecting the government to step in now?

Either you want the government to control healthcare or you don't.
i was speaking directly to the posts I quoted. but thanks for your concern.

 

Ilov80s

Footballguy
Other suggested topics would be abortion, the eternal damnation of all non-believers, and if your one middle aged aunt is actually going to be single forever?
My FIL can't wait to get on me for thinking that the Redskins should change their name. It'll be a hoot.
Oh geez, sounds fun. My wife and I are doomed to be asked if we changed our minds about having kids every family holiday. I'm tempted one year just to give them what they want right on the dinner table.
"make love" to the turkey?
Who you callin a turkey? I was talking about stuffing my wife.

 

SaintsInDome2006

Footballguy
Ohhh I'm sure Obamacare's going to be discussed at a lot of turkey tables this year.

The head turkey in chief will especially be discussed.

 
What if one of your guests is one of the millions of people who have had there plans cancelled after they were told they could keep them by Obama numerous times? I don't see a talking point for that.
Oh you mean people who had "insurance"? You know like the lady Fox had on that was moaning about losing her 50 a month "insurance" which didn't cover anything? Nothing. She paid 50 dollars a month for no hospitalization, no prescription help, nothing. She would essentially get 50 dollars back from them should anything happen. Yeah I weep for her and the millions like her.
Aetna is canceling all private insurance in CA. My wife's ppo perfectly good insurance is no more as of 1/1/14
This isn't necessarily directed at you, I don't know where you are on health insurance... But I don't understand the anti-Obamacare folks who abhor the idea of government health care and then complain when a private company cancels them. Are you expecting the government to step in now?

Either you want the government to control healthcare or you don't.
As for discussing Health Insurance during Thanksgiving, we usually pass on political type conversation. But I do usually check in on family members (especially elders) to see if they're doing OK medically.

The website is somewhat disturbing. I know they're trying to help, but they should leave it to insurance agents and other private parties. It seems forced when it comes from the government, some people don't take kindly to that approach.

As for Aetna, they seized upon the opportunity for certain. Private insurers under Part D pull things like this all the time. Much bigger microscope when dealing with every Americans health insurance.

 

tri-man 47

Footballguy
He's not wrong. It's not about "pushing Obamacare" it's about helping the uninsured get covered. It says that, literally, right on the website:

If you have family members who are uninsured, you can play a big part in helping them find coverage that works for them.
But it's not like we couldn't have done this in years past. Of course, now we can gather the family around the computer and walk them through their coverage options on Healthcar ...oh, wait, it's not working yet.

 

Widbil83

Footballguy
Warrior said:
NCCommish said:
Widbil83 said:
What if one of your guests is one of the millions of people who have had there plans cancelled after they were told they could keep them by Obama numerous times? I don't see a talking point for that.
Oh you mean people who had "insurance"? You know like the lady Fox had on that was moaning about losing her 50 a month "insurance" which didn't cover anything? Nothing. She paid 50 dollars a month for no hospitalization, no prescription help, nothing. She would essentially get 50 dollars back from them should anything happen. Yeah I weep for her and the millions like her.
No, the other 999,999 that you didn't cherry pick.
:lol: Hopefully he tries to insert that drivel into an adult conversation this Thanksgiving.
 

matuski

Footballguy
Warrior said:
NCCommish said:
Widbil83 said:
What if one of your guests is one of the millions of people who have had there plans cancelled after they were told they could keep them by Obama numerous times? I don't see a talking point for that.
Oh you mean people who had "insurance"? You know like the lady Fox had on that was moaning about losing her 50 a month "insurance" which didn't cover anything? Nothing. She paid 50 dollars a month for no hospitalization, no prescription help, nothing. She would essentially get 50 dollars back from them should anything happen. Yeah I weep for her and the millions like her.
No, the other 999,999 that you didn't cherry pick.
:lol: Hopefully he tries to insert that drivel into an adult conversation this Thanksgiving.
Fox brought the one person in a million to their show?

 

Clown Car

Footballguy
Varmint said:
Everyone in our family at thanksgiving is currently insured. What else can you suggest?
Save it for next year when all of your previously insured guests have lost their insurance when the employer mandate kicks in!
I have been wondering how long it will last. My husbands company covers our full family coverage completely. It costs the same if we had one kid or ten, so we are just trying to get their money's worth for it.

 

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Insoxicated
Start by asking: “Have you thought about signing up for health insurance on the new marketplace?”

:lol:

Jesus, this is worse than those crappy colonial penn commercials.

 

fantasycurse42

Footballguy Jr.
I'd rather eat a vegetarian "tofu turkey" then discuss politics on Thanksgiving with family.

Honestly, this country would be a better place if we took all of the families that are arguing politics on Thanksgiving and moved them to Montana.

 

Tom Servo

Nittany Beavers
Thanksgiving is supposed to be about family...at least that's what I thought it was for.

Regardless, its still a horrible idea. Whomever thought it up - and we all know it wasn't Obama :rolleyes: - needs flogged for attempting to politicize a holiday.

 
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