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Wow, so Cleveland's fate is essentially out of their hands (1 Viewer)

QuizGuy66

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This scenario actually happened a few years ago with the Dolphins.

Essentially the Browns now have virtually ZERO say in their fate.

If Tennessee wins out, the Browns are out no matter what they do.

If Tennessee loses tonight or next week, the Browns are in no matter what they do.

Only if Tennessee somehow ties one of these two games would the Browns game next week have any bearing on the playoffs.

Crazy, I tell ya!

-QG

 
It all depends on how long the Colts let the starters play next week. If they leave them in till the game is all but decided, they will probably beat the Titans, but if not, perhaps not.

 
That's interesting considering that Derek Anderson is on the cusp of breaking some team passing records. Do they sit him or go for the passing marks?

 
The game's scheduled for 1, so unless NBC is stupid it will stay there. Therefore the game will have the chance of mattering (hey, ties can happen) so he'll play.

-QG

 
When was the last time both conference WC teams came from the same division? Has it ever happened with a division with only 4 teams?

 
I know it happened a couple times in the old format with the old AFC Central (when it was Cincy-Cleve-Pitt-Hou).

-QG

 
I know it happened a couple times in the old format with the old AFC Central (when it was Cincy-Cleve-Pitt-Hou).-QG
That's very different tho because in the prior format there were THREE wildcards. Starting in 2002 there are only TWO wildcards.
 
If the Browns and Titans tie at 10-6 why are the Browns out of the playoffs?
Conference record?edit: no, that doesn't look like it.
Cle is 9-6 with a 7-5 conference recordTenn is 9-6 with a 6-5 conference recordThey didn't play each other this year so the 1st tie breaker(head to head) doesn't come into play.If Tenn loses then they'll have a worse conference record(tiebreaker #2) so they'd be out no matter what. But if Tenn wins then they'll have an even conference record and better record in common games(tiebreaker #3). Weird, never seen that before. Crazy to think that a team would rest their starters and then miss the playoffs.Edited to add: So do we see Brady Quinn next week then?
 
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If the Browns and Titans tie at 10-6 why are the Browns out of the playoffs?
Conference record?

edit: no, that doesn't look like it.
Cle is 9-6 with a 7-5 conference recordTenn is 9-6 with a 6-5 conference record

They didn't play each other this year so the 1st tie breaker(head to head) doesn't come into play.

If Tenn loses then they'll have a worse conference record(tiebreaker #2) so they'd be out no matter what. But if Tenn wins then they'll have an even conference record and better record in common games(tiebreaker #3). Weird, never seen that before. Crazy to think that a team would rest their starters and then miss the playoffs.

Edited to add: So do we see Brady Quinn next week then?
after Anderson's performance this week? if you were the coach would you be comfortable with that?
 
I know it happened a couple times in the old format with the old AFC Central (when it was Cincy-Cleve-Pitt-Hou).-QG
That's very different tho because in the prior format there were THREE wildcards. Starting in 2002 there are only TWO wildcards.
Not all that different for some of the years actually, because there used to be only five playoff teams per conference (3 division winners and 2 wild cards). :rolleyes: -QG
 
AhrnCityPahnder said:
Ghost Rider said:
AhrnCityPahnder said:
When was the last time both conference WC teams came from the same division? Has it ever happened with a division with only 4 teams?
The NFC East had three teams in the playoffs last year.
Jeez. Seems like it would be pretty rare.
You would think so, as would I, but we are a Redskins' win next week away from it happening two years in a row.
 
TEOM said:
Assani Fisher said:
If the Browns and Titans tie at 10-6 why are the Browns out of the playoffs?
Conference record?

edit: no, that doesn't look like it.
Cle is 9-6 with a 7-5 conference recordTenn is 9-6 with a 6-5 conference record

They didn't play each other this year so the 1st tie breaker(head to head) doesn't come into play.

If Tenn loses then they'll have a worse conference record(tiebreaker #2) so they'd be out no matter what. But if Tenn wins then they'll have an even conference record and better record in common games(tiebreaker #3). Weird, never seen that before. Crazy to think that a team would rest their starters and then miss the playoffs.

Edited to add: So do we see Brady Quinn next week then?
after Anderson's performance this week? if you were the coach would you be comfortable with that?
I must be missing something -- why would you pull a guy that has won you 9 games and thrown for 28 TD passes for a rookie that hasn't thrown a single pass in the biggest game of the year?
 
TEOM said:
Assani Fisher said:
If the Browns and Titans tie at 10-6 why are the Browns out of the playoffs?
Conference record?

edit: no, that doesn't look like it.
Cle is 9-6 with a 7-5 conference recordTenn is 9-6 with a 6-5 conference record

They didn't play each other this year so the 1st tie breaker(head to head) doesn't come into play.

If Tenn loses then they'll have a worse conference record(tiebreaker #2) so they'd be out no matter what. But if Tenn wins then they'll have an even conference record and better record in common games(tiebreaker #3). Weird, never seen that before. Crazy to think that a team would rest their starters and then miss the playoffs.

Edited to add: So do we see Brady Quinn next week then?
after Anderson's performance this week? if you were the coach would you be comfortable with that?
I must be missing something -- why would you pull a guy that has won you 9 games and thrown for 28 TD passes for a rookie that hasn't thrown a single pass in the biggest game of the year?
What you're missing is that it doesn't matter if Cleveland wins or not (unless Tenn ties). If Tenn wins, the Browns are out no matter what (the best they can do is win and tie at 10-6,but Tenn wins the tiebreaker). If Tenn loses, the worst Cleveland can do is lose and tie at 9-7, but because Tenn is playing a conference game while Cleveland isn't, Tenn would have a 6-6 conference record while Cleveland would be 7-5 and would win the tiebreaker. So, it's not "the biggest game of the year" any more than it is for Indy, Dallas or GB.
 
TEOM said:
Assani Fisher said:
If the Browns and Titans tie at 10-6 why are the Browns out of the playoffs?
Conference record?

edit: no, that doesn't look like it.
Cle is 9-6 with a 7-5 conference recordTenn is 9-6 with a 6-5 conference record

They didn't play each other this year so the 1st tie breaker(head to head) doesn't come into play.

If Tenn loses then they'll have a worse conference record(tiebreaker #2) so they'd be out no matter what. But if Tenn wins then they'll have an even conference record and better record in common games(tiebreaker #3). Weird, never seen that before. Crazy to think that a team would rest their starters and then miss the playoffs.

Edited to add: So do we see Brady Quinn next week then?
after Anderson's performance this week? if you were the coach would you be comfortable with that?
I must be missing something -- why would you pull a guy that has won you 9 games and thrown for 28 TD passes for a rookie that hasn't thrown a single pass in the biggest game of the year?
:own3d: Have you not read the thread at all? This entire thread is about how next week's game is completely meaningless.

 
TEOM said:
Assani Fisher said:
If the Browns and Titans tie at 10-6 why are the Browns out of the playoffs?
Conference record?

edit: no, that doesn't look like it.
Cle is 9-6 with a 7-5 conference recordTenn is 9-6 with a 6-5 conference record

They didn't play each other this year so the 1st tie breaker(head to head) doesn't come into play.

If Tenn loses then they'll have a worse conference record(tiebreaker #2) so they'd be out no matter what. But if Tenn wins then they'll have an even conference record and better record in common games(tiebreaker #3). Weird, never seen that before. Crazy to think that a team would rest their starters and then miss the playoffs.

Edited to add: So do we see Brady Quinn next week then?
after Anderson's performance this week? if you were the coach would you be comfortable with that?
I must be missing something -- why would you pull a guy that has won you 9 games and thrown for 28 TD passes for a rookie that hasn't thrown a single pass in the biggest game of the year?
What you're missing is that it doesn't matter if Cleveland wins or not (unless Tenn ties). If Tenn wins, the Browns are out no matter what (the best they can do is win and tie at 10-6,but Tenn wins the tiebreaker). If Tenn loses, the worst Cleveland can do is lose and tie at 9-7, but because Tenn is playing a conference game while Cleveland isn't, Tenn would have a 6-6 conference record while Cleveland would be 7-5 and would win the tiebreaker. So, it's not "the biggest game of the year" any more than it is for Indy, Dallas or GB.
yeah.....actually if Tenn/Indy ties then the Cleveland game would matter. Small chance I know, but imagine the backlash if Cleveland rested everyone(they play the early game) and then there was actually a tie(Indy/Tenn is the SNF game)!!!
 
TEOM said:
Assani Fisher said:
If the Browns and Titans tie at 10-6 why are the Browns out of the playoffs?
Conference record?

edit: no, that doesn't look like it.
Cle is 9-6 with a 7-5 conference recordTenn is 9-6 with a 6-5 conference record

They didn't play each other this year so the 1st tie breaker(head to head) doesn't come into play.

If Tenn loses then they'll have a worse conference record(tiebreaker #2) so they'd be out no matter what. But if Tenn wins then they'll have an even conference record and better record in common games(tiebreaker #3). Weird, never seen that before. Crazy to think that a team would rest their starters and then miss the playoffs.

Edited to add: So do we see Brady Quinn next week then?
after Anderson's performance this week? if you were the coach would you be comfortable with that?
I must be missing something -- why would you pull a guy that has won you 9 games and thrown for 28 TD passes for a rookie that hasn't thrown a single pass in the biggest game of the year?
What you're missing is that it doesn't matter if Cleveland wins or not (unless Tenn ties). If Tenn wins, the Browns are out no matter what (the best they can do is win and tie at 10-6,but Tenn wins the tiebreaker). If Tenn loses, the worst Cleveland can do is lose and tie at 9-7, but because Tenn is playing a conference game while Cleveland isn't, Tenn would have a 6-6 conference record while Cleveland would be 7-5 and would win the tiebreaker. So, it's not "the biggest game of the year" any more than it is for Indy, Dallas or GB.
yeah.....actually if Tenn/Indy ties then the Cleveland game would matter. Small chance I know, but imagine the backlash if Cleveland rested everyone(they play the early game) and then there was actually a tie(Indy/Tenn is the SNF game)!!!
I feel pretty confident that the Browns aren't going to be resting people. They are going to try to win this game.
 

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