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WR Jameson Williams, DET (6 Viewers)

Jamesinaz said:
My problem is - do I trust him enough to start him? If I do I have to bench one of J Jefferson (fat chance), London or R Rice. it is an enigma within a conundrum.
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Not much of a "problem." You have bye weeks covered nicely, excellent injury insurance, and someone ready to step in if the Falcons fall flat.

Plus, players on your bench can't score against you. You won't have to face him if he has a big week. I'd say that's an excellent problem to have.
 
You cannot count on the numbers he posted last week when ARSB and La Porta were both below their average production
I think folks are going to be frustrated. He wasn't on a lot of starting rosters last weekend in Redraft leagues
Most took him as a WR 4/5 type, nobody was wheeling him out blindly

Bucs allowed 30 FF to Daniels a rookie QB, that number is misleading as it includes 2 rushing TD, you won't see that from Goff
They held Daniels to under 190 yds passing, if Goff hits 240 this week, cut out a slice for ARSB, La Porta, what projections are you comfortable with vs the Bucs?
 
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Gally said:
Ministry of Pain said:
what projections are you comfortable with vs the Bucs?
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For Williams? I say 6 targets 4 receptions for 90 yds and 50-50 on a TD. Add in 2 carries for 22 yds.
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And what would ARSB and La Porta be projected for?
I think trying to project Jameson on a weekly arc of about 1,500+ yds for the season is a lot
Especially on a team that always prefers to run when they can

I can't see Jameson at almost 100, La Porta 75/TD, ARSB 100 yds, Gibbs 75-100 total yds, they can't all hit this every week is what I'm saying
And btw, I'm not saying you are wrong this week, big game vs the Bucs, Jameson should be a nice part of the game plan, just can't see the high numbers every week
JAMO could be a Sell High right now, or he's a plug n play for some folks, I'm not there just yet
 
Ministry of Pain said:
I can't see Jameson at almost 100, La Porta 75/TD, ARSB 100 yds, Gibbs 75-100 total yds, they can't all hit this every week is what I'm saying
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I agree they can't all hit every week but with the banged up secondary and Dennis and David being good-ish cover LB's I would have LaPorta on the low end of things for this week. I think ARSB bounces back with about 8 or 9 catches for 100 ish yds.
 
[Lions beat write Jeremy Reisman]

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If Jamo really does breakout this year, how does this team spread the targets out?
Do you expect that Laporta or St Brown could see a dip in production?

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No, I don’t. I think there will be plenty of room to feed everyone. St. Brown is still absolutely essential to this team—particularly on third-and-shorts. This team lives on third-and-short because they love to run the ball on early downs, and that makes St. Brown (and Sam LaPorta) essential players.

Jameson Williams simply gives them an explosive options where they lacked one previously. There’s obviously a finite amount of targets to go around, but think of it this way: Williams and Josh Reynolds combined for 64 catches, 964 yards, and seven touchdowns. If Williams just absorbs all of that production, it would still very much be a breakout season with the same opportunities for LaPorta and St. Brown to match their 2023 production.
 
Goff's a smart QB, Ben Johnson looks like a great schemer.

Goff's going to find the open man and in this offense Jameson is going to be open, a lot.

I think it's... incomplete thinking to assume ARSB & LaPorta & Gibbs will unquestionably command the same number of targets as last season. But I see a lot of that talk in their threads and this one.

Ben Johnson came back to win a Super Bowl and if he thinks the best way to do that is have ARSB & LaPorta block down field for Jameson 150 times, you can bet he'll do it. And Dan Campbell will make ARSB & LaPorta feel grateful for the opportunity.
 
I'd like to reiterate that it won't take a super significant or surprising dip in targets to LaPorta and/or the RB corps from game to game, and yes I dare say Amon-Ra the Sun God himself, in order for Jameson to eat. Taking most of the Jeff Reynolds targets isn't the only piece in motion.

Only been one week but LaPorta is the one who gets the biggest chunk taken away IMO. He hit the ceiling last year and Amon-Ra plays at his ceiling already. It really is only natural to expect their numbers to dip (just a little skosh is all) because of what Jamo commands on the field. I also think too much credit is/was being given to the notion that the RBs were going to get more targets.

So yeah just a little mild week 1 victory lap and yes I did have him in some of my redraft lineups with (some) confidence. FWIW I did a lot of avoiding Amon-Ra and LaPorta. And no I don't feel so confident about week 2, especially since they really would be wise to get Amon-Ra and LaPorta more involved, but also because the NFL hasn't seen *much* of him, and especially not a newer version of him if he really had/has taken developmental steps. So moving forward yeah defenses might play quite different. But pick your poison with this offense. If they decide to take him out, Amon-Ra and LaPorta might start getting Cooper Kupp target numbers, so yeah very very curious to see how it looks moving forward now that he has at least flashed big time very early.

There are also at least a couple other flex plays out there that I feel dramatically less confident about this week than last, or put another way, I am *more* confident now that I shouldn't be starting them, and that Jamo is a really easy (and fun) alternative.
 
I have a difficult WR4 decision. I was leaning toward starting Jameson Williams and benching Marvin Harrison Jr and Jayden Reed. Now with Jamo's ankle injury I don't know what to do. Maybe Harrison Jr as his matchup is better. I feel Reed isn't a good choice with Love out.
 
N Zone said:
I have a difficult WR4 decision. I was leaning toward starting Jameson Williams and benching Marvin Harrison Jr and Jayden Reed. Now with Jamo's ankle injury I don't know what to do. Maybe Harrison Jr as his matchup is better. I feel Reed isn't a good choice with Love out.
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I haven't seen anything implying Jamo will sit. Just that he won't get a full load at practice.
 
barackdhouse said:
Only been one week but LaPorta is the one who gets the biggest chunk taken away IMO. He hit the ceiling last year and Amon-Ra plays at his ceiling already. It really is only natural to expect their numbers to dip (just a little skosh is all) because of what Jamo commands on the field
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If you look at the snap count, Jamo was in on 52 of the 61 offensive plays, and LaPorta was in on 48. Jamo looks to be the second target in the pecking order.
 
week 1 routes run (targets) PLAYER production | YPRR | NFL Passer Rating when Targeted
  1. 32 (6) ARSB 3-13-0 | 0.41 | 16.7
  2. 30 (8) Jamo 5-121-1 | 4.03 | 145.8
  3. 26 (5) LaPorta 4-45-0 | 1.73 | 104.2
  4. 23 (0) Raymond
  5. 18 (6) Gibbs 4-34-0 | 1.89 | 81.3
  6. 12 (1) Montgomery 1-2-0 | 0.17 | 79.2
  7. 4 (1) Wright 1-2-0 | 0.50 | 79.2
  8. 4 (0) Kennedy
  9. 2 (0) Hesse
  10. 1 (0) Vaki
 
BobbyLayne said:
week 1 routes run (targets) PLAYER production | YPRR | NFL Passer Rating when Targeted
  1. 32 (6) ARSB 3-13-0 | 0.41 | 16.7
  2. 30 (8) Jamo 5-121-1 | 4.03 | 145.8
  3. 26 (5) LaPorta 4-45-0 | 1.73 | 104.2
  4. 23 (0) Raymond
  5. 18 (6) Gibbs 4-34-0 | 1.89 | 81.3
  6. 12 (1) Montgomery 1-2-0 | 0.17 | 79.2
  7. 4 (1) Wright 1-2-0 | 0.50 | 79.2
  8. 4 (0) Kennedy
  9. 2 (0) Hesse
  10. 1 (0) Vaki
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Pretty evenly distributed (8, 6, 5, 5) among the top 4 recieving weapons, with not much for the rest. That is on only 26 throws, which is 9 throws lower than the Lions averaged last season. Those top 4 will typically see 30-32 targets per game. The distribution will stay pretty even between those 4 with Saint on the high side and Gibbs on the low side. But that leaves about 7 targets a week for Jamo, or 120 targets for the season.
 
Chaka said:
Goff's a smart QB, Ben Johnson looks like a great schemer.

Goff's going to find the open man and in this offense Jameson is going to be open, a lot.

I think it's... incomplete thinking to assume ARSB & LaPorta & Gibbs will unquestionably command the same number of targets as last season. But I see a lot of that talk in their threads and this one.

Ben Johnson came back to win a Super Bowl and if he thinks the best way to do that is have ARSB & LaPorta block down field for Jameson 150 times, you can bet he'll do it. And Dan Campbell will make ARSB & LaPorta feel grateful for the opportunity.
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The biggest hit to ARSB and LaPorta may be that if Jamo absorbs a lot of Reynolds targets from last year, he's going to take them to the house instead of just picking up a first down and extending the drive for more ARSB and LaPorta catches
 
Runkle said:
FantasyMC said:
Lions elevated WR Tom Kennedy and WR Tim Patrick to the active list. Bad sign for Jamo?
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Found elsewhere: "Lions only have 4 WRs on the roster, and 1 of them is Isiah Williams, who is out. So they have to elevate 2 WR this week if they want 5 active like normal."
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UDFA rookie Isaiah Williams was active last week but did not enter the game.

Tom Kennedy was a week 1 practice squad call up. He played 10 snaps, ran 4 routes without seeing a target, and played 6 ST snaps on KR. On and off the team for 6 years, the former professional lacrosse player could see a run/pass option reverse (fr fr he has a good arm) but more likely won’t have his name called upon in any statistically significant way.

Tim Patrick, signed to the practice squad after being cut by the Broncos, has not played a snap since 2021 due to multiple injuries. We can reasonably expect he’ll run a handful of routes.


I would be surprised if Kalif Raymond doesn’t see 3-4 targets. He had a key FD reverse to open OT Week 1 but did not see a target. Both the HC and OC mentioned him in passing this week. May mean nothing, but I think they’ve got a small package in mind for him this week with Antoine Winfield Jr out.

He has 179 targets in 51 G with Detroit since 2021. He’s their WR3 and last week was only the third time in his Lions career he registered 0 targets.


I don’t see any of these players impacting Jamo’s market share.
 
BobbyLayne said:
week 1 routes run (targets) PLAYER production | YPRR | NFL Passer Rating when Targeted
  1. 32 (6) ARSB 3-13-0 | 0.41 | 16.7
  2. 30 (8) Jamo 5-121-1 | 4.03 | 145.8
  3. 26 (5) LaPorta 4-45-0 | 1.73 | 104.2
  4. 23 (0) Raymond
  5. 18 (6) Gibbs 4-34-0 | 1.89 | 81.3
  6. 12 (1) Montgomery 1-2-0 | 0.17 | 79.2
  7. 4 (1) Wright 1-2-0 | 0.50 | 79.2
  8. 4 (0) Kennedy
  9. 2 (0) Hesse
  10. 1 (0) Vaki
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Did Raymond dump a turd in Goff's locker?
 
I am a homer so leaning towards starting McLaurin over Williams in a couple of leagues. If McLaurin doesn't go off at home this weekend against the Giants I'll start Williams over him for the rest of the season.
 
ilianawindfae said:
ffmail4me said:
ilianawindfae said:
ratbast said:
I’m starting Williams over DAdams in non ppr.
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Woah, woah, slowdown egghead!! Adams is going to see double the targets Jamo does this week. Maybe over double.
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Please tell me you intended for that to be Chief Wiggum's voice talking to Professor Frink. If so...you are my hero.
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You nailed it. :ROFLMAO:
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'Here is an ordinary square"..."woah woah slow down egghead!" :lmao:
 
ffmail4me said:
ilianawindfae said:
ffmail4me said:
ilianawindfae said:
ratbast said:
I’m starting Williams over DAdams in non ppr.
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Woah, woah, slowdown egghead!! Adams is going to see double the targets Jamo does this week. Maybe over double.
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Please tell me you intended for that to be Chief Wiggum's voice talking to Professor Frink. If so...you are my hero.
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You nailed it. :ROFLMAO:
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'Here is an ordinary square"..."woah woah slow down egghead!" :lmao:
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:lmao:
 
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