The problem is that at this point it's a highly politicized topic. At my house I don't want politics discussed at Thanksgiving and I don't care which side of the isle you are on.He's not wrong. It's not about "pushing Obamacare" it's about helping the uninsured get covered. It says that, literally, right on the website:
If you have family members who are uninsured, you can play a big part in helping them find coverage that works for them.
Nothing wrong with that. Anyone who says differently is merely a partisan hack.
What if one of your guests is one of the millions of people who have had there plans cancelled after they were told they could keep them by Obama numerous times? I don't see a talking point for that.
Oh you mean people who had "insurance"? You know like the lady Fox had on that was moaning about losing her 50 a month "insurance" which didn't cover anything? Nothing. She paid 50 dollars a month for no hospitalization, no prescription help, nothing. She would essentially get 50 dollars back from them should anything happen. Yeah I weep for her and the millions like her.What if one of your guests is one of the millions of people who have had there plans cancelled after they were told they could keep them by Obama numerous times? I don't see a talking point for that.
Millions? Granted I refuse to watch any of the "news" stations, but I work in hospitals all day everyday and haven't seen this once. Plenty of things the surgeons whine about regarding ACA... this hasn't come up at all?What if one of your guests is one of the millions of people who have had there plans cancelled after they were told they could keep them by Obama numerous times? I don't see a talking point for that.
So if you know that someone in your family is uninsured, you wouldn't try to help them for fear of... what? Making them angry that there's a solution to their problem? If you heard about a good deal from a private insurer, would you bring that up?The problem is that at this point it's a highly politicized topic. At my house I don't want politics discussed at Thanksgiving and I don't care which side of the isle you are on.He's not wrong. It's not about "pushing Obamacare" it's about helping the uninsured get covered. It says that, literally, right on the website:
If you have family members who are uninsured, you can play a big part in helping them find coverage that works for them.
Nothing wrong with that. Anyone who says differently is merely a partisan hack.
The problem is that too many people are both emotional and irrational when discussing politics, and the likelihood that everybody in the room can do it in a measured manner and not bother those who don't want to hear it is very slim. No politics in bars or family gatherings.So if you know that someone in your family is uninsured, you wouldn't try to help them for fear of... what? Making them angry that there's a solution to their problem? If you heard about a good deal from a private insurer, would you bring that up?The problem is that at this point it's a highly politicized topic. At my house I don't want politics discussed at Thanksgiving and I don't care which side of the isle you are on.He's not wrong. It's not about "pushing Obamacare" it's about helping the uninsured get covered. It says that, literally, right on the website:
If you have family members who are uninsured, you can play a big part in helping them find coverage that works for them.
Nothing wrong with that. Anyone who says differently is merely a partisan hack.
I don't get the mentality that says "I recognize that you have a problem, but I don't want to be uncomfortable so I'm not going to allow discussion about its solution."
I get that, I do. And we don't do politics at my house, either. But what I'm saying is that this isn't political. Doesn't have to turn into a political debate because the debate is over - it's the law, the programs are out there, and people need to be insured.The problem is that too many people are both emotional and irrational when discussing politics, and the likelihood that everybody in the room can do it in a measured manner and not bother those who don't want to hear it is very slim. No politics in bars or family gatherings.
benefits of birth controlEveryone in our family at thanksgiving is currently insured. What else can you suggest?
The Falcon Punch is pretty effective.Schlzmbenefits of birth controlEveryone in our family at thanksgiving is currently insured. What else can you suggest?
I didn't know that when things became law, there was no further debate on the subject. You know, things like abortion, gun control, the death penalty....I get that, I do. And we don't do politics at my house, either. But what I'm saying is that this isn't political. Doesn't have to turn into a political debate because the debate is over - it's the law, the programs are out there, and people need to be insured.The problem is that too many people are both emotional and irrational when discussing politics, and the likelihood that everybody in the room can do it in a measured manner and not bother those who don't want to hear it is very slim. No politics in bars or family gatherings.
Not at Thankgiving - happy to discuss it with them 1-on-1 outside that but it's neither the time nor the place. People come to family functions to see family, eat good food and relax, not discuss a hot-button topic that has turned political for a lot of people.So if you know that someone in your family is uninsured, you wouldn't try to help them for fear of... what? Making them angry that there's a solution to their problem? If you heard about a good deal from a private insurer, would you bring that up?The problem is that at this point it's a highly politicized topic. At my house I don't want politics discussed at Thanksgiving and I don't care which side of the isle you are on.He's not wrong. It's not about "pushing Obamacare" it's about helping the uninsured get covered. It says that, literally, right on the website:
If you have family members who are uninsured, you can play a big part in helping them find coverage that works for them.
Nothing wrong with that. Anyone who says differently is merely a partisan hack.
I don't get the mentality that says "I recognize that you have a problem, but I don't want to be uncomfortable so I'm not going to allow discussion about its solution."
No, the other 999,999 that you didn't cherry pick.Oh you mean people who had "insurance"? You know like the lady Fox had on that was moaning about losing her 50 a month "insurance" which didn't cover anything? Nothing. She paid 50 dollars a month for no hospitalization, no prescription help, nothing. She would essentially get 50 dollars back from them should anything happen. Yeah I weep for her and the millions like her.What if one of your guests is one of the millions of people who have had there plans cancelled after they were told they could keep them by Obama numerous times? I don't see a talking point for that.
Thanksgiving must have been a real hoot for familys during Vietnam.I miss the good old days when things were light we were talking about sending kids to die in a war based on bs intelligence and paranoia, rather than getting people who don't have health insurance covered. It's all so heavy and terrifying now.
Fox brought the one person in a million to their show?No, the other 999,999 that you didn't cherry pick.Oh you mean people who had "insurance"? You know like the lady Fox had on that was moaning about losing her 50 a month "insurance" which didn't cover anything? Nothing. She paid 50 dollars a month for no hospitalization, no prescription help, nothing. She would essentially get 50 dollars back from them should anything happen. Yeah I weep for her and the millions like her.What if one of your guests is one of the millions of people who have had there plans cancelled after they were told they could keep them by Obama numerous times? I don't see a talking point for that.
Aetna is canceling all private insurance in CA. My wife's ppo perfectly good insurance is no more as of 1/1/14Oh you mean people who had "insurance"? You know like the lady Fox had on that was moaning about losing her 50 a month "insurance" which didn't cover anything? Nothing. She paid 50 dollars a month for no hospitalization, no prescription help, nothing. She would essentially get 50 dollars back from them should anything happen. Yeah I weep for her and the millions like her.What if one of your guests is one of the millions of people who have had there plans cancelled after they were told they could keep them by Obama numerous times? I don't see a talking point for that.
My FIL can't wait to get on me for thinking that the Redskins should change their name. It'll be a hoot.Other suggested topics would be abortion, the eternal damnation of all non-believers, and if your one middle aged aunt is actually going to be single forever?
This isn't necessarily directed at you, I don't know where you are on health insurance... But I don't understand the anti-Obamacare folks who abhor the idea of government health care and then complain when a private company cancels them. Are you expecting the government to step in now?Aetna is canceling all private insurance in CA. My wife's ppo perfectly good insurance is no more as of 1/1/14Oh you mean people who had "insurance"? You know like the lady Fox had on that was moaning about losing her 50 a month "insurance" which didn't cover anything? Nothing. She paid 50 dollars a month for no hospitalization, no prescription help, nothing. She would essentially get 50 dollars back from them should anything happen. Yeah I weep for her and the millions like her.What if one of your guests is one of the millions of people who have had there plans cancelled after they were told they could keep them by Obama numerous times? I don't see a talking point for that.
Oh geez, sounds fun. My wife and I are doomed to be asked if we changed our minds about having kids every family holiday. I'm tempted one year just to give them what they want right on the dinner table.My FIL can't wait to get on me for thinking that the Redskins should change their name. It'll be a hoot.Other suggested topics would be abortion, the eternal damnation of all non-believers, and if your one middle aged aunt is actually going to be single forever?
"make love" to the turkey?Oh geez, sounds fun. My wife and I are doomed to be asked if we changed our minds about having kids every family holiday. I'm tempted one year just to give them what they want right on the dinner table.My FIL can't wait to get on me for thinking that the Redskins should change their name. It'll be a hoot.Other suggested topics would be abortion, the eternal damnation of all non-believers, and if your one middle aged aunt is actually going to be single forever?
i was speaking directly to the posts I quoted. but thanks for your concern.This isn't necessarily directed at you, I don't know where you are on health insurance... But I don't understand the anti-Obamacare folks who abhor the idea of government health care and then complain when a private company cancels them. Are you expecting the government to step in now?Aetna is canceling all private insurance in CA. My wife's ppo perfectly good insurance is no more as of 1/1/14Oh you mean people who had "insurance"? You know like the lady Fox had on that was moaning about losing her 50 a month "insurance" which didn't cover anything? Nothing. She paid 50 dollars a month for no hospitalization, no prescription help, nothing. She would essentially get 50 dollars back from them should anything happen. Yeah I weep for her and the millions like her.What if one of your guests is one of the millions of people who have had there plans cancelled after they were told they could keep them by Obama numerous times? I don't see a talking point for that.
Either you want the government to control healthcare or you don't.
Who you callin a turkey? I was talking about stuffing my wife."make love" to the turkey?Oh geez, sounds fun. My wife and I are doomed to be asked if we changed our minds about having kids every family holiday. I'm tempted one year just to give them what they want right on the dinner table.My FIL can't wait to get on me for thinking that the Redskins should change their name. It'll be a hoot.Other suggested topics would be abortion, the eternal damnation of all non-believers, and if your one middle aged aunt is actually going to be single forever?
As for discussing Health Insurance during Thanksgiving, we usually pass on political type conversation. But I do usually check in on family members (especially elders) to see if they're doing OK medically.This isn't necessarily directed at you, I don't know where you are on health insurance... But I don't understand the anti-Obamacare folks who abhor the idea of government health care and then complain when a private company cancels them. Are you expecting the government to step in now?Aetna is canceling all private insurance in CA. My wife's ppo perfectly good insurance is no more as of 1/1/14Oh you mean people who had "insurance"? You know like the lady Fox had on that was moaning about losing her 50 a month "insurance" which didn't cover anything? Nothing. She paid 50 dollars a month for no hospitalization, no prescription help, nothing. She would essentially get 50 dollars back from them should anything happen. Yeah I weep for her and the millions like her.What if one of your guests is one of the millions of people who have had there plans cancelled after they were told they could keep them by Obama numerous times? I don't see a talking point for that.
Either you want the government to control healthcare or you don't.
But it's not like we couldn't have done this in years past. Of course, now we can gather the family around the computer and walk them through their coverage options on Healthcar ...oh, wait, it's not working yet.He's not wrong. It's not about "pushing Obamacare" it's about helping the uninsured get covered. It says that, literally, right on the website:
If you have family members who are uninsured, you can play a big part in helping them find coverage that works for them.
Save it for next year when all of your previously insured guests have lost their insurance when the employer mandate kicks in!Everyone in our family at thanksgiving is currently insured. What else can you suggest?
Hopefully he tries to insert that drivel into an adult conversation this Thanksgiving.Warrior said:No, the other 999,999 that you didn't cherry pick.NCCommish said:Oh you mean people who had "insurance"? You know like the lady Fox had on that was moaning about losing her 50 a month "insurance" which didn't cover anything? Nothing. She paid 50 dollars a month for no hospitalization, no prescription help, nothing. She would essentially get 50 dollars back from them should anything happen. Yeah I weep for her and the millions like her.Widbil83 said:What if one of your guests is one of the millions of people who have had there plans cancelled after they were told they could keep them by Obama numerous times? I don't see a talking point for that.
Fox brought the one person in a million to their show?Hopefully he tries to insert that drivel into an adult conversation this Thanksgiving.Warrior said:No, the other 999,999 that you didn't cherry pick.NCCommish said:Oh you mean people who had "insurance"? You know like the lady Fox had on that was moaning about losing her 50 a month "insurance" which didn't cover anything? Nothing. She paid 50 dollars a month for no hospitalization, no prescription help, nothing. She would essentially get 50 dollars back from them should anything happen. Yeah I weep for her and the millions like her.Widbil83 said:What if one of your guests is one of the millions of people who have had there plans cancelled after they were told they could keep them by Obama numerous times? I don't see a talking point for that.
Like low libido, cancer, blood clots, more cancers, and mood swings? I'll just have a baby, thanks.Fennis said:benefits of birth controlEveryone in our family at thanksgiving is currently insured. What else can you suggest?
I have been wondering how long it will last. My husbands company covers our full family coverage completely. It costs the same if we had one kid or ten, so we are just trying to get their money's worth for it.Varmint said:Save it for next year when all of your previously insured guests have lost their insurance when the employer mandate kicks in!Everyone in our family at thanksgiving is currently insured. What else can you suggest?
Wow, that is a creepy site.Obama says push Obamacare on your guests.
That's pretty well known. She also has lots of kids. Some people like Fennis can't seem to handle it.Clown car = female. Pickles, note this.
That the turkey isn't done yet.Brony said:WHAT DOES THE FOX SAY?
Other suggested topics would be abortion, the eternal damnation of all non-believers, and if your one middle aged aunt is actually going to be single forever?