WR Josh Gordon, KC (7 Viewers)

[Soulfly3]

Its not like espn got their info from the league. They couldn't have.

They better trust their source, whoever it is, or Gordon will likely make some nice cheddar from the story

Fwiw, i dont doubt the story to be true w weed. But who was the source that leaked the info? And what's the fallout going to be?

 

[opensourcebeer]

How much of what ESPN and NFLN are reporting is just parroting Schaffer's original report? I'm not saying he's wrong, I'm just questioning if either network put any research into their reporting.

Sort of similar to when somebody like a Drudge "breaks" a story and CNN runs with it without doing any research.

 

[grateful zed]

more and more rumblings that it may have been a miscommunication regarding the test... which resulted in a missed test.

so, still a fail, but not a "drug in my system" fail.

we'll see.... cant see it being longer than this week til we know

Who is rumbling?

my stomach is, im hungry.

 

[fatness]

Posted: 5/21/2014 12:32pm et

Cleveland Browns WR Miles Austin (undisclosed) did not participate in organized team activities Wednesday, May 21.

http://www.thehuddle.com/nfl/player/8021/

Not really Josh Gordon news.

Someone was talking about about Bennett and Austin being good pickups this year, maybe 20-30 posts before yours.

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=645846&p=16837087

 

[massraider]

Ther is a sick part of me enjoying the suspense. Be a fun thread when the news comes in.

 

[ROYALWITCHEESE]

Ther is a sick part of me enjoying the suspense. Be a fun thread when the news comes in.

You've got that right.

 

[opensourcebeer]

As an owner, he's provided nothing but entertainment and excitement.

 

[amnesiac]

sold him this morning. got some decent value, even if it's only 6-8 games.

next time he gets popped it's over though.

too bad. he made it look easy out there.

 

[amnesiac]

LET'S JUST QUIT BUMPING THESE GORDON THREADS UNTIL WE HAVE ACTUAL NEWS TO TALK ABOUT. THANKS!!!!!!!!!!

Hmmm you must own him in a keeper league, sorry dude

What's your point?

you might be over reacting a bit. it's a discussion board.

i can post every hour for a week in this thread about random bull#### and there's nothing you can do about it.

people want to discuss Gordon, relax.

 

[BWill]

I was offered Josh Gordon for Keenan Allen to the guy who won the championship last year. (I would receive Gordon.)

Do I make the trade?

It would put me back another year, when im trying to win... Should I ask for More/Less?

 

[Coeur de Lion]

I was offered Josh Gordon for Keenan Allen to the guy who won the championship last year. (I would receive Gordon.)

Do I make the trade?

It would put me back another year, when im trying to win... Should I ask for More/Less?

Gordon should just be considered a throw in in a deal for Keenan Allen at this point. He's not even remotely close to Allen in value.

 

[Otis]

I was offered Josh Gordon for Keenan Allen to the guy who won the championship last year. (I would receive Gordon.)

Do I make the trade?

It would put me back another year, when im trying to win... Should I ask for More/Less?

Gordon should just be considered a throw in in a deal for Keenan Allen at this point. He's not even remotely close to Allen in value.

Paging Righetti.

 

[ROYALWITCHEESE]

I was offered Josh Gordon for Keenan Allen to the guy who won the championship last year. (I would receive Gordon.)

Do I make the trade?

It would put me back another year, when im trying to win... Should I ask for More/Less?

Gordon should just be considered a throw in in a deal for Keenan Allen at this point. He's not even remotely close to Allen in value.

He's a throw in only if out for the year. No way to know at this point. I would stand pat since you would be trading for him. He could be much more cheap in a week...

 

[Coeur de Lion]

I was offered Josh Gordon for Keenan Allen to the guy who won the championship last year. (I would receive Gordon.)

Do I make the trade?

It would put me back another year, when im trying to win... Should I ask for More/Less?

Gordon should just be considered a throw in in a deal for Keenan Allen at this point. He's not even remotely close to Allen in value.

He's a throw in only if out for the year. No way to know at this point. I would stand pat since you would be trading for him. He could be much more cheap in a week...

No, compared to Keenan Allen Gordon is a throw in, period, moving forward and independent of how long his currently pending suspension is. He's tested positive a minimum of five times over the past 3 1/2 years despite increasingly catastrophic consequences. It's a hugely safe bet that he continues to struggle to stay clean.

 

[ROYALWITCHEESE]

I was offered Josh Gordon for Keenan Allen to the guy who won the championship last year. (I would receive Gordon.)

Do I make the trade?

It would put me back another year, when im trying to win... Should I ask for More/Less?

Gordon should just be considered a throw in in a deal for Keenan Allen at this point. He's not even remotely close to Allen in value.

He's a throw in only if out for the year. No way to know at this point. I would stand pat since you would be trading for him. He could be much more cheap in a week...

No, compared to Keenan Allen Gordon is a throw in, period, moving forward and independent of how long his currently pending suspension is. He's tested positive a minimum of five times over the past 3 1/2 years despite increasingly catastrophic consequences. It's a hugely safe bet that he continues to struggle to stay clean.

. Allen is one of the more overrated WRs in fantasy. He has likely already hit his ceiling. I expect him to be targeted less with the return of Floyd and the emergence of Green.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@ProFootballTalk: Josh Gordon was in Stage 3 of the drug program at the time of his most recent violation http://t.co/Hd0tOYlYlf

 

[amnesiac]

@ProFootballTalk: Josh Gordon was in Stage 3 of the drug program at the time of his most recent violation http://t.co/Hd0tOYlYlf

oof. that's too bad.

someone get soulfly on suicide watch.

 

[Soulfly3]

The evidence in that article was overwhelming.

Remind me how they got that 100% confidential information, please?

Mary Kay is a scrub in Cleveland, and a puppet to the Browns... She knows nothing and has carved out a niche of being wrong. HTH.

 

[JohnnyU]

The evidence in that article was overwhelming.

Remind me how they got that 100% confidential information, please?

Mary Kay is a scrub in Cleveland, and a puppet to the Browns... She knows nothing and has carved out a niche of being wrong. HTH.

How long do you think it will be before Gordon is out of the league because he can't quit smoking weed? Perhaps before that happens they will legalize it, or minimize the punishment for weed since so many states are legalizing it.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@adamlevitan: If you're in Stage 3 of the substance abuse program and have a violation, the MINIMUM ban is 16 games. Josh Gordon. http://t.co/TSotTVAgTF

 

[massraider]

The evidence in that article was overwhelming.

Remind me how they got that 100% confidential information, please?

The same way all other confidential information get leaked. Usually with a phone call.

This isn't the NSA.

 

[ROYALWITCHEESE]

If it is so cut and dry, why is it taking so long?

Shouldn't it be, "Stage 3. You failed. Appeal denied. See you next year."??

 

[KellysHeroes]

The Cleveland Plain Dealer says Josh Gordon was in Stage 3 of the league's substance abuse program at the time of his latest alleged positive test.
It's a crucial distinction because a violation while in Stage 3 carries a minimum suspension of one year. Afterward, players must apply for reinstatement to the league. Meanwhile, both Gordon and the league have maintained complete silence on the matter since the story broke in early May. Gordon's camp is appealing on unknown grounds

 

[Braktastic]

BOOM head shot! See you next year, Gordon. Tell Justin Blackmon we said, "Hello".

 

[massraider]

The evidence in that article was overwhelming.

Remind me how they got that 100% confidential information, please?

The same way all other confidential information get leaked. Usually with a phone call.

This isn't the NSA.

Ha. I just listened to the MKC interview.

Her source for knowing that JG was in the 3rd stage? Josh Gordon. He told her after the last suspension that the next one was indefinite.

 

[ebsteelers]

I've done 2 redraft leagues and saw him get drafted in round 7 and round 8.

and it wasnt autodrafted either.. both owners think hes going to get a reduced suspension.

The only way I was even remotely thinking of taking him in re draft leagues now was in round 14 or later in a 16 round league.

 

[RBM]

BOOM head shot! See you next year, Gordon. Tell Justin Blackmon we said, "Hello".

You're pretty happy about this huh.

Wonder why this isn't done by now if it's such a no brainer slam dunk.

 

[Braktastic]

You're pretty happy about this huh.

Wonder why this isn't done by now if it's such a no brainer slam dunk.

Eh, I wouldn't say happy about the outcome as much as I would say happy that the long, overly drawn out process is nearly over, and I will shortly be able to stop reading the posts of those still in Stage 1 of the Kubler-Ross model.

As to why it isn't done by now, I think it's the agents job to exhaust all avenues even when your client is a complete knucklehead.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

The evidence in that article was overwhelming.

Remind me how they got that 100% confidential information, please?

Mary Kay is a scrub in Cleveland, and a puppet to the Browns... She knows nothing and has carved out a niche of being wrong. HTH.

It's but a flesh wound!

 

[Soulfly3]

Ha. I just listened to the MKC interview.


Her source for knowing that JG was in the 3rd stage? Josh Gordon. He told her after the last suspension that the next one was indefinite.

The "ya, I think so" response?

if you're gonna take a stoners "ya, I think so" as scripture, MKC, you're doing it wrong.

 

[Ditka Butkus]

What a f-ing waste.....Classic example of 10 cent head.

 

[Soulfly3]

You guys are aware Mary Kay is REHASHING A YEAR OLD STORY AS HER EVIDENCE ?

Funny enough, if you pulled your head's from your asses and took the time to listen what Gordon said to her, he wasn't even sure when responded to her question.

Could he be in Stage 3? 100%, yes.

But using MKC as your bible is literally the worst move you can make. Just trust me on that

 

[mquinnjr]

Is there a link to an actual ruling from the NFL on a drug violation by Josh Gordon, or is this really 43 pages of speculation?

 

[massraider]

Is there a link to an actual ruling from the NFL on a drug violation by Josh Gordon, or is this really 43 pages of speculation?

The thread was started in 2012, so: no, it's not 43 pages of speculation. There is also no link to an actual ruling from the NFL.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Ha. I just listened to the MKC interview.


Her source for knowing that JG was in the 3rd stage? Josh Gordon. He told her after the last suspension that the next one was indefinite.

The "ya, I think so" response?

if you're gonna take a stoners "ya, I think so" as scripture, MKC, you're doing it wrong.

I would weight a "ya I think so" from Josh Gordon himself more than a random message board troll who thinks he can determine what Stage a player is in.

 

[Soulfly3]

I would weight a "ya I think so" from Josh Gordon himself more than a random message board troll who thinks he can determine what Stage a player is in.

oh, well that's settled then,

 

[Ditka Butkus]

I would weight a "ya I think so" from Josh Gordon himself more than a random message board troll who thinks he can determine what Stage a player is in.

oh, well that's settled then,

Your photo confuses me...Are you a Giants fan?

 

[Dr. Octopus]

If it is so cut and dry, why is it taking so long?

Shouldn't it be, "Stage 3. You failed. Appeal denied. See you next year."??

There's various arguments they could be making in an appeal process, such as "improper chain of custody" for example.

 

[Phenix]

Fact is this guy is tainted goods while pretty much useless and not worth the price of admission. Unless you get him for WW fodder... not worth having.

 

[Soulfly3]

Fact is this guy is tainted goods while pretty much useless and not worth the price of admission. Unless you get him for WW fodder... not worth having.

 

[Phenix]

Fact is this guy is tainted goods while pretty much useless and not worth the price of admission. Unless you get him for WW fodder... not worth having.

Laugh all you want your harsh language and abusive behavior is not going to change my opinion. Because reports are by people more credible and respected than you say he is in stage 3 and is going to be suspended regardless of your pitch that no one cares about.

 

[Soulfly3]

Laugh all you want your harsh language and abusive behavior is not going to change my opinion. Because facts are he is in stage 3 and reports are he is going to be suspended regardless of your pitch that no one cares about.

need better bait.

 

[Soulfly3]

Phenix, you got a set or you like the other cowards that bail when I put my money where my mouth is?

16 game ban, I take a lifetime ban from the forum. IP ban, whatever... don't care

less than that, you say bye bye for the season.

What have you got to lose since you know the FACTS?

 

[Phenix]

Phenix, you got a set or you like the other cowards that bail when I put my money where my mouth is?

16 game ban, I take a lifetime ban from the forum. IP ban, whatever... don't care

less than that, you say bye bye for the season.

What have you got to lose since you know the FACTS?

Not abusive huh? Your anger over people not listeneing to your Gordon nonsense is getting to you.

Laugh all you want your harsh language and abusive behavior is not going to change my opinion. Because facts are he is in stage 3 and reports are he is going to be suspended regardless of your pitch that no one cares about.

need better bait.

Bait? You telling people to take their head out of their, well they can read below, is not abusive? Guess it was bait and not truth.

You guys are aware Mary Kay is REHASHING A YEAR OLD STORY AS HER EVIDENCE ?

Funny enough, if you pulled your head's from your asses and took the time to listen what Gordon said to her, he wasn't even sure when responded to her question.

Could he be in Stage 3? 100%, yes.

But using MKC as your bible is literally the worst move you can make. Just trust me on that

 

[Soulfly3]

so that's a no to the deal?

But you know the FACTS, man...

Show the world how factually accurate you are. Take the deal. It's right there in front of you

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Are you really getting the vapors over the 'a' word?

 

[Phenix]

so that's a no to the deal?

But you know the FACTS, man...

Show the world how factually accurate you are. Take the deal. It's right there in front of you

Why make a bet on things only you care so much about, your abusive behavior will get you suspended and banned soon enough.

 

[Soulfly3]

so that's a no to the deal?

But you know the FACTS, man...

Show the world how factually accurate you are. Take the deal. It's right there in front of you

Why make a bet on things only you care so much about, your abusive behavior will get you suspended and banned soon enough.

That's all I needed to know about you.

Just the rest who find it so easy to claim they know he's gone - But can't seem to put their money with their mouth is.

Have a good one, bud.

 

[Phenix]

so that's a no to the deal?

But you know the FACTS, man...

Show the world how factually accurate you are. Take the deal. It's right there in front of you

Why make a bet on things only you care so much about, your abusive behavior will get you suspended and banned soon enough.

That's all I needed to know about you.

Just the rest who find it so easy to claim they know he's gone - But can't seem to put their money with their mouth is.

Have a good one, bud.

Someone is really wanting people to listen to him badly.

 

[Soulfly3]

so that's a no to the deal?

But you know the FACTS, man...

Show the world how factually accurate you are. Take the deal. It's right there in front of you

Why make a bet on things only you care so much about, your abusive behavior will get you suspended and banned soon enough.

That's all I needed to know about you.

Just the rest who find it so easy to claim they know he's gone - But can't seem to put their money with their mouth is.

Have a good one, bud.

Someone is really wanting people to listen to him badly.

People? Im asking YOU a question. Noone else.

But hey, like I said... You like to talk a tough game, but dont have the stones to back it up when confronted. As I said.... That's all I needed to know about you