Would Ronda Rousey kick your ###? (2 Viewers)

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Just watched the whole fight. She looked gassed before the end of the first round. At least Tyson had a longer and more dominant rise and reign and basically knocked out buster douglas in that fight anyway.

 

[the moops]

The FFA - where beating up a girl and/or tiny people in hypothetical fights is considered macho bragging, where the smaller and weaker the hypothetical opponent is.. the less chance you have.

keep on keeping on macho man

 

[Ditka Butkus]

Considering that Holly Holm was hitting Rousey with left-hand leads and even left-elbow leads, yeah... pretty sure she's not going to be able to stop anything from a real boxer.

Unless its with her face.

 

[flapgreen]

Just watched the whole fight. She looked gassed before the end of the first round. At least Tyson had a longer and more dominant rise and reign and basically knocked out buster douglas in that fight anyway.

People compared her to Tyson? Smh

 

[ILUVBEER99]

Considering that Holly Holm was hitting Rousey with left-hand leads and even left-elbow leads, yeah... pretty sure she's not going to be able to stop anything from a real boxer.

i think it was more of a horrible strategy she used due to ego. she wanted to show she could be a great striker and there is no way she can do that vs an elite (for a woman) boxer like holm.

Looks like her mom was right, her trainer is awful and was deluded into thinking he had trained Rousey to become a world class striker which is ridiculous.

This was a huge embarrassment for her and her whole camp. She needs to drop her deadbeat trainer and find a new camp.

 

[ghostguy123]

could does not = would. Just an FYI.

Rousey losing just made her so much more money. I am not saying she threw the fight, but she is in a MUCH better position financially now moving forward by FAR. Rematch is lotta $$, best of 3 after she wins is $$$$

 

[kutta]

could does not = would. Just an FYI.

Rousey losing just made her so much more money. I am not saying she threw the fight, but she is in a MUCH better position financially now moving forward by FAR. Rematch is lotta $$, best of 3 after she wins is $$$$

Not a chance. Rematch will be big. Sponsors will be much less.

 

[ghostguy123]

could does not = would. Just an FYI.

Rousey losing just made her so much more money. I am not saying she threw the fight, but she is in a MUCH better position financially now moving forward by FAR. Rematch is lotta $$, best of 3 after she wins is $$$$

Not a chance. Rematch will be big. Sponsors will be much less.

did she just lose her sponsors or something?

 

[kutta]

could does not = would. Just an FYI.

Rousey losing just made her so much more money. I am not saying she threw the fight, but she is in a MUCH better position financially now moving forward by FAR. Rematch is lotta $$, best of 3 after she wins is $$$$

Not a chance. Rematch will be big. Sponsors will be much less.

did she just lose her sponsors or something?

They aren't lining up outside her hospital room looking for her to do commercials.

 

[ghostguy123]

could does not = would. Just an FYI.

Rousey losing just made her so much more money. I am not saying she threw the fight, but she is in a MUCH better position financially now moving forward by FAR. Rematch is lotta $$, best of 3 after she wins is $$$$

Not a chance. Rematch will be big. Sponsors will be much less.

did she just lose her sponsors or something?

They aren't lining up outside her hospital room looking for her to do commercials.

And? She already has sponsors, and I imagine they are not dropping her.

Was she going to gain several more with a win last night? Who knows, maybe, maybe not. I don't think so. I think she was pretty much as popular as she was going to get.

Now she will make bank on rematches. So I think this loss improves her financial outlook with rematch #1, then the inevitable grudge match.

But really, I do not think this loss hurt her financial situation regarding sponsors. If it did, then hey, I stand corrected, but I simply do not think it did or that it will.

 

[kutta]

could does not = would. Just an FYI.

Rousey losing just made her so much more money. I am not saying she threw the fight, but she is in a MUCH better position financially now moving forward by FAR. Rematch is lotta $$, best of 3 after she wins is $$$$

Not a chance. Rematch will be big. Sponsors will be much less.

did she just lose her sponsors or something?

They aren't lining up outside her hospital room looking for her to do commercials.

And? She already has sponsors, and I imagine they are not dropping her.

Was she going to gain several more with a win last night? Who knows, maybe, maybe not. I don't think so. I think she was pretty much as popular as she was going to get.

Now she will make bank on rematches. So I think this loss improves her financial outlook with rematch #1, then the inevitable grudge match.

But really, I do not think this loss hurt her financial situation regarding sponsors. If it did, then hey, I stand corrected, but I simply do not think it did or that it will.

Well, we will see. I think it hurts big time for future advertisers. She was the "best fighter in the world," and some people thought she was unbeatable. That is very marketable. Now she is just another fighter who was over rated and took a bad loss. That is not nearly as marketable.

I agree a rematch will be HUGE. But if she loses that, she is pretty much done.

 

[ghostguy123]

If she loses a rematch sure, but that is an entirely different conversation, one I have not touched on. Of course it would be terrible for her if that happened.

But as of right now nobody is going to drop her, and not real sure a win last night was going to get her more endorsements.

So right now, I think her financial outlook improved.

 

[kutta]

If she loses a rematch sure, but that is an entirely different conversation, one I have not touched on. Of course it would be terrible for her if that happened.

But as of right now nobody is going to drop her, and not real sure a win last night was going to get her more endorsements.

So right now, I think her financial outlook improved.

Well, we disagree. She went from one of the biggest stars in the world and someone seen as unbeatable, to someone who took a huge beating and looked horrible doing it. I don't see how this helps her. Except, of course, for a big rematch payday, but she was making tons of money on fights anyway.

 

[NewlyRetired]

So right now, I think her financial outlook improved.

I already read today they are thinking about dropping the Roadhouse remake because of her instant drop in marketability (there are companies that do surveys non stop on this stuff tracking the Q of celebs).

She has a chance to recover with a rematch win but 99% of her viability in marketing was based on being unbeatable.

I don't think the sponsors are going to dry up but she might not see so many doors open to her.

 

[ghostguy123]

So right now, I think her financial outlook improved.

I already read today they are thinking about dropping the Roadhouse remake because of her instant drop in marketability (there are companies that do surveys non stop on this stuff tracking the Q of celebs).

She has a chance to recover with a rematch win but 99% of her viability in marketing was based on being unbeatable.

I don't think the sponsors are going to dry up but she might not see so many doors open to her.

I hope they drop that movie, good grief. That would be a career killer.

 

[kutta]

So right now, I think her financial outlook improved.

I already read today they are thinking about dropping the Roadhouse remake because of her instant drop in marketability (there are companies that do surveys non stop on this stuff tracking the Q of celebs).

She has a chance to recover with a rematch win but 99% of her viability in marketing was based on being unbeatable.

I don't think the sponsors are going to dry up but she might not see so many doors open to her.

I hope they drop that movie, good grief. That would be a career killer.

So losing a fight and losing a movie are both good for her career?

 

[ghostguy123]

So right now, I think her financial outlook improved.

I already read today they are thinking about dropping the Roadhouse remake because of her instant drop in marketability (there are companies that do surveys non stop on this stuff tracking the Q of celebs).

She has a chance to recover with a rematch win but 99% of her viability in marketing was based on being unbeatable.

I don't think the sponsors are going to dry up but she might not see so many doors open to her.

I hope they drop that movie, good grief. That would be a career killer.

So losing a fight and losing a movie are both good for her career?

Although the movie might actually, cause how can that NOT be horrible? I was being sarcastic but damn, that movie will be horrible.

 

[dparker713]

If she loses a rematch sure, but that is an entirely different conversation, one I have not touched on. Of course it would be terrible for her if that happened.

But as of right now nobody is going to drop her, and not real sure a win last night was going to get her more endorsements.

So right now, I think her financial outlook improved.

Its pretty simple actually, that fight improved her financial outlook within MMA. Meanwhile her financial outlook outside MMA took a big hit.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

some of you guys crack me up ...thank you

 

[Tom Servo]

could does not = would. Just an FYI.

Rousey losing just made her so much more money. I am not saying she threw the fight, but she is in a MUCH better position financially now moving forward by FAR. Rematch is lotta $$, best of 3 after she wins is $$$$

Not a chance. Rematch will be big. Sponsors will be much less.

did she just lose her sponsors or something?

They aren't lining up outside her hospital room looking for her to do commercials.

And? She already has sponsors, and I imagine they are not dropping her.

Was she going to gain several more with a win last night? Who knows, maybe, maybe not. I don't think so. I think she was pretty much as popular as she was going to get.

Now she will make bank on rematches. So I think this loss improves her financial outlook with rematch #1, then the inevitable grudge match.

But really, I do not think this loss hurt her financial situation regarding sponsors. If it did, then hey, I stand corrected, but I simply do not think it did or that it will.

Well, we will see. I think it hurts big time for future advertisers. She was the "best fighter in the world," and some people thought she was unbeatable. That is very marketable. Now she is just another fighter who was over rated and took a bad loss. That is not nearly as marketable.

I agree a rematch will be HUGE. But if she loses that, she is pretty much done.

Relevant.

Rousey’s defeat won’t stop her from being a big star and a potentially viable cover athlete for EA. It’ll certainly help if she wins her next fight, but her planned presence on the video game cover looks awkward at the moment. The game launches this coming spring.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Rowdy Roddy Piper called from the grave. He wants his nickname back.

 

[kentric]

She'd still kick my ###. Even with a concussion.

 

[Jayrod]

How long would Rousey last with Mayweather?

Serious question.

Other way around. How long could Mayweather last with Rhonda? Less than a minute and he'd never box again after she snapped his arm.

 

[gameday]

media creation. Never understood it. So what that she was 12-0? How does that equate all the #### she talked or make people even begin to think she'd beat men let alone world class male athletes.

Agree 100%. UFC did a superb job of packaging Rousey. When she/they said she'd beat Mayweather, and when Rousey said she'd beat any male in the world in a street fight, it was primarily to create interest. There is no way they'd ever let her fight a guy yet they used that just to get everyone talking and sell tickets. A Greco wrestler would totally annihilate her, and any boxer would simply pick her apart. Rousey didn't even take 1st place in Women's Judo in the Olympics, and all of a sudden she becomes some unbeatable beast. Geez, get real.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

I'm not a Rhonda Rousey apologist or anything but there's a whole lot of piling on and overreaction going on. Hilarious.

 

[Ditka Butkus]

So right now, I think her financial outlook improved.

I already read today they are thinking about dropping the Roadhouse remake because of her instant drop in marketability (there are companies that do surveys non stop on this stuff tracking the Q of celebs).

She has a chance to recover with a rematch win but 99% of her viability in marketing was based on being unbeatable.

I don't think the sponsors are going to dry up but she might not see so many doors open to her.

I hope they drop that movie, good grief. That would be a career killer.

Maybe they can rewrite it with Holly Holm as the villain....No that won't work...nevermind

 

[steelerfan1]

I'm not a Rhonda Rousey apologist or anything but there's a whole lot of piling on and overreaction going on. Hilarious.

Here's where I am. Was rooting for her to get something like this for some humble pie.

I think she believed the hype. She didn't look in great shape and I would bet just taking for granted that she would be able to go in there and take her opponent out in a round.

Now maybe she's been made aware that she needs an elite team and has to 100% commit again.

And yes she would still kick my butt.

 

[James Daulton]

The chick who beat her is pretty hot. I'd be nervous though having a wife who could likely punch or kick me in the face and knock me out. Still would bang though.

 

[Tom Servo]

I'm not a Rhonda Rousey apologist or anything but there's a whole lot of piling on and overreaction going on. Hilarious.

Did you write this article?

But there’s so much more to this than that. Rousey’s loss, in my opinion, reveals two key things: 1) fight fandom and celebrity culture are similar in their fickleness and 2) perceived “invincibility” creates a vortex of reality distortion that affects even the best fighters and most ardent fans.

I mean, how do you go from "SHE'S UNSTOPPABLE! SHE COULD BEAT MONEY MAYWEATHER!!!" to "AW, SHE'S DOG CRAP!!" in like zero point 2 seconds? It's like she's never allowed to have a bad day, never make a mistake. I get it; you want a superhero. Instead, you got a fallible human being...again.

 

[BassNBrew]

Where are all the guys who said she'd tear the arm off of Mayweather with her foot in about 20 seconds and then use said arm to pummel him silly until he cried?

 

[Jules Winnfield]

media creation. Never understood it. So what that she was 12-0? How does that equate all the #### she talked or make people even begin to think she'd beat men let alone world class male athletes.

Agree 100%. UFC did a superb job of packaging Rousey. When she/they said she'd beat Mayweather, and when Rousey said she'd beat any male in the world in a street fight, it was primarily to create interest. There is no way they'd ever let her fight a guy yet they used that just to get everyone talking and sell tickets. A Greco wrestler would totally annihilate her, and any boxer would simply pick her apart. Rousey didn't even take 1st place in Women's Judo in the Olympics, and all of a sudden she becomes some unbeatable beast. Geez, get real.

Don't forget that an ESPN poll voted her Greatest Female Athlete EVER and SI voted her Most Dominate Athlete Alive. So does this make Holly Holmes the new recipient of those two titles?

 

[James Daulton]

Where are all the guys who said she'd tear the arm off of Mayweather with her foot in about 20 seconds and then use said arm to pummel him silly until he cried?

Just goes to show that a good boxer/kick boxer with excellent takedown defense makes for a pretty lethal combination. I wonder if this combo may be the best mix for a street fight too?

 

[cstu]

Not afraid of someone who hides their face after a beatdown:

http://www.tmz.com/2015/11/17/ronda-rousey-face-video-fight-holly-holm/

 

[packersfan]

Is she still banging Turtle?

 

[BassNBrew]

She'd beat a lot of the male MMA fighters in her weight class.

 

[moleculo]

Where are all the guys who said she'd tear the arm off of Mayweather with her foot in about 20 seconds and then use said arm to pummel him silly until he cried?

Just goes to show that a good boxer/kick boxer with excellent takedown defense makes for a pretty lethal combination. I wonder if this combo may be the best mix for a street fight too?

There is no best combo.

The key is good takedowns and/or takedown defense. If your wrestling is good, you can control where you want the fight to be, and can dictate terms.

i would note that takedown defense is easier than takedown offense. So if you had to choose, it's probably better to be good at striking than jiu-jitsu.

 

[top dog]

Mayweather would like you guys to stop picking on her...

http://espn.go.com/mma/story/_/id/14152889/floyd-mayweather-defends-ronda-rousey-loss

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Floyd Mayweather has come to Ronda Rousey's defense, despite all the verbal sparring that has gone on between the two fighters.

"I don't think it's cool how everyone is trolling her on social media," Mayweather told FightHype.com about his reaction to Rousey's stunning defeat to Holly Holm at UFC 193. "Certain things you have to learn. People will love you on Friday and then Sunday morning, it's nothing but negative comments and people making jokes and people making fun about you, which I don't think is cool.

"I've never been on the other side, so I don't know how it feels. I'm pretty sure she's a very, very strong person, but we still have to take into consideration that she has feelings."

Holm (10-0), a former world boxing champion, scored the biggest upset in the sport's history Sunday, knocking out Rousey (12-1) with a left head kick in the second round to claim the women's bantamweight title.

Rousey has put up an Instagram post to let her fans know that "I'll be back."Mayweather (49-0), long rated No. 1 on ESPN's pound-for-pound list, believes Rousey will "make some noise again" in the ring.

"Everything happens for a reason. This was already written," said Mayweather, who said after his last fight that he has retired. "Listen, if God says, 'In Floyd's career, I don't want him to lose,' you know what? I wasn't going to lose. That doesn't mean that I haven't took a loss before. I'm not talking about boxing; I'm just talking about life. ...

"I think that everything is just a learning experience. In due time, she'll be able to bounce back and make some noise again in mixed martial arts."

Mayweather has even offered to help Rousey hone her boxing skills.

"I want Ronda Rousey to hold her head up high and don't let this discourage you," Mayweather said. "If you need help as far as with boxing, I'm here to help you. It's all about timing and inches. Her ground game is unbelievable. She'll be OK."

Rousey's war of words with Mayweather first escalated in July, when she said after winning the ESPY for Best Fighter, for which Mayweather was also a nominee: "I wonder how Floyd feels being beat by a woman for once. I'd like to see him pretend to not know who I am now."The remarks were made a year after a July 2014 interview with Mayweather, in which he said of Rousey, "I don't even know who he is."

Since then, Rousey and Mayweather have taken jobs at each other on various other topics, including wealth and Rousey's comment that she could beat Mayweather in a no-rules mixed martial arts-style fight in the Octagon.

"Just to set the record straight. I don't have anything against MMA fighters," Mayweather told FightHype.com. "It's just like boxing; you win some, you lose some. A true champion can take a loss and bounce back."

In fact, Mayweather has offered his plan as to how Rousey should do it.

"I think that she needs some time off to regroup and refocus. I think they're rushing her. They need to build Ronda Rousey back up, her confidence back up, even though I think she's probably still confident," Mayweather said. "Let Holly fight, defend the title a few times, and build it. That's what I would do ... slowly build it up. It's all about timing."

 

[Tom Servo]

She'd beat a lot of the male MMA fighters in her weight class.

 

[BassNBrew]

In fact, Mayweather has offered his plan as to how Rousey should do it.

Mayweather said. "Let Holly fight, defend the title 10 years, and build it. That's what I would do ... slowly build it up until Holly is well past her prime. It's all about timing."

 

[NewlyRetired]

In fact, Mayweather has offered his plan as to how Rousey should do it.

Mayweather said. "Let Holly fight, defend the title 10 years, and build it. That's what I would do ... slowly build it up until Holly is well past her prime. It's all about timing."

Much of what he says is tongue in cheek I assume. Rhonda is already 28 years old now.

 

[metoo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdzLfLKwLqg

 

[fruity pebbles]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdzLfLKwLqg

Lol Ruby Tuesdays

 

[James Daulton]

Where are all the guys who said she'd tear the arm off of Mayweather with her foot in about 20 seconds and then use said arm to pummel him silly until he cried?

Just goes to show that a good boxer/kick boxer with excellent takedown defense makes for a pretty lethal combination. I wonder if this combo may be the best mix for a street fight too?

There is no best combo.

The key is good takedowns and/or takedown defense. If your wrestling is good, you can control where you want the fight to be, and can dictate terms.

i would note that takedown defense is easier than takedown offense. So if you had to choose, it's probably better to be good at striking than jiu-jitsu.

But a wrestler facing a striker with good takedown defense has to come forward to try to get the takedown. They'll eat punches on the way in and out. Rinse and repeat. It seems that even the best wrestlers or jiu-jitsu guys get taken out by strikers who can defend the takedown.

Thoughts on street fight importance?

 

[Ditka Butkus]

media creation. Never understood it. So what that she was 12-0? How does that equate all the #### she talked or make people even begin to think she'd beat men let alone world class male athletes.

Agree 100%. UFC did a superb job of packaging Rousey. When she/they said she'd beat Mayweather, and when Rousey said she'd beat any male in the world in a street fight, it was primarily to create interest. There is no way they'd ever let her fight a guy yet they used that just to get everyone talking and sell tickets. A Greco wrestler would totally annihilate her, and any boxer would simply pick her apart. Rousey didn't even take 1st place in Women's Judo in the Olympics, and all of a sudden she becomes some unbeatable beast. Geez, get real.

Don't forget that an ESPN poll voted her Greatest Female Athlete EVER and SI voted her Most Dominate Athlete Alive. So does this make Holly Holmes the new recipient of those two titles?

To be the man you've got to beat the man..WOOOOOOO

 

[moleculo]

Where are all the guys who said she'd tear the arm off of Mayweather with her foot in about 20 seconds and then use said arm to pummel him silly until he cried?

Just goes to show that a good boxer/kick boxer with excellent takedown defense makes for a pretty lethal combination. I wonder if this combo may be the best mix for a street fight too?

There is no best combo.

The key is good takedowns and/or takedown defense. If your wrestling is good, you can control where you want the fight to be, and can dictate terms.

i would note that takedown defense is easier than takedown offense. So if you had to choose, it's probably better to be good at striking than jiu-jitsu.

But a wrestler facing a striker with good takedown defense has to come forward to try to get the takedown. They'll eat punches on the way in and out. Rinse and repeat. It seems that even the best wrestlers or jiu-jitsu guys get taken out by strikers who can defend the takedown.

Thoughts on street fight importance?

thats right. A good striker with good takedown defense is tough to beat. A good jiu-jitsu guy with good takedowns is gonna get eat some punches. He may win in the end, but he will take some damage.

As far as street stuff...dunno. That's not what I train for. It's a different game. The ground is hard, I'd rather not be on it if I had my choice. Also, in a street-fight, there may be more than one opponent. It would be really tough to fend off more than one attacker if your gameplan involved ground-work.

 

[Ditka Butkus]

Where are all the guys who said she'd tear the arm off of Mayweather with her foot in about 20 seconds and then use said arm to pummel him silly until he cried?

Just goes to show that a good boxer/kick boxer with excellent takedown defense makes for a pretty lethal combination. I wonder if this combo may be the best mix for a street fight too?

There is no best combo.

The key is good takedowns and/or takedown defense. If your wrestling is good, you can control where you want the fight to be, and can dictate terms.

i would note that takedown defense is easier than takedown offense. So if you had to choose, it's probably better to be good at striking than jiu-jitsu.

But a wrestler facing a striker with good takedown defense has to come forward to try to get the takedown. They'll eat punches on the way in and out. Rinse and repeat. It seems that even the best wrestlers or jiu-jitsu guys get taken out by strikers who can defend the takedown.

Thoughts on street fight importance?

thats right. A good striker with good takedown defense is tough to beat. A good jiu-jitsu guy with good takedowns is gonna get eat some punches. He may win in the end, but he will take some damage.

As far as street stuff...dunno. That's not what I train for. It's a different game. The ground is hard, I'd rather not be on it if I had my choice. Also, in a street-fight, there may be more than one opponent. It would be really tough to fend off more than one attacker if your gameplan involved ground-work.

Not to mention the tire iron

 

[fruity pebbles]

Where are all the guys who said she'd tear the arm off of Mayweather with her foot in about 20 seconds and then use said arm to pummel him silly until he cried?

Just goes to show that a good boxer/kick boxer with excellent takedown defense makes for a pretty lethal combination. I wonder if this combo may be the best mix for a street fight too?

There is no best combo.The key is good takedowns and/or takedown defense. If your wrestling is good, you can control where you want the fight to be, and can dictate terms.

i would note that takedown defense is easier than takedown offense. So if you had to choose, it's probably better to be good at striking than jiu-jitsu.

But a wrestler facing a striker with good takedown defense has to come forward to try to get the takedown. They'll eat punches on the way in and out. Rinse and repeat. It seems that even the best wrestlers or jiu-jitsu guys get taken out by strikers who can defend the takedown.

Thoughts on street fight importance?

Never want to go to the ground in a street fight. Good place to get kicked in the head by one of his friends. So id say the boxer with a strong takedown defense would be optimal for the street.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

Where are all the guys who said she'd tear the arm off of Mayweather with her foot in about 20 seconds and then use said arm to pummel him silly until he cried?

Just goes to show that a good boxer/kick boxer with excellent takedown defense makes for a pretty lethal combination. I wonder if this combo may be the best mix for a street fight too?

There is no best combo.The key is good takedowns and/or takedown defense. If your wrestling is good, you can control where you want the fight to be, and can dictate terms.

i would note that takedown defense is easier than takedown offense. So if you had to choose, it's probably better to be good at striking than jiu-jitsu.

But a wrestler facing a striker with good takedown defense has to come forward to try to get the takedown. They'll eat punches on the way in and out. Rinse and repeat. It seems that even the best wrestlers or jiu-jitsu guys get taken out by strikers who can defend the takedown.

Thoughts on street fight importance?

thats right. A good striker with good takedown defense is tough to beat. A good jiu-jitsu guy with good takedowns is gonna get eat some punches. He may win in the end, but he will take some damage.As far as street stuff...dunno. That's not what I train for. It's a different game. The ground is hard, I'd rather not be on it if I had my choice. Also, in a street-fight, there may be more than one opponent. It would be really tough to fend off more than one attacker if your gameplan involved ground-work.

I'd just get Max Cady to train me

 

[James Daulton]

Where are all the guys who said she'd tear the arm off of Mayweather with her foot in about 20 seconds and then use said arm to pummel him silly until he cried?

Just goes to show that a good boxer/kick boxer with excellent takedown defense makes for a pretty lethal combination. I wonder if this combo may be the best mix for a street fight too?

There is no best combo.

The key is good takedowns and/or takedown defense. If your wrestling is good, you can control where you want the fight to be, and can dictate terms.

i would note that takedown defense is easier than takedown offense. So if you had to choose, it's probably better to be good at striking than jiu-jitsu.

But a wrestler facing a striker with good takedown defense has to come forward to try to get the takedown. They'll eat punches on the way in and out. Rinse and repeat. It seems that even the best wrestlers or jiu-jitsu guys get taken out by strikers who can defend the takedown.

Thoughts on street fight importance?

thats right. A good striker with good takedown defense is tough to beat. A good jiu-jitsu guy with good takedowns is gonna get eat some punches. He may win in the end, but he will take some damage.

As far as street stuff...dunno. That's not what I train for. It's a different game. The ground is hard, I'd rather not be on it if I had my choice. Also, in a street-fight, there may be more than one opponent. It would be really tough to fend off more than one attacker if your gameplan involved ground-work.

Step up the training man! Some punk looks at you wrong, you wreck them.

 

[shady inc]

i think i would beat rousey but lose to holm