Reservoir Dog
Footballguy
Mike Singletary.
Great guy......HOF player.......terrible NFL HC.
Great guy......HOF player.......terrible NFL HC.
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Worst HC in the NFL? (1 Viewer)
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Chan Gailey makes me miss **** Jauron
cubbie5150
Footballguy
I voted John Fox b/c his use of RBs this season makes no sense. Even though they have 3 wins, I think Del Rio belongs on the list at least as an option.......
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
This would have been unanimous had Singletary pulled Smith and put in David Carr last night.
Area51Inhabitant
Footballguy
To be fair, Phillips is only half a coach at best. He can't control what happens on the offensive side of the ball and imo Garrett should be getting the lions share of the heat for the Boys' continuous lack of balance.
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sandlotshrink
Footballguy
I vote for Phillips and Turner simply based on what they have to work with compared to the other guys. No doubt the others are poor, but each one of them has a player/lack of personnel you can point to that helps explain things. Phillips has Jerry lurking in the background, but Jimmy Johnson won with that same level of input and I don't count Switzer's b/c that was Jimmy's team.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Singletary and Fox are both dead men walking, but the difference being that Fox has done enough in his career as both a coordinator and head coach that he'll have plenty of suitors in 2011. I really can't see Singletary getting anything outside of a position coach job next year. He's outmatched and I'm not sure we ever saw enough from him to even say he's a great defensive coaching mind.
I like Turner. The offense and the defense are operating on all cylinders. I wonder what Rivers' views on him are.
Redzone turnovers and the special teams have lost two games for them. Fire the ST coach today, keep Turner.
This team will win the AFC West and will win one playoff game.
Redzone turnovers and the special teams have lost two games for them. Fire the ST coach today, keep Turner.
This team will win the AFC West and will win one playoff game.
Bankerguy
Footballguy
THIS
The Hardline
Footballguy
I think that Wade would have a hard time finding a job in D1 college football right now and yet he is in charge of what is supposed to be one of the best football teams in the NFL and standing at 1-3. A lot of the mistakes that are being made (penatlies) have a lot to do with coaching. To bad they can't replace him midseason. Who would they elevate? Garrett? Ha.
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
Norv and Wade neck and neck. Both failing miserably with more talent than the other coaches on this list have. John Fox and Chan Gailey have I-AA teams out there.
Northbound Train
Footballguy
I'd say Norv has had more and not done a whole lote more....another 2-3 start and the guy still has a job
mcjc4
Footballguy
It all depends on where Bill Cowher wants to coach next year. Living Carolina, if he wants to stay home, Fox is finished if the Panthers owner will pony major $$$$$.
Wade is next if Cowher wants the Cowboys. Pretty sure the owner of the Boys will pony up major $$$ for Cowher. He will be paid the highest salary of any coach if he wants back in. Tough to say with the situation on the home front.
Holmgren will definitly cut ties with Mangini, just not sure who will want that job. Honestly, who wants that job?
You may want to add Gary Kubiac to the list, I would assume the ownership in Houston expects to win now. If they collapse and Indy pulls ahead of them, he is as good as gone in my book.
Childress has to go as well. I am a vikes fan and this guy is killing me, not sure why I have such dislike for him, he is just so uninspiring.
Wade is next if Cowher wants the Cowboys. Pretty sure the owner of the Boys will pony up major $$$ for Cowher. He will be paid the highest salary of any coach if he wants back in. Tough to say with the situation on the home front.
Holmgren will definitly cut ties with Mangini, just not sure who will want that job. Honestly, who wants that job?
You may want to add Gary Kubiac to the list, I would assume the ownership in Houston expects to win now. If they collapse and Indy pulls ahead of them, he is as good as gone in my book.
Childress has to go as well. I am a vikes fan and this guy is killing me, not sure why I have such dislike for him, he is just so uninspiring.
BoerumHill
Footballguy
N/ADeceptive thread title.
Actually what is being polled is Who Is Going To (Or Should) Get Canned First This Year?
texasbirdfan
Footballguy
Jack Del Rio by far and not on poll
destro
Footballguy
Someone needs to explain to me how the Panthers couldn't stop the run with the Bears starting Todd Collins (read: guy afraid to be on the field) at QB. It looked like they had 2 deep on every play until the 2nd half, despite the fact that the average FBG poster is more of a threat under center than Collins. Astounding.
And the fact that Collins is starting, period, means that Lovie Smith needs to be at least considered in this thread, not to mention the horrific challenges, clock management, and personnel decisions over the years.
Philips, Singletary, and Childress are all good options, too.
As an aside: Why is it that so many coaches make mistakes that seem painfully obvious and brutally easy to avoid? These guys famously work 80 hours a week and so forth, and yet they fail at some of the most fundamental and simple areas of coaching a team. What gives? Too much on their minds? Too many irons in the fire? Not organized enough to think clearly? Or are some of these guys just really not that bright? I'm sure that having outrageously inflated egos certainly plays a role in many poor coaching decisions, but that cannot explain all of the mistakes we see...
And the fact that Collins is starting, period, means that Lovie Smith needs to be at least considered in this thread, not to mention the horrific challenges, clock management, and personnel decisions over the years.
Philips, Singletary, and Childress are all good options, too.
As an aside: Why is it that so many coaches make mistakes that seem painfully obvious and brutally easy to avoid? These guys famously work 80 hours a week and so forth, and yet they fail at some of the most fundamental and simple areas of coaching a team. What gives? Too much on their minds? Too many irons in the fire? Not organized enough to think clearly? Or are some of these guys just really not that bright? I'm sure that having outrageously inflated egos certainly plays a role in many poor coaching decisions, but that cannot explain all of the mistakes we see...
texasbirdfan
Footballguy
Jerry and his son would have to give up the GM control, so Cowher would be a long shot. Garrrett would be the logical choice here in Dallas
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Liquid Tension
Footballguy
If you are the HC you do have control by being in the meetings, or dictating you want more runs or something. delegating is a good managerial ability, however, you must take responsibility for who you delegate it to and blaming Garrett is BS. One other point, Wade deserves the shots because when he took the Dallas HC job he said, "I have already proven I am a great defensive coordinator and now I want to prove I am a great HC." What an arrogant ahole. I didn;t even know he had proven himself to be a great defensive coordinator, but to proclaim it as fact...get a grip man. Good is not not great.
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
What?
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
If this were posted at the start of the year I would've surely picked the Mangenius but an honest look at the Browns level of play so far (not just my Bengals blowing that game to them) makes me realize that it wouldn't right to give him that vote now.
I went Singletary. With that schedule they really should've done more and I just get the sense that the chaos comes from the top. Phillips is a reasonable 2nd choice. Can't put Marvin in there - it's not him failing to execute.
-QG
I went Singletary. With that schedule they really should've done more and I just get the sense that the chaos comes from the top. Phillips is a reasonable 2nd choice. Can't put Marvin in there - it's not him failing to execute.
-QG
Norv Turner does not belong on the list. He has a large body of work. While not overwhelming, he has had some success. Turner as a mediocre coach and be pretty easily defended. Worst coach cannot.
McDaniel also does not belong on the list. Although he has driven a lot of talent out of Denver, he has developed a top rated offense with Kyle Orton and Brandon Lloyd as the centerpieces.
McDaniel also does not belong on the list. Although he has driven a lot of talent out of Denver, he has developed a top rated offense with Kyle Orton and Brandon Lloyd as the centerpieces.
Flash
Footballguy
Cohwer in Green Bay next year would look really nice.
Great players rarely make great coaches. Singletary explained why. He talked about how the other coaches have to remind him "He's not you Mike".
Great players don't understand why you lack motivation. Why you don't want to be the best. Why you don't put in the work to be the best. Why you settle being mediocre.
Players are great because they have the will, determination, work ethic, the drive, the passion. So they don't understand why everyone doesn't feel like that. He coaches guys with all the physical tools but mentally they are weak. He can't understand that. It's so against how he played the game.
I love Singletary. I wish he would have been a huge success. If he was playing he'd be able to lead and inspire that defense. As a coach he just sounds like an old man yelling.
Back to the OP, the worst HC is Chan Gailey. He should have never have been hired. He's been a total failure. He's not qualified. It's been proven he's not qualified. I wouldn't put him in charge of making my lunch.
Great players don't understand why you lack motivation. Why you don't want to be the best. Why you don't put in the work to be the best. Why you settle being mediocre.
Players are great because they have the will, determination, work ethic, the drive, the passion. So they don't understand why everyone doesn't feel like that. He coaches guys with all the physical tools but mentally they are weak. He can't understand that. It's so against how he played the game.
I love Singletary. I wish he would have been a huge success. If he was playing he'd be able to lead and inspire that defense. As a coach he just sounds like an old man yelling.
Back to the OP, the worst HC is Chan Gailey. He should have never have been hired. He's been a total failure. He's not qualified. It's been proven he's not qualified. I wouldn't put him in charge of making my lunch.
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destro
Footballguy
No good NFL coach would ever let someone that bad be the #2 and subsequently start games. Did you see any of his play this year? The only reason I've seen a QB play worse than Collins the last two weeks is because I live in Chicago and have been exposed to some terrible, terrible things over the years. Caleb Hanie is far better, and should never have been behind Collins on the depth chart. Daunte Culpepper, Jeff Garcia, and other UFL stars are far better, as well. The fact that you would let him start an entire game for your NFL team proves that you are a pretty bad coach. I mean, no exaggeration, he looked like he was terrified to be on the field. I seriously doubt he looks that much better in practice. His play in Week 4 alone is enough for anyone to see that he has no business being in the NFL. Week 5 was more of the same.KnowledgeReignsSupreme said:
Reservoir Dog
Footballguy
Great post.I actually feel bad for Singletary.....but I'm sure he'll catch on somewhere as a D coordinater.Brad Childress isn't a bad coach, people! Jack Del Rio is average at best, but I'd still take him over any of the choices listed.Gary Kubiak is mediocre, but he could be running out of time as well.Lovie Smith barely missed the cut.
Choke
Footballguy
There is only one name on that list that could come in and ruin the stability the Steelers have nurtured and grown. Marvin Lewis.
All the rest, at the least, would conform and possibly be carried. Some may even prosper. Maybe a couple would just be let go eventually and then Pittsburgh would move on.
All the rest, at the least, would conform and possibly be carried. Some may even prosper. Maybe a couple would just be let go eventually and then Pittsburgh would move on.
Lash
Footballguy
why is Childress not an option?
he has a downfield QB (not a dink and dunker), a power back (not a pass catcher), deep threats in SRice, Berrian, and Harvin (not possession types), swap in RMoss for SRice, and a decent enough power run blocking OL
AND HE RUNS WEST COAST OFFENSE?!?
why are football coaches the ONLY coaches who don't conform their system to the talent of their players?!?
they are like "By God we gon' run this offense no matter what!!!"
same with defense, they will MAKE their 4-3 players play in a 3-4 or vice versa
is it that hard to conform to your players talents?
he has a downfield QB (not a dink and dunker), a power back (not a pass catcher), deep threats in SRice, Berrian, and Harvin (not possession types), swap in RMoss for SRice, and a decent enough power run blocking OL
AND HE RUNS WEST COAST OFFENSE?!?
why are football coaches the ONLY coaches who don't conform their system to the talent of their players?!?
they are like "By God we gon' run this offense no matter what!!!"
same with defense, they will MAKE their 4-3 players play in a 3-4 or vice versa
is it that hard to conform to your players talents?
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
We ready to give Norv some more votes yet?
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Mike Singletary is the right answer, but I voted Chan Gailey for sentimental reasons.
PaperBagHead
Footballguy
This.
Ever Present Lurker
Footballguy
To me, Gailey isn't the worst. Oh he's definitely terrible. But at least guys like Phillips and Singletary have some horses on their team. The cupboard is freakin bare in Buffalo.Now if we were voting on which organization just sucks the most top to bottom. Shout!
PaperBagHead
Footballguy
I'm almost proud of this. It isn't easy supplanting The Detroit Lions, The Cincinnati Bengals, and The Cleveland Browns. It takes dedication, years of buffoonery, and a fair amount of mental illness.
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