worst team in nfl (1 Viewer)

[gregjcross]

saints packers and jets are borderline but have Brees/Pennington/Favre

The Saints should receive consideration

 

[FairWarning]

I vote for Green Bay. I hear that Favre will throw some to his own team this year. Too bad Javon Walker is gone.

 

[fsufan]

If Peterson(OAK RB) comes out after this year where do you think he would go?

Would the 49ers draft him? The Jet?

 

[Marc Levin]

Does anyone here expect the Jets to be worse than the Bills though?

I wouldn't be surprised either way.

me neither. i think both teams are in drastic need of improvement if they want to compete with the rising 'phins and the Pats.

 

[Marc Levin]

marc; I wrote what i think above; i probably shoulda included them as a choice but they have a lot of young talent and stable players in my opinion unlike the other five teams listed. I dont see them being that bad.

I respect the opinion, just looking for some reasoning, besides your personal preference, for why you don't see them as being as bad as the other teams you chose to list.I, personally, see the Jets as a team in more need of improvement than some of the others you chose to list.

 

[Rev]

Jets

 

[BoltBacker]

If you compared each team unit by unit, how many units that comprise a football team would you say the Jets are better than the Bills?

QBsAdvantage Jets

RBs

Even Split

WRs

Even Split

TEs

Advantage Jets

OL

Advantage Jets

DL

Even Split

LBs

Advantage Bills

DBs

Advantage Bills

ST

Even Split

CS

Advantage Jets

FO

Advantage Jets

Jets - 5

Bills - 2

Even - 4

Offense

Jets - 3

Bills - 0

Even - 2

Defense/ST

Jets - 0

Bills - 2

Even - 1

Personnel

Jets - 2

Bills - 0

Even - 0

Least that's how I'd rank them.

I agree with almost none of these.QB - Meh, they both suck. I don't know how you give either team an advantage.

RB - So a 33yo Martin = a 25 yo McGahee?????? I've always been a huge Martin backer but just think you are dead wrong here.

WR - I'd actually give the nod to NY at WR.

TE - Both units are average with some upside but not enough to get excited about in either case.

OL - See QB, although I'd almost take BUF here just because they will at least be starting some NFL vets instead of relying so heavily on rookies. No definitive advantage either way imo.

DL - Neither should be bad this year but BUF improves with Tripplett while NYJ loses Abraham. I'd give a slight edge to BUF here.

LB - Agreed, BUF and it's not close.

DB - "

ST - Agreed, split.

CS - Again, you seem to give the NYJ an advantage here and I simply don't see it.

FO - "

So in summary I'd say BUF is at least a full notch better than the Jets at RB, DL, LB and DB. The only position I see a clear advantage for the NYJ is at WR and imo even that advantage is somewhat muted by the fact the QB/OL is so poor they may not be able to take advantage of the talent they possess at WR.

 

[chris1969]

I voted 49ers, but Jets should have been on that list too!

 

[GoBills02]

Yeah, the Bills Special Teams suck....(sarcasm off) but I guess we only count offense and defense.

 

[BGP]

The NFL is a coaches' league. There isn't one franchise in the NFL that a great coach cannot push to a decent record. A case in point is the 2005 Browns. A new front office came in and gutted the team in a salary purge. They shed a lot of talent and started scrubs. Yet the coaches pushed that club to 6 wins, and if they had a decent punter they would have won 7 or 8.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

I vote for Green Bay.

 

[Moonlight]

Jets are serious contenders.

The Pack is bottoming out and deserve dishonorable mention.

 

[AB in DC]

DL - Neither should be bad this year but BUF improves with Tripplett while NYJ loses Abraham. I'd give a slight edge to BUF here.

Buffalo lost three D linemen to free agency, including Sam Adams. Is Triplett really an upgrade over the big man? Meanwhile, the Jets lost Abraham but gained Kimo von Oelhoffen, who's a solid run stuffer.

 

[Power Monster]

Green Bay is looking like the lamb...

 

[ookook]

I think the most glaring omission would be the Vikings. I cannot see what they have going for them besides schedule.

I think the Packers have a 35% to 40% of making the playoffs in that division, but the Vikings will be dead last.

 

[CalBear]

I think the most glaring omission would be the Vikings. I cannot see what they have going for them besides schedule.

How about the fact that they were 9-7 last year? I don't like the Vikings much, either, but they don't belong on a list of the worst teams in the league.

 

[gregjcross]

Mark,

To respond in detail, these are my perceived strenghts for the JETS

Over the last three to four drafts, the Jets have come out with many assets despite losing Mawai and J.Abraham to free agency. Jet players are not flashy but this team has drafted solidly. THeir downfall has been Pennington's health

THe Strong units with key players noted:

Grade A-) Off Line: OT D'brick Ferguson, RG Pete Kendall, C Nick Mangold

Grade B) RB: C.Mart/ C. Houston/FB Askew/third down Blaylock/Leon Washington

This group with a veteran/youth mix really works for me

Grade B-) LB: Vilma, Barton, Hobson, Chatham: Vilma is a stud standout who lifs the whole defense. Barton/Hobson can pull their weight. Lets see if they have any depth

Grade B-) D-Line: Kimon Von Oelhofen, Shuan Ellis, Dewayne Robertson, Bryan Thomas--all solid players; again depth couldd be a concern

Grade C) Secondary: Justin Miller, Andre Dyson, Erik Coleman all up'n'coming talents but have no proven leader/stud

Grade C-) QB: Pennington, Ramsey (success linked to Penny's health and now they have at least some depth with a sleeper K.Clemmens)

Grade C-) WR: Coles is the only standout, but Justin Mcariens and Jericho Cotchery have the speed

Grade F) TE: Jolley/Baker; what a joke

marc; I wrote what i think above;  i probably shoulda included them as a choice but they have a lot of young talent and stable players in my opinion unlike the other five teams listed.  I dont see them being that bad.

I respect the opinion, just looking for some reasoning, besides your personal preference, for why you don't see them as being as bad as the other teams you chose to list.I, personally, see the Jets as a team in more need of improvement than some of the others you chose to list.

 

[Pots]

Thanks for not including the Jets...

Which makes this poll flawed.

 

[Billy Ball Thorton]

The Cardinals hands down.

Wrong awnser.. Now that your out of town they will be great.

 

[Reaper]

Last year was pretty much a disaster for the Jets, the OL was obliterated and people were playing QB off the street.

I can't see it being any worse.

I'm not going to go crazy and and predict playoffs or even a top 25 team but, I don't think there's a way in hell they can be the worst team in the NFL without a similar rash of injuries that can bury any team.

Herm is gone, the BULL #### stops. No more Club Ed... No more rants about sweeping the corners or chasing chickens - Now it's FOOTBALL.

I'll predict 6-10 Not that good but, certianly not the worst in the NFL....

Also - Personally I don't care what the record is as much as I care about developing an OL, deciding on a future QB and installing systems and an attitude.. I agree with Nick Saban that W/L in year 1 aren't the most important thing...

As a fan, I'd be happy with 1 win this year as long as I saw the beginings of a real good OL developing and a QB taking control with the Mangini defense developing and becoming more unpredictable......

W/L record doesn't always tell you what team is in the worst shape...

Heck, for the long term I'd rather be done with the Herm Edwards era than just starting out.

Guy is a Major league BOZO. Sorry KC fans.

 

[GregR_2]

I like Houston to crack 7-8 wins this year, and TEN/DET just don't seem as bad to me, although TEN wouldn't surprise me if they fell apart late. I fully expect Fisher to be coaching a new team next year (Colts), and the Young/Leinart problem likely costs him his job.

I hope you are right, but I think the weakness of the secondary is going to be a major issue. I'm thinking 6 wins would be a decent season at this point. That's assuming the O-line gets raised to at least respectable.

 

[JohnnyTitan]

i probably shoulda included them as a choice but they have a lot of young talent and stable players in my opinion unlike the other five teams listed.

What? Are you saying the Titans don't have any young talent or stable players?This debate will be decided on Sept 10th, when the Titans start the season off 1-0 at the expense of the lowly Jets.J-E-T-S, lose-lose-LOSE!!

 

[Reaper]

i probably shoulda included them as a choice but they have a lot of young talent and stable players in my opinion unlike the other five teams listed.

What? Are you saying the Titans don't have any young talent or stable players?This debate will be decided on Sept 10th, when the Titans start the season off 1-0 at the expense of the lowly Jets.

J-E-T-S, lose-lose-LOSE!!

I look at that matchup as two closely rated teams looking to develop.....But, for two young teams I'd MUCH rather play at Home, I don't think that matchup will tell the whole story but, should be a good one

Lot's of young players and stories to watch...

Really, for both teams, the 1st half of the season may even be a tryout / practice time for the 2nd half where the REAL Qb's takeover.... Good possibility Clemens gets the starts for the Jets later in the season.

 

[BoltBacker]

DL - Neither should be bad this year but BUF improves with Tripplett while NYJ loses Abraham. I'd give a slight edge to BUF here.

Buffalo lost three D linemen to free agency, including Sam Adams. Is Triplett really an upgrade over the big man? Meanwhile, the Jets lost Abraham but gained Kimo von Oelhoffen, who's a solid run stuffer.

Yes.Triplett > Adams

Abraham >>> von Oelhoffen

 

[BoltBacker]

Grade A-) Off Line: OT D'brick Ferguson, RG Pete Kendall, C Nick Mangold

If you are giving the jets OL an "A-" then where do you think it ranks among NFL OL's?

 

[Buckna]

If Peterson(OAK RB) comes out after this year where do you think he would go? Would the 49ers draft him? The Jet?

There will be a number of teams that could use him that will be at the top of the draft. All of these teams are bad and might be needing a new RB:49'ersJetsTexansPackersIt will really come down to how the other top prospects grade out and where these teams fall in the draft. Most of those teams and a lot of others like the Bills & Titans have lots of other needs elsewhere too. There's also a few other top RB candidates like M.Bush or Lynch.

 

[IndyHavoc]

I agree with almost none of these.QB - Meh, they both suck. I don't know how you give either team an advantage.RB - So a 33yo Martin = a 25 yo McGahee?????? I've always been a huge Martin backer but just think you are dead wrong here.......

was thinking the exact same thing as your corrections. Either way, voted SF. there's just little to no improvement on paper. If your skill level and experience is that much lower than each and every opponent all year long...wins are gonna be very few and far between. Possible 0-16?