TampaMike19
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WR Jahan Dotson, PHI (1 Viewer)
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Stuart Ullman
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Drafted him late in one dynasty. Might sell high. This was against the Jags afterall...
He went from an afterthought to people writing articles about him having a special season in under 24 hours.
He went from an afterthought to people writing articles about him having a special season in under 24 hours.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I've never seen almost the entire redraft, best ball and dynasty world so deeply look past a WR taken in the middle of the 1st round before. Then all he did in camp was from day 1 lock down the WR2 role on the team. Still it was crickets. I think that's on the community more than on Jahan.
rockaction
Footballguy
Jahan is 5'11". That's the only reason the dynasty community slept on him other than his undergraduate stats and that he was a fifth-year senior. Other than that, there was no reason to be down on him. None. I passed on him for Isaiah Spiller back in May, and Lord, and if I had been able to catch camp reports...
woulda been on my club.
woulda been on my club.
rockaction
Footballguy
People weren't really discounting Jahan, either. They're distrusting the Commanders draft process, which kind of deserves contempt. It's just like Chicago and Velus Jones. You can't expect entire communities to place faith in your expertise when you've drafted Dwayne Haskins and Jamin Davis in the first rounds of drafts.
So that is fair that the community sort of held their own hands about the pick.
So that is fair that the community sort of held their own hands about the pick.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Guy had the worse QB in college. Even Carson Wentz was a huge upgrade.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
My excuse (in May) was that I thought McLaurin's presence made it a bad landing spot. I think a lot of people had the same take along with general disdain for the Commanders.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I get that he was "overdrafted" because mock drafts had him late first or early second. So he went 10-20 picks earlier than expected. Funny how that makes people more dismissive of him instead of more interested. Also, what is wrong with being 5'11"?
And I am not trying act like I know it all. I wasn't aggressive with him for redraft and he also could have had the best game of his career. It just seems like a case of mass delusion where everyone decided to pretend he wasn't the 16th pick in the NFL draft.
And I am not trying act like I know it all. I wasn't aggressive with him for redraft and he also could have had the best game of his career. It just seems like a case of mass delusion where everyone decided to pretend he wasn't the 16th pick in the NFL draft.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I kind of liked the landing spot since McLaurin was coming to the end of his deal and it wasn't clear at that point if Washington was willing to commit a lot of money to him. I thought they could have seen Jahan as the McLaurin replacement. I do agree landing in Washington isn't great for anyone though.
Dotson was a 4-star recruit in the 2018 Penn State recruiting class. Not sure the math makes him a fifth-year senior.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Yeah he was just a regular senior.
TripItUp
Footballguy
will be interesting to see if he can garner the targets with Samuel and Mclaurin. Everything else is there for him to be a star from what I've seen.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
It’s because we saw all the fantasy rookie rankings pre-draft so we all “knew” he shouldn’t be going that early. I took him at 1.10 or 1.11 in one league but will admit I didn’t feel great about it. The NFL draft is mostly an efficient market, and it’s best we learn that.
Tanner9919
Footballguy
it's one game , but he looks pretty good so far. lots of mouths to fees in this offense which should cap his target and rec total.
Stuart Ullman
Footballguy
Great to see him getting targets on ISO coverage. I assume the coverage is rolled to McLaurin and our cat feasted on Jacksonville's 2nd/3rd string DB.
Tough contested catches.
rockaction
Footballguy
Thank you. I misspoke. I meant that he wasn't an early declare, which people look for in the fantasy dynasty community.
But not a fifth-year, which I made him out to be.
Another thing that was riding against him was that he skipped the Senior Bowl, which shocked all of the devy guys in the fantasy industry. Or I should say it shocked Ray G Que and his cohorts, who expected a big Senior Bowl performance from him. Apparently he was right to skip the exhibition.
LittlePhatty
Footballguy
Two solid weeks to start his NFL career. Passes the eye test. Sure he will have down weeks, but I'm happy to have him on my dynasty team.
-jb-
Footballguy
That TD pass from wentz was so bad. Great catch.
OU#1
Footballguy
Kid looks good! He fell in my lap in FAAB last week for 10.5% budget, and I’ll prob put him in for Evans this week. Let’s go! Choo choo!!
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
He remains very TD dependent so far, but I can't imagine him not taking over Samuel as the #2 before the halfway mark of the season.
Idk if he'll take over Terry anytime soon though. Draft capital talks, but so does a $71M contract extension they just signed McLaurin to.
Idk if he'll take over Terry anytime soon though. Draft capital talks, but so does a $71M contract extension they just signed McLaurin to.
What is odd is the snap count between those 3 is upside down from the target count.
Snaps:
1. Dotson
2. Terry
3. Samuel
Targets:
1. Samuel
2. Terry
3. Dotson
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
I'd go Wilson, Olave, Dotson.
But that depends if Winston is the guy throwing Olave the ball. After this past week, it seems he has the #2 WR job locked down.
Chaka
Footballguy
I'm not sure I read that at all. After week one we would have thought Landry was 1a or 1b.
I think, without Kamara in the lineup against a tough defense Sunday's game script may not be predictive of RoS opportunities.
Throw in four fractured vertebrae for Winston, whatever that implies, and I would put Olave at the bottom of that list.
Nothing to do with talent, mind you, I just see NO as a lower volume passing offense with suspect QB play. Washington is 3rd in attempts and 2nd in yards and NO is 13th & 18th. Obviously it's early and we can't know for sure that's how it will play out RoS.
Wilson is tough to predict RoS because of the imminent QB change. If we knew Flacco was going to be the QB I'd have Wilson at the top no questions asked. I still have him over Dotson & Olave ATM but there are some questions.
Wilson
Dotson
Olave
Weebs210
Footballguy
Wilson will eat with either qb
bostonfred
Footballguy
Wilson and Elijah are both outstanding. They'll both get targets. People excited about Wilson's usage will be frustrated when Moore gets more use.
Dotson is a stud too. His td rate will go down, obviously, but his targets should go up.
Olave got 13 targets in one game! Wilson got 14! We're understandably excited about their production but per target numbers favor Dotson
Dotson 10 targets, 7/99/3
Wilson 22 targets, 12/154/2
Olave 16 targets, 8/121/0 (and a fumble)
Dotson 70% catch rate, 9.9 yards per target
Wilson 55% catch rate, 7.0
Olave 50% catch rate, 7.5
That's the order I've got them ranked. They're all good players, they've all got mediocre qbs and competition for targets, but Dotson is more productive on his targets and should see an increase in usage as a result.
Dotson is a stud too. His td rate will go down, obviously, but his targets should go up.
Olave got 13 targets in one game! Wilson got 14! We're understandably excited about their production but per target numbers favor Dotson
Dotson 10 targets, 7/99/3
Wilson 22 targets, 12/154/2
Olave 16 targets, 8/121/0 (and a fumble)
Dotson 70% catch rate, 9.9 yards per target
Wilson 55% catch rate, 7.0
Olave 50% catch rate, 7.5
That's the order I've got them ranked. They're all good players, they've all got mediocre qbs and competition for targets, but Dotson is more productive on his targets and should see an increase in usage as a result.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Garrett is available in one league I'm in. I don't expect to bid enough to get him.
Competition and return of Zach is why I'm not going all in on him. I think the Jets will be in the market for a new QB in 2023. Zach has looked nothing but completely overwhelmed. Takes a lot for a team to move on after 2 years of this high a pick, but I could see it here. The team is ready to compete on offense right now at the skill spots.
Edit: If Flacco keeps the job (for whatever reason), I would be much higher on Garrett Wilson. (as am with any Jets skill position player)
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For 2022, I have Olave ranked #1, Docton #2, Wilson #3 (presuming Zach returns in a week or two / If Flacco remains, good argument for Garrett #1 though I'd still keep Olave #1 as seem he's a great fit with WInston as long as Winston is healthy/starting)
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
This season?
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
The OC, Norv Turner’s son, was kinda asked about this and gave a fairly transparent answer. They believe in McLaurin and Dotson’s ability to win outright, so to open things up Samuel is the guy they scheme plays for. The way I said it sounds like an insult but it’s not how he said it, I just don’t feel like going to find it—essentially it was some version of, this is the guy our passing game is built around, because we believe in those other guys so much to just go get open.
The Frankman
Footballguy
Drake Hater
Footballguy
Non Dynasty half PPR and Dotson is available. Worth it to drop a dead zone RB (Penny/Gordon/Stevenson) for him for flex consideration? Commanders at least have an offense whereas Denver, Seattle and NE struggle.
Brunell4MVP
Footballguy
Commanders always have 20+ players hurt each year. None of them fight through injuries unless it's a contract year because the team sucks. It's a culture thing. I wouldn't expect him back any time soon.
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
So now with Wentz out for a while, what are we thinking of Dotson in redraft? I'm going to have to drop someone for a bye-week QB this week and it'll have to be a WR.
Here are my WRs (start 3 plus a flex):
Chase
Adams
ARSB
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Olave
Pierce
Dotson
Leaning towards dumping Dotson over Pierce. What say you all?
Here are my WRs (start 3 plus a flex):
Chase
Adams
ARSB
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Olave
Pierce
Dotson
Leaning towards dumping Dotson over Pierce. What say you all?
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Yes
