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WR Jaxon Smith-Njigba, SEA (5 Viewers)

rockaction said:
menobrown said:
Not from a fantasy angle but from a real life angle I'm definitely coming across some people who prefer Gibbs.
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Oh, citations needed here.
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You mean the sources? If so Marc Ross, Emory Hunt and MJD.

And I'm not saying I agree or was looking for those opinions. Just came across them while watching NFLN or scrolling my timeline.

I think it's the same principle for why the Raiders took a Ruggs as the first WR. Speed, big play ability. It's what some people prioritize.

Bringing this back to JSN I was listening to ex-GM Randy Mueller on a podcast last week go over his top 5 WR's and he had JSN 5th in this class and it was same principle, he put a higher priority on speed/big play players that defenses fear.
 
rockaction said:
Hot Sauce Guy said:
🚨 We need to stop taking Peter King seriously.
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Peter King's big thing is that he has access to the NFL front offices. Once you realize that and stop treating him as any sort of pundit, then you're okay with listening to Peter King. He's like Adam Schefter, only in longform because his mind is slightly more adroit and he's a better writer who came up in a writing milieu.
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Ok, then Peter King needs to stop predicting stuff because he’s terrible at it.

Better?
 
rockaction said:
I added my own two cents in there because I've long thought what you said.
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All good. And I agree with you as well - he hangs his hat on access.

But as you probably know, access journalism suffers from its own inherent problems.

Teams sometimes use reporters manipulatively. And with King (and others) they’re happy to be stenographers without a lot of investigative journalism.
 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
But as you probably know, access journalism suffers from its own inherent problems.

Teams sometimes use reporters manipulatively. And with King (and others) they’re happy to be stenographers without a lot of investigative journalism.
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I do indeed know that. It's something I am fully aware of when I read him. There is both a rose-colored glasses problem and a corporate misdirection problem that access journalism suffers from.

By rose-colored glasses, I mean that in order to gain access, the dirt reported upon can't be too dirty, nor endemic to the entity divulging the information. That kills investigative journalism, as you note, because there are often big, very real things that are unprinted or buried at the access grantor's implied condition or overt request.

The misdirection stems from more of a "useful idiot" problem whereby corporate or other entities (need not be corporate, it can be non-profit or any other business org. format) will use the mouthpiece to misdirect a competitor or the public.

You've covered both. Just wanted to expound upon it a bit and show that I had, too.
 
rockaction said:
You've covered both. Just wanted to expound upon it a bit and show that I had, too.
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Yep - I have a gut feeling the Lance trade talk is a team feeding a reporter “we’re listening to offers” message more than as reported “we’ve been picking up the phone getting offers”.

If the latter were true, then obviously no one is offering anything they want for him.

It would be valuable to know how SF feels about Lance’s potential/future in that light, but as you said - no journalist is going to report the ugly side of the Lance saga for fear of losing that access.

It’s interesting that in that light, some of the longest tenured NFL reporters are some of the least trustworthy - again, at times not maliciously, but more that they’re the useful idiots, as you correctly stated.
 
WIDE RECEIVERS
1. JAXON SMITH-NJIGBA, Ohio State (6-0 ½, 197, 4.52, 1-2): Adam Thielen has fashioned an outstanding nine-year career with the Minnesota Vikings after signing as an undrafted rookie from Minnesota State Mankato. “I thought he was Adam Thielen,” one scout said, referring to Smith-Njigba. “He can get deep because of his route-running ability, whether it’s a double move or a little shake. His 40 was fast enough for me. He may be the most consistent out of the bunch. He can do some outside stuff, but he’s mainly best in the slot.” Caught 10 passes in seven games as a true freshman, exploded for 95-1,606-9 in 2021 and was limited to 60 snaps in the first two games last season when a hamstring injury ended his collegiate career. “I do like him,” said a second scout. “He can be a good pro. More in the vein of a big slot kind of guy. He catches the ball. He’s competitive. You just wonder if he has the top-end juice.” His shuttle-run times at the combine (3.93 short, 6.57 3-cone) were the best at the position. “I’m really concerned about his speed,” said a third scout. “The (4.52) is not real good nowadays, and I don’t think he plays that fast. He plays like 4.6 to me. He’s a really good player. I just don’t see that explosiveness.” His score of 14 on the Wonderlic test was the highest of the top four wideouts. “He’s one of the most overrated players in the draft,” said a fourth scout. “He’s got good hands, not great hands. He’s got good vision and run after but he doesn’t run away from anybody and he’s not particularly elusive. He can find holes in zones, and he’s tough. He’ll take a hit to make catch. I don’t see special traits. Has to be a slot. Not fast enough to play outside. I’d rather have (Zay) Flowers because he’s really fast and really good after the catch. Sounds like he might be a solid second-round pick, and I didn’t see that.” From Rockwall, Texas.
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www.golongtd.com

Part 1, WR/TE: Hallelujah, it's the Year of the Tight End

Michael Mayer, Dalton Kincaid and Darnell Washington may drive this All-American position into the next generation. Bob McGinn's 39th annual draft series begins exactly where it should.
www.golongtd.com www.golongtd.com
 
zeeshan2 said:
WIDE RECEIVERS
1. JAXON SMITH-NJIGBA, Ohio State (6-0 ½, 197, 4.52, 1-2): Adam Thielen has fashioned an outstanding nine-year career with the Minnesota Vikings after signing as an undrafted rookie from Minnesota State Mankato. “I thought he was Adam Thielen,” one scout said, referring to Smith-Njigba. “He can get deep because of his route-running ability, whether it’s a double move or a little shake. His 40 was fast enough for me. He may be the most consistent out of the bunch. He can do some outside stuff, but he’s mainly best in the slot.” Caught 10 passes in seven games as a true freshman, exploded for 95-1,606-9 in 2021 and was limited to 60 snaps in the first two games last season when a hamstring injury ended his collegiate career. “I do like him,” said a second scout. “He can be a good pro. More in the vein of a big slot kind of guy. He catches the ball. He’s competitive. You just wonder if he has the top-end juice.” His shuttle-run times at the combine (3.93 short, 6.57 3-cone) were the best at the position. “I’m really concerned about his speed,” said a third scout. “The (4.52) is not real good nowadays, and I don’t think he plays that fast. He plays like 4.6 to me. He’s a really good player. I just don’t see that explosiveness.” His score of 14 on the Wonderlic test was the highest of the top four wideouts. “He’s one of the most overrated players in the draft,” said a fourth scout. “He’s got good hands, not great hands. He’s got good vision and run after but he doesn’t run away from anybody and he’s not particularly elusive. He can find holes in zones, and he’s tough. He’ll take a hit to make catch. I don’t see special traits. Has to be a slot. Not fast enough to play outside. I’d rather have (Zay) Flowers because he’s really fast and really good after the catch. Sounds like he might be a solid second-round pick, and I didn’t see that.” From Rockwall, Texas.
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www.golongtd.com

Part 1, WR/TE: Hallelujah, it's the Year of the Tight End

Michael Mayer, Dalton Kincaid and Darnell Washington may drive this All-American position into the next generation. Bob McGinn's 39th annual draft series begins exactly where it should.
www.golongtd.com www.golongtd.com
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Regarding the bolded, I really wish these guys would go on record with these takes.

Not putting their name on it & being quoted anonymously like some hot take jake is pretty gutless.

I respect Peter King more for being wrong than some anonymous scout trashing a prospect. Makes me wonder what the motive is for it.
 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
zeeshan2 said:
WIDE RECEIVERS
1. JAXON SMITH-NJIGBA, Ohio State (6-0 ½, 197, 4.52, 1-2): Adam Thielen has fashioned an outstanding nine-year career with the Minnesota Vikings after signing as an undrafted rookie from Minnesota State Mankato. “I thought he was Adam Thielen,” one scout said, referring to Smith-Njigba. “He can get deep because of his route-running ability, whether it’s a double move or a little shake. His 40 was fast enough for me. He may be the most consistent out of the bunch. He can do some outside stuff, but he’s mainly best in the slot.” Caught 10 passes in seven games as a true freshman, exploded for 95-1,606-9 in 2021 and was limited to 60 snaps in the first two games last season when a hamstring injury ended his collegiate career. “I do like him,” said a second scout. “He can be a good pro. More in the vein of a big slot kind of guy. He catches the ball. He’s competitive. You just wonder if he has the top-end juice.” His shuttle-run times at the combine (3.93 short, 6.57 3-cone) were the best at the position. “I’m really concerned about his speed,” said a third scout. “The (4.52) is not real good nowadays, and I don’t think he plays that fast. He plays like 4.6 to me. He’s a really good player. I just don’t see that explosiveness.” His score of 14 on the Wonderlic test was the highest of the top four wideouts. “He’s one of the most overrated players in the draft,” said a fourth scout. “He’s got good hands, not great hands. He’s got good vision and run after but he doesn’t run away from anybody and he’s not particularly elusive. He can find holes in zones, and he’s tough. He’ll take a hit to make catch. I don’t see special traits. Has to be a slot. Not fast enough to play outside. I’d rather have (Zay) Flowers because he’s really fast and really good after the catch. Sounds like he might be a solid second-round pick, and I didn’t see that.” From Rockwall, Texas.
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www.golongtd.com

Part 1, WR/TE: Hallelujah, it's the Year of the Tight End

Michael Mayer, Dalton Kincaid and Darnell Washington may drive this All-American position into the next generation. Bob McGinn's 39th annual draft series begins exactly where it should.
www.golongtd.com www.golongtd.com
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Regarding the bolded, I really wish these guys would go on record with these takes.

Not putting their name on it & being quoted anonymously like some hot take jake is pretty gutless.

I respect Peter King more for being wrong than some anonymous scout trashing a prospect. Makes me wonder what the motive is for it.
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Maybe the person writing that didnt even talk to anyone
 
zeeshan2 said:
WIDE RECEIVERS
1. JAXON SMITH-NJIGBA, Ohio State (6-0 ½, 197, 4.52, 1-2): Adam Thielen has fashioned an outstanding nine-year career with the Minnesota Vikings after signing as an undrafted rookie from Minnesota State Mankato. “I thought he was Adam Thielen,” one scout said, referring to Smith-Njigba. “He can get deep because of his route-running ability, whether it’s a double move or a little shake. His 40 was fast enough for me. He may be the most consistent out of the bunch. He can do some outside stuff, but he’s mainly best in the slot.” Caught 10 passes in seven games as a true freshman, exploded for 95-1,606-9 in 2021 and was limited to 60 snaps in the first two games last season when a hamstring injury ended his collegiate career. “I do like him,” said a second scout. “He can be a good pro. More in the vein of a big slot kind of guy. He catches the ball. He’s competitive. You just wonder if he has the top-end juice.” His shuttle-run times at the combine (3.93 short, 6.57 3-cone) were the best at the position. “I’m really concerned about his speed,” said a third scout. “The (4.52) is not real good nowadays, and I don’t think he plays that fast. He plays like 4.6 to me. He’s a really good player. I just don’t see that explosiveness.” His score of 14 on the Wonderlic test was the highest of the top four wideouts. “He’s one of the most overrated players in the draft,” said a fourth scout. “He’s got good hands, not great hands. He’s got good vision and run after but he doesn’t run away from anybody and he’s not particularly elusive. He can find holes in zones, and he’s tough. He’ll take a hit to make catch. I don’t see special traits. Has to be a slot. Not fast enough to play outside. I’d rather have (Zay) Flowers because he’s really fast and really good after the catch. Sounds like he might be a solid second-round pick, and I didn’t see that.” From Rockwall, Texas.
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www.golongtd.com

Part 1, WR/TE: Hallelujah, it's the Year of the Tight End

Michael Mayer, Dalton Kincaid and Darnell Washington may drive this All-American position into the next generation. Bob McGinn's 39th annual draft series begins exactly where it should.
www.golongtd.com www.golongtd.com
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I used to love these annual Bob McGinn pieces but I already pay for enough stuff to drop $8 minimum to read one article.

And I have no issue with the anonymous comments because of course, also don't disagree with any comments provided in this clip.
 
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The (4.52) is not real good nowadays, and I don’t think he plays that fast. He plays like 4.6 to me
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Just straight hot nonsense. If he runs a 4.52, saying he “plays like a 4.6” is haterade.

He plays like a 4.52 because he runs a 4.52 - you can’t arbitrarily add .08 to his 40 time because your special eyes > combine clocks.

FOH, anonymous scout.
 
Growing Certainty Jaxon Smith-Njigba Will Be First WR Drafted

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Smith-Njigba is a true slot receiver, spending almost 90% of his time at Ohio State on the inside. He makes up for a lack of size and top end speed with agility, body control, and strong hands. Despite being a Buckeye for the past three years, he only has one full season of production at the college level, after missing 10 games with a hamstring injury last year.

He benefitted in that full season from having first-round picks Garrett Wilson and Chris Olavesurrounding him. Still, Smith-Njigba outperformed both players in 2021, with 95 receptions, to Wilson’s 70 and Olave’s 65, and 1,606 receiving yards, to Wilson’s 1,058 and Olave’s 936. He didn’t have as many receiving touchdowns as Wilson (12) or Olave (13), but he still managed to find the end zone nine times.

The Eagles, holding the 10th overall pick, have reportedly been doing some last-second research on wideouts, according to Tony Pauline of Pro Football Network, specifically doing homework on Smith-Njigba. The Jets are another team to watch here. New York would prefer to take a top offensive tackle prospect, but if none are available, it’s hard to see Smith-Njigba slipping past them at No. 13. The Cowboys have also shown some recent interest in the wide receivers of the draft, but at No. 26 overall, Smith-Njigba isn’t likely to be around.

Regardless of where he hears his name called, it’s becoming more and more apparent that Smith-Njigba is establishing himself as one of the best, if not the best, pass catching prospect in the draft. If Pauline is correct, Smith-Njigba could find himself catching passes from Jalen Hurtsor Aaron Rodgers next September.
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In a DEVY league I traded Gibbs and a four pick bump in the first round to the other team (1,02 for 1.06) for JSN and a 3rd rd pick. Keeping in mind many of the top rookies are already on a roster and some underclassman. Marvin Harrison jr will go 1.01. We can carry only 12 Devy players ( underclassman), 4 max per team. There are 5 DEVY players already rostered, so only 7 DEVY players can be drafTed, with the rest being rookies.
 
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zeeshan2 said:
[Mosher] I believe Ohio State WR Jaxon Smith-Njigba will have the slowest 10-yard split (1.65) ever for a first-round receiver. Kelvin Benjamin (1.62) currently has the slowest 10-yard split ever for a first-round WR
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I deeply question this. Something is wrong- perhaps a typo reported from original pro day source ? Based on the 10 yard split, 20 yard split and 40 time JSN is Michael Mayer for the first 10 yards and then Tyreek Hill the next 30. It doesn't add up at all.
 
One of the more predictive college indicators for NFL fantasy success is yards per route run.

As a sophomore, JSN averaged 4.50. That's an elite number (wish I had a full database) but we can compare him to Olave and Wilson that same season: Olave: 2.48 and Wilson: 3.19.

There is also a metric Target Yards Added which basically tries to eliminate QB play and scheme from the equation. It takes the yards a player gets per target and subtracts from it the QB's yards per target. So we can see how much more/less the WR does when being targeted relative to the QB's overall attempts. JSN's 2021 was behind only Watson, Tolbert, Jamo and Treylon. Considering JSN is mostly a slot player and not a burner deep threat, it's pretty impressive that he was delivering so many more yards than when Wilson, Olave or Harrison were being targeted that season.

 
ghostguy123 said:
Hot Sauce Guy said:
zeeshan2 said:
WIDE RECEIVERS
1. JAXON SMITH-NJIGBA, Ohio State (6-0 ½, 197, 4.52, 1-2): Adam Thielen has fashioned an outstanding nine-year career with the Minnesota Vikings after signing as an undrafted rookie from Minnesota State Mankato. “I thought he was Adam Thielen,” one scout said, referring to Smith-Njigba. “He can get deep because of his route-running ability, whether it’s a double move or a little shake. His 40 was fast enough for me. He may be the most consistent out of the bunch. He can do some outside stuff, but he’s mainly best in the slot.” Caught 10 passes in seven games as a true freshman, exploded for 95-1,606-9 in 2021 and was limited to 60 snaps in the first two games last season when a hamstring injury ended his collegiate career. “I do like him,” said a second scout. “He can be a good pro. More in the vein of a big slot kind of guy. He catches the ball. He’s competitive. You just wonder if he has the top-end juice.” His shuttle-run times at the combine (3.93 short, 6.57 3-cone) were the best at the position. “I’m really concerned about his speed,” said a third scout. “The (4.52) is not real good nowadays, and I don’t think he plays that fast. He plays like 4.6 to me. He’s a really good player. I just don’t see that explosiveness.” His score of 14 on the Wonderlic test was the highest of the top four wideouts. “He’s one of the most overrated players in the draft,” said a fourth scout. “He’s got good hands, not great hands. He’s got good vision and run after but he doesn’t run away from anybody and he’s not particularly elusive. He can find holes in zones, and he’s tough. He’ll take a hit to make catch. I don’t see special traits. Has to be a slot. Not fast enough to play outside. I’d rather have (Zay) Flowers because he’s really fast and really good after the catch. Sounds like he might be a solid second-round pick, and I didn’t see that.” From Rockwall, Texas.
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www.golongtd.com

Part 1, WR/TE: Hallelujah, it's the Year of the Tight End

Michael Mayer, Dalton Kincaid and Darnell Washington may drive this All-American position into the next generation. Bob McGinn's 39th annual draft series begins exactly where it should.
www.golongtd.com www.golongtd.com
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Regarding the bolded, I really wish these guys would go on record with these takes.

Not putting their name on it & being quoted anonymously like some hot take jake is pretty gutless.

I respect Peter King more for being wrong than some anonymous scout trashing a prospect. Makes me wonder what the motive is for it.
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Maybe the person writing that didnt even talk to anyone
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Just for context on McGinn. He's been around forever but hasn't been a credentialed beat reporter for years. He still does his draft series every year. He won the Huddle Report's Top 100 contest last year (tied with McShay and one other) (https://www.thehuddlereport.com/top100.scores.shtml) has the current top 5 year average and has won the top 100 award multiple times going back to 2001 (https://www.thehuddlereport.com/scoring/top100.champs.shtml). He's enshrined in the writer's wing of the Pro Football HoF in Canton and has a closet full of sports reporting awards from a long career.

McGinn's pre-draft reports used to quote scouts by name, but they slowly stopped allowing that several years ago. For a while he'd use descriptors like "executive for an AFC North team" or similar, but as of 4-5 years ago they all went fully anonymous. I don't think there's any question that affects most people's view of the reliability of his sources, but he still seems to have a pretty good handle on the draft, at least as of last year when he nailed it. He never does mocks - just position analysis and a top 100.

He's got JSN as the top WR this year with a ton of very positive comments, but usually tries to mix in some of the negative as well. You can see he's graded him a "1-2" which means despite being the top WR in the draft, he's not a consensus first rounder. The narrative part of his WR/TE report indicates its a rare down year for WR (a position that already suffers from a high bust rate in the 1st round).
 
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Jaxon Smith-Njigba is reportedly the “WR1” on the majority of teams’ boards heading into the NFL Draft. Many scouts and coaches reportedly believe Njigba “doesn’t make it out” of the Top-15. Many scouts believe either the Packers, Texans, or Patriots will scoop up the Buckeyes WR. Njigba is looking at potentially being the fourth Buckeyes WR to be selected in the Top-15 in the past 20 years
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Ilov80s said:
zeeshan2 said:
[Mosher] I believe Ohio State WR Jaxon Smith-Njigba will have the slowest 10-yard split (1.65) ever for a first-round receiver. Kelvin Benjamin (1.62) currently has the slowest 10-yard split ever for a first-round WR
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I deeply question this. Something is wrong- perhaps a typo reported from original pro day source ? Based on the 10 yard split, 20 yard split and 40 time JSN is Michael Mayer for the first 10 yards and then Tyreek Hill the next 30. It doesn't add up at all.
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I feel pretty certain the information is accurate, not a typo.
 
menobrown said:
Ilov80s said:
zeeshan2 said:
[Mosher] I believe Ohio State WR Jaxon Smith-Njigba will have the slowest 10-yard split (1.65) ever for a first-round receiver. Kelvin Benjamin (1.62) currently has the slowest 10-yard split ever for a first-round WR
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I deeply question this. Something is wrong- perhaps a typo reported from original pro day source ? Based on the 10 yard split, 20 yard split and 40 time JSN is Michael Mayer for the first 10 yards and then Tyreek Hill the next 30. It doesn't add up at all.
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I feel pretty certain the information is accurate, not a typo.
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Well then I love him even more. A little slow out the gate but when he gets going he’s about the fastest player in the NFL (which requires me to disbelieve my eyes).

Something in those reported numbers is simply not correct.
 
Ilov80s said:
menobrown said:
Ilov80s said:
zeeshan2 said:
[Mosher] I believe Ohio State WR Jaxon Smith-Njigba will have the slowest 10-yard split (1.65) ever for a first-round receiver. Kelvin Benjamin (1.62) currently has the slowest 10-yard split ever for a first-round WR
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I deeply question this. Something is wrong- perhaps a typo reported from original pro day source ? Based on the 10 yard split, 20 yard split and 40 time JSN is Michael Mayer for the first 10 yards and then Tyreek Hill the next 30. It doesn't add up at all.
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I feel pretty certain the information is accurate, not a typo.
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Well then I love him even more. A little slow out the gate but when he gets going he’s about the fastest player in the NFL (which requires me to disbelieve my eyes).

Something in those reported numbers is simply not correct.
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He's still about 1/10th of a second off Tyreeks remaining 30 yards. So good but still not in range of the fastest players in the league.

Dane Brugler in his Beast writeup quoted those times and I've asked him where he gets his timing and he's told me it's from an NFL teams database. I think he summed it up well in his conclusion on JSN's timing quite well by phrasing him as very quick, just not sudden. That's an opinion that can be disagreed with but I truly think the timing is dead on accurate.
 
Ilov80s said:
menobrown said:
Ilov80s said:
zeeshan2 said:
[Mosher] I believe Ohio State WR Jaxon Smith-Njigba will have the slowest 10-yard split (1.65) ever for a first-round receiver. Kelvin Benjamin (1.62) currently has the slowest 10-yard split ever for a first-round WR
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I deeply question this. Something is wrong- perhaps a typo reported from original pro day source ? Based on the 10 yard split, 20 yard split and 40 time JSN is Michael Mayer for the first 10 yards and then Tyreek Hill the next 30. It doesn't add up at all.
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I feel pretty certain the information is accurate, not a typo.
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Well then I love him even more. A little slow out the gate but when he gets going he’s about the fastest player in the NFL (which requires me to disbelieve my eyes).

Something in those reported numbers is simply not correct.
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Something does seem off. Look at his 3 cone and Shuttle numbers. He was the best WR at the combine in those 2 tests. Hard to be so slow out of the gate yet still lead those.
 
menobrown said:
He's still about 1/10th of a second off Tyreeks remaining 30 yards. So good but still not in range of the fastest players in the league.

Dane Brugler in his Beast writeup quoted those times and I've asked him where he gets his timing and he's told me it's from an NFL teams database. I think he summed it up well in his conclusion on JSN's timing quite well by phrasing him as very quick, just not sudden. That's an opinion that can be disagreed with but I trul
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Right but 10-20 he’s blazing based on the reported 20 yard split? It doesn’t seem to add up to me. Doesn’t really matter I suppose but seems really funky.
 
Is it possible that his hammy injury/lack of track-specific training relates to not coming out of the blocks well?
I watched the youtube pro-day "4.48" and the 3 cone at the combine.
I've concluded that I have no idea what I'm supposed to be looking for here
Carry on lol
 
Ilov80s said:
menobrown said:
He's still about 1/10th of a second off Tyreeks remaining 30 yards. So good but still not in range of the fastest players in the league.

Dane Brugler in his Beast writeup quoted those times and I've asked him where he gets his timing and he's told me it's from an NFL teams database. I think he summed it up well in his conclusion on JSN's timing quite well by phrasing him as very quick, just not sudden. That's an opinion that can be disagreed with but I trul
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Right but 10-20 he’s blazing based on the reported 20 yard split? It doesn’t seem to add up to me. Doesn’t really matter I suppose but seems really funky.
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You talking about his 20 yard shuttle or 20 yard split? I've not seen his 20 yard split. I know he had a blazing 20 yard shuttle but that's totally different and like the 3 cone more a measure of quickness IMO.
 
menobrown said:
Ilov80s said:
menobrown said:
Dane Brugler in his Beast writeup quoted those times and I've asked him where he gets his timing and he's told me it's from an NFL teams database. I think he summed it up well in his conclusion on JSN's timing quite well by phrasing him as very quick, just not sudden. That's an opinion that can be disagreed with but I trul
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Right but 10-20 he’s blazing based on the reported 20 yard split? It doesn’t seem to add up to me. Doesn’t really matter I suppose but seems really funky.
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You talking about his 20 yard shuttle or 20 yard split? I've not seen his 20 yard split. I know he had a blazing 20 yard shuttle but that's totally different and like the 3 cone more a measure of quickness IMO.
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20 yard split

 
Ilov80s said:
greenmountaingoat said:
Is it possible that his hammy injury/lack of track-specific training relates to not coming out of the blocks well?
I watched the youtube pro-day "4.48" and the 3 cone at the combine.
I've concluded that I have no idea what I'm supposed to be looking for here
Carry on lol
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His 3 cone was crazy elite so I think his hammy is fine.
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I was theorizing that the lack of healthy prep time for something as specific as a sprinter block start might impact his 10 yard split
 

Seahawks selected Jaxon Smith-Njigba with the No. 20 overall pick in the 2023 NFL Draft.​

After a sleepy 2020 as a true freshman, Smith-Njigba (6’1/196) exploded for 95/1,606/9 in 2021 to become the No. 1 in a receiver corps that featured 2022 first-rounders Garrett Wilson and Chris Olave. Operating from the slot, JSN outpaced Wilson by nearly 600 yards, and Olave by almost 700. Although it is true JSN had the benefit of two more games, it was a notice-server that Smith-Njigba was also a Day 1 talent. Unfortunately, hamstring woes prevented Smith-Njigba from building on his breakout in 2022, limiting him to just three appearances as Ohio State again made the playoff. JSN’s “timed” speed (4.52 with a Pro Day gun) doesn’t leap off the page, but his agility does after he destroyed the three cone at the Combine with a 6.57 mark. His 3.93 in the 20-yard shuttle also blew the doors off Lucas Oil Stadium. A readymade package for the slot, Smith-Njigba profiles as an immediate contributor in the short-to-intermediate areas of the field. JSN will work in behind D.K. Metcalf and Tyler Lockett.
Apr 27, 2023, 10:34 PM ET
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would still take him first but gap has closed vs. what i had going into draft - can't ignore draft capital, was planning on trying to trade up but now am prob going to be content to sit in my spot and take next best available, just need to figure out who that is.
 
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