Grigs Allmoon
Footballguy
Holy smokes! Top paid WR as of now? Seriously?
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WR Amon-Ra St. Brown, DET (1 Viewer)
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Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
As of now. Just wait a little while.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I didn’t say he can’t. I said he hasn’t. You never know for sure until someone does it.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Jefferson, Chase, Lamb will all pass him by very soon
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
That is how it works for premium positions, nothing new.
Contract details, as expected, are good, but not quite all it was sold as either:
$35m fully guaranteed, but practical guarantees of about $62m because his 2026 contract becomes guaranteed at some point in 2025. Does have some injury guarantees in year three which push that up to $77m but again that extra $14m guarantees is just for injuries.
If he never sees that final year of his deal, which is $36m, they essentially took the last year of his deal where he was due about $3.5M and folded that into a 4 year/84M contract, or if people prefer to look at is as they added 3 years/81m to the last year of his rookie deal. This again does not count the $36m due the last year of his deal.
Pittman and Ridley will each make more then him over the next 3 seasons but they did have more leverage since ASRB still had a year left ,and like I said in the example above, his 3 new years beat the first 3 years of both of their contracts.
$35m fully guaranteed, but practical guarantees of about $62m because his 2026 contract becomes guaranteed at some point in 2025. Does have some injury guarantees in year three which push that up to $77m but again that extra $14m guarantees is just for injuries.
If he never sees that final year of his deal, which is $36m, they essentially took the last year of his deal where he was due about $3.5M and folded that into a 4 year/84M contract, or if people prefer to look at is as they added 3 years/81m to the last year of his rookie deal. This again does not count the $36m due the last year of his deal.
Pittman and Ridley will each make more then him over the next 3 seasons but they did have more leverage since ASRB still had a year left ,and like I said in the example above, his 3 new years beat the first 3 years of both of their contracts.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Love the player and glad we wrapped him up. He represents what Detroit Lion football has become.
Yikes.
Yeah. He was a top 3 WR last year and he played some games hurt.
2024
Base salary: $1,366,000 (Guaranteed)
Prorated bonus: $3,496,315
Dead cap money: $35,472,315
Cap number: $4,862,315
Per-game roster bonus: $0
2025
Base salary: $8,300,000 (Guaranteed)
Prorated bonus: $5,000,000
Dead cap money $30,610,000
Cap number: $13,910,000
Per game roster bonus: $510,000
2026
Base salary: $27,500,000 (Guaranteed)
Prorated bonus: $5,000,000
Dead cap money $9,900,000
Cap number: $33,110,000
Per game roster bonus: $510,000
2027
Base salary: $23,370,000 ($14,834,00 guaranteed at signing)
Prorated bonus: $5,000,000
Dead cap money $6,600,000
Cap number: $28,980,000
Per game roster bonus: $510,000
2028
Base salary: $35,400,000
Prorated bonus: $5,000,000
Dead cap money $3,300,000
Cap number: $41,010,000
Per game roster bonus: $510,000 ($8.67 million)
ARSB may not see that last $35.4 and $8.67 million. But who knows, in 4 years that may be reasonable if the salary cap keeps skyrocketing.. But for now, I would view it as about a 3-year $76 million deal.
Base salary: $1,366,000 (Guaranteed)
Prorated bonus: $3,496,315
Dead cap money: $35,472,315
Cap number: $4,862,315
Per-game roster bonus: $0
2025
Base salary: $8,300,000 (Guaranteed)
Prorated bonus: $5,000,000
Dead cap money $30,610,000
Cap number: $13,910,000
Per game roster bonus: $510,000
2026
Base salary: $27,500,000 (Guaranteed)
Prorated bonus: $5,000,000
Dead cap money $9,900,000
Cap number: $33,110,000
Per game roster bonus: $510,000
2027
Base salary: $23,370,000 ($14,834,00 guaranteed at signing)
Prorated bonus: $5,000,000
Dead cap money $6,600,000
Cap number: $28,980,000
Per game roster bonus: $510,000
2028
Base salary: $35,400,000
Prorated bonus: $5,000,000
Dead cap money $3,300,000
Cap number: $41,010,000
Per game roster bonus: $510,000 ($8.67 million)
ARSB may not see that last $35.4 and $8.67 million. But who knows, in 4 years that may be reasonable if the salary cap keeps skyrocketing.. But for now, I would view it as about a 3-year $76 million deal.
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I want him everywhere I can. The guy put up amazing numbers last year while playing with a core injury.x.com
x.com
Also love the fact he is a hometown player I can cheer for on Sundays!
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
Jefferson or ASB in 0.5 PPR?
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I have JJ ahead by a tick.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Reception Perception short
- We are seeing a drastically improving player
- Every year he has gotten better, every year we have seen improvements in different routes and against different types of coverages
- In year three, he was lining up at flanker, he was running deeper routes
- He is, right now, exactly where CeeDee Lamb was a year ago.
- For me, he is just outside the elite, but man, he’s the first name you’re talking about.
- Can he improve a 4th straight year? I think he can…but we’ll see.
Chaka
Footballguy
ARSB's continued growth coupled with CeeDee & Jamar not showing up until after preseason ends (hopefully) and JJ having a lesser QB, has him as my WR2 ATM.
Possibly #1 when you factor in the relative likelihood of Tua or Goff missing games.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
4.30 points in full PPR
Have to go back to Week 6 of 2022 to find a worse fantasy game. In that loss to Dallas, the spotter called him off the field after 10 snaps (1-4-0) because they thought wobbled after a hard hit. This was during that weird period after Tua had multiple concussions and they were revising the concussion protocol.
The only other game worse than last night was Week 3 of his rookie year - 1 target 1-2-0 in a loss to Baltimore (the 66 yard FG game.)
In his previous 30 G St Brown had 270 targets for 197-2403-13 + 11-51 rushing - 520.4 FF pts (17.35 /g).
TampaMike19
Footballguy
ouch. Seems like week 1 teams sell out completely to take out top weapons and see if other teams react. Lions did. Not sure if this is an aberration though or the ceiling will be coming down immensely
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
The Rams game planned to take him and LaPorta away. Just like the Chiefs game planned to take Andrews away. Might not happen to that extent in the future, given that others were able to rack up yards instead.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I’m not a betting man, but if I were I would be smashing the overs on any Week 2 player prop bets for St.
jm192
Footballguy
The Lions are paying the guy like 30 million. He'll get the football. LAR sold out to take him out of the game. Jameson ate. Montgomery ate in OT. I think there's too many supporting weapons for teams to consistently game plan ARSB or La Porta out of the game.
I think he's one of the safest bets for volume in all of FF.
Send out a few feelers. Maybe someone somewhere panics and you can get him slightly discounted. Probably not. But there's more panic after week 1 than any other time.
I think he's one of the safest bets for volume in all of FF.
Send out a few feelers. Maybe someone somewhere panics and you can get him slightly discounted. Probably not. But there's more panic after week 1 than any other time.
God = NFL's most productive player vs. Cover 4
karl.Racki
Footballguy
MCL and possible ACL injury...
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Please post a link, not seeing anything of that nature.
Dan Campbell said he doesn't think it's anything long term.
karl.Racki
Footballguy
Just looks like speculation.
Jacob's Ladder
Footballguy
I own him, I like him as a player and a person, I wish him the best...but did anyone see when he got up at the end of the game and his leg became extremely wobbly? I don't have a GIF of it, but it looked bad. Like his knee was not stable. Maybe it's something, maybe it's everything, but it did not look good IMO.
karl.Racki
Footballguy
Just like every other doctor we post in here?
Just looks like speculation.
massraider
Footballguy
I'm gonna start a Twitter account called Dr. Nick, and every time a player limps off, I am going to post
HI EVERYBODY, looks like his kneecap came off!! Three to four months minimum, maybe back in a week......
HI EVERYBODY, looks like his kneecap came off!! Three to four months minimum, maybe back in a week......
Jacob's Ladder
Footballguy
Everyone can make fun of the Twitter docs all they want, but look at his knee buckle when he stood up at the end of the game. Any common NFL fan can see with their own eyes this isn't good. Amon Ra is as tough as they come so it wouldn't surprise me if he was playing with a compromised ligament most of the game. I'm hoping for the best here but a knee buckling like that after just standing up is not normal.
Just like every other doctor we post in here?
Just looks like speculation.
When it is speculation, post it as speculation. That is all.
Chaka
Footballguy
I wish people wouldn't post those speculations at all. Completely useless.Just like every other doctor we post in here?
Just looks like speculation.
When it is speculation, post it as speculation. That is all.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Major phew… time to get this offense back on track.
Honestly, I thought it looked a lot like cramping. I figured that was why he kept coming back in. If it were more serious, I'd like to think the medical staff would have held him out, because he was limping for like the entire 2nd half.Major phew… time to get this offense back on track.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports Amon-Ra St. Brown “was determined to have only a contusion and cramping” in the Lions’ Week 2 loss to the Bucs.
That phrasing makes it sound like he intimidated the Doctor into telling people that's all it was.
the spanker
Footballguy
Not unheard of both on and off the field these days.
RenegadeRoy
Footballguy
Knowing Amon-Ra, he changed the injury through sheer force of will and spite.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
@NextGenStats
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4h
Amon-Ra St. Brown caught all 7 of his targets for 56 yards and a TD in Week 9, extending his catch streak to 30.
The chances of St. Brown's catch streak — based on the difficulty of each throw — is just 0.0001% (or ~1 in 780,000).
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4h
Amon-Ra St. Brown caught all 7 of his targets for 56 yards and a TD in Week 9, extending his catch streak to 30.
The chances of St. Brown's catch streak — based on the difficulty of each throw — is just 0.0001% (or ~1 in 780,000).
Ilov80s
Footballguy
That’s so crazy 30 targets for 30 receptions
