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Would you rather have Tebow or Sanchez as your starting quarterback? (1 Viewer)

If you were starting an NFL franchise, and had to build your team around Sanchez or Tebow, which wou

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Tebow, wish I had a good reason why.

I guess it's this: All Sanchez has proven in 2+ years is that he's a solid game manager, the Broncos have won games BECAUSE of Tebow's play.

 
i hate sanchez with the heat of a 1000 suns.

i hate tebow with the heat of a 100 suns.

i love boobs.

rather have tebow.

and boobs.

 
'Oh Yes! said:
i hate sanchez with the heat of a 1000 suns.i hate tebow with the heat of a 100 suns.i love boobs. rather have tebow.and boobs.
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This was my answer as well. All of it.EDIT: Except the hating Tebow part. I like Tebow. And boobs.
 
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I'd take Sanchez. Tebow's weak throwing skills are more of a deterent than Sanchez' ability to ocassionally throw a pick-6. Sanchez' arm isn't tremendous and he gets skittish during a good pass rush, but over the long-term, I'd definately take him over Tebow.

 
Whichever one has the better defense. Let them manage close games behind a great defense and they seem to be ok. Make them play from behind and I think they both get badly exposed.

 
Watching Sanchez is extremely frustrating.

Sanchez can't get off his first read quick enough and if you take that away he struggles. He has bad pocket awareness and rarely makes things happen while a team brings pressure and or the O line struggles. He seems to have leveled off and it is a level I would not feel comfortable with as a franchise.

Watching Tebow at this stage is frustrating at times but at least his upside is trumping that of Sanchez.

I would take Tebow, but both guys still leave a lot to be desired going forward to say the least.

 
you aren't going anywhere with either right now but at least Sanchez has the tools. Tebow has better intangibles but just not near enough QB skills. Sanchez throws a pretty ball at least with a pretty quick release which gives him much more upside

 
No stick a spork through your eyeball option?

I'd rather have Sanchez between the two though. Sanchez is frustrating this season but he's won before and I think the playcalling isn't doing him any favors.

 
If I'm thinking short term, I'd choose Tebow and run the wildcat full time. I think you could design a halfway competitive offense around him. If/when Tebow gets injured the team is SOL though.

Longer term, I think I'd rather start with Sanchez because I could get a halfway decent, normal QB in the off season and not have to retrain my entire team on how to play the offense.

 
Sanchez. This tebow flavor of the week #### is cute, but give the NFL a few weeks and it will go the way of the wildcat. I don't even love Sanchez, but that's why I am a coach, cuz I think he has the tools than can be refined, whereas Tebow doesn't.

 
I think the perception of Sanchez is hurt by a number of factors. First he's playing on a big market team with a vocal, polarizing coach. People love to take shots at the Jets and a young, highly touted, highly paid QB who has been the teams Achilles heel in the eyes of many is the easiest target. Second though, I think we've suddenly become spoiled with young QBs because of the relatively quick success guys like Matt Ryan, Flacco, Bradford, Freeman, and now Newton and Dalton have had. It used to be you had to give a QB a few years to develop before they were ready for the speed of the game and had the ability to do pre-snap reads with ease. The funny thing is that a few of those QBs, namely Freeman, Ryan, and Flacco are not having the years many expected. They are regressing, yet I don't hear people saying those teams need to go in a different direction at QB.

Lets take a look at some stats of various QBs after 3 full seasons in the NFL, regardless if they started every game or not:

Troy Aikman 38 gm 618/1055 58.6% 7082 YDs 31/46 TD/INT 70.5 RatEli Manning 39 690/1276 54.1% 8049 54/44 73.2Mark Sanchez 41 667/1209 55.2% 8068 43/43 72.9Drew Brees 28 540/909 59.4% 5613 29/31 73.7I'm not saying that Sanchez will be 1/4 as good as any of these QBs when it is all said and done, i'm just trying to point out that 2 1/2 years in the NFL as a QB doesn't always tell the whole story. Hell, Brees was SO bad in his 3rd NFL season that SD drafted Rivers. Then Brees went on to have a phenomenal 4th season and if not for a shoulder injury might have stayed there.
I watch every Jets game and while Sanchez can be maddening at times, I have not given up on him...yet. I still think he has what it takes to become a good NFL QB.

 
'Crash Davis said:
I think the perception of Sanchez is hurt by a number of factors. First he's playing on a big market team with a vocal, polarizing coach. People love to take shots at the Jets and a young, highly touted, highly paid QB who has been the teams Achilles heel in the eyes of many is the easiest target. Second though, I think we've suddenly become spoiled with young QBs because of the relatively quick success guys like Matt Ryan, Flacco, Bradford, Freeman, and now Newton and Dalton have had. It used to be you had to give a QB a few years to develop before they were ready for the speed of the game and had the ability to do pre-snap reads with ease. The funny thing is that a few of those QBs, namely Freeman, Ryan, and Flacco are not having the years many expected. They are regressing, yet I don't hear people saying those teams need to go in a different direction at QB. Lets take a look at some stats of various QBs after 3 full seasons in the NFL, regardless if they started every game or not:

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Troy Aikman 38 gm	618/1055	58.6%	7082 YDs	31/46 TD/INT	70.5 RatEli Manning 39  	690/1276	54.1%	8049    	54/44		73.2Mark Sanchez 41		667/1209	55.2%	8068        	43/43		72.9Drew Brees   28     	540/909        	59.4%	5613        	29/31		73.7
I'm not saying that Sanchez will be 1/4 as good as any of these QBs when it is all said and done, i'm just trying to point out that 2 1/2 years in the NFL as a QB doesn't always tell the whole story. Hell, Brees was SO bad in his 3rd NFL season that SD drafted Rivers. Then Brees went on to have a phenomenal 4th season and if not for a shoulder injury might have stayed there. I watch every Jets game and while Sanchez can be maddening at times, I have not given up on him...yet. I still think he has what it takes to become a good NFL QB.
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Tebow supporters can (and have) make the same kind of argument by looking at the first 8 games of other quarterbacks. Frankly I think both guys are being held to higher standards than most quarterbacks with the same amount of experience would be.
 
'Crash Davis said:
I think the perception of Sanchez is hurt by a number of factors. First he's playing on a big market team with a vocal, polarizing coach. People love to take shots at the Jets and a young, highly touted, highly paid QB who has been the teams Achilles heel in the eyes of many is the easiest target. Second though, I think we've suddenly become spoiled with young QBs because of the relatively quick success guys like Matt Ryan, Flacco, Bradford, Freeman, and now Newton and Dalton have had. It used to be you had to give a QB a few years to develop before they were ready for the speed of the game and had the ability to do pre-snap reads with ease. The funny thing is that a few of those QBs, namely Freeman, Ryan, and Flacco are not having the years many expected. They are regressing, yet I don't hear people saying those teams need to go in a different direction at QB. Lets take a look at some stats of various QBs after 3 full seasons in the NFL, regardless if they started every game or not:

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Troy Aikman 38 gm	618/1055	58.6%	7082 YDs	31/46 TD/INT	70.5 RatEli Manning 39  	690/1276	54.1%	8049    	54/44		73.2Mark Sanchez 41		667/1209	55.2%	8068	        43/43		72.9Drew Brees   28         540/909	        59.4%	5613	        29/31		73.7
I'm not saying that Sanchez will be 1/4 as good as any of these QBs when it is all said and done, i'm just trying to point out that 2 1/2 years in the NFL as a QB doesn't always tell the whole story. Hell, Brees was SO bad in his 3rd NFL season that SD drafted Rivers. Then Brees went on to have a phenomenal 4th season and if not for a shoulder injury might have stayed there. I watch every Jets game and while Sanchez can be maddening at times, I have not given up on him...yet. I still think he has what it takes to become a good NFL QB.
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stats are nice and tell part of the story but they don't take into account the caliber of their defense, the surrounding players, the line, etc.. All of which I'd imagine that Sanchez has a BIG advantage over that field. He's stepped into nearly the perfect situation and this year for the 1st time it seems they've had some adversity on the line and he looks completely lost in the pocket. He's got zero pocket presense, isn't planting his feet and just looks like a mess,...throw the ball away once in a while.....
 
'Banger said:
'Crash Davis said:
I think the perception of Sanchez is hurt by a number of factors. First he's playing on a big market team with a vocal, polarizing coach. People love to take shots at the Jets and a young, highly touted, highly paid QB who has been the teams Achilles heel in the eyes of many is the easiest target. Second though, I think we've suddenly become spoiled with young QBs because of the relatively quick success guys like Matt Ryan, Flacco, Bradford, Freeman, and now Newton and Dalton have had. It used to be you had to give a QB a few years to develop before they were ready for the speed of the game and had the ability to do pre-snap reads with ease. The funny thing is that a few of those QBs, namely Freeman, Ryan, and Flacco are not having the years many expected. They are regressing, yet I don't hear people saying those teams need to go in a different direction at QB. Lets take a look at some stats of various QBs after 3 full seasons in the NFL, regardless if they started every game or not:

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Troy Aikman 38 gm	618/1055	58.6%	7082 YDs	31/46 TD/INT	70.5 RatEli Manning 39  	690/1276	54.1%	8049    	54/44		73.2Mark Sanchez 41		667/1209	55.2%	8068	        43/43		72.9Drew Brees   28         540/909	        59.4%	5613	        29/31		73.7
I'm not saying that Sanchez will be 1/4 as good as any of these QBs when it is all said and done, i'm just trying to point out that 2 1/2 years in the NFL as a QB doesn't always tell the whole story. Hell, Brees was SO bad in his 3rd NFL season that SD drafted Rivers. Then Brees went on to have a phenomenal 4th season and if not for a shoulder injury might have stayed there. I watch every Jets game and while Sanchez can be maddening at times, I have not given up on him...yet. I still think he has what it takes to become a good NFL QB.
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stats are nice and tell part of the story but they don't take into account the caliber of their defense, the surrounding players, the line, etc.. All of which I'd imagine that Sanchez has a BIG advantage over that field. He's stepped into nearly the perfect situation and this year for the 1st time it seems they've had some adversity on the line and he looks completely lost in the pocket. He's got zero pocket presense, isn't planting his feet and just looks like a mess,...throw the ball away once in a while.....
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I can also argue that because of that defense and the defensive minded head coach, his development is stunted a bit because it has been drilled into since his first season to protect the ball. As far as Rex is concerned his first job is protecting the football, he's so scared to make mistakes that he's afraid to make plays. How often do they let him throw down the field? Growing pains are far less tolerated when your team has a good to great defense and playoff aspirations. Phil Simms talked about this and related it to his experiences as a Giant QB with Parcells as HC. All i'm saying is that it is way too early to close the book on Sanchez.
 
'Crash Davis said:
'Banger said:
'Crash Davis said:
I think the perception of Sanchez is hurt by a number of factors. First he's playing on a big market team with a vocal, polarizing coach. People love to take shots at the Jets and a young, highly touted, highly paid QB who has been the teams Achilles heel in the eyes of many is the easiest target. Second though, I think we've suddenly become spoiled with young QBs because of the relatively quick success guys like Matt Ryan, Flacco, Bradford, Freeman, and now Newton and Dalton have had. It used to be you had to give a QB a few years to develop before they were ready for the speed of the game and had the ability to do pre-snap reads with ease. The funny thing is that a few of those QBs, namely Freeman, Ryan, and Flacco are not having the years many expected. They are regressing, yet I don't hear people saying those teams need to go in a different direction at QB. Lets take a look at some stats of various QBs after 3 full seasons in the NFL, regardless if they started every game or not:

Code: 
Troy Aikman 38 gm	618/1055	58.6%	7082 YDs	31/46 TD/INT	70.5 RatEli Manning 39  	690/1276	54.1%	8049    	54/44		73.2Mark Sanchez 41		667/1209	55.2%	8068	        43/43		72.9Drew Brees   28         540/909	        59.4%	5613	        29/31		73.7
I'm not saying that Sanchez will be 1/4 as good as any of these QBs when it is all said and done, i'm just trying to point out that 2 1/2 years in the NFL as a QB doesn't always tell the whole story. Hell, Brees was SO bad in his 3rd NFL season that SD drafted Rivers. Then Brees went on to have a phenomenal 4th season and if not for a shoulder injury might have stayed there. I watch every Jets game and while Sanchez can be maddening at times, I have not given up on him...yet. I still think he has what it takes to become a good NFL QB.
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stats are nice and tell part of the story but they don't take into account the caliber of their defense, the surrounding players, the line, etc.. All of which I'd imagine that Sanchez has a BIG advantage over that field. He's stepped into nearly the perfect situation and this year for the 1st time it seems they've had some adversity on the line and he looks completely lost in the pocket. He's got zero pocket presense, isn't planting his feet and just looks like a mess,...throw the ball away once in a while.....
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I can also argue that because of that defense and the defensive minded head coach, his development is stunted a bit because it has been drilled into since his first season to protect the ball. As far as Rex is concerned his first job is protecting the football, he's so scared to make mistakes that he's afraid to make plays. How often do they let him throw down the field? Growing pains are far less tolerated when your team has a good to great defense and playoff aspirations. Phil Simms talked about this and related it to his experiences as a Giant QB with Parcells as HC. All i'm saying is that it is way too early to close the book on Sanchez.
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I guess you can argue a lot of things but playing behind a good defense that gives you the ball, gives you short fields, gives you leads and allows you to play two dimensional is a good thing, not a bad thing. I was hopeful that he could become a good QB but I think that window is closing quick. Who knows, I could be wrong but he's got a long way to go. Is he better than Grossman at this point? If they switched teams would he be better than him? I don't know that he would.
 
'kentric said:
I'd take Sanchez. Tebow's weak throwing skills are more of a deterent than Sanchez' ability to ocassionally throw a pick-6. Sanchez' arm isn't tremendous and he gets skittish during a good pass rush, but over the long-term, I'd definately take him over Tebow.
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this. Tim Tebow will never have anpother starting job in the NFL,even if the broncos win,they dont want to win this way. nobody wants to dumb down an offense to fit his winning skills.
 
I cursed the NFL Network when they ran this poll thursday. Really NFL Network, my two choices are the QB I hate the most (Sanchez) or literally the worst QB ever (Tebow), I would rather run a full time wildcat then deal with either of these garbage QBs.

 
Am I the owner of the franchise, or just the GM or head coach? If I'm the owner, I might be tempted to try Tebow. But as a GM or coach I wouldn't risk my career on such an unorthodox idea and just go with Sanchez.

 
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