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WR Antonio Brown, FA (5 Viewers)
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So, assuming Brown did use a fake vax card to pretend he was vaccinated, that’s not OK; but Rodgers lying to the media & refusing to adhere to the NFL’s COVID policy for non-vaxxed players so he could pretend to be vaccinated is OK?
sho nuff
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
floods
Footballguy
If you lie to the government it's worse than lying to anyone else about anything for some reason. Because the vax card is a CDC doc it's a potential a federal issue from what I understand.
I agree with what you’re saying; I just don’t agree that it’s relevant to Brown with regards to the NFL.
I doubt the fact that an altered vax card is a federal offense factored into their decision to suspend him.
Then how did he get away with violating COVID protocols for over 3 months and no penalties? He went from August to early November without wearing a mask at press conferences or on the sidelines, and never got a fine. Do we think the NFL missed that? Remember, this is the league that fines players $5000 for socks being a few inches too low & $10000 for having an untucked jersey. I think if they can catch those things, they’d also have noticed when their un-vaxxed league MVP was blatantly violating COVID protocols.
sho nuff
Footballguy
The same way multiple players on other teams did (I believe Cousins was brought up as having done pressers without a mask as well).
The league didn’t really care and left it up to the teams to police. Which is why the team was fined.
Lol he doesn't want to appeal to focus on his rehab
. You're right, I assume he was suspended because he used a fake vax card which is a felony. Fairly safe assumption but I don't definitively know.
That’s possible, and it might be true. I tend to believe the more simple explanation, which is that Rodgers lied to the media, and lied to the NFL, which is why he didn’t get punished. Then, after his feelings got hurt when people responded negatively to him lying to the media, he lied some more, and claimed the NFL knew.
The fact that he’s Aaron Rodgers & Antonio Brown is Antonio Brown, explains the difference in punishments, IMO.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Rodgers lied.
AB lied.
they both lied. AB had a fake vaccination card.
ARod should have been hit with 1 game, AB’s 3 seems appropriate.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
It’s probably a lie; but since the NFL isn’t very open in any of their discipline processes, we will likely never know.Lol he doesn't want to appeal to focus on his rehab
You're right, I assume he was suspended because he used a fake vax card which is a felony. Fairly safe assumption but I don't definitively know.
But, as I stated up thread, I doubt the NFL considered the alleged felony in making their punishment. Doubt it would have been just 2 games if a fake vax card was a misdemeanor.
Anyway, back to fantasy impact; Brown is essentially useless, can’t return to ff playoff semifinals (maybe championship game). Got to cut him loose.
sho nuff
Footballguy
The league and team I think said they knew. Mainly because Rodgers lobbied for his alternative therapy to count as vaccinated status.
The fact that Rodgers didn’t fake a card and seems a fact the league knew he wasn’t vaccinated is why he (and Lazard) received the same fine (likely tied to the Halloween party). And the Packers wee fined due to not enforcing protocols around the facility.
sho nuff
Footballguy
One lied to the league and may have committed an actual crime. The other…lied and pissed off reporters. Not seeing the difference there seems strange to me.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Supposedly the NFL has treated him like an un-vaccinated player since the beginning of the season. I think that means he takes more covid tests, etc. As someone mentioned he lied to the media. I think you can make an argument that he deserved a 1 game suspension for breaking protocols (no mask at team event) but I will strongly argue against that only because he is my 2nd QB in a 2 QB league.
I know Rodgers said the league and team knew; I don’t think I saw anywhere where GB or the NFL corroborated that. And since Rodgers is clearly not above lying about this subject, I’m not inclined to take his word for it.
I did a quick google search and couldn’t find a single link leading to anyone from GB saying Rodgers was being treated/tested like a non-vaxxed player. Just Rodgers, or reporters repeating Rodgers making that claim.
Again, Rodgers is a proven liar on this subject, his word (that the NFL knew and he was getting treated like a non-vaxxed player) is worthless.
To me, the simplest explanation is that the guy who has lied repeatedly about this, is still lying.
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jobarules said:Lol he doesn't want to appeal to focus on his rehab
Yea that's load of poo poo by AB's mouthpiece. I mean AB's in this mess in part because he again stiffed someone on payment but he's perfectly ok just tossing a few hundred thousand out the window to focus on rehab? I defend him a lot but this whole thing was stupid on his part and what's worse is he actually apparently really did get vaccinated AFTER he submitted a fake vaccination card. Just a lot of dumb decision making on his part
This is what I am basing that on https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/aaron-rodgers-unvaccinated-covid-19-protocols-nfl/9hl8s7jekure18oqj5d53rqw7
I have read a few reports just like this so it appears the league knew he was not vaccinated.
There is only one line in there that says anything about the NFL’s knowledge of Rodgers’ status, and it is merely speculation: “the league appeared to know of Rodgers' unvaccinated status, considering he applied for — and was denied — an exemption from league COVID-19 protocols for unvaccinated players.” His application was in late spring/early summer. Once it was denied, it’s reasonable for the NFL to assume he got the jab, since he presented himself as someone who had.
Again, I’ve seen nothing from the NFL that they knew he was not vaccinated. Until I do, I will continue to believe that the proven liar is still lying.
I'm pretty invested in AB but at first felt that 3 games was just.
Now that I've found out more info it does in fact seem overly harsh. ESPN is reporting that he did come to camp with a fake vaccination card. But once he got filled in on what could happen to him he went ahead and got vaccinated in early August. So to me 3 games seems stiff but it's not like we can blame Roger on this one, this is was first ever NFL-NFLPA joint suspension.
Now that I've found out more info it does in fact seem overly harsh. ESPN is reporting that he did come to camp with a fake vaccination card. But once he got filled in on what could happen to him he went ahead and got vaccinated in early August. So to me 3 games seems stiff but it's not like we can blame Roger on this one, this is was first ever NFL-NFLPA joint suspension.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
He broke the protocols when meeting with media.yoman said:
They just treat QBs differently.
voiceofunreason
Footballguy
Just when you think FBGs can't get more off the rails, Jesus, go to the fking Rodgers thread.
That too and I agree. I knew he broke a few protocols but the only one I remember that was team oriented was the Halloween party. I think he deserves a 1 game suspension just for being a d-bag.
I don't want to defend Rodgers because I think he is a jerk but the article also says "His phrasing at the time seemed to suggest he was vaccinated against COVID-19, but his positive test and ensuing 10-day isolation period, revealed on Wednesday, indicates that was not the case. "
He would not have been given the 10-day isolation period if the league thought he was vaccinated.
That is a good point; while it’s possible they discovered this after the positive test, it is more likely that it’s evidence they knew beforehand.
GroveDiesel
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Maybe teams should stop listening to Tom Brady on this guy? How many more times is Brady going to go to bat for Brown? AB keeps making Tom look like a chump.
GreenNGold
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skinsrule05
Footballguy
You don’t think a guy who has been in as much trouble as AB has deserves a harsher punishment? The league was probably thinking suspension as soon as there was suspicion AB did something wrong.
FairWarning
Footballguy
He sure did. They are not touching him because he’s one of the faces of the league. Idc if he is or not, but the NFL and NFLPA have an agreement on this. I’m not sure 3 games is appropriate either. I bet there are a lot Of players with fake cards though.sho nuff said:
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Anarchy99
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I thought I read somewhere that 80-90% of players that got vaccinated received their shots at team facilities supervised by NFL league officials. There may be some guys in the smaller group that went elsewhere and handed in fake cards, but I would guess there can’t be that many guys in that category. The huge majority of the league didn’t even need to supply proof of anything or any paperwork.
I’ve already seen some people playing the race card when comparing AB to A-Rod with one getting 3 games and the other getting a small fine. But I believe the NFL and NFLPA collaborated to set the penalty for misrepresenting vaccination status to the league would result in a 3 game suspension.
People can choose to believe whether the league and Packers knew what was going on with Rodgers. But I have not seen anyone denying or refuting the reports that they knew of his status. In this day and age, I think there would have been people chiming in immediately to clear the air if that wasn’t true.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I don’t think anyone thinks otherwise, but his off the field baggage is great enough to outweigh what he can do on the field.
sho nuff
Footballguy
He did? We can do this in the Rodgers thread...but if you are going to make such an accusation...please back it up. Because not one reporter or the team or the league has said this. In fact, their actions seems to show the opposite (given the protocols once he tested positive).
Two people not named AB got the same suspension so regardless of what I think it would not appear his past was a factor.
GroveDiesel
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Dizzy
Footballguy
Why? IIRC AB was a studly WR in the 2021 stretch run and TBB won the Super Bowl. Brady was right.
To get a top shelf WR for cheap... any QB would "go to bat" for <insert diva WR here>... these guys want to win.
brun
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Grigs Allmoon
Footballguy
I thought when this story first broke I heard that using a fake vax card was a felony. Has anyone heard any more on that? If true, and that is what he did, it seems like a 3 game suspension might not be his only concern.
Dizzy
Footballguy
Agreed. There was something about misrepresenting the US Gov't seal... sounded like serious trouble.
Not surprising though... COVID has become divisive, politicized, information has been withheld or misrepresented, and the guidelines are foggy at best. The enforcement of violating these guidelines seem to be made up as we go along IMO.
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