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WR Isaiah McKenzie - IND (1 Viewer)
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We are looking at a solid flex with good upside. We saw what his ceiling can be when the Bills had some injuries last year. I've always loved his talent and wondered why he wasn't used more. He is a more explosive Cole B with play making ability. Every year there are some low hanging fruit in the draft and this is one of them. He's an easy pick in rounds 11/12.
greenmountaingoat
Footballguy
Have him in dynasty and I'm excited to see how he does. He's far from an auto start but could make himself an interesting sit/start question or even an autostart for you for a few weeks to get you through an injury/bye week. My first year being in two leagues and-- for better or worse-- I don't think I have anyone in common between both teams so I'll have guys going or guys I'm facing in just about every game all year.
ShaneFalco
Footballguy
Bump in usage for Isaiah tonight?
Drake Hater
Footballguy
Turns out nope. Three targets just like week 1. Still on watch but unless a team can cover Diggs it looks like the target share is going to be on the low end.
Truebluey
Footballguy
So what are folks thoughts on him going forward with Crowder out for the year? Dedicated slot guy on the Bills - didn't Beasley turn that into 100 targets?
Seems like a good WR 3 from here on out? Trying to decide if I want to grab him or Alec Pierce (I drafted Isaiah but dropped him when a league mate dropped Amari Cooper after week 1.)
Seems like a good WR 3 from here on out? Trying to decide if I want to grab him or Alec Pierce (I drafted Isaiah but dropped him when a league mate dropped Amari Cooper after week 1.)
Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
greenmountaingoat
Footballguy
Prayers for his full recovery from the concussion.
I'd say Crowder's ankle = wheels up for McKenzie as a WR3 type but the WR/TE/RB pass catching chops that haven't been used much to date still have the potential to cut into the "steps into Beasley's role"
Still seems like the number of mouths to feed between McKenzie, Knox, Davis, Cook and if Shakir's role might make it tough to count on any of these guys. Don't want to say "helpful" but I can see that behind Diggs, these guys will all be a little hit and miss. The overall volume and explosiveness of the offense though. MMMMmm
I'd say Crowder's ankle = wheels up for McKenzie as a WR3 type but the WR/TE/RB pass catching chops that haven't been used much to date still have the potential to cut into the "steps into Beasley's role"
Still seems like the number of mouths to feed between McKenzie, Knox, Davis, Cook and if Shakir's role might make it tough to count on any of these guys. Don't want to say "helpful" but I can see that behind Diggs, these guys will all be a little hit and miss. The overall volume and explosiveness of the offense though. MMMMmm
Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
| @JonScottTV Isaiah McKenzie returning to practice in red non-contact jersey. Appears the #Bills WR trending in right direction towards getting out of concussion protocol. pic.twitter.com/KQ00mFE2c1 |
| 10/6/22, 12:32 PM |
Truebluey
Footballguy
Wow, great performance from Pierce tonight. Might make my decision easier.
Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
Agree.. good call.
Raging weasel
Footballguy
I have him in 2 leagues as WR 4/5 but Shakir is available in both and debating whether to swap .
Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
Bills' Isaiah McKenzie: Sheds non-contact jersey
BY ROTOWIRE STAFF | ROTOWIRE
37 mins ago
McKenzie, who logged a limited practice session Thursday, remains in concussion protocol, per coach Sean McDermott, Alec White of the Bills' official site reports.
McDermott noted that McKenzie is in a day-by-day process ahead of Sunday's game against the Steelers, though Alaina Getzenberg of ESPN.com relays that the Bills' slot man shed his red (non-contact) jersey at Friday's practice. While that's encouraging, the team's upcoming injury report will add further context with regard to McKenzie's Week 5 status. If he's out or limited this weekend, Khalil Shakir would be in line for added snaps behind top wideouts Stefon Diggs and Gabe Davis.
BY ROTOWIRE STAFF | ROTOWIRE
37 mins ago
McKenzie, who logged a limited practice session Thursday, remains in concussion protocol, per coach Sean McDermott, Alec White of the Bills' official site reports.
McDermott noted that McKenzie is in a day-by-day process ahead of Sunday's game against the Steelers, though Alaina Getzenberg of ESPN.com relays that the Bills' slot man shed his red (non-contact) jersey at Friday's practice. While that's encouraging, the team's upcoming injury report will add further context with regard to McKenzie's Week 5 status. If he's out or limited this weekend, Khalil Shakir would be in line for added snaps behind top wideouts Stefon Diggs and Gabe Davis.
Team Smokin'
Footballguy
Looking like McKenzie is gonna play. Who's in, who's out, who's mulling a WR #3 or Flex start week 6?
Phantom Knight
Footballguy
I foresee fireworks... either flirting with wr2 territory or... another DNF (did not finish) game.
Truebluey
Footballguy
I think he's a decent flex prospect in a potential shootout. Will be very interested to see how they deploy Shakir, though, now that the seal is broken on that genie bottle.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
IMO McKenzie supplants Shakir.
Davis & Diggs go ballistic. McKenzie flirts with WR3. Shakir has 2-3 catches on 3-4 targets.
Best guess. I feel like they trust McKenzie more.
Team Smokin'
Footballguy
When it comes to breaking ties or close calls the general rule of thumb is who's the QB. I am considering pivoting off of Garrett Wilson, who looks legit at WR #3/4 depth and sits on my bench, to Rondale Moore (likely not with Hopkins returning whom I have), DJ Moore (talented but who's throwing him the ball), Isaiah McKenzie, whom is a slot guy, has 3 TD's already and has the best QB in the league. Hmmm... Yes, I love Gabe Davis and Diggs - so many weapons opening the door for McKenzie. I'm trying to talk myself into this. Perhaps his concussion scared away takers. He's good to go now on a high-powered scoring offense. DJ Moore is likely higher ranked for the ROS, but I'm liking BUF. I've used 4 of 5 player adds and wouldn't have any more in case of a freak injury to a QB, lone TE, or kicker. Then I say wait till Sunday, but that might be too late. Roll the dice now or play it safe.
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you would probably be incorrect.
Allen trusts Shakir just fine.
Usage will depend on deployment of speed and coverages deployed.
Shakir likely gets the nod against zone coverage
McKenzie's speed will be used on jet sweeps and against press man situations.
Team Smokin'
Footballguy
I can see them working in Shakir as well. Who would you rather have at this point moving forward on your team. McKenzie or Shakir? McKenzie has got to be the nod > Shakir. Both perhaps rosterable.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
When both have been healthy, McKenzie has been used more, but go on…
McKenzie "had" been used more prior to missing last week, but that was expected early in the season. Shakir looked really good last week and seems like a better pure reciever than McKenzie. If you have the space to roster Shakir, I would do it. I think he wins the job my midseason and in that offense, will be really valuable. Just a more talented player.
Team Smokin'
Footballguy
Fair enough. I've heard the talkin' fantasy heads speaking highly of Shakir's talent. Nice situation for BUF even losing Crowder.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Oh I think Shakir is a good player and I agree he should be rostered.
I was speaking primarily to this week, with the return of McKenzie. Last week without McKenzie he had 5 targets, 3 receptions without McKenzie on the field. I wouldn’t expect more than that with McKenzie out there.
McKenzie also seemingly beat out both Shakir and Crowder for the slot gig preseason, so clearly the Bills like something about him in that role.
Also worth noting, when Davis missed time, it was Jake Kumerow who benefitted on the outside, and not Shakir. So unlikely he eats into either Davis or Diggs numbers.
Only so many targets to go around. It’s tempting to start all BUF receivers in this one, but Shakir seems like the riskiest.
I could see rolling the dice if someone doesn’t have a better option. But yes, ROS definitely roster Shakir where available.
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I like Shakir, and yes - people are high on him for dynasty.
See my thoughts in the post directly above this one. I wasn’t speaking to ROS, just this week against KC.
Grigs Allmoon
Footballguy
IMO, there will be no "winning that position". They bring different abilities to the game plan. They'll split time from here on out. And, knowing how McD handles rookies, I wouldn't be surprised at all if McKenzie gets more touches by a decent bit.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
That’s my belief as well. I used the word “trust” but you put it better - I was reflecting on Davis’ limited use his 1st two seasons.
Agree it’s a split ROS, and totally agree that if health isn’t a factor, it’s likely 70-30 McKenzie. Maybe even 80-20.
Maybe, but I think the pure talent will win out as Shakir gets more playing time in the offense. McKenzie has been in the league since 2017. If he is a good WR, he hasn't shown it yet. A gadget type player IMO. McKenzie won't go away but I think Shakir gets the bigger piece of the pie sooner than later
Shakir is a solid dynasty hold and really good WR handcuff/insurance as he has versatility to play multiple positions so if any of the top 3 go down he'd likely slide into that spot.
I do not think, at all, that he will be supplanting a healthy McKenzie at any time this season. This team has never been in a hurry to move young skill position players into feature roles. We see Cook's slow development, took Gabe about 2 years to get more of a full time role even going as far as to sign Sanders last off-season.
I do not think, at all, that he will be supplanting a healthy McKenzie at any time this season. This team has never been in a hurry to move young skill position players into feature roles. We see Cook's slow development, took Gabe about 2 years to get more of a full time role even going as far as to sign Sanders last off-season.
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Banger
Footballguy
I don't know...you see situations all the time where the starter goes down, backup comes in and does great, starter comes back and continues on like usual (Herbert comes to mind). I have a couple chips on McKenzie more in the event of any injury to Davis/Diggs as he could be a game changer then. Right now I think he's a decent flex play in shootout games like this weekend. I don't really see the Bills scheming or caring that much about the WR3/4 battle...if it ain't broke, don't fix it and right now it's not broke.
The Frankman
Footballguy
Jacob's Ladder
Footballguy
Was this guy still concussed or on the take? Looked worse than Samuel on TNF and that's saying something.
could be a lot sooner after that performance by McKenzie yesterday.
not like the rookie could do any worse
Jacob's Ladder
Footballguy
Shakir has looked good. His role will only expand. With an injury to Diggs or Gabriel his value would explode.
The Frankman
Footballguy
Drake Hater
Footballguy
Acquisition of Hines has to hurt the potential here ROS.
Drake Hater
Footballguy
Lol, big nope.
Boston
Footballguy
The thought process was there...the fact they have barely played Hines was what was not expected.
What took them so long? Shakir should have been in the slot last year.
opensourcebeer
Footballguy
I thought Shakir looked fantastic in the preseason. I feel like he made the most of his opportunities last year - he looked the part.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Shakir looked talented but inexperienced in the playoffs. Some really nice plays, some bad drops. He definitely has potential.
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Fire up your Shakir's.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Hoping my Niners pick him up. We can use the KR/PR aspect, and I’m sure Shanny can scheme some runs and gadget plays for him.
Writing was on the wall in BUF when they brought in Methuselah Beasley.
Writing was on the wall in BUF when they brought in Methuselah Beasley.
Prefer Ray Ray McCloud in that role
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Why not both.gif
