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WR Jakobi Meyers, LV (1 Viewer)

I completely side with Meyers. He is underpaid and should get more, but roughly 10 days before the season starts is a horrible time to demand a trade. He needs to go Jerry McGuire this season and play out his ****ty contract and earn a better one for next year.
Do you feel he's over-performed his 34 mil contract?

Yes.

The guy signed a deal 2 YEARS AGO!, and it was a short deal so he could get to Free Agency in his prime... sorry but this one just smells of greed. Play out your final year, if you get Tagged then so be it and cash the 30 million dollar Franchise Tag check and become a FA at age 30. that doesn't sound so bad at all.
That's not how NFL contracts work and I'm pretty sure you know that.

And no one wants to play under the franchise tag no matter how much it might look like. A sweet payday to people like us who've likely never seen $30 million in one year.

so he's not going to make $33 Million in 3 yrs? I'm confused.

And yes, I get they don't want to be Tagged... but at some point when you start talking about a projected $28 million guaranteed for a yr and THEN he gets a chance to earn a final contract as a Free Agent... I mean thats a lot of money, no offense.. but we're not talking about CeeBee lamb here, but thats a LOT of money for a guy at the talent level of Meyers.
The going rate for productive WR1’s is $30M a year. Not $11M. With the lack of guaranteed money in the last year of most contracts and the risk of injury he has every right to get his bag now. That’s the way it’s done. You don’t wait for contracts with expiring guaranteed money to end before signing a new deal
 
I completely side with Meyers. He is underpaid and should get more, but roughly 10 days before the season starts is a horrible time to demand a trade. He needs to go Jerry McGuire this season and play out his ****ty contract and earn a better one for next year.
Do you feel he's over-performed his 34 mil contract?

Yes.

The guy signed a deal 2 YEARS AGO!, and it was a short deal so he could get to Free Agency in his prime... sorry but this one just smells of greed. Play out your final year, if you get Tagged then so be it and cash the 30 million dollar Franchise Tag check and become a FA at age 30. that doesn't sound so bad at all.
That's not how NFL contracts work and I'm pretty sure you know that.

And no one wants to play under the franchise tag no matter how much it might look like. A sweet payday to people like us who've likely never seen $30 million in one year.

so he's not going to make $33 Million in 3 yrs? I'm confused.

And yes, I get they don't want to be Tagged... but at some point when you start talking about a projected $28 million guaranteed for a yr and THEN he gets a chance to earn a final contract as a Free Agent... I mean thats a lot of money, no offense.. but we're not talking about CeeBee lamb here, but thats a LOT of money for a guy at the talent level of Meyers.
The going rate for productive WR1’s is $30M a year. Not $11M. With the lack of guaranteed money in the last year of most contracts and the risk of injury he has every right to get his bag now. That’s the way it’s done. You don’t wait for contracts with expiring guaranteed money to end before signing a new deal
I'm certain KH knows that.
 
I completely side with Meyers. He is underpaid and should get more, but roughly 10 days before the season starts is a horrible time to demand a trade. He needs to go Jerry McGuire this season and play out his ****ty contract and earn a better one for next year.
Do you feel he's over-performed his 34 mil contract?

Yes.

The guy signed a deal 2 YEARS AGO!, and it was a short deal so he could get to Free Agency in his prime... sorry but this one just smells of greed. Play out your final year, if you get Tagged then so be it and cash the 30 million dollar Franchise Tag check and become a FA at age 30. that doesn't sound so bad at all.
That's not how NFL contracts work and I'm pretty sure you know that.

And no one wants to play under the franchise tag no matter how much it might look like. A sweet payday to people like us who've likely never seen $30 million in one year.

so he's not going to make $33 Million in 3 yrs? I'm confused.

And yes, I get they don't want to be Tagged... but at some point when you start talking about a projected $28 million guaranteed for a yr and THEN he gets a chance to earn a final contract as a Free Agent... I mean thats a lot of money, no offense.. but we're not talking about CeeBee lamb here, but thats a LOT of money for a guy at the talent level of Meyers.
The going rate for productive WR1’s is $30M a year. Not $11M. With the lack of guaranteed money in the last year of most contracts and the risk of injury he has every right to get his bag now. That’s the way it’s done. You don’t wait for contracts with expiring guaranteed money to end before signing a new deal
I'm certain KH knows that.
you guys are pitching me softballs here
Please define "productive" and what an NFL WR1 is

Meyers signed in 2023 for $33 mil after a so/so career start in New England, being that D Adams was still on the Raiders that yr I do feel that yr 1 of that $33M was an Overpaid
2024 Adams left about a quarter of the way through the season making Meyers defector WR1 during the rest of the season but still barely broke 1,000 years, and in actually Bowers become the #1 receiving option.
Now its yr 3/final yr of his deal at $11M a yr; what has he done to say he deserves more? Bowers and Jeanty are the focal point of the offense. This isn't the team that drafted him and asked him to shut up and color like Washington did with Terry; this is the team he went to in Free Agency 2 yrs ago, gave him a short term deal so he could cash out again in his prime and so far he's only given them 1,800 yards an a couple of TDs.
 
I completely side with Meyers. He is underpaid and should get more, but roughly 10 days before the season starts is a horrible time to demand a trade. He needs to go Jerry McGuire this season and play out his ****ty contract and earn a better one for next year.
Do you feel he's over-performed his 34 mil contract?

Yes.

The guy signed a deal 2 YEARS AGO!, and it was a short deal so he could get to Free Agency in his prime... sorry but this one just smells of greed. Play out your final year, if you get Tagged then so be it and cash the 30 million dollar Franchise Tag check and become a FA at age 30. that doesn't sound so bad at all.
That's not how NFL contracts work and I'm pretty sure you know that.

And no one wants to play under the franchise tag no matter how much it might look like. A sweet payday to people like us who've likely never seen $30 million in one year.

so he's not going to make $33 Million in 3 yrs? I'm confused.

And yes, I get they don't want to be Tagged... but at some point when you start talking about a projected $28 million guaranteed for a yr and THEN he gets a chance to earn a final contract as a Free Agent... I mean thats a lot of money, no offense.. but we're not talking about CeeBee lamb here, but thats a LOT of money for a guy at the talent level of Meyers.
The going rate for productive WR1’s is $30M a year. Not $11M. With the lack of guaranteed money in the last year of most contracts and the risk of injury he has every right to get his bag now. That’s the way it’s done. You don’t wait for contracts with expiring guaranteed money to end before signing a new deal
I'm certain KH knows that.
you guys are pitching me softballs here
Please define "productive" and what an NFL WR1 is

Meyers signed in 2023 for $33 mil after a so/so career start in New England, being that D Adams was still on the Raiders that yr I do feel that yr 1 of that $33M was an Overpaid
2024 Adams left about a quarter of the way through the season making Meyers defector WR1 during the rest of the season but still barely broke 1,000 years, and in actually Bowers become the #1 receiving option.
Now its yr 3/final yr of his deal at $11M a yr; what has he done to say he deserves more? Bowers and Jeanty are the focal point of the offense. This isn't the team that drafted him and asked him to shut up and color like Washington did with Terry; this is the team he went to in Free Agency 2 yrs ago, gave him a short term deal so he could cash out again in his prime and so far he's only given them 1,800 yards an a couple of TDs.
22% and 25%. That's the % of Raiders receiving yards he has had in his 2 seasons with the team. Those are good numbers. So while the raw yardage isn't eye popping, a large part of that is the trash QB play. There is only so much anyone can with Jimmy G and Aidan O'Connell at QB. Meyers is definitely not a WR1 but he's a good WR2 to pair with Adams or now Bowers. I doubt he's asking for a boatload of money, he's just saying you guys committed to me your WR1 for the year, I am going to get a ton of targets and be a key to the team and I want a commitment beyond this year. No player wants to play a season with no future guaranteed money. Especially at his age and lack of name value. He tears his ACL in November and he might never make another dollar in football again.
 
I completely side with Meyers. He is underpaid and should get more, but roughly 10 days before the season starts is a horrible time to demand a trade. He needs to go Jerry McGuire this season and play out his ****ty contract and earn a better one for next year.
Do you feel he's over-performed his 34 mil contract?

Yes.

The guy signed a deal 2 YEARS AGO!, and it was a short deal so he could get to Free Agency in his prime... sorry but this one just smells of greed. Play out your final year, if you get Tagged then so be it and cash the 30 million dollar Franchise Tag check and become a FA at age 30. that doesn't sound so bad at all.
That's not how NFL contracts work and I'm pretty sure you know that.

And no one wants to play under the franchise tag no matter how much it might look like. A sweet payday to people like us who've likely never seen $30 million in one year.

so he's not going to make $33 Million in 3 yrs? I'm confused.

And yes, I get they don't want to be Tagged... but at some point when you start talking about a projected $28 million guaranteed for a yr and THEN he gets a chance to earn a final contract as a Free Agent... I mean thats a lot of money, no offense.. but we're not talking about CeeBee lamb here, but thats a LOT of money for a guy at the talent level of Meyers.
The going rate for productive WR1’s is $30M a year. Not $11M. With the lack of guaranteed money in the last year of most contracts and the risk of injury he has every right to get his bag now. That’s the way it’s done. You don’t wait for contracts with expiring guaranteed money to end before signing a new deal
I'm certain KH knows that.
you guys are pitching me softballs here
Please define "productive" and what an NFL WR1 is

Meyers signed in 2023 for $33 mil after a so/so career start in New England, being that D Adams was still on the Raiders that yr I do feel that yr 1 of that $33M was an Overpaid
2024 Adams left about a quarter of the way through the season making Meyers defector WR1 during the rest of the season but still barely broke 1,000 years, and in actually Bowers become the #1 receiving option.
Now its yr 3/final yr of his deal at $11M a yr; what has he done to say he deserves more? Bowers and Jeanty are the focal point of the offense. This isn't the team that drafted him and asked him to shut up and color like Washington did with Terry; this is the team he went to in Free Agency 2 yrs ago, gave him a short term deal so he could cash out again in his prime and so far he's only given them 1,800 yards an a couple of TDs.

What dumb arguments. He had 1000 yards in 15 games. Just because he isn't a wide receiver one and doesn't mean he didn't out produce an 11 million dollar a year deal. When he signed his deal means nothing, he is in the last year, when deals typically get redone.

Guys like Josh Palmer just got 10 million, Christian makes more than him. He isn't a 30 million dollar year wr, but he isn't 11 million.
 
I completely side with Meyers. He is underpaid and should get more, but roughly 10 days before the season starts is a horrible time to demand a trade. He needs to go Jerry McGuire this season and play out his ****ty contract and earn a better one for next year.
Do you feel he's over-performed his 34 mil contract?

Yes.

The guy signed a deal 2 YEARS AGO!, and it was a short deal so he could get to Free Agency in his prime... sorry but this one just smells of greed. Play out your final year, if you get Tagged then so be it and cash the 30 million dollar Franchise Tag check and become a FA at age 30. that doesn't sound so bad at all.
That's not how NFL contracts work and I'm pretty sure you know that.

And no one wants to play under the franchise tag no matter how much it might look like. A sweet payday to people like us who've likely never seen $30 million in one year.

so he's not going to make $33 Million in 3 yrs? I'm confused.

And yes, I get they don't want to be Tagged... but at some point when you start talking about a projected $28 million guaranteed for a yr and THEN he gets a chance to earn a final contract as a Free Agent... I mean thats a lot of money, no offense.. but we're not talking about CeeBee lamb here, but thats a LOT of money for a guy at the talent level of Meyers.
The going rate for productive WR1’s is $30M a year. Not $11M. With the lack of guaranteed money in the last year of most contracts and the risk of injury he has every right to get his bag now. That’s the way it’s done. You don’t wait for contracts with expiring guaranteed money to end before signing a new deal
I'm certain KH knows that.
you guys are pitching me softballs here
Please define "productive" and what an NFL WR1 is

Meyers signed in 2023 for $33 mil after a so/so career start in New England, being that D Adams was still on the Raiders that yr I do feel that yr 1 of that $33M was an Overpaid
2024 Adams left about a quarter of the way through the season making Meyers defector WR1 during the rest of the season but still barely broke 1,000 years, and in actually Bowers become the #1 receiving option.
Now its yr 3/final yr of his deal at $11M a yr; what has he done to say he deserves more? Bowers and Jeanty are the focal point of the offense. This isn't the team that drafted him and asked him to shut up and color like Washington did with Terry; this is the team he went to in Free Agency 2 yrs ago, gave him a short term deal so he could cash out again in his prime and so far he's only given them 1,800 yards an a couple of TDs.
He was WR 12 in receptions last year with Adams there for 6 weeks, Bowers beasting out (only 1 more TD) and having Minshew/O'Connell as his QBs. He was substatially better than DK Metcalf, among other top names WRs, IRL and fantasy last year. DK just scored something like $30 million a year? Jakobi's underpaid but probably doesn't have much leverage since, much like experts in the FF community, nobody thinks he's actually a really good WR.
 
Last year, Meyers outproduced the next best WR on the team by:

59% in targets
85% in receptions
91% in receiving yards
33% in TDs

I don’t know about anyone else, but in my opinion that qualifies him as LV’s WR1.

Now, does he qualify for top 10 WR money because of that? I’m pretty sure no one is arguing that. But a bump in pay up to $20M annually +/- for a guy as reliable and productive as he is, and knowing he loves doing the dirty work like blocking and is damned good at it, that seems like a pretty reasonable ask.
 
He is a good player and probably should get a bump in pay considering the Raiders are clearly not looking at this season as a reboot and want to be competitive. That said, requesting a trade a week before the season starts is probably not the best way to go about trying to get a raise. If nothing else, it's bad optics. I'm a perpetual optimist, but with Meyers and Cooper, Bowers and the young WR group, the offense has a chance to be very good as a real passing threat should make life much easier for Jeanty to eat.

I don't think Vegas will give in and trade him or rework his deal this late in the day. Hopefully, he stays and has another great season, at which time, he gets paid.
 
I completely side with Meyers. He is underpaid and should get more, but roughly 10 days before the season starts is a horrible time to demand a trade. He needs to go Jerry McGuire this season and play out his ****ty contract and earn a better one for next year.
Do you feel he's over-performed his 34 mil contract?

Yes.

The guy signed a deal 2 YEARS AGO!, and it was a short deal so he could get to Free Agency in his prime... sorry but this one just smells of greed. Play out your final year, if you get Tagged then so be it and cash the 30 million dollar Franchise Tag check and become a FA at age 30. that doesn't sound so bad at all.
That's not how NFL contracts work and I'm pretty sure you know that.

And no one wants to play under the franchise tag no matter how much it might look like. A sweet payday to people like us who've likely never seen $30 million in one year.

so he's not going to make $33 Million in 3 yrs? I'm confused.

And yes, I get they don't want to be Tagged... but at some point when you start talking about a projected $28 million guaranteed for a yr and THEN he gets a chance to earn a final contract as a Free Agent... I mean thats a lot of money, no offense.. but we're not talking about CeeBee lamb here, but thats a LOT of money for a guy at the talent level of Meyers.
The going rate for productive WR1’s is $30M a year. Not $11M. With the lack of guaranteed money in the last year of most contracts and the risk of injury he has every right to get his bag now. That’s the way it’s done. You don’t wait for contracts with expiring guaranteed money to end before signing a new deal
I'm certain KH knows that.
you guys are pitching me softballs here
Please define "productive" and what an NFL WR1 is

Meyers signed in 2023 for $33 mil after a so/so career start in New England, being that D Adams was still on the Raiders that yr I do feel that yr 1 of that $33M was an Overpaid
2024 Adams left about a quarter of the way through the season making Meyers defector WR1 during the rest of the season but still barely broke 1,000 years, and in actually Bowers become the #1 receiving option.
Now its yr 3/final yr of his deal at $11M a yr; what has he done to say he deserves more? Bowers and Jeanty are the focal point of the offense. This isn't the team that drafted him and asked him to shut up and color like Washington did with Terry; this is the team he went to in Free Agency 2 yrs ago, gave him a short term deal so he could cash out again in his prime and so far he's only given them 1,800 yards an a couple of TDs.

:fishy:
 
I just heard on a podcast that Schefter indicated the trade request could have been misconstrued. Rather, a team maybe checked in with the Raiders about trading for him and LV wasn’t interested. He supposedly said this on the McAfee show.
 
I just heard on a podcast that Schefter indicated the trade request could have been misconstrued. Rather, a team maybe checked in with the Raiders about trading for him and LV wasn’t interested. He supposedly said this on the McAfee show.
lol. Such is the internet age of “reporting”
 
He is a good player and probably should get a bump in pay considering the Raiders are clearly not looking at this season as a reboot and want to be competitive. That said, requesting a trade a week before the season starts is probably not the best way to go about trying to get a raise. If nothing else, it's bad optics. I'm a perpetual optimist, but with Meyers and Cooper, Bowers and the young WR group, the offense has a chance to be very good as a real passing threat should make life much easier for Jeanty to eat.

I don't think Vegas will give in and trade him or rework his deal this late in the day. Hopefully, he stays and has another great season, at which time, he gets paid.

Being a Raider fan, have you heard anything about the talks between Meyers’ team and the Raiders’ management?

I know the timing looks awful, but for all we know - and I’m not saying this is what happened - the Raiders may have been making him promises of a new contract for 6 months and everytime it was supposed to be drawn up they reneged to the point where Meyers felt he had no other choice. Or management kept pushing talks off with platitudes that they’d take care of him and then tried to run out the clock to the season. There could be all sorts of reasons why the Meyers’ team finally are making a trade demand.

It could just as easily be entirely Meyers’ team responsibility as an underhanded ploy to twist the Raiders’ arm. I’m guessing it may be somewhere in between, but this may not all be on Meyers as far as the timing. And then again, it may be.
 
I completely side with Meyers. He is underpaid and should get more, but roughly 10 days before the season starts is a horrible time to demand a trade. He needs to go Jerry McGuire this season and play out his ****ty contract and earn a better one for next year.
Do you feel he's over-performed his 34 mil contract?

Yes.

The guy signed a deal 2 YEARS AGO!, and it was a short deal so he could get to Free Agency in his prime... sorry but this one just smells of greed. Play out your final year, if you get Tagged then so be it and cash the 30 million dollar Franchise Tag check and become a FA at age 30. that doesn't sound so bad at all.
That's not how NFL contracts work and I'm pretty sure you know that.

And no one wants to play under the franchise tag no matter how much it might look like. A sweet payday to people like us who've likely never seen $30 million in one year.

so he's not going to make $33 Million in 3 yrs? I'm confused.

And yes, I get they don't want to be Tagged... but at some point when you start talking about a projected $28 million guaranteed for a yr and THEN he gets a chance to earn a final contract as a Free Agent... I mean thats a lot of money, no offense.. but we're not talking about CeeBee lamb here, but thats a LOT of money for a guy at the talent level of Meyers.
The going rate for productive WR1’s is $30M a year. Not $11M. With the lack of guaranteed money in the last year of most contracts and the risk of injury he has every right to get his bag now. That’s the way it’s done. You don’t wait for contracts with expiring guaranteed money to end before signing a new deal
I'm certain KH knows that.
you guys are pitching me softballs here
Please define "productive" and what an NFL WR1 is

Meyers signed in 2023 for $33 mil after a so/so career start in New England, being that D Adams was still on the Raiders that yr I do feel that yr 1 of that $33M was an Overpaid
2024 Adams left about a quarter of the way through the season making Meyers defector WR1 during the rest of the season but still barely broke 1,000 years, and in actually Bowers become the #1 receiving option.
Now its yr 3/final yr of his deal at $11M a yr; what has he done to say he deserves more? Bowers and Jeanty are the focal point of the offense. This isn't the team that drafted him and asked him to shut up and color like Washington did with Terry; this is the team he went to in Free Agency 2 yrs ago, gave him a short term deal so he could cash out again in his prime and so far he's only given them 1,800 yards an a couple of TDs.
He was WR 12 in receptions last year with Adams there for 6 weeks, Bowers beasting out (only 1 more TD) and having Minshew/O'Connell as his QBs. He was substatially better than DK Metcalf, among other top names WRs, IRL and fantasy last year. DK just scored something like $30 million a year? Jakobi's underpaid but probably doesn't have much leverage since, much like experts in the FF community, nobody thinks he's actually a really good WR.
I mean nothing, but I watched him outplay Davante so badly that experts thought Davante was washed from observing the numbers. Jakobi has been undervalued since free agency because his testing sucked. That’s the only reason. LV should find the 10M he’s worth and pay him, and I am rarely on the player’s side and also think WR salaries are stupid right now.

This guy has had no QB (at all) and outplayed a HoF receiver who turned out to be not so washed.
 

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