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WR Brandon Aiyuk, SF (10 Viewers)

Hot Sauce Guy said:
https://twitter.com/49ersbbqlover/status/1437455853716742154?s=21
““Kyle Shanahan’s roster is a meritocracy. Draft pick, contract, none of that matters. It’s about what have you shown me lately. That sets a tone in the locker room.” @JL_Chapman”
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Why they sink significant draft capital into offensive skill positions (aside from QB) is truly mind-boggling if this is the case.

If Shanny is such a genius, why not just draft rounds 4 through 7 skill positions and make them fit your offense? What's funny is that Kittle is a 5th rounder, the RB's on the team have barely any draft capital / UDFA. Aiyuk has the most capital. 

This guy is a turd. 

 
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TampaMike19 said:
Why they sink significant draft capital into offensive skill positions (aside from QB) is truly mind-boggling if this is the case.

If Shanny is such a genius, why not just draft rounds 4 through 7 skill positions and make them fit your offense? What's funny is that Kittle is a 5th rounder, the RB's on the team have barely any draft capital / UDFA. Aiyuk has the most capital. 

This guy is a turd. 
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I don't think there's any evidence that says later round draft picks are smarter or work harder than early picks.  It's on the coach and GM to interview players and determine the ones who are the best fit for their system.  Don't forget that Deebo was essentially the exact same draft pick as Aiyuk, so they liked him at the time he was taken also. 

 
tangfoot said:
I don't think there's any evidence that says later round draft picks are smarter or work harder than early picks.  It's on the coach and GM to interview players and determine the ones who are the best fit for their system.  Don't forget that Deebo was essentially the exact same draft pick as Aiyuk, so they liked him at the time he was taken also. 
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tang, nowhere did that guy say this. He said something where you can't infer this from it.

 
Niners..the left coast version of the patriots. never ever take a player in either offense you'll be dizzy trying to figure out which guy to start each week. Damien Harris had a good game. what are the odds he does it again next week? 1-2%? The Niners are just as bad. I'd just rather let someone else deal with the headaches. I have Aiyuk, he'll be dropped this week. 

 
TwinTurbo said:
I think some of these writers just make stuff up all the time. Aiyuk proved he could be a pro last season during his rookie year. 
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Exactly. We saw him, everyone saw him. This is either an injury smokescreen or an attitude dog house. With either he’s a wait for. I’m not overreacting based on some beat writer who’s probably obsessed with surfing and Toad the Wet Sprocket. 

 
Anyone else having Dante Pettis flashbacks? Promising rookie season, all the sharks were in on him the following year, but it turned out he was in the doghouse (although we at least had some inkling of that fact beforehand) and he was basically never heard from again.

 
ignatiusjreilly said:
Anyone else having Dante Pettis flashbacks? Promising rookie season, all the sharks were in on him the following year, but it turned out he was in the doghouse (although we at least had some inkling of that fact beforehand) and he was basically never heard from again.
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For what it's worth -- and in my book, it's worth a lot -- the WR Oracle is telling me and everyone else to cool it with the Pettis comps:

I kindly ask you do not compare Brandon Aiyuk to Dante Pettis.

Pettis had a bad #ReceptionPerception college profile and an average at best rookie year

Ayiuk showed true star potential as a rookie and maybe just recovering

One of these things is much easier to move away from.
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ignatiusjreilly said:
For what it's worth -- and in my book, it's worth a lot -- the WR Oracle is telling me and everyone else to cool it with the Pettis comps:
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Matt Harmon brought Aiyuk up in every show he did this summer. Elite reception perception numbers, like 96th percentile. Worth noting that isn’t always prescriptive, it often takes a player another year or two before he breaks out with a league winning (top 24) season.  

 
BobbyLayne said:
Matt Harmon brought Aiyuk up in every show he did this summer. Elite reception perception numbers, like 96th percentile. Worth noting that isn’t always prescriptive, it often takes a player another year or two before he breaks out with a league winning (top 24) season.  
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Yes, I remember drafting Curtis Samuel two years ago on his recommendation. Still waiting on that one.

 
ignatiusjreilly said:
Yes, I remember drafting Curtis Samuel two years ago on his recommendation. Still waiting on that one.
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Samuel delivered in spades last year. I traded for him & rode him to the playoffs. 

He had his groin issue in the offseason & never got right. Fortunately I sold between his performing well & getting hurt. Lucky as heck, really. 

 
TwinTurbo said:
I think some of these writers just make stuff up all the time. Aiyuk proved he could be a pro last season during his rookie year. 
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To be fair, Matt Maiocco is an excellent writer and analyst. I have followed him for years and he is not one to make things up, as has been suggested above. 

I know Aiyuk was dogged by a hammy through camp. It may just be that his action was limited as they didn't want to push it. 

I would definitely exercise patience here. He should deliver on his draft value. 

 
travdogg said:
Melvin Gordon/Tyson Williams/Devin Singletary RBBC guy, and/or an upside WR, who produced in week 1, like a Reagor.
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TY ... Sensible...  I offered Chubb & Fuller for Javonte, Rhamondre, Aiyuk & 2022 2nd prior to week 1 and was told too expensive "future" value

I was trying to determine how much his value has slipped due to week 1 issues. 

Injury, Curfew, outplayed, Doghouse, all potential short term issues... 

 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
Samuel delivered in spades last year. I traded for him & rode him to the playoffs. 

He had his groin issue in the offseason & never got right. Fortunately I sold between his performing well & getting hurt. Lucky as heck, really. 
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Yeah he came on in the second half of last season. And I didn't mean my previous post as a shot at Harmon. I think he knows his stuff, and obviously no one is going to bat 1.000. I see it more as a caveat that, no matter what the analyst's approach, they can't account for everything. Samuel is a talented WR, but he had a series of popgun-armed QBs in Carolina who were unable to get him the ball deep. With Aiyuk, Harmon's model may incorporate his measurables and route running, but can't measure the effect of him being in Shanny's doghouse (assuming that's what happened).

 
A lot of overreactions after week 1, happens every year.  I heard owners of both Sermon and Aiyuk talk about dropping them.  I will probably snatch one of the two to have as flex backup if that's the case, just not sure which one Shanny will allow to produce. 

 
I love the talent, and would like to try to make a buy low move for him this week, but anyone else concerned with target share now that the team is healthy? He did seem to do most of his damage down the stretch with Kittle out. And Deebo wasn't the picture of healthy either. With those two back at 100% (for now) and Young Shanny's run focus, are there going to be the targets there this year to produce? The counter to this is of course Kittle and Deebo are an injury waiting to happen, so the target share issue should sort itself out on its own. What do you all think?

 
Johnny Utah #9 said:
I love the talent, and would like to try to make a buy low move for him this week, but anyone else concerned with target share now that the team is healthy? He did seem to do most of his damage down the stretch with Kittle out. And Deebo wasn't the picture of healthy either. With those two back at 100% (for now) and Young Shanny's run focus, are there going to be the targets there this year to produce? The counter to this is of course Kittle and Deebo are an injury waiting to happen, so the target share issue should sort itself out on its own. What do you all think?
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I was worried back in the preseason, before anyone got hurt, about the "too many mouths" factor in SF, especially if they eventually go to Lance. Rookie QBs historically don't support more than one relevant fantasy target.

It's pretty much a guarantee that at least one of the SF assets will end up underproducing. Which suggests the best bet is to either a) get as many assets as possible and hope they pan out or b) opt out of the agita and divest yourself completely.

 
Johnny Utah #9 said:
I love the talent, and would like to try to make a buy low move for him this week, but anyone else concerned with target share now that the team is healthy? He did seem to do most of his damage down the stretch with Kittle out. And Deebo wasn't the picture of healthy either. With those two back at 100% (for now) and Young Shanny's run focus, are there going to be the targets there this year to produce? The counter to this is of course Kittle and Deebo are an injury waiting to happen, so the target share issue should sort itself out on its own. What do you all think?
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As someone who's got Aiyuk on the roster these are good thoughts. I've got him on the bench this week and am in wait and see mode for the near future. Too early to tell at this point but I'm already pessimistic. 

 
Drake Hater said:
As someone who's got Aiyuk on the roster these are good thoughts. I've got him on the bench this week and am in wait and see mode for the near future. Too early to tell at this point but I'm already pessimistic. 
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As someone with him on your roster, has your value of him gone done significantly from last week? Without getting to “assistant coach forum” would your be looking to move him for another WR, possibly someone in the Tyler Boyd tier?

 
Maybe this lights a fire under his be hind. Never thought I'd be dropping him this early, but I dropped him for Marvin Jones, Jr. who seems better prepared to contribute than Aiyuk. 

 
Team Smokin' said:
Maybe this lights a fire under his be hind. Never thought I'd be dropping him this early, but I dropped him for Marvin Jones, Jr. who seems better prepared to contribute than Aiyuk. 
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Small bench league? Even so, I don't get this move at all. Aiyuk has a mile-high ceiling and MJJ is a floor play. 

 
Dropped in my big money redraft league as well.

Would have to drop Trey Lance or Hymes for him and am stacked at WR already but still may do it.

 
ATB said:
Small bench league? Even so, I don't get this move at all. Aiyuk has a mile-high ceiling and MJJ is a floor play. 
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FBG's have Jones, Jr. at WR #37 going forward averaging about 10 per game and they have Aiyuk at WR #58 averging around 8 points per game - that's a potential +33. Add the negative comments on his preseason, coach discipline, and others leap frogging him.

 
Between this and Sermon, Young Shanny has truly staked his claim to being the rightful Fantasy Troll King. 👑 
 

House Belichick has sat on the iron throne for a while now, but Young Shanny has truly embraced his father’s legacy and become fantasy’s ultimate villain. 

 
Johnny Utah #9 said:
Between this and Sermon, Young Shanny has truly staked his claim to being the rightful Fantasy Troll King. 👑 
 

House Belichick has sat on the iron throne for a while now, but Young Shanny has truly embraced his father’s legacy and become fantasy’s ultimate villain. 
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Amen.

Sincerely,

The guy that drafted Aiyuk, Sermon and Stevenson all on the same team.

 
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