WR Cedric Tillman, CLE (1 Viewer)

[JohnnyU]

Don't waste your time.Jeudy is the pivot. Proof

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Jeudy isn't free. And JJ isn't good at football. I'd be selling all my JJ shares to you and others the moment he pops off.

Tillman is a longshot, and the odds are against him. But he's got an opportunity to shine and is free. Free bets are the best types of bets. There's no downside and only upside.

Jeudy is a cry baby but feed him and hopefully he can find that old mojo. I kno he is a headcase.

Has Jeudy really had mojo? He seems to have done very little in his career so far compared to the hype he once had.

 

[The Gator]

Don't waste your time.Jeudy is the pivot. Proof

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Jeudy isn't free. And JJ isn't good at football. I'd be selling all my JJ shares to you and others the moment he pops off.

Tillman is a longshot, and the odds are against him. But he's got an opportunity to shine and is free. Free bets are the best types of bets. There's no downside and only upside.

Jeudy is a cry baby but feed him and hopefully he can find that old mojo. I kno he is a headcase.

When has he ever had mojo? He’s underperformed at every stop so far.

 

[cascaa]

Don't waste your time.Jeudy is the pivot. Proof

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Jeudy isn't free. And JJ isn't good at football. I'd be selling all my JJ shares to you and others the moment he pops off.

Tillman is a longshot, and the odds are against him. But he's got an opportunity to shine and is free. Free bets are the best types of bets. There's no downside and only upside.

Jeudy is a cry baby but feed him and hopefully he can find that old mojo. I kno he is a headcase.

When has he ever had mojo? He’s underperformed at every stop so far.

Rookie year

 

[JohnnyU]

Don't waste your time.Jeudy is the pivot. Proof

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Jeudy isn't free. And JJ isn't good at football. I'd be selling all my JJ shares to you and others the moment he pops off.

Tillman is a longshot, and the odds are against him. But he's got an opportunity to shine and is free. Free bets are the best types of bets. There's no downside and only upside.

Jeudy is a cry baby but feed him and hopefully he can find that old mojo. I kno he is a headcase.

When has he ever had mojo? He’s underperformed at every stop so far.

Rookie year

856 yards and 3 TDs isn't bad his rookie year, but given the hype he had coming into the league and lack of performance ever since, doesn't really qualify as ever having mojo. Neither does his 2022 with 972 yards and 6 TDs on 100 targets. You would think that in 4 seasons prior to this one that he would have at least one big year and he hasn't. At what point do we say if it looks and quacks like a duck, then by God it's a duck?

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Don't waste your time.Jeudy is the pivot. Proof

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Classic Judy owner.

Do the numbers tell a lie? Tillman will get his but thats a 2 to 1 ratio..

Dude was 5-11. It’s a pretty small sample lol

 

[beef]

Jeudy is junk. I'd give Tillman a try. He's got to be hungry for more action. Jeudy just continues to disappoint no matter what situation it is.

 

[JoeJoe88]

Don't waste your time.Jeudy is the pivot. Proof

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Jeudy isn't free. And JJ isn't good at football. I'd be selling all my JJ shares to you and others the moment he pops off.

Tillman is a longshot, and the odds are against him. But he's got an opportunity to shine and is free. Free bets are the best types of bets. There's no downside and only upside.

Jeudy is a cry baby but feed him and hopefully he can find that old mojo. I kno he is a headcase.

Has Jeudy really had mojo? He seems to have done very little in his career so far compared to the hype he once had.

I was about to say lol, when did Jeudy have mojo?

 

[Doubles]

Don't waste your time.Jeudy is the pivot. Proof

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Jeudy isn't free. And JJ isn't good at football. I'd be selling all my JJ shares to you and others the moment he pops off.

Tillman is a longshot, and the odds are against him. But he's got an opportunity to shine and is free. Free bets are the best types of bets. There's no downside and only upside.

The downside is who we’d be dropping for Tillman.

 

[cascaa]

Don't waste your time.Jeudy is the pivot. Proof

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Jeudy isn't free. And JJ isn't good at football. I'd be selling all my JJ shares to you and others the moment he pops off.

Tillman is a longshot, and the odds are against him. But he's got an opportunity to shine and is free. Free bets are the best types of bets. There's no downside and only upside.

Jeudy is a cry baby but feed him and hopefully he can find that old mojo. I kno he is a headcase.

Has Jeudy really had mojo? He seems to have done very little in his career so far compared to the hype he once had.

I was about to say lol, when did Jeudy have mojo?

50 for 800 handful of td as a rookie.. Marvin Harrison Jr would cream for that

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Don't waste your time.Jeudy is the pivot. Proof

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Jeudy isn't free. And JJ isn't good at football. I'd be selling all my JJ shares to you and others the moment he pops off.

Tillman is a longshot, and the odds are against him. But he's got an opportunity to shine and is free. Free bets are the best types of bets. There's no downside and only upside.

The downside is who we’d be dropping for Tillman.

I dropped Cousins for him

 

[The Gator]

Don't waste your time.Jeudy is the pivot. Proof

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Jeudy isn't free. And JJ isn't good at football. I'd be selling all my JJ shares to you and others the moment he pops off.

Tillman is a longshot, and the odds are against him. But he's got an opportunity to shine and is free. Free bets are the best types of bets. There's no downside and only upside.

The downside is who we’d be dropping for Tillman.

Bub Means…almost zero downside

 

[GoBirds]

Isn’t Elijah Moore better?

 

[Willie Mays Hayes]

Isn’t Elijah Moore better?

Based on what? Elijah Moore hasn’t done garbage.

 

[JoeJoe88]

Isn’t Elijah Moore better?

What’s he done?

 

[GoBirds]

Isn’t Elijah Moore better?

Based on what? Elijah Moore hasn’t done garbage.

Has Tillman? Never heard of him is he good.

 

[JohnnyU]

Isn’t Elijah Moore better?

Based on what? Elijah Moore hasn’t done garbage.

Oh I think he has done garbage, that's the problem.

 

[JoeJoe88]

Isn’t Elijah Moore better?

Based on what? Elijah Moore hasn’t done garbage.

Has Tillman? Never heard of him is he good.

We don’t know yet. But we have a large enough sample of Moore at this point to know that he isn’t.

 

[rockaction]

At what point do we say if it looks and quacks like a duck, then by God it's a duck?

And he has duck feet to boot! Guilty all around!

 

[JohnnyU]

At what point do we say if it looks and quacks like a duck, then by God it's a duck?

And he has duck feet to boot! Guilty all around!

 

[zamboni]

Isn’t Elijah Moore better?

Based on what? Elijah Moore hasn’t done garbage.

Has Tillman? Never heard of him is he good.

We don’t know yet. But we have a large enough sample of Moore at this point to know that he isn’t.

I think Tillman's situation is not too dissimilar from that of McMillan's. Young WR with some talent and perhaps a big opportunity with a shifting offensive ecosystem, surrounded by more experienced veterans who are underperformers. Whether they can earn sufficient targets is anyone's guess, but worth finding out (for a reasonable price) whether they can.

 

[GoBirds]

Y’all like him more than say Bateman?

 

[barackdhouse]

Isn’t Elijah Moore better?

Based on what? Elijah Moore hasn’t done garbage.

Oh I think he has done garbage, that's the problem.

exactly. tillman hasn't busted yet.

 

[barackdhouse]

Y’all like him more than say Bateman?

I personally do from the standpoint that I think he *can* dominate WR targets in Cleveland (with Njoku the other target hog) whereas Bateman is going to be more boom/bust within that Ravens offense.

Other factor IMO is that Winston is better than people think and will sling it and in general I would expect a higher number of gross targets going around for the whole offense.

 

[Stat Correction]

The true question is: Who is the Browns current deep threat WR.....Juedy, Moore, or Tillman?

One thing we know for sure is that Winston will sling it way downfield a few times per game.

 

[barackdhouse]

The true question is: Who is the Browns current deep threat WR.....Juedy, Moore, or Tillman?

One thing we know for sure is that Winston will sling it way downfield a few times per game.

I'm guessing that since Tillman is 6'3" he will get some 50/50 balls from Winston regardless of whether he is open. That's good for fantasy. Your question stands though but if it turns out that Moore or Jeudy are used in that deep threat role more than Tillman I don't think that precludes Tillman from getting his deep shots, too, because Jameis likes to sling. But it also means Tillman will be the target hog on intermediate underneath routes, along with Njoku.

Personally I think Tillman is about to emerge as the true number 1 there and with Jameis and Chubb they could actually be better than with Watson/Amari.

 

[Saint]

I think everyone is interested to see how these targets pan out. IMO, Tillman was a free pick up to see what happens.

 

[FairWarning]

Y’all like him more than say Bateman?

Yes because the Balt WRs never seem to get enough. I picked him up for JJSS, I’ll let someone else deal with the hammy.

 

[Bri]

Don't waste your time.Jeudy is the pivot. Proof

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It's not either or. They can all get targets.

Jeudy still has the rookie problem of not liking any kind of contact so it throws him off his route. Whoever the QB is- he does not have time to watch him play patty-cake at the line of scrimmage with a pressing corner.

Any WR is better than Jeudy on any given play that he is messing around with a CB rather than running his route. A QB can not wait for that and he can not predict where Jeudy will be. They throw in less than 3 seconds.

Tillman is a well drilled well schooled WR. He's well cut with clear muscle definition yet he's always gasping for air and drinking on the sideline so you know he's giving it his all. He's growing into being one of the better blockers in the league.

Elijah didn't care what anyone did or said and that both probably got him almost out of the league and got him thru tough times when DBs are messing with him. He's older now.

Elijah has got some elite traits but he's not the full package athlete that Jeudy is. Tillman has some athleticism but not near as elite as Jeudy.

The draft and predraft talk is long over. Get open quick, with regularity and predictability. That's it now. Jeudy hasn't matured to realize this just yet and yes I'm sure the Browns would love it if he did and take advantage of it when he does. Old me running a route is a better option than Jeudy looking like he's a 7th grader working out a new handshake with his bros so there's a huge grain of salt with Jeudy.

 

[Bri]

More proof

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Yeah-but he dropped two of them. Not exactly the best way to instill confidence in your coaches to get you the ball or your new quarterback moving forward.

It's a fine percentage for a nervous first start.
NFL defenses will adjust and that has to be factored in here too.

Winston was a home run hitter most at bats and we gotta see him methodically move the ball down the field if they're to win.

For FF I'd be fine if Winston throws for 400 yards with 4 INTs but I'm sure the Browns want a more mature QB play out of him.

I doubt Tillman sees that many targets again. My thought is simply that he earned not being an afterthought thrown into a game late. What will be his norm? 5-6 targets?

He's not elite and no defense is letting him get 13 targets like he's Justin Jefferson. What's his norm gonna be?

 

[Ilov80s]

I am irrationally confident in Tillman for some reason

 

[The Frankman]

Rotoworld's Kyle Dvorchak - 32 Fantasy Stats for Week 8: Brock Bowers chasing history

Cedric Tillman led the Browns’ receivers in targets (12) and air yards (120)

Sans Amari Cooper, Jerry Jeudy was nowhere to be found. He was targeted five times and caught one pass for 18 yards. Elijah Moore also out-targeted Jeudy with seven looks, six of which he caught for a total of 41 yards. This is a messy situation, but Tillman looks like the top option—aside from David Njoku—for the Cooper-less Browns.

PFF's Nathan Jahnke - NFL Week 7 Recap: Immediate fantasy football takeaways from Sunday's games

Browns adjust without Amari Cooper: Cooper was traded to the Buffalo Bills this past week, allowing other wide receivers to move up the depth chart.

Over the first six weeks, Cooper, Jerry Jeudy and Elijah Moore were the primary receivers in 11 personnel while Cedric Tillman was their primary backup. All four would rotate in 12 personnel, while Tillman played the most snaps of the group for his run blocking.

In this game, Tillman simply became a clear starter in 11 personnel, while both Jaelon Darden and Jamari Thrash played more snaps than usual as the backups. In 12 personnel, the team stuck with Jeudy and Tillman throughout the game. Tillman was also the top target earner.

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YouTube's Curtain Call Replays - Cedric Tillman Week 7 Replay: Every Target and Catch vs Cincinnati Bengals (after 1:08 Jameis Winston is the QB)

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In short, Cedric Tillman stepped into Amari Cooper's old role and with his 6'3 - 215 lb. frame is built to play outside... he's already somewhat of a Red Zone option and definitely is a guy who could be the #2 option in a Jameis Winston/Ken Dorsey (why is no one talking about that) led offense.

 

[jbird]

I heard on a podcast this week that Cleveland does not let their #2 QB get practice reps with the starters during practice so for the past 7 weeks Winston has been playing catch with Tillman and not Jeudy nor Moore. That leads me to believe that Tillman could jump into Cooper's role and really thrive with Watson out. Looking forward to the Ravens game for confirmation.

 

[JohnnyU]

I heard on a podcast this week that Cleveland does not let their #2 QB get practice reps with the starters during practice so for the past 7 weeks Winston has been playing catch with Tillman and not Jeudy nor Moore. That leads me to believe that Tillman could jump into Cooper's role and really thrive with Watson out. Looking forward to the Ravens game for confirmation.

While that sounds nice and all, I'm not sure how much stock I put into just because you're playing catch with someone over someone else really matters that much. Obviously Tillman is ticking up, but how much really? I personally don't see how you can play him without already having devastating injuries to your WR room and this not being a bye week. Yes, he's a hold in dynasty.....for now....

 

[jbird]

I heard on a podcast this week that Cleveland does not let their #2 QB get practice reps with the starters during practice so for the past 7 weeks Winston has been playing catch with Tillman and not Jeudy nor Moore. That leads me to believe that Tillman could jump into Cooper's role and really thrive with Watson out. Looking forward to the Ravens game for confirmation.

While that sounds nice and all, I'm not sure how much stock I put into just because you're playing catch with someone over someone else really matters that much. Obviously Tillman is ticking up, but how much really? I personally don't see how you can play him without already having devastating injuries to your WR room and this not being a bye week. Yes, he's a hold in dynasty.....for now....

I've seen plenty of times when a #2 QB comes in and he's throwing to the guy he's familiar throwing to. Winston has 7 weeks more chemistry with Tillman than Jeudy and Moore. Will it mean much on the field when they are all out there? I don't know the answer but am anxious to find out.

 

[pack66]

For the last 4 minutes of last week's game, Winston looked to Jeudy first and more often than Tillman. I ended up dropping Tillman after picking him up for Pop Douglas.

 

[Ilov80s]

Absolutely balling out

 

[dipandglide]

Lets gooooooooooooooooo

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Added but sat him today. What a day for him

 

[OU#1]

Flexed Chubb over him. May have to rethink that now …

 

[massraider]

Tillman is still an unknown, but Jeudy has had a lot of chances, and ain't done anything. He looks like a roster clogger.

Maybe Tillman is nothing special but he's still young, and has all the physical traits.

 

[Tha Guru]

Josh Gordon Jr amirite?!?

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Josh Gordon Jr amirite?!?

 

[Uncle Leo]

Thank God Watson is not playing QB anymore.

 

[dipandglide]

Tillman is still an unknown, but Jeudy has had a lot of chances, and ain't done anything. He looks like a roster clogger.

Maybe Tillman is nothing special but he's still young, and has all the physical traits.

I was telling @JohnnyU this when he said not to waste your time picking up Tillman. The unknown is better than most of the known when you're looking at your waiver wire

It's a long shot, but Tillman has upside physical traits and decent draft capital. Let's see what happens for the rest of the season; maybe we owners will get lucky and have a free WR3/flex moving forward (maybe more)

 

[Shawnky]

He’s better than Jeudy and Moore. Not an every week start yet but that could change soon.

 

[Uncle Leo]

He’s better than Jeudy and Moore. Not an every week start yet but that could change soon.

There were UT fans that stated that this kid was the better player compared to UT’s Hyatt. I was so happy to that Giants took Hyatt last year. I was so wrong. I fell in Love with the one big game against Bama where Hyatt scored 5 TDs. CT looked like the real deal today.

 

[barackdhouse]

Started him in a *lot* of spots today.

 

[Dickies]

I put him in when I saw Higgins was out. Worked out nicely.

 

[barackdhouse]

Started him over the following players in the following spots, all TEP :

dyn WR3 - only because DK is out
dyn WR2 - over Nuk and Deebo (who I might still play in the flex but wanted the option between him and Kittle so I also put in Otton at TE1 hehe)
dyn FLEX - over Flowers/Doubs/Ferguson/Otton (I was torn and went with Pitts at TE1 simply because I have Cousins)

FPC - WR2 - over McConkey and Puka
FPC - FLEX - over T Bigsby, J Reed, Pitts
FPC - FLEX - over Chase Brown, Tracy, Doubs, Puka, Pitts, Ferguson
FPC - FLEX - over Chase Brown, Tracy, Doubs, E Moore (but also only because Metcalf is out)
FPC - FLEX - over Puka, Kincaid, Flowers

I also benched him in a couple spots in favor of :

FPC - WR/FLEX : AJ Brown / BThomas Jr / K Hunt / R White
FPC - WR/FLEX : BThomas Jr / Waddle / K Hunt / McBride (Njoku was my TE1) **Waddle was the one I almost benched for him**

 

[Faust]

Matt Hicks

Our patience has paid off fellow Cedric Tillman truthers

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