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WR Christian Watson, GB (1 Viewer)

I have Love and was scrolling through his game stats from last season.

Dude can support multiple receivers in a given week.

He can. The question is how gimpy is Love and how are they going to run their receiver rotation?

If he's gimpy, hands off all the time, and doesn't take five- and seven-step drops, then you've got to think a deep threat like Watson doesn't match up well with that.

Of course, they could run jet sweeps with him (they do that) and maybe he breaks one, but I wouldn't hang my hat on deep balls if Love can't move in the pocket very well.

I think Willis goes here, but the coaches seem to be allowing Love to make his decision late, so who knows?
 
I don’t think they will shove a gimpy Love out there. If he starts I would think he is near full capacity to run the offense effectively.

That's a good point, but I've noticed disconnect in the press between Love and coachspeak. Sounds like there's just a hint of pressure to go out there. It could just be me reading into things and being ridiculous, but you haven't heard the categorical stuff that usually goes along with situations like this and the tempering of expectations is coming more from Love than the staff in the blurbs I've read. Perhaps I haven't read enough. Perhaps this is how they manage the rabid fans and beat writers of Green Bay who seriously have one job year-round—to follow the Pack, but we'll see.

I tend to agree with you more than my reading of it.
 
Does anyone dare start this guy if Love is active @ the Titans?
Absolutely! You'd have to have a stacked team or be playing in a shallow league/start8 not to have him in your lineup

Really? he's caught 3 passes through 2 games and his QB is not 100%. 14 team+ I could see he'd be a starter but 12 team or less, he's an easy bench. He's actually a FA in one of my 10 teamers, seems to just be too reliant on big plays. Early days though.
 
Does anyone dare start this guy if Love is active @ the Titans?
Absolutely! You'd have to have a stacked team or be playing in a shallow league/start8 not to have him in your lineup

Really? he's caught 3 passes through 2 games and his QB is not 100%. 14 team+ I could see he'd be a starter but 12 team or less, he's an easy bench. He's actually a FA in one of my 10 teamers, seems to just be too reliant on big plays. Early days though.
One man’s trash is another man’s treasure.
 
I have Love and was scrolling through his game stats from last season.

Dude can support multiple receivers in a given week.

He can. The question is how gimpy is Love and how are they going to run their receiver rotation?

If he's gimpy, hands off all the time, and doesn't take five- and seven-step drops, then you've got to think a deep threat like Watson doesn't match up well with that.

Of course, they could run jet sweeps with him (they do that) and maybe he breaks one, but I wouldn't hang my hat on deep balls if Love can't move in the pocket very well.

I think Willis goes here, but the coaches seem to be allowing Love to make his decision late, so who knows?

I most likely wont be playing Love his 1st week back.
 
I have Love and was scrolling through his game stats from last season.

Dude can support multiple receivers in a given week.

He can. The question is how gimpy is Love and how are they going to run their receiver rotation?

If he's gimpy, hands off all the time, and doesn't take five- and seven-step drops, then you've got to think a deep threat like Watson doesn't match up well with that.

Of course, they could run jet sweeps with him (they do that) and maybe he breaks one, but I wouldn't hang my hat on deep balls if Love can't move in the pocket very well.

I think Willis goes here, but the coaches seem to be allowing Love to make his decision late, so who knows?

I most likely wont be playing Love his 1st week back.

Cool. I can't counsel about that and you need to make your own judgment. I say go with your inclination and the rationally right thing and you'll at least feel better about it if he hangs a 30-burger on the opposition. Unless your backup isn't very good. Then the right thing is to go with Love.

Heh. I'm some help, huh? Not that you asked for it; I'm just looking to make conversation since you replied.

Somebody named GreenNGold (Hmm . . . wonder who he roots for) said in another thread that you can expect Love to hand off and run quick drops this week if he plays, so I'm not the only one saying that. Countering that you have King of the Jungle saying if he's out there, he's a full go because the coaches wouldn't let him if he wasn't.

Just things to consider. I'd go with your own inclination.
 
Does anyone dare start this guy if Love is active @ the Titans?
Absolutely! You'd have to have a stacked team or be playing in a shallow league/start8 not to have him in your lineup

Really? he's caught 3 passes through 2 games and his QB is not 100%. 14 team+ I could see he'd be a starter but 12 team or less, he's an easy bench. He's actually a FA in one of my 10 teamers, seems to just be too reliant on big plays. Early days though.
Watson was close to a massive game if a few redzone targets went his way. I'm not going to count W2 against him.
 
Does anyone dare start this guy if Love is active @ the Titans?
Absolutely! You'd have to have a stacked team or be playing in a shallow league/start8 not to have him in your lineup

Really? he's caught 3 passes through 2 games and his QB is not 100%. 14 team+ I could see he'd be a starter but 12 team or less, he's an easy bench. He's actually a FA in one of my 10 teamers, seems to just be too reliant on big plays. Early days though.
One man’s trash is another man’s treasure.
I'll take teams WR1's if they're in the trashbin. You could do A LOT worse
 
I don’t think they will shove a gimpy Love out there. If he starts I would think he is near full capacity to run the offense effectively.

That's a good point, but I've noticed disconnect in the press between Love and coachspeak. Sounds like there's just a hint of pressure to go out there. It could just be me reading into things and being ridiculous, but you haven't heard the categorical stuff that usually goes along with situations like this and the tempering of expectations is coming more from Love than the staff in the blurbs I've read. Perhaps I haven't read enough. Perhaps this is how they manage the rabid fans and beat writers of Green Bay who seriously have one job year-round—to follow the Pack, but we'll see.

I tend to agree with you more than my reading of it.
Hard to tell to be honest. I think I try to use logic too much and transform the question at hand to what I would do. It is a long season and I would not risk further injury to my franchise QB unless he was close to a 100% and not limiting the offense. However, I am just a spectator and who knows what they are thinking on their side of the fence.
 
I'll take teams WR1's if they're in the trashbin. You could do A LOT worse

True. But he was third in snaps in the first game. I did not check the second one. Hold on, I'll look it up thanks to my trusty dusty FBG SUBSCRIPTION (get one).

Doubs 55, Watson 41, Reed 39, Wicks 36, Melton 16

Sounds like Doubs is their WR1.
 
Does anyone dare start this guy if Love is active @ the Titans?
Absolutely! You'd have to have a stacked team or be playing in a shallow league/start8 not to have him in your lineup

Really? he's caught 3 passes through 2 games and his QB is not 100%. 14 team+ I could see he'd be a starter but 12 team or less, he's an easy bench. He's actually a FA in one of my 10 teamers, seems to just be too reliant on big plays. Early days though.
One man’s trash is another man’s treasure.
I'll take teams WR1's if they're in the trashbin. You could do A LOT worse
….,but is he? I’m not seeing it.
 
Hard to tell to be honest. I think I try to use logic too much and transform the question at hand to what I would do.

However, I am just a spectator and who knows what they are thinking on their side of the fence.

There's a hell of a lot of fantasy football in these two sentences. That divide, given by the quote boxes, is sometimes right on top of each other and perfectly aligned, or the chasm is gaping and we have no idea exactly what the heck these guys are doing. (See Arthur Smith.) And for all the scorn the armchair guys take, sometimes guys get fired because they're just wrong and we're right. (See Arthur Smith.)

It's crazy sometimes. I try and judge the crazy coming from the players and organizations. It's why I hate the Ja'Marr Chase situation that I think only gets worse. They're both obviously looking out for their own interests and each is placing that interest above winning, and that's a cocktail for disaster. So I try and do what you do, King of the Jungle, which is to use logic to transform the question at hand to what I would do and then use that against my knowledge of coachspeak and player interviews, but the divide between what we think we know and what we know is vast so we go with what we got. Like in Mike Brown's case, it would be hard for me to think that Brown isn't feeling pressure from other owners to refuse Chase's demands. Chase is two years away from his next deal. In his case there is the possibility of a whacked slippery slope whereby deals are essentially not worth the paper they're printed on from the player's side, which would put them at about equal with the owners (except the owners are stuck with guaranteed money, which the players will see none of if this happens). That would be trouble in football. There would be a work stoppage at some point. But the sides are dug into concrete interests that now seem intractable. So here and in thinking of that, I'll leave you with this . . .

there are known knowns
there are things we know we know
We also know there are known unknowns
that is to say we know there are some things we do not know.
But there are also unknown unknowns
the ones we don't know we don't know

Donald Rumsfeld, 2002 February 12

(Taken from Pieces of Intelligence: The Existential Poetry of Donald H. Rumsfeld, Seely, Hart, Free Press (2009))

Hang this post in the ****ing Louvre, by the way.

eta* I'm really hyped on the Louvre today. Got that Lorde song running through my head now.
 
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I'll take teams WR1's if they're in the trashbin. You could do A LOT worse

True. But he was third in snaps in the first game. I did not check the second one. Hold on, I'll look it up thanks to my trusty dusty FBG SUBSCRIPTION (get one).

Doubs 55, Watson 41, Reed 39, Wicks 36, Melton 16

Sounds like Doubs is their WR1.
Nice sample size! CW was the WR1 when he was healthy last year over a bigger sample.

The jury is still out, but I view Watson as the alpha.

Edit—@rockaction, the numbers were close when Watson was healthy. I believe Watson and Reed were tied for the most fantasy points, but Doubs had a higher snap percentage. It's a maddening WR platoon. I have my biases, just like everyone. It'd be nice if there were some separation this year.
 
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I'll take teams WR1's if they're in the trashbin. You could do A LOT worse

True. But he was third in snaps in the first game. I did not check the second one. Hold on, I'll look it up thanks to my trusty dusty FBG SUBSCRIPTION (get one).

Doubs 55, Watson 41, Reed 39, Wicks 36, Melton 16

Sounds like Doubs is their WR1.
Nice sample size! CW was the WR1 when he was healthy last year over a bigger sample.

The jury is still out, but I view Watson as the alpha.
Watson is a role player, run go routes to distract from the real WRs
 
I'll take teams WR1's if they're in the trashbin. You could do A LOT worse

True. But he was third in snaps in the first game. I did not check the second one. Hold on, I'll look it up thanks to my trusty dusty FBG SUBSCRIPTION (get one).

Doubs 55, Watson 41, Reed 39, Wicks 36, Melton 16

Sounds like Doubs is their WR1.
Nice sample size! CW was the WR1 when he was healthy last year over a bigger sample.

The jury is still out, but I view Watson as the alpha.

Fair enough. You can make an argument for it.

But are you sure about that claim you're making? I can look it up. Snap counts only, though. No gray areas like "Well, they designed the offense around him, so . . . "

I'm not going to waste precious internet time and the difficulties of simple aggregate addition if we're going to do that as soon as the dust settles.
 
I'll take teams WR1's if they're in the trashbin. You could do A LOT worse

True. But he was third in snaps in the first game. I did not check the second one. Hold on, I'll look it up thanks to my trusty dusty FBG SUBSCRIPTION (get one).

Doubs 55, Watson 41, Reed 39, Wicks 36, Melton 16

Sounds like Doubs is their WR1.
Nice sample size! CW was the WR1 when he was healthy last year over a bigger sample.

The jury is still out, but I view Watson as the alpha.

Fair enough. You can make an argument for it.

But are you sure about that claim you're making? I can look it up. Snap counts only, though. No gray areas like "Well, they designed the offense around him, so . . . "

I'm not going to waste precious internet time and the difficulties of simple aggregate addition if we're going to do that as soon as the dust settles.
I edited my post. The snap count was close across the board. Back to wasting our internet time elsewhere!
 
He’s a high variance outcomes receiver.

Low floor, high ceiling. Deep threat. I don’t think of him as a possession receiver.

IMO Watson profiles similar to Shaheed in regards to potential outcomes.
 
I see Christian Watson as a great “Buy Low” right now. After his slow start / low performance in 2 weeks, as a JLove owner, I am targeting him.
His value has dropped ~15% on charts so when JLove gets back to 100%, his ceiling should be more realistic
 
Definitely a positive that he looks healthy out there. He still in a large target share but I imagine things become more consistent once Love is back to health. He has made some nice contested catches down the field and is a threat to get a touchdown every week. He won’t carry your team but he should have some big games ahead.
 
Definitely a positive that he looks healthy out there. He still in a large target share but I imagine things become more consistent once Love is back to health. He has made some nice contested catches down the field and is a threat to get a touchdown every week. He won’t carry your team but he should have some big games ahead.

Watson is high variance IMO.

Will have some huge games and some stinkers. The problem is GB has 4 usable WRs and we all know Watson isn’t the possession guy.

Can he break out? Yes. You just never know when to start him. He’s due.
 
Sigh. I liked what I saw in G1 and then Love goes down. Now Watson is hurt again. He's one of the more frustrating players to own.
yeah, for as much talent as he has, he's as brittle as a pane of glass. I don't think he last long in this league.
That injury today wasn’t on him. That was on his QB for leading him into a buzz saw.
 
Sigh. I liked what I saw in G1 and then Love goes down. Now Watson is hurt again. He's one of the more frustrating players to own.
yeah, for as much talent as he has, he's as brittle as a pane of glass. I don't think he last long in this league.
Had nothing to do with him being brittle. His past injuries have been hamstring related. Which he hopefully addressed this off season. There are very few (if any) WRs that would have come out of that w/o injury.
 
Sigh. I liked what I saw in G1 and then Love goes down. Now Watson is hurt again. He's one of the more frustrating players to own.
yeah, for as much talent as he has, he's as brittle as a pane of glass. I don't think he last long in this league.
Had nothing to do with him being brittle. His past injuries have been hamstring related. Which he hopefully addressed this off season. There are very few (if any) WRs that would have come out of that w/o injury.
I think he consistently puts himself in harms way. Some people are prone to taking big hits, and he is clearly one of them.
 
He is one of those guys that make me hate dynasty...filling up my roster but an empty waste of space
It can be frustrating. Then you give up on a guy to finally watch them get healthy and perform well.

It will be on another team for watson...I'm not sure he isn't already the 4th or 5th best wr on that team
I don’t think he will ever be a volume type receiver, but he is useful as a down field threat and red zone which makes him FF viable. Obviously the injuries are not helping his progress.
 
Jordan Schultz
Sources: #Packers WR Christian Watson has a high-ankle sprain, but I'm told it's a mild one, and he is "unlikely" to land on IR.

That is really good news for both the Packers and Watson, especially considering how serious the injury initially appeared.
 

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