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WR Drake London, ATL (1 Viewer)

Agree that he’s steady and solid, but not spectacular. Part of that may relate to him being used on short to intermediate routes where there aren’t as many YAC opportunities. Down the field seems to be Mooney’s role, and he’s been targeted more than I thought compared to London.
 
I have to admit I bought the hype on this guy. Very very high on many Draft Boards.
However, a pretty underwhelming season.
Many games he has been the 3rd most productive WR on his own team with Mooney AND McCloud outperforming him.
Lots of talent but not producing big numbers.
Broke 100 yard receiving just once this year. 1 TD in last 6 games.
Disappointment.
 
togo said:
I have to admit I bought the hype on this guy. Very very high on many Draft Boards.
However, a pretty underwhelming season.
Many games he has been the 3rd most productive WR on his own team with Mooney AND McCloud outperforming him.
Lots of talent but not producing big numbers.
Broke 100 yard receiving just once this year. 1 TD in last 6 games.
Disappointment.
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This is an overreaction. He's still a WR1 on the season, and only in his 3rd year.
 
With Michael Penix starting what do we think it does for London’s outlook this week vs the NYG?

Personally I feel like London’s most likely outcome is a little bit less than his expected output with Cousins. I assume more of a commitment to the run while seeing what Penix has.
 
Max55 said:
With Michael Penix starting what do we think it does for London’s outlook this week vs the NYG?

Personally I feel like London’s most likely outcome is a little bit less than his expected output with Cousins. I assume more of a commitment to the run while seeing what Penix has.
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Agreed - I think short term it actually may be a downgrade for London as they build chemistry and the Falcons lean on the run game to not overburden Penix. Hard to bench London though because I imagine Penix leans on him when he does air it out.
 
Max55 said:
With Michael Penix starting what do we think it does for London’s outlook this week vs the NYG?

Personally I feel like London’s most likely outcome is a little bit less than his expected output with Cousins. I assume more of a commitment to the run while seeing what Penix has.
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having the same debate. My thought process....London has been decent with a horrible Cousins...can Penix be worse? Probably not but does Penix spread it out more? run more? and as mentioned, do they lean on the run more vs a bad Giants run defense? probably. I have McLaurin, Jennings, Jonathan Taylor and London to choose between....all are ranked basically within a point of one another. Having a good bench is great except when it comes to the playoffs and these tough calls....pulling my hair out.
 
Cousins has been cratering for the last month, and London's production has been hanging by a thread (see the wide open 30 yard TD saving his 3 target day last week). Maybe London won't hit what he was doing in the middle of the season, but I am more comfortable starting him then I was before the news.
 
jtd13 said:
Cousins has been cratering for the last month, and London's production has been hanging by a thread (see the wide open 30 yard TD saving his 3 target day last week). Maybe London won't hit what he was doing in the middle of the season, but I am more comfortable starting him then I was before the news.
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Same. I also don't think he will rely on Mooney as much as K-Chainz did.
 
Jacob Gibbs
Drake London has played 50 career games.

Dating back to 2013, there are only three WRs to draw targets and convert first downs at a higher per-route rate than London through an initial 50 career games.

It's flown under the radar because his offenses have been terrible, but London has flashed elite WR1 target-earning ability early in his career.
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Drake London's initial 50 games produced per-route data nearly identical to Amon-Ra St. Brown and Michael Thomas

With wayyy worse QB play
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Faust said:
Jacob Gibbs
Drake London has played 50 career games.

Dating back to 2013, there are only three WRs to draw targets and convert first downs at a higher per-route rate than London through an initial 50 career games.

It's flown under the radar because his offenses have been terrible, but London has flashed elite WR1 target-earning ability early in his career.
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Drake London's initial 50 games produced per-route data nearly identical to Amon-Ra St. Brown and Michael Thomas

With wayyy worse QB play
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Good stuff. Wouldn’t be shocked at all if he leads the league in targets this year. Mooney needs to get healthy to draw some attention away, but volume should be huge for Drake this year.
 
Coming off an awesome year with Cousins at QB for a good chunk of it.

Over his final 3 games witih Penix, he had 39 targets, 22 receptions, 352 yards, and 2 TD's
Extrapolated over a 17 game season: A ridiculous 221 targets, 125 receptions, 1994 yards, 11 TD's.

Obviously, that's skewed by a monster 187 yard game. But he had another 13 target, 7 catch, 106 yard game in that stretch.

I've got him at WR9. And as I've said with BTJ/Nico, it keeps feeling too low. Crazy to get this good of a player as the #9 receiver.
 
jm192 said:
Coming off an awesome year with Cousins at QB for a good chunk of it.

Over his final 3 games witih Penix, he had 39 targets, 22 receptions, 352 yards, and 2 TD's
Extrapolated over a 17 game season: A ridiculous 221 targets, 125 receptions, 1994 yards, 11 TD's.

Obviously, that's skewed by a monster 187 yard game. But he had another 13 target, 7 catch, 106 yard game in that stretch.

I've got him at WR9. And as I've said with BTJ/Nico, it keeps feeling too low. Crazy to get this good of a player as the #9 receiver.
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He seems like a pretty safe bet to perform at ADP.
 
Every Titans reporter was impressed with London the last two days.
He had a day yesterday and Titans D stunk.
They stepped up today and Brownlee was showing why he's probably the next top CB in the league.
Per TD- Falcons started calling plays where one of Pitts or London shifts and they run routes close to each other then break-off. The Titans had problems with this and then put a CB at LB and LB at CB presnap and were able to shut it down. Orlando called it piggybacking.
Whatever, they seem to have a plan and defenses aren't stopping London this year
 
Bri said:
Every Titans reporter was impressed with London the last two days.
He had a day yesterday and Titans D stunk.
They stepped up today and Brownlee was showing why he's probably the next top CB in the league.
Per TD- Falcons started calling plays where one of Pitts or London shifts and they run routes close to each other then break-off. The Titans had problems with this and then put a CB at LB and LB at CB presnap and were able to shut it down. Orlando called it piggybacking.
Whatever, they seem to have a plan and defenses aren't stopping London this year
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I'm thinking London ends up as a top 5 WR this year, it just seems like so much of the volume is going to go his way, and he will win a lot.

100/1400/12 kinda stuff is what I'm thinking
 
RaidersAreOne said:
What's the deal with London? Good buy low target or is Atlanta's passing game cooked?
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Interesting question, and these bullet points from Bloom's "What You Need to Know From Week 2" piece suggests it could be more up-and-down for the Falcons passing game (and London in particular as their highest drafted receiving weapon) than many were hoping when they took him in the 2nd round:
  • Give an assist to a Vikings defense that can get after the quarterback, but know that the Falcons will run the ball as much as they can when they control the game. The Atlanta defense was outstanding and might not give Penix many pass-heavy game scripts like the one he got in Week 1 when the Bucs shut down the Falcons' running game. Penix will need to have some big plays early against the Panthers to have a good Week 3 in fantasy unless the Panthers surprise us with their competitiveness.
  • Drake London and Darnell Mooney were quiet in the run-heavy offense. We are going to have to deal with a lot of variance in this game script-sensitive offense. It doesn't look like London will be a fantasy WR1 despite being drafted as one.
 
I may have overpaid to get him but, I'm already optimizing to have a better starting lineup than bench depth.

I dealt Sutton and Evans to get London and Fannin.

London to me is the best player in the trade per experts I see him ROS as 4-11th best WR. My personal fave expert says 8th best. Below is SOS per Fantasy Pros albeit only 2 weeks of data so grain of salt.

SOSOPPSummary
Next GameCar30th
PlayoffsTB,ARI, LAR25th
ROS--30th

I also looked at returning Godwin and emerging Egbuka to lessen Evans target share in near future. (i was hoping for Evans to be scoring all these TDs in early part of season and that didn't even happen)

- Penix is 2nd year and I expect up and down variance, but London has a crazy target share to avoid that imo.
- I also think ATL opp will try to stop the run as priority most games.
 
Hard to judge anything on this Falcons offense when they're this bad. Only thing that worked was Bijan. Mooney got targets but that passing game has to involve London for any success and he ghosted today.
 
I lost Conner and Harris yesterday and was already thin at RB's (gambled on Henderson, Harvey, and Pacheco and it isn't working out at all with any of them). I convinced the owner of Kyren Williams to trade me London straight up in a .5ppr league. Am I crazy? Other WR is Chase (with Burrow down that sucks too but I have no RB's worth starting right now).
 
1320kid said:
I lost Conner and Harris yesterday and was already thin at RB's (gambled on Henderson, Harvey, and Pacheco and it isn't working out at all with any of them). I convinced the owner of Kyren Williams to trade me London straight up in a .5ppr league. Am I crazy? Other WR is Chase (with Burrow down that sucks too but I have no RB's worth starting right now).
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You did fine. Drake is probably a back end WR1/High end WR2 in regard to value right now. Kyren is probably a back end RB1/high end RB2. If you factor in positional scarcity--and your teams needs--you made a deal that makes sense for you and your teams needs.
 
Thoughts on London ROS? I was just offered London + Stafford for my Daniels + Chase Brown.

I love me some London and have tried trading for him for a while now. However even with Brown's bad season so far, I feel like it's too much to give up.

Am I way off on this or should we expect way more of those 10+ target, 100 yards and TD days consistently from Drake?
 
RaidersAreOne said:
Thoughts on London ROS? I was just offered London + Stafford for my Daniels + Chase Brown.

I love me some London and have tried trading for him for a while now. However even with Brown's bad season so far, I feel like it's too much to give up.

Am I way off on this or should we expect way more of those 10+ target, 100 yards and TD days consistently from Drake?
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I expect London to be a beast ROS....one of my favorites this year.
 
RaidersAreOne said:
Thoughts on London ROS? I was just offered London + Stafford for my Daniels + Chase Brown.

I love me some London and have tried trading for him for a while now. However even with Brown's bad season so far, I feel like it's too much to give up.

Am I way off on this or should we expect way more of those 10+ target, 100 yards and TD days consistently from Drake?
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I'm guessing this is for redraft? In which case I'd say it's an auto accept for me. Stafford has been playing at a supremely high level this year and any concerns of injuries from the preseason should be forgotten at this point. If he is playing hurt, I can't tell. He's QB6 already on the season.

Chase Brown has shown he does not have the talent to rise above his abysmal situation, not meant as a slight as very few RBs do/would. But that situation is not changing. I can see some people hoping Flacco brings some kinda spark Browning couldn't, yet people were just singing the praises of Browning here after Burrow went down. That line is abysmal. And while maybe Flacco will get a few extra check downs to Brown, it's not like they lack other receiving options. Plus by my eye, Flacco looked bad on the Browns and Gabriel a rookie (who most people were INCREDIBLY low on) already looked better.

So far Brown's best games have been equivalent to London's worst. He finally broke out this season last week. He's the top receiving option in a group that just lost another WR. And naturally WRs are less reliant on all the noise around them then RBs. His upside ROS is miles higher than Brown IMO.

Even if you want to think Daniels returns to last years form at some point and will be worth more than Stafford over the ROS, I don't think it comes close to bridging the gap I see between London and Brown. So yeah, that trade would be an auto accept for me taking London and Stafford over Daniels and Brown.

If it's a dynasty, and especially if it's a SF dynasty, that's a whole other conversation with Stafford being 37 vs Daniels 24 and the scarcity of QBs.
 
Have you guys seen the with/without Mooney splits?

They’re ridiculous. I don’t have them offhand, but if you’re looking for the key, that is the one.
 
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