Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums
This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!
WR Jakobi Meyers, LV (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter JoeSteeler
- Start date
Deamon
Footballguy
I'd say 4th max
I think Bech would slide into Myers role
I am interested in him getting traded to Pittsburgh
He's asking for a raise.
The Scary Terry deal basically continued the trend of resetting the entire WR1 market.
You look at some of those names that are making 20 mil range. Jakobi has a pretty good case that he should be making the same as those veterans.
Slayton, Bateman, Mooney, Shakir, Kupp, Jeudy, Deebo, Kirk, Diggs all making more than him. That's terrible.
The Scary Terry deal basically continued the trend of resetting the entire WR1 market.
You look at some of those names that are making 20 mil range. Jakobi has a pretty good case that he should be making the same as those veterans.
Slayton, Bateman, Mooney, Shakir, Kupp, Jeudy, Deebo, Kirk, Diggs all making more than him. That's terrible.
LawFitz
Footballguy
Where did you hear this?
ETA: being reported as contract negotiation breakdown on NFL.com... Jacobi deserves to be paid more than $11 MM per. He's 29 this year. Something on the order of two years of guarantees at ~$15-18 MM per seems more fair. I hope they can get it done, rather than trading him.
"NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport reports Raiders WR Jakobi Meyers requested a trade amidst new contract negotiations.
Rapsheet notes that Meyers recently requested a trade while the two sides were negotiating a new contract, which was denied by the team. “The team, citing his value, said they had not plans (to trade him),” Rapoport adds. The two sides attempted to negotiate a new contract but were unable to come to terms, leaving the veteran wide receiver to play out the final year of his three-year, $33 million contract with the Raiders in 2025."
RenegadeRoy
Footballguy
WHAT YEAR IS IT?!
I have him in a couple leagues.
He got the work last year but did very little with it.
He's young enough that I could keep him.
Not a guru person- I didn't think he got looked at so often when I did catch the Raiders.
I don't believe he's in sleepers ADP list or at least where he'd be seen. There was something about him at that site I noticed
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
Cooper lost his burst about 3 yrs ago, not going to mean much to the Meyers contract
massraider
Footballguy
That's just not true at all. Cooper had career highs in yards and yards per catch in 2023.
I think Meyers #1 (really #2 behind Bowers) job could absolutely be in danger.
rockaction
Footballguy
I mean, if they want to lose it is. Guy can't run with Jakobi. At all.
massraider
Footballguy
It has meaning in that, if we are wondering if the team could actually trade him, this is what I would call a CLUE.
I am not currently of the thinking that McLaurin signing AND the late-in-camp trade demand AND the signing of Amari within hours of each other are unrelated incidents.
Team X is looking at McLaurin for a trade, WAS coughs up the money, suddenly Jakobi is more interesting to Team X. Team X calls Meyers' agent and is all, "BOY, THE RAIDERS ARE LUCKY, WISH WE HAD JAKOBI, WE'D PAY A GUY LIKE THAT 20 MILL PER.....'
Agent calls Meyers, and suddenly Meyers demands a trade.
rockaction
Footballguy
I'm with you that there's some sort of solidarity with players going on. Parsons is so over the top I don't think I've seen anything like that in sports. It's not a hold out, it's theatre. Perhaps they ought to save their daily bread this year and give us all a solidarity treat next September. That would get interesting.
I'm gonna disagree on this. Cooper was better than Meyers has ever been in 2022-2023. He got saddled with Watson (which sunk everyone) the first 6 weeks, then got traded and struggled to learn a new playbook on the fly (which almost any WR would, even Davante Adams did for a few weeks, and he's both much better than Cooper, and had 8 years playing with his new QB already) and suffered some nagging injuries.
rockaction
Footballguy
You know, I roster Davante and I'm gonna tell you that I saw Jakobi and Davante on the same field and Jakobi was actually the guy getting more separation and it was consistent and noticeable. His YAC was also better. Right now he's a much better athlete than Cooper regardless of Cooper's unsettled situation which is actually unsettled because he's not quite in the demand he once was because he's lost a step. I'm not saying he's bad or too slow, but he's not where Jakobi is at right now.
Last edited:
Chaka
Footballguy
He did? Averaged 17.4 YPR on 72 receptions in 2023.
candian fantasy guy
Footballguy
Many props to Amari for winning me a championship while costing me another a few seasons ago. He finished red hot alongside Njoku(with Flacco at QB) for the FF playoffs.
With that said, he did not look too great with a Bills team that wanted and needed him to be that guy last season.
Wrong thread ^^
I do have Meyers lots this year, he seemed like an easy upside guy at ADP. This does concern me a bit, although I am hoping Meyers has a safe role still in this offense.
With that said, he did not look too great with a Bills team that wanted and needed him to be that guy last season.
Wrong thread ^^
I do have Meyers lots this year, he seemed like an easy upside guy at ADP. This does concern me a bit, although I am hoping Meyers has a safe role still in this offense.
rockaction
Footballguy
Mike Clay with the absolute not vote of confidence on Twitter. "Hard to expect fantasy relevance after what we saw last season, but I’ll change my mind if Jakobi Meyers is traded (which would shock me)"
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
the team that I could see considering a trade for Meyer would be NE and that 10 mil contract aint working, plus I'm sure LV would ask for something crazy like a 1st or 2nd
rockaction
Footballguy
Yeah, somebody just brought it up in another thread and dismissed it. I have no idea because I don't know what these teams are going for half of the time.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
I completely side with Meyers. He is underpaid and should get more, but roughly 10 days before the season starts is a horrible time to demand a trade. He needs to go Jerry McGuire this season and play out his ****ty contract and earn a better one for next year.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
Do you feel he's over-performed his 34 mil contract?
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Yes.
LawFitz
Footballguy
Niners is my prediction if he gets traded. I have recollection of them approaching the Raiders last offseason for Meyers. (Extreme) need meets opportunity. Hoping the Raiders can get at least a 4th in return after getting swindled out of their 5th rounder for Kinny Two Gloves. Niners then get that pick back a year later when he leaves as a UFA.
RenegadeRoy
Footballguy
I could see a reunion with the Pats. Their WR room is pretty wack.
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
Fire up your Thortons?
skol asylum
Footballguy
Minnesota has been loading up on day 3 picks, has a need, and $30 million in cap space
this is where i land. The kid is very underrated and deserves a new deal/raise
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
The guy signed a deal 2 YEARS AGO!, and it was a short deal so he could get to Free Agency in his prime... sorry but this one just smells of greed. Play out your final year, if you get Tagged then so be it and cash the 30 million dollar Franchise Tag check and become a FA at age 30. that doesn't sound so bad at all.
Drake Hater
Footballguy
McDaniels connection as well. If I remember correctly J McD was Meyers' OC his rookie season and tenure with NE, then brought him to the Raiders.
habsfan
Footballguy
Strictly devil's advocate question but does he feel Cooper has enough left to dent his "play it out season" numbers and hurt his value next year?
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Lol he is greedy because he wants a raise while being under paid. Okay
FarFromHome
Footballguy
I'm always gonna be pro player. Get your money when you can boys. What if Meyers was on his way to practice and noticed an orphanage on fire then saved 10 children. Now say in this act his injuries deemed him unable to play football. The team would reach an injury settlement and waive him. Scratch that. What if he struggled last year and the team decides he ain't worth the money in his contract they gave him? They would just release him. It's a tough business. When a player has leverage, you play that leverage. Now. It's gambling. Id bet Meyers is aware he is gambling. He is pushing his chips in. He is gambling. Having said all that, the timing could have been better. Ha ha
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
and he was barely proved in 2023 when the Raiders signed him for 33 mil... what was he considered then? Overpaid or Underpaid?
As somebody who waited too long last night and drafted Purdy as my QB1, I would love this.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Things were looking so good 4-6 weeks ago in redrafts taking this guy as WR3 in the 8th round or later
Did Jakobi say he wanted to be traded or is this just conjecture
Another thing is LVR has some young WRs that look promising, surprised they signed Cooper right now
Did Jakobi say he wanted to be traded or is this just conjecture
Another thing is LVR has some young WRs that look promising, surprised they signed Cooper right now
TheDirtyWord
Footballguy
The rumor I've heard is Kyle Dugger for Jakobi
Chaka
Footballguy
That's not how NFL contracts work and I'm pretty sure you know that.
And no one wants to play under the franchise tag no matter how much it might look like a sweet payday to people like us who've likely never seen $30 million in one year.
Last edited:
LawFitz
Footballguy
Considering he and they were operating in a freely open market of 32 potential bidders, I would say fairly paid.
If it were common practice for NFL teams to fully guarantee contracts, I'd be with you. But they don't. And had Jacobi dog watered the last two years, he'd be making an adjusted salary based on that dog water, probably on another team. Instead he outperformed, and it's become common place for players who outperform to demand adjustments when the guaranteed portions of their deals run out - especially when going into the final year of deals. This is the NFL's doing - guarantee the contracts if you don't like it.
As suggested upthread Jacobi deserves a raise and is justified in angling for one. The timing is terrible if he just asked for it, but I strongly suspect this negotiation has been on for a while and we are just now seeing light on it due to a recent boil over.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
so he's not going to make $33 Million in 3 yrs? I'm confused.
And yes, I get they don't want to be Tagged... but at some point when you start talking about a projected $28 million guaranteed for a yr and THEN he gets a chance to earn a final contract as a Free Agent... I mean thats a lot of money, no offense.. but we're not talking about CeeBee lamb here, but thats a LOT of money for a guy at the talent level of Meyers.
Last edited:
Chaka
Footballguy
I am sure that you are aware that ownership chooses to not honor contracts all the time when players underperform contracts. Do you advocate for owners to honor the contracts like you are doing with Jakobi, here?
Asking for bumps for overperforming is baked into the equation of NFL contracts.
As I said, I am certain you know this.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
I think we are done here. No matter what I say you are going to move thr goal posts to something that tries to fit your narrative.
Meyers probably hates puppies, and apple pie.
Fact is he is underpaid, most teams that want to keep a player that has out performed their deal do it when they are going into the last season. NFL contracts aren't fully guaranteed and usually going into the last year there isn't a lot of guarantees left, all the risk is on the player and he wants to ge fairly paid.
LawFitz
Footballguy
Good. Eff that team. The Raiders should only deal him if they get a fair or better offer. He's under contract for 2025, and while I would prefer they bump his pay and gaurantee the next two years, if he wants something absurd, then let him play it out. Jacobi requested a trade, he didn't demand it. The trade deadline is still a ways away. No need to rush into anything.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
I don't blame the team. Always try to see if the Raiders panic, but this shouldn't be that difficult. Add a couple of million in guarantees this year and a another couple in incentives that are reasonable. Last year is worth 16ish million and both sides should be okay with it.
LawFitz
Footballguy
I was onboard with this range after the TMC contract, and still would be good with it, if for two years and it would make Jakobi feel good and appreciated.
BUT, as another reference point, two-years-older Amari Cooper just signed for $3.5 MM with incentives up to $6 MM. And here's comparison of their respective numbers over the most recent years...
