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WR Gabriel Davis, Free Agent (1 Viewer)

rockaction said:
Hot Sauce Guy said:
Literally the only other wide receiver I have is Mimms
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Now you see why I'm debating Ashton Dulin and Parris Campbell in a sixteen-team league. I don't think Mims sniffed the field last week, never mind got dirty on it.

But yeah, to echo the above points, Isaiah McKenzie is not picking up Davis's slack. Nor is Crowder. Those guys are in the slot. I know Khalil Shakir was supposed to be slot, but i heard he can split wide if they need him.

Need Buffalo homers in here to set us straight.
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Shakir had a great pre-season, 8 of 8, with 3 catches over 20 yards. He can make defenders miss 1 on 1. I think Davis is replaceable for a game or 2, Josh Allen makes him look better than he really is. Shakir would the fastest WR, but I'm not sure Allen would trust him over Diggs, and Crowder, who looked quick last week.

Buffalo homers?
 
Late week injury Gabriel Davis vs ’21 data:
-26 pass catchers as LP Fri or Sat after not being on report
-22/26 were ACTIVE

Notable finishes:

DK Metcalf WR27
Pittman WR13
Sutton WR10
Mooney WR5
Valdes-Scantling WR67
Sterling Shepard WR 78
K. Toney WR67
Mike Evans WR22
Ertz TE9

Much better than I thought
 
SoBeDad said:
rockaction said:
Hot Sauce Guy said:
Literally the only other wide receiver I have is Mimms
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Now you see why I'm debating Ashton Dulin and Parris Campbell in a sixteen-team league. I don't think Mims sniffed the field last week, never mind got dirty on it.

But yeah, to echo the above points, Isaiah McKenzie is not picking up Davis's slack. Nor is Crowder. Those guys are in the slot. I know Khalil Shakir was supposed to be slot, but i heard he can split wide if they need him.

Need Buffalo homers in here to set us straight.
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Shakir had a great pre-season, 8 of 8, with 3 catches over 20 yards. He can make defenders miss 1 on 1. I think Davis is replaceable for a game or 2, Josh Allen makes him look better than he really is. Shakir would the fastest WR, but I'm not sure Allen would trust him over Diggs, and Crowder, who looked quick last week.

Buffalo homers?
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Diggs is WR #1 in Buffalo no matter who else is out there. At least for this year.

McKenzie and Crowder are both slot receivers. Shakir can play both inside and outside. As for as type of receiver goes, he‘s definitely more of the straight up replacement for both Diggs and Davis than the other receivers on the team. That doesn’t mean that they would just slot him in and pencil him in to be used/targeted just like those guys those. I think it would be much more likely that they would alter the game plan and rotate guys some and spread the ball around more to those guys in the slot and to Dawson Knox.

The sneaky negative would be that Davis is, by far, their best blocking receiver. So Davis being out would probably hurt the running game.

If Shakir is active, I would definitely take that as a bad sign for Davis.
 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
For @Ministry of Pain & @rockaction:
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This is somewhat correct in that Davis is a bigger guy, but Hodgins doesn’t really have the speed that Davis does and isn’t a great route runner. IMO, Hodgins is more similar in overall style of receiver to Jake Kumerow than he is to Gabe Davis.

The Bills love Shakir. I think it would be highly unlikely that they would elevate Hodgins from the PS and make him a replacement for Davis over simply making Shakir active.

Plus, with 2 DTs being on the injured list, it’s way more likely that they elevate a DT from the PS and make him active than a WR (though teams can elevate 2 guys so it’s possible they could do a DT and WR).
 
Gosh, it sucks that this is a Monday night game! It would be great to hear what happened, but we never will. I have Shakir in one league, a couple options in an other. But I do have one league where I have no options, its either sit him today or flip a coin .... I will likely go with sitting.
 
Boston said:
Davis is a big time fantasy asset…you have two quality scenarios…one, you can hold onto him and take the ride with him…at worst he should be a quality contributor in an excellent offense and at best he could be a real difference-maker…as long as you are realistic right now you are in great shape holding onto him…the other scenario is you use him as an asset to go after a bigger fish…right now any Dynasty trade package involving him is going to catch the attention of the Owner you sent it to and if it is a rebuilding team even more-so…if you are a Davis Dynasty Owner you are in a very good spot because you have a valuable asset and you probably did not have to give up much or draft him to high to acquire him…these type of players, whether you keep them or trade them can really impact your roster in a positive way.
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Just saw him traded for Keenan Allen basically.
 
Hankmoody said:
Boston said:
Davis is a big time fantasy asset…you have two quality scenarios…one, you can hold onto him and take the ride with him…at worst he should be a quality contributor in an excellent offense and at best he could be a real difference-maker…as long as you are realistic right now you are in great shape holding onto him…the other scenario is you use him as an asset to go after a bigger fish…right now any Dynasty trade package involving him is going to catch the attention of the Owner you sent it to and if it is a rebuilding team even more-so…if you are a Davis Dynasty Owner you are in a very good spot because you have a valuable asset and you probably did not have to give up much or draft him to high to acquire him…these type of players, whether you keep them or trade them can really impact your roster in a positive way.
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Just saw him traded for Keenan Allen basically.
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Dynasty?
 
NFL Network analyst just said he sprianed his ankle in a non-contact drill. Questionable but could become doubtful. Take it for what it is if you need to make line-up changes.
 
Not looking good for Monday, Ugh.
I have Knox I could flex over him, so will likely do that if he's inactive. 1.5TEPPR
 
Yeah I pulled him out of almost every spot. I have a couple where I will wait and can pivot to either Singletary or Burks if I have to and I don't hate that. Preemptive move would be either AlbertO or Claypool. Ok AlbertO. Not sure I like them better than Burks or Singletary.
 
barackdhouse said:
Yeah I pulled him out of almost every spot. I have a couple where I will wait and can pivot to either Singletary or Burks if I have to and I don't hate that. Preemptive move would be either AlbertO or Claypool. Ok AlbertO. Not sure I like them better than Burks or Singletary.
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Dynasty I have McKenzie to plug in in one league, and I’m rolling the dice in the 16-team. Tried to deal for Crowder or Philips & both owners were unrealistically greedy. So it’s rife or die. Which sucks,

I picked up Philips in my IDP redraft dropping my 3rd DB, and if Philips can’t go, Crowder is a FA & I can make the swap tomorrow.

Ugh. Saturday injuries are the worst.

On the upside, I’ve read several takes by folks I respect suggesting that if this were serious we would have heard more details by now, so….I’m hopeful he plays.
 
Shawnky said:
Crap. Have to choose between Lockett and Doubs. Leaning Doubs.
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In situations like this where the replacements are low probability to score double digits, I’d almost rather start Davis and take the 0 if he doesn’t go.

I know every point helps, but risking 1-9 points for Davis upside seems like a reasonable gamble.

That said, I’d probably go Lockett > Doubs.
 
My gamble is starting a WR like Bateman for him. Better than a zero but not sure how much. If I didn't hear the analyst say "it wll probably turn to doubtful" I probably would have left him in my lineup.
 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
Shawnky said:
Crap. Have to choose between Lockett and Doubs. Leaning Doubs.
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In situations like this where the replacements are low probability to score double digits, I’d almost rather start Davis and take the 0 if he doesn’t go.

I know every point helps, but risking 1-9 points for Davis upside seems like a reasonable gamble.

That said, I’d probably go Lockett > Doubs.
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This is why leagues should have replacement players. Go ahead and start player (A) and if he is inactive insert player (B). Must post before either player’s game starts. We have this in several leagues and it works well.
 
JohnnyU said:
Hot Sauce Guy said:
Shawnky said:
Crap. Have to choose between Lockett and Doubs. Leaning Doubs.
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In situations like this where the replacements are low probability to score double digits, I’d almost rather start Davis and take the 0 if he doesn’t go.

I know every point helps, but risking 1-9 points for Davis upside seems like a reasonable gamble.

That said, I’d probably go Lockett > Doubs.
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This is why leagues should have replacement players. Go ahead and start player (A) and if he is inactive insert player (B). Must post before either player’s game starts. We have this in several leagues and it works well.
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I'd really like that in any league honestly.
 
JohnnyU said:
Hot Sauce Guy said:
Shawnky said:
Crap. Have to choose between Lockett and Doubs. Leaning Doubs.
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In situations like this where the replacements are low probability to score double digits, I’d almost rather start Davis and take the 0 if he doesn’t go.

I know every point helps, but risking 1-9 points for Davis upside seems like a reasonable gamble.

That said, I’d probably go Lockett > Doubs.
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This is why leagues should have replacement players. Go ahead and start player (A) and if he is inactive insert player (B). Must post before either player’s game starts. We have this in several leagues and it works well.
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I’ve done this many times for league members who’ve been traveling or dealing with personal issues. It works well.

Unfortunately, I doubt I could convince my league to do this as a standing practice.
 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
JohnnyU said:
Hot Sauce Guy said:
Shawnky said:
Crap. Have to choose between Lockett and Doubs. Leaning Doubs.
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In situations like this where the replacements are low probability to score double digits, I’d almost rather start Davis and take the 0 if he doesn’t go.

I know every point helps, but risking 1-9 points for Davis upside seems like a reasonable gamble.

That said, I’d probably go Lockett > Doubs.
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This is why leagues should have replacement players. Go ahead and start player (A) and if he is inactive insert player (B). Must post before either player’s game starts. We have this in several leagues and it works well.
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I’ve done this many times for league members who’ve been traveling or dealing with personal issues. It works well.

Unfortunately, I doubt I could convince my league to do this as a standing practice.
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The beauty of it is that your replacement player’s game may start early Sunday and the player you are starting and could be inactive plays Monday night. You don’t have to pickup a garbage player replacement on Monday. Again, both replacement player and who he is replacing has to be posted before either player’s game starts.
 
Sounds like I'm going Burks. Think I might play him even if Gabe's active. I need some points and how healthy can he really be if he's active with current reports?
 
I need 1 point and have to choose between Knox and Gabe but might just go Knox anyways regardless of Gabe status, and then hope that Gabe is out.
 
ahartig said:
So who takes Gabes position on the outside? Mckenzie? Crowder? Shakir?
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100% biased, but I feel Shakir has the higher ceiling and the more versatility of the 3 of these guys. Crowder has been weak as an outside WR most of his career. Seems McKenzie is also a slot guy at 5'8, 175 at best. Not saying he is going to go off tonight, but I feel he is a bit under the radar b/c he was a 5th round pick. Am interested to see how he plays tonight in Gabe's absence.
 
Part of me wants to start the shiny new toy, Shakir.... playing against Diggs, Henry and AJ B and up by 25.....starting Allen and one of Crowder or Shakir....ugh
 
Terpman22 said:
ahartig said:
So who takes Gabes position on the outside? Mckenzie? Crowder? Shakir?
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100% biased, but I feel Shakir has the higher ceiling and the more versatility of the 3 of these guys. Crowder has been weak as an outside WR most of his career. Seems McKenzie is also a slot guy at 5'8, 175 at best. Not saying he is going to go off tonight, but I feel he is a bit under the radar b/c he was a 5th round pick. Am interested to see how he plays tonight in Gabe's absence.
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Ya, what about Kumerow? I feel like Shakir got a decent amount of hype during offseason
 
Yeah I'm leaning Philips over Westbrook-Ikhine as my replacement for Davis. I could also elevate James Cook for the TS as I feel he could have a sneeky decent game in garbage time. :ninja:
 
ahartig said:
Terpman22 said:
ahartig said:
So who takes Gabes position on the outside? Mckenzie? Crowder? Shakir?
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100% biased, but I feel Shakir has the higher ceiling and the more versatility of the 3 of these guys. Crowder has been weak as an outside WR most of his career. Seems McKenzie is also a slot guy at 5'8, 175 at best. Not saying he is going to go off tonight, but I feel he is a bit under the radar b/c he was a 5th round pick. Am interested to see how he plays tonight in Gabe's absence.
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Ya, what about Kumerow? I feel like Shakir got a decent amount of hype during offseason
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I think it will be a rotation of Kumerow, McKenzie and Shakir.

The Bills under Daboll loved to scheme up packages to fit certain situations and best utilize players’ strengths. Dorsey seems to have a similar mindset. They love position versatility and love to create mismatches however they can. So I very much see them using all sorts of different packages to compensate for the loss of Davis.

Though, if this were more towards the end of the season, I think it would be much more heavily weighted towards Shakir.
 
GroveDiesel said:
ahartig said:
Terpman22 said:
ahartig said:
So who takes Gabes position on the outside? Mckenzie? Crowder? Shakir?
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100% biased, but I feel Shakir has the higher ceiling and the more versatility of the 3 of these guys. Crowder has been weak as an outside WR most of his career. Seems McKenzie is also a slot guy at 5'8, 175 at best. Not saying he is going to go off tonight, but I feel he is a bit under the radar b/c he was a 5th round pick. Am interested to see how he plays tonight in Gabe's absence.
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Ya, what about Kumerow? I feel like Shakir got a decent amount of hype during offseason
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I think it will be a rotation of Kumerow, McKenzie and Shakir.

The Bills under Daboll loved to scheme up packages to fit certain situations and best utilize players’ strengths. Dorsey seems to have a similar mindset. They love position versatility and love to create mismatches however they can. So I very much see them using all sorts of different packages to compensate for the loss of Davis.

Though, if this were more towards the end of the season, I think it would be much more heavily weighted towards Shakir.
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Appreciate the response. Gabe had close to 98% snap share last week, so someone going to get a lot more playing time.
 
ahartig said:
GroveDiesel said:
ahartig said:
Terpman22 said:
ahartig said:
So who takes Gabes position on the outside? Mckenzie? Crowder? Shakir?
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100% biased, but I feel Shakir has the higher ceiling and the more versatility of the 3 of these guys. Crowder has been weak as an outside WR most of his career. Seems McKenzie is also a slot guy at 5'8, 175 at best. Not saying he is going to go off tonight, but I feel he is a bit under the radar b/c he was a 5th round pick. Am interested to see how he plays tonight in Gabe's absence.
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Ya, what about Kumerow? I feel like Shakir got a decent amount of hype during offseason
Click to expand...

I think it will be a rotation of Kumerow, McKenzie and Shakir.

The Bills under Daboll loved to scheme up packages to fit certain situations and best utilize players’ strengths. Dorsey seems to have a similar mindset. They love position versatility and love to create mismatches however they can. So I very much see them using all sorts of different packages to compensate for the loss of Davis.

Though, if this were more towards the end of the season, I think it would be much more heavily weighted towards Shakir.
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Appreciate the response. Gabe had close to 98% snap share last week, so someone going to get a lot more playing time.
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Davis is their best blocking WR by quite a bit so that’s why he is in so much. Kumerow is probably their next best blocking receiver.
 
I didn’t realize there were two games tonight and forgot to swap out Gabriel in 3 leagues. Even in a league where we can post a replacement days ago and keep Gabriel in the lineup in case he was active, because I had planned on be online to swap him out. Fortunately it didn’t matter, because I was going to either lose or win anyway. I sup you can call that lucky.

where is the points to shirt emoji
 
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GroveDiesel said:
ahartig said:
Terpman22 said:
ahartig said:
So who takes Gabes position on the outside? Mckenzie? Crowder? Shakir?
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100% biased, but I feel Shakir has the higher ceiling and the more versatility of the 3 of these guys. Crowder has been weak as an outside WR most of his career. Seems McKenzie is also a slot guy at 5'8, 175 at best. Not saying he is going to go off tonight, but I feel he is a bit under the radar b/c he was a 5th round pick. Am interested to see how he plays tonight in Gabe's absence.
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Ya, what about Kumerow? I feel like Shakir got a decent amount of hype during offseason
Click to expand...

I think it will be a rotation of Kumerow, McKenzie and Shakir.

The Bills under Daboll loved to scheme up packages to fit certain situations and best utilize players’ strengths. Dorsey seems to have a similar mindset. They love position versatility and love to create mismatches however they can. So I very much see them using all sorts of different packages to compensate for the loss of Davis.

Though, if this were more towards the end of the season, I think it would be much more heavily weighted towards Shakir.
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Watching the Bills this year, with all the weapons they have, reminds me of the Packers in 2010-2011 when they had Jennings, Driver, Jordy, James Jones and J Finley. Rodgers had 2-3 guys open every time he dropped back. Josh Allen has a lot of weapons to choose from this year.
 
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