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WR DeAndre Hopkins, BAL (2 Viewers)

Full disclosure. DeAndre Hopkins is one of my favorite football players and I am an Arizona Cardinals fan. I ended up with DeAndre Hopkins on all of my fantasy teams this year. I think he can be a league winner this year. There are teams I drafted with competitive lineups that become MURDER lineups when DeAndre Hopkins rolls in Week 7.

We're talking teams where DeAndre is your 7th - 9th best player and he's coming in off the slot scoring 16 - 22 points for you. A few of these teams are a little bit thin to start, but that just gives me opportunity to play the Waiver Wire. If I can limp into Week 7 3-3 or better in most of these leagues, the subsequent lineup with appropriate waiver management could be uncompeteable. He is a POWERPLAY this season.
 
Stuart Ullman said:
Full disclosure. DeAndre Hopkins is one of my favorite football players and I am an Arizona Cardinals fan. I ended up with DeAndre Hopkins on all of my fantasy teams this year. I think he can be a league winner this year. There are teams I drafted with competitive lineups that become MURDER lineups when DeAndre Hopkins rolls in Week 7.

We're talking teams where DeAndre is your 7th - 9th best player and he's coming in off the slot scoring 16 - 22 points for you. A few of these teams are a little bit thin to start, but that just gives me opportunity to play the Waiver Wire. If I can limp into Week 7 3-3 or better in most of these leagues, the subsequent lineup with appropriate waiver management could be uncompeteable. He is a POWERPLAY this season.
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I think you are automatically assuming he will return to form as one of the top 3-4 WRs in the NFL, like in his heyday.
Now, I haven't owned him in several years, but one of my buddies has every year, and he said himself that last year he looked like he just wasn't the same player anymore. Still good, but just not at that top tier level.
I don't really know, as I haven't watched him at all in a number of years.

Can he be a fantasy contributor......? Probably so. But I wouldn't exactly call him a game changer at this point. I certainly wouldn't be depending on him "saving my season", but I suppose we won't really know anything until he is back in lineups mid season.

I wonder what other board members that have owned him yearly, can say about his overall performance and look the last couple of seasons.
 
Stuart Ullman said:
Full disclosure. DeAndre Hopkins is one of my favorite football players and I am an Arizona Cardinals fan. I ended up with DeAndre Hopkins on all of my fantasy teams this year. I think he can be a league winner this year. There are teams I drafted with competitive lineups that become MURDER lineups when DeAndre Hopkins rolls in Week 7.

We're talking teams where DeAndre is your 7th - 9th best player and he's coming in off the slot scoring 16 - 22 points for you. A few of these teams are a little bit thin to start, but that just gives me opportunity to play the Waiver Wire. If I can limp into Week 7 3-3 or better in most of these leagues, the subsequent lineup with appropriate waiver management could be uncompeteable. He is a POWERPLAY this season.
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I'm onboard. Took him in round 10 in a 10-teamer last night and that was considered a reach. We also start 3 WR's and after Kupp (pick 5), and Higgins, I gotta start Chris Godwin or George Pickens, unless I drop Pickens for AJ Green to fill in while D Hop sits? What do you think Cardinals fan?
 
Team Smokin' said:
Stuart Ullman said:
Full disclosure. DeAndre Hopkins is one of my favorite football players and I am an Arizona Cardinals fan. I ended up with DeAndre Hopkins on all of my fantasy teams this year. I think he can be a league winner this year. There are teams I drafted with competitive lineups that become MURDER lineups when DeAndre Hopkins rolls in Week 7.

We're talking teams where DeAndre is your 7th - 9th best player and he's coming in off the slot scoring 16 - 22 points for you. A few of these teams are a little bit thin to start, but that just gives me opportunity to play the Waiver Wire. If I can limp into Week 7 3-3 or better in most of these leagues, the subsequent lineup with appropriate waiver management could be uncompeteable. He is a POWERPLAY this season.
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I'm onboard. Took him in round 10 in a 10-teamer last night and that was considered a reach. We also start 3 WR's and after Kupp (pick 5), and Higgins, I gotta start Chris Godwin or George Pickens, unless I drop Pickens for AJ Green to fill in while D Hop sits? What do you think Cardinals fan?
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On a second thought with Diontae Johnson hobbling more than I thought, I think I'll hang with Pickens. If D Johnson were to miss game 1 then I seriously have to consider starting him at WR #3 unless I get more optimistic with Chris Godwin, who will likely be on snap count and watched closely - if he plays.
 
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Mister CIA said:
Page one of this thread was fun to read.
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Speaking of that.

Does anyone else have trouble on mobile with the new forum?

Sometimes it jumps to where I was in a recent thread.

Sometimes it jumps to page 1 and I have to hit a button that says jump to new.

Sometimes that button isn’t even there and I have to scroll to the bottom and go to the last page of the thread.

It’s minor my annoying, but I’m wondering if perhaps I’m doing something wrong.
 
Fellow Cards fan. Ending up with a lot of Hollywood and Hopkins this year. (I'm usually reaching for Hollywood before his 58 overall ADP as at a min he's set for a huge target share for 6 weeks with the best passing QB he's played with in the NFL & one with familiarity with in college)

I'm not slotting Hop in for 16-22 PPG upon return BUT I do think one of he or Hollywood will be Top 15 fantasy WR from Weeks 7-on (I've taken both on same team in several leagues and think it'll be Hollywood). Should be interesting with Hop as his production last year was buoyed by TDs. His target share last year was not close to what it's been in the past.
 
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Can Hopkins ball out? He didn’t get nearly enough targets last year and then got hurt.

I have a trade incoming to send him to my WR needy team and thinking about pulling the trigger.

Have Murray as my QB so the thought of a productive stack is always fun, though it’s boom or bust.
 
VikingFrog said:
Can Hopkins ball out? He didn’t get nearly enough targets last year and then got hurt.

I have a trade incoming to send him to my WR needy team and thinking about pulling the trigger.

Have Murray as my QB so the thought of a productive stack is always fun, though it’s boom or bust.
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Quick recap on this guy: Last year was the first year he was out w/ an injury and you get the suspension and age/cliff talk all baked into his discount on top of that. So he is most likely undervalued.

How it affects this offense: Hollywood has been all right, but I think Hopkins is just so much more savvy and with Murray's ability to scramble, I see Hopkins making himself open when play breaks down and finding the soft spots as Murray's security blanket. He's going to earn designed targets too as Hollywood/Moore are stretching the field and Hopkins is ol reliable target hog and Ertz being TD dependent from here on out.

The benefits of a healthy Hopkins midseason on your team is understated. He will be fresh and I'm bullish to see him as a lowend WR1/highend WR2 throughout this year. That's really good if you were able to weather the storm and can be at least 3-3 by the time he comes back.

To trade for: If someone is willing to deal him away for WR1 value I'd think its smart to pass, but if its Highend WR2 value then you should roll the dice, if you need someone. Value will rise as we get closer to the return date.

To trade away: I drafted him and my thoughts to deal him are if you get a trade that values him towards that WR1 you might want to take/consider that offer. Speculation is all over the place online and pending on your leaguemate's opinion they might see him as a WR1 to a WR3 and no one is really wrong. I'd also give him a pass on the week he debuts if he started slow and not jump to any conclusions.
 
Hartliner said:
VikingFrog said:
Can Hopkins ball out? He didn’t get nearly enough targets last year and then got hurt.

I have a trade incoming to send him to my WR needy team and thinking about pulling the trigger.

Have Murray as my QB so the thought of a productive stack is always fun, though it’s boom or bust.
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Quick recap on this guy: Last year was the first year he was out w/ an injury and you get the suspension and age/cliff talk all baked into his discount on top of that. So he is most likely undervalued.

How it affects this offense: Hollywood has been all right, but I think Hopkins is just so much more savvy and with Murray's ability to scramble, I see Hopkins making himself open when play breaks down and finding the soft spots as Murray's security blanket. He's going to earn designed targets too as Hollywood/Moore are stretching the field and Hopkins is ol reliable target hog and Ertz being TD dependent from here on out.

The benefits of a healthy Hopkins midseason on your team is understated. He will be fresh and I'm bullish to see him as a lowend WR1/highend WR2 throughout this year. That's really good if you were able to weather the storm and can be at least 3-3 by the time he comes back.

To trade for: If someone is willing to deal him away for WR1 value I'd think its smart to pass, but if its Highend WR2 value then you should roll the dice, if you need someone. Value will rise as we get closer to the return date.

To trade away: I drafted him and my thoughts to deal him are if you get a trade that values him towards that WR1 you might want to take/consider that offer. Speculation is all over the place online and pending on your leaguemate's opinion they might see him as a WR1 to a WR3 and no one is really wrong. I'd also give him a pass on the week he debuts if he started slow and not jump to any conclusions.
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I ended up trading Rahmondre for Hopkins. I’m fairly deep at running back (on paper seeing as most of my team is underperforming).

Felt like solid value. Now the key is to be 3-3 by week six because I’m currently 0-3 with some tough sledding ahead.
 
Robbie being added kind of tells me the 'potential' season ending injury is more likely going to be confirmed. So, If no Hollywood Brown ROS, I think we can now expect WR 1 - Highend WR 2 #s .

I had the goal to make it to week 7 sitting at 3-3. I think Hopkins is key to my win this year if I make it all the way.
 
Well, this is probably breaking perfectly for Hopkins owners. While Hopkins was seeing a smaller target share than normal last season, that was almost certainly fluky. He's proven to be a very high-volume player (he even had 160 targets with Murray in 2020) in the past. Hopkins is likely a better overall WR than Hollywood is/was, and Brown was 2nd in the NFL in targets going into this week. Its not as spread it around as it was a year ago.

I kind of feel like the worst-case scenario is doing roughly what Hollywood was doing, which was a low-end WR1, best case scenario, I think is Hopkins being a league winner, putting up numbers just short of the Jefferson/Kupp/Diggs trio.

This injury sucks for Hollywood owners and is disappointing for Murray owners as he was likely to get a big bump from having 2 very good WRs, but Hopkins owners just won the lottery in my opinion. It was looking like a potential 1A/1B scenario, now Hopkins looks like a 10+ target a week guy to me.
 

Cardinals activated DeAndre Hopkins (suspension) to the 53-man roster.​

After serving his six-game suspension for violating the NFL's Performance Enhancing Drug policy, Hopkins is back practicing with the Cards and should be in line to play Week 7 against the Saints. His return couldn't come at a better time, as wide receiver Marquise Brown (foot) is expected to miss some time, if not the remainder of the season, after suffering an injury in Sunday's loss to the Seahawks. Hopkins should resume his role as the Cardinals' WR1 and is a high-upside WR2 for fantasy purposes. To clear room for Hopkins, the Cardinals released kicker Matt Ammendola.
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Praying for a nice run so I can flip him in my 2 dynasty leagues on teams that definitely need WR roster turnover. Any chance with a nice stretch run here, he might be able to fetch a Pickens/Olave type with the right trade partner?
 
sheerterror said:
Praying for a nice run so I can flip him in my 2 dynasty leagues on teams that definitely need WR roster turnover. Any chance with a nice stretch run here, he might be able to fetch a Pickens/Olave type with the right trade partner?
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He'd need to revert to 2019 levels of performance to maybe get Pickens off of a contender who's got an injury crisis
 
sheerterror said:
Praying for a nice run so I can flip him in my 2 dynasty leagues on teams that definitely need WR roster turnover. Any chance with a nice stretch run here, he might be able to fetch a Pickens/Olave type with the right trade partner?
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Olave? I don't see any way of that happening. I was a bit skeptical of him, but his stats and peripherals are outstanding and I don't imagine anyone is moving him for less than top 10 wr value. I know I would not.
Pickens would be a huge win as well, but more attainable.
 
Should we expect a full dose of him tonight? Or is this going to be a snap count type get right game. I need to start him with AJ Brown and Jefferson on bye.
 
Listened to the Klif local show yesterday, no mention of a snap count. Which, of course, means little to nothing
 
Arizona is teetering on a top-10 draft pick. No way this guy is on a snap count with their season on the line and Hollywood out. Sure maybe he’s winded and misses a few plays but nothing significant.
 
Gottabesweet said:
Good question. Deciding on Hopkins vs. Godwin. Already have Kyler and Ertz. Woof.
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Don't see Hopkins being on a snap count, but I'd probably go Godwin anyway. Not like Carolina is a bad matchup for him. Sounds like you have a pretty good team (or at least WR room) if you aren't starting both.
 
I think he's going to play angry. Rumor mill is that his camp is withholding evidence that he was actually at 0.01% of the banned substance and will release the info at season's end. That, combined with watching his team implode from the couch makes for him making a yooge statement tonight.

disclosure - I have both him and the shrimp going tonight, so im clearly biased.
 
DeAndre Hopkins TNF Spotlight: Player Props for Thursday Night Football Week 7


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It's also a good situation for Hopkins to return on Thursday. The New Orleans Saints defense won't have star CB Marshon Lattimore once again, and without him last week, the Saints allowed Ja'Marr Chase to register seven catches, while Tyler Boyd and Tee Higgins both also had six catches.

Hopkins likely won't play a full snap count (although the receiver said he doesn't feel like he should be limited), which has me a little concerned about a yardage prop that sits between 58.5 and 60.5.

I do, however, like his receptions prop: Hopkins will definitely be playing on key downs, and with a banged-up offensive line (now without Justin Pugh) and no threat of a run game at all, the Saints will be coming after Murray — meaning we could see a lot of quick, short throws.

Against a secondary lacking guys who can cover receivers, expect Hopkins to be the recipient of many of those important passes, taking him Over his receptions prop for TNF.

Prop: DeAndre Hopkins Over 5.5 receptions (+125)
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travdogg said:
Gottabesweet said:
Good question. Deciding on Hopkins vs. Godwin. Already have Kyler and Ertz. Woof.
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Don't see Hopkins being on a snap count, but I'd probably go Godwin anyway. Not like Carolina is a bad matchup for him. Sounds like you have a pretty good team (or at least WR room) if you aren't starting both.
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Thank You. Finally they are slowly getting healthy.

12 team PPR. Start 1RB, 1WR, 3Flex. Have Kyler and Ertz going tonight so was leery to start all three Cards and on TNF week.

Traded Breece Hall and Lockett for Deebo/Rondale Moore this week as well.

RB- CMC/Stevenson/Dobbins
WR- Lamb/K. Allen/Deebo/Hopkins/Godwin/R Moore.

Trying to deal Stevenson and Godwin for a better RB now since I dealt Hall.
 
Soooooo he’s going to be an absolute target hog on a team that loves to pass, will probably be trailing a lot, and will be the first look from a qb who seems to not make it through many progressions. He could have easily had a bigger game tonight in a negative game script. Can you name 12 wrs you’d take over him rest of season?
 
Cobbler1 said:
Soooooo he’s going to be an absolute target hog on a team that loves to pass, will probably be trailing a lot, and will be the first look from a qb who seems to not make it through many progressions. He could have easily had a bigger game tonight in a negative game script. Can you name 12 wrs you’d take over him rest of season?
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Hollywood was WR7 when he got hurt. That seems like a fair spot for Hopkins going forward.
 

DeAndre Hopkins caught 10-of-14 targets for 103 yards in the Cardinals' Week 7 win over the Saints.​

A pair of Andy Dalton pick-sixes helped the cause, but Hopkins made his 2022 debut and the Cardinals proceeded to score 40 points for the first time during the four-year Kliff Kingsbury era. With the Cardinals scrambling at wideout following Marquise Brown's foot injury, Hopkins' 14 looks were nine more than any other Bird. The only thing missing was a touchdown, with Rondale Moore curiously getting a failed end zone look and Greg Dortch cashing in another. Hopkins looked no worse for the wear following last year's injury issues and last offseason's PED ban. After warranting WR2 caution for Week 7, Hopkins will probably find himself in the WR1 mix for Week 8.
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Cobbler1 said:
Soooooo he’s going to be an absolute target hog on a team that loves to pass, will probably be trailing a lot, and will be the first look from a qb who seems to not make it through many progressions. He could have easily had a bigger game tonight in a negative game script. Can you name 12 wrs you’d take over him rest of season?
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Who is over Hopkins? ROS

Tier 1: Diggs, JJ, Kupp

Tier 2: Chase, Tyreek, Adams, and Hopkins is here too now - this is all interchangeable to me

I was bullish before the Marquise Brown injury and now he looks top 5 to me.

- More of an 'on the couch take', but I also am thinking about Murray getting heated at Kliff exchange. Strangely this interaction looked healthy and productive because we saw Hopkins was there to calm Murray down. I know that seems weird to mention but Its kinda a Stafford/Kupp vibe where these guys are on the same wavelength and Hopkins is guiding his QB towards success.
 
Hartliner said:
Cobbler1 said:
Soooooo he’s going to be an absolute target hog on a team that loves to pass, will probably be trailing a lot, and will be the first look from a qb who seems to not make it through many progressions. He could have easily had a bigger game tonight in a negative game script. Can you name 12 wrs you’d take over him rest of season?
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Who is over Hopkins? ROS

Tier 1: Diggs, JJ, Kupp

Tier 2: Chase, Tyreek, Adams, and Hopkins is here too now - this is all interchangeable to me

I was bullish before the Marquise Brown injury and now he looks top 5 to me.

- More of an 'on the couch take', but I also am thinking about Murray getting heated at Kliff exchange. Strangely this interaction looked healthy and productive because we saw Hopkins was there to calm Murray down. I know that seems weird to mention but Its kinda a Stafford/Kupp vibe where these guys are on the same wavelength and Hopkins is guiding his QB towards success.
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100% agree with the bolded, that heated exchange looked like a productive one to me.

Its amazing to me that people are surprised that Hopkins was so involved. 2021 was obviously a mirage, Hopkins was 2nd in targets in 2020, and Hollywood was 2nd in targets this year, its an offense that is designed to feature 1 guy.

As for the rest of the year, I'm pretty much in agreement, though I'd add Lamb and St. Brown to that 2nd tier.
 

DeAndre Hopkins caught 10-of-14 targets for 98 yards in the Cardinals' Week 10 win over the Rams.​

Hopkins has now gone for 98+ yards in three of his first four games back from suspension and doesn't appear to have missed a step. The veteran receiver continues to find ways to get open, and can terrorize opposing defenses at a moment's notice. Hopkins saw 38 of his yards come on a single drive in the second quarter when he cranked out four-straight receptions on the drive to help set up a James Conner rushing touchdown in the closing minutes of the first half. He'd later haul in a 25-yard reception late in the third quarter, as he and the Cardinals looked just fine with Colt McCoy under center. Through four games, Hopkins is averaging 11.5 targets per game. He's a high-end WR1 next week against the 49ers.
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