efactor
Footballguy
Oh please. Diggs and Buffalo may have some issues, but Diggs not even close to being batshiot crazy
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WR Cooper Kupp, SEA (1 Viewer)
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msudaisy26
Footballguy
It might be an exaggerated, but it is still a concern.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Already extremely unlikely that hill is suspended. The tua concern is legit.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Yeah, I don’t think Aaron Rodgers is what he once was, but he’s definitely better than anything the Jets had
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
He had clean-up on both knees in 2021.
He played in 17 games last year. I’m not sure that’s “has knee issues”.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
That’s just not a good comp - AB is looney tunes.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Other than Tebow to Peyton, I don’t recall a greater improvement for WRs than that dreck last year to Rodgers. Even Winston to Brady wasn’t as big an improvement for the WRs.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
You guys are focused on nit picking my comparisons and there is no perfect comparison.
It was just the fact that all these receivers have issues after Jefferson. To only point out the flaws with Kupp and act like the are some how worse then any of these other first round receivers is flawed.
It was just the fact that all these receivers have issues after Jefferson. To only point out the flaws with Kupp and act like the are some how worse then any of these other first round receivers is flawed.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I’m on pace to eat 8,760 this year.
Should have been MVP in 2021. Season and Playoff stretch was amazing
2021 Stats
Regular Season (Best WR Performance Ever)
145 rec 1947 yds 16 tds
Post Season (Between Kupp & Fitzgerald for Best Ever)
33 rec 478 yds 6 tds
Total Combined
178 receptions 2425 yds receiving 22 tds (Best WR Season/Post-Season Ever)
Those are absolutely insane numbers ... not sure how Aaron Rodgers won MVP that year. Honestly I am tired of the QB winning every year. Kupp had some clutch plays in the playoffs too where he literaly carried the Rams on his back at WR
Kupp was on a mission in the playoffs to show how foolish voters were.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
He's never gonna repeat 2021, but if the Rams are as bad as some think they will be, Kupp could eat big time in the second halves of games the Rams will be trailing, and we've already seen how awesome he can be when the Rams are good and he is the main driving force in the passing game.
Even if he doesn’t repeat 21 if he just keeps his pace in ‘22 we’ll all be very happy
Snoopy
Footballguy
Apparent leg injury in practice today, extent unknown
news.yahoo.com
Rams WR Cooper Kupp leaves practice early with an injury
Rams receiver Cooper Kupp left Los Angeles' practice early with an apparent leg injury Tuesday night, and coach Sean McVay is uncertain about the injury's severity. The former Super Bowl MVP walked off the field with the training staff about 30 minutes into the two-hour workout at UC Irvine...
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
that sounds ungood.
smbkrypt24
Footballguy
Let what heal up?
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Hamstring
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Tyreek? Taysom? Why is this in the Kupp thread?
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I was sort of in but this is enough for me to just walk away
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
a preseason hamstring pull changed your mind? I'd expect this will happen often to many players.
I know you blocked me, but for the others, yes. Ilov80s stated he was sort of in. An injury like this can absolutely change ones mind.
He is getting up there in age. Stafford as well. Not a lot of talent to draw attention way from him either. Combine that with a bad team that may be out of it early I think there is quite the risk with Kupp this year.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Older players heal more slowly from soft tissue injuries.
Not saying Kupp will take longer. I’m just saying he’s not young.
I mentioned up-thread that he’s been prone to soft-tissue injuries in the past, prior to his break-out season.
Hopefully he bounces back from this ok and it isn’t something that lingers. The NFL is more fun with him in it.
I’m out as a top 5 pick as well though. If he falls to the back of the 1st it’ll be a tough decision but I’ll probably bite the bullet.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Only because of his age for me. And his history. I won’t do it for every player who hurts a hammy in the preseason.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Older people generally, but not 30 year olds.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
30 is kind of my benchmark number for the NFL. Mostly it’s from my own experiences with players over 30.
YMMV
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
You can have that opinion/philosophy, but don't say it as fact.
Do you really think a 30 year old's hamstring heals slower than a 26 year old's - that's not science based.
Science says "in elderly patients" healing is slower. 30 is relatively old for an NFL player, it's not "elderly" though.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
At what his price is likely to be, I think so. I really hate those soft muscle injuries, they seem to linger and nag. Plus coming off rehab for an ankle injury too, just gives me enough pause. It's not like I don't like Kupp but where he is going, there will be other very attractive players without a soft tissue injury.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
True but these aren't normal people. The 4 years of age actually means less to me than the 4 additional years of wear and tear on the body. 4 years of pro football is serious lower body stress.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
well we are six weeks away from the season and hamstring injuries are very common during the offseason, but get your overall point. You can only take one player in Round 1, afterall.
kutta
Footballguy
I know he had a slight groin pull maybe 6 years ago. I thought all his other injuries were knee/ankle things. What’s his history with soft tissue injuries?
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
we are specially talking about a soft tissue injury. Obviously "wear and tear" is worse with age by definition.
I'd love to see one link saying a player recovers more slowly at age 30, than at age 25.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Was just going to respond with that. Saved me the typing.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I don’t have a link for it, but I have decades of managing fantasy teams of experience of it.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
As I said above… It doesn’t necessarily mean that Cooper Kupp will take longer to recover. It’s definitely a case by case basis. You are correct. @Dr. Octopus that I am merely opining based on experience.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Knees and ankles have tendons. I believe he had a calf injury a few years ago as well. To me, if it’s a joint or muscle issue, it’s a soft tissue injury.
Maybe I’ve been using that term incorrectly for years?
kutta
Footballguy
Well maybe I have been?Knees and ankles have tendons. I believe he had a calf injury a few years ago as well. To me, if it’s a joint or muscle issue, it’s a soft tissue injury.
Maybe I’ve been using that term incorrectly for years?
I believe tendons and ligaments are technically classified as “soft tissue,” but I’ve always thought of soft tissue in the context of athletes as muscle pulls and strains - things that are likely to reoccur.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Well, I think the clear answer here is that one of us needs to enroll in sports medicine school.Well maybe I have been?Knees and ankles have tendons. I believe he had a calf injury a few years ago as well. To me, if it’s a joint or muscle issue, it’s a soft tissue injury.
Maybe I’ve been using that term incorrectly for years?
I believe tendons and ligaments are technically classified as “soft tissue,” but I’ve always thought of soft tissue in the context of athletes as muscle pulls and strains - things that are likely to reoccur.
MTskibum
Footballguy
Well, I think the clear answer here is that one of us needs to enroll in sports medicine school.Well maybe I have been?Knees and ankles have tendons. I believe he had a calf injury a few years ago as well. To me, if it’s a joint or muscle issue, it’s a soft tissue injury.
Maybe I’ve been using that term incorrectly for years?
I believe tendons and ligaments are technically classified as “soft tissue,” but I’ve always thought of soft tissue in the context of athletes as muscle pulls and strains - things that are likely to reoccur.
According to the American Academy of Orthopedic surgeons injuries to joint tendons and ligaments are soft tissue injuries.
However, I agree with Kutta. In the context of sports announcers/analysts I have only ever heard of muscle injuries called soft tissue injuries.
Sprains, Strains & Other Soft-Tissue Injuries - OrthoInfo - AAOS
Muscles, tendons, and ligaments are the soft tissues in the body that are most commonly injured. Injuries to these soft tissues often occur during sports and exercise activities, but can also result from simple everyday activities.
orthoinfo.aaos.org
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
You just saved me ~$250,000 in tuition. Thank you.Well, I think the clear answer here is that one of us needs to enroll in sports medicine school.Well maybe I have been?Knees and ankles have tendons. I believe he had a calf injury a few years ago as well. To me, if it’s a joint or muscle issue, it’s a soft tissue injury.
Maybe I’ve been using that term incorrectly for years?
I believe tendons and ligaments are technically classified as “soft tissue,” but I’ve always thought of soft tissue in the context of athletes as muscle pulls and strains - things that are likely to reoccur.
According to the American Academy of Orthopedic surgeons injuries to joint tendons and ligaments are soft tissue injuries.
However, I agree with Kutta. In the context of sports announcers/analysts I have only ever heard of muscle injuries called soft tissue injuries.
Sprains, Strains & Other Soft-Tissue Injuries - OrthoInfo - AAOS
Muscles, tendons, and ligaments are the soft tissues in the body that are most commonly injured. Injuries to these soft tissues often occur during sports and exercise activities, but can also result from simple everyday activities.
