WR Keenan Allen, CHI (1 Viewer)

[menobrown]

Just as a side not to get an idea into what other teams are thinking the Jets and Texans had interest in him, nothing was close with the Jets , was with the Texans though.

Also he is expected to sign an extension. ETA-this is just him saying he'd welcome an extension, not so much what is being offered to him.

 

[Major]

I don't understand the move from the Bear's side, they aren't a 1-year rental at WR away from contending, they should be using their draft picks to build toward the future.

Who says its a 1 year rental?

Bears are a lot closer to contending than people think. Defense was top-5 down the stretch, if the QB play is better (and Allen helps that even if they somehow stuck with Fields) this could absolutely be a playoff team, especially in a weak NFC.

If Caleb is the real deal, they may definitely be closer than you think. See Texans and CJ Stroud.

 

[Buckna]

Just as a side not to get an idea into what other teams are thinking the Jets and Texans had interest in him, nothing was close with the Jets , was with the Texans though.

Also he is expected to sign an extension. ETA-this is just him saying he'd welcome an extension, not so much what is being offered to him.

Would have liked to have seen him land with the Texans, could be more confident he gets fantasy #'s with Stroud. Texans could have cut Woods as their possession guy who is basically said to be a great mentor in the locker-room but is an obvious weak spot on the field after his torn ligaments.

 

[DJackson10]

I don't understand the move from the Bear's side, they aren't a 1-year rental at WR away from contending, they should be using their draft picks to build toward the future.

It doesn’t matter if they contend or not. If you draft a QB early, it’s malpractice not to do everything possible to surround him with the necessary talent that aids his development.

What does more to help acclimate Caleb to the NFL as a rookie…a 4th round pick or one of the best zone beating WRs in the league? And for the record, DJM is one of the very best man beaters, so they are being very intentional about the fit as well.

If he plays the first 6 games of Caleb’s career and nothing more, it’s a great move.

They still need offensive line help

 

[Ilov80s]

I don't understand the move from the Bear's side, they aren't a 1-year rental at WR away from contending, they should be using their draft picks to build toward the future.

It doesn’t matter if they contend or not. If you draft a QB early, it’s malpractice not to do everything possible to surround him with the necessary talent that aids his development.

What does more to help acclimate Caleb to the NFL as a rookie…a 4th round pick or one of the best zone beating WRs in the league? And for the record, DJM is one of the very best man beaters, so they are being very intentional about the fit as well.

If he plays the first 6 games of Caleb’s career and nothing more, it’s a great move.

They still need offensive line help

Sure but trading a 4th for Keenan Allen doesn't really have much impact on their OL. There is still room the draft and FA to improve it.

 

[Da Franchise]

I don't understand the move from the Bear's side, they aren't a 1-year rental at WR away from contending, they should be using their draft picks to build toward the future.

It doesn’t matter if they contend or not. If you draft a QB early, it’s malpractice not to do everything possible to surround him with the necessary talent that aids his development.

What does more to help acclimate Caleb to the NFL as a rookie…a 4th round pick or one of the best zone beating WRs in the league? And for the record, DJM is one of the very best man beaters, so they are being very intentional about the fit as well.

If he plays the first 6 games of Caleb’s career and nothing more, it’s a great move.

They still need offensive line help

Okay?

 

[DJackson10]

I don't understand the move from the Bear's side, they aren't a 1-year rental at WR away from contending, they should be using their draft picks to build toward the future.

It doesn’t matter if they contend or not. If you draft a QB early, it’s malpractice not to do everything possible to surround him with the necessary talent that aids his development.

What does more to help acclimate Caleb to the NFL as a rookie…a 4th round pick or one of the best zone beating WRs in the league? And for the record, DJM is one of the very best man beaters, so they are being very intentional about the fit as well.

If he plays the first 6 games of Caleb’s career and nothing more, it’s a great move.

They still need offensive line help

Sure but trading a 4th for Keenan Allen doesn't really have much impact on their OL. There is still room the draft and FA to improve it.

The skill guys can’t get the ball if the offensive line isn’t giving the QB time.

 

[Ilov80s]

I don't understand the move from the Bear's side, they aren't a 1-year rental at WR away from contending, they should be using their draft picks to build toward the future.

It doesn’t matter if they contend or not. If you draft a QB early, it’s malpractice not to do everything possible to surround him with the necessary talent that aids his development.

What does more to help acclimate Caleb to the NFL as a rookie…a 4th round pick or one of the best zone beating WRs in the league? And for the record, DJM is one of the very best man beaters, so they are being very intentional about the fit as well.

If he plays the first 6 games of Caleb’s career and nothing more, it’s a great move.

They still need offensive line help

Sure but trading a 4th for Keenan Allen doesn't really have much impact on their OL. There is still room the draft and FA to improve it.

The skill guys can’t get the ball if the offensive line isn’t giving the QB time.

They definitely need to improve their line but thats independent of the Allen trade.

 

[Faust]

Chargers GM Joe Hortiz discusses Keenan Allen decision: 'I knew who I was trading'

 

[menobrown]

I don't understand the move from the Bear's side, they aren't a 1-year rental at WR away from contending, they should be using their draft picks to build toward the future.

It doesn’t matter if they contend or not. If you draft a QB early, it’s malpractice not to do everything possible to surround him with the necessary talent that aids his development.

What does more to help acclimate Caleb to the NFL as a rookie…a 4th round pick or one of the best zone beating WRs in the league? And for the record, DJM is one of the very best man beaters, so they are being very intentional about the fit as well.

If he plays the first 6 games of Caleb’s career and nothing more, it’s a great move.

They still need offensive line help

Sure but trading a 4th for Keenan Allen doesn't really have much impact on their OL. There is still room the draft and FA to improve it.

The skill guys can’t get the ball if the offensive line isn’t giving the QB time.

They definitely need to improve their line but thats independent of the Allen trade.

I don't really see the Bears OL as much of a problem, not sure I understand where this is coming from. I'm sure they'd like to improve, add some quality depth, but it's not something I think is viewed as a major weakness.

 

[Faust]

Keenan Allen aims to 'play as long as I can,' open to extension with Bears

 

[jm192]

Dude had an absolutely insane year.

He finished as WR 8 in 0.5 PPR. 108 receptions on 150 targets for 1263 yards and 7 TD's. IN 13 GAMES. He missed 4 games and finished as a top 10 WR. That is nuts.

His 17 game numbers would have been: 141 receptions on 196 targets, 1652 yards, 9 touchdowns.

It's hard to look at that and think he's slowing down or lost a step.

Downsides: Moving to Chicago is almost certainly a QB downgrade. Herbert has proven he's very good. Williams, while I think he's better than Fields, is likely going to have some rookie growing pains. Keenan also won't be getting the absolutely insane volume he saw with the Chargers.

He's 32. I really don't like the age. He missed 4 games last year and 7 games the year before. Can his body hold up for the majority of this season?

Fantasypros has him at WR31. FBG has him at WR34. If he's able to stay healthy and doesn't have a significant slow down, he can return value from that point.
But at 32, having missed 11 games over the last 2 years, how much confidence can we have?

 

[Faust]

Dwain McFarland
Small sample, but Keenan Allen had 100% route participation with Caleb Williams today.

When the team went to 12 personnel he stayed on the field, with D.J. Moore and Rome Odunze rotating for the other spot.

47% of Keenan's snaps were from the slot -- mostly in 11 personnel.

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[Faust]

Brendan Sugrue
I knew I wasn't crazy. @AlbertBreer had the weights of the Bears receivers last week in his column and he listed Keenan Allen at 230 pounds. I was shocked.

With JT saying he looked slow in his Caleb breakdown, that had me thinking about his weight.

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[oswizzle]

Just a heads up … don’t know if this means anything or not … but word is Keenan’s dealing with a bruised Heel at the moment

 

[oswizzle]

He might sit a couple games btw

 

[BespokeJort]

He might sit a couple games btw

Source? Sleeper says he was back at practice today and sounds like coach was calling it a cleat issue

 

[Snoopy]

Rapoport is saying Allen is expected to play today.

 

[3nOut]

IMO, I doubt he sits for Caleb’s debut. That said, how much will he play and is he flex-worthy?

 

[Faust]

Adam Schefter

Bears WR Keenan Allen is inactive tonight due to his heel injury.

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[pecorino]

Any injury news on Allen?

 

[zamboni]

Any injury news on Allen?

We’ll probably know more tomorrow when they start practicing.

 

[menobrown]

Any injury news on Allen?

We’ll probably know more tomorrow when they start practicing.

Not practicing

 

[steelwind]

This smells plantar fasciitis.

 

[mrfrood]

What was his injury last year? Wasnt it the heel?

 

[TampaMike19]

I’d also be sand bagging if I got sent to this organization and see wtf is going on lol

 

[Faust]

Jesse Morse, MD
Keenan Allen has been ruled out for Week 3.

Not ideal.

This injury to his plantar fascia must be closer to a partial tear, similar to what Justin Herbert had.

So far I was really wrong about him.

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[the spanker]

Jesse Morse, MD
Keenan Allen has been ruled out for Week 3.

Not ideal.

This injury to his plantar fascia must be closer to a partial tear, similar to what Justin Herbert had.

So far I was really wrong about him.

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Has anyone confirmed a partial tear? I can't find anything to confirm this is true.

 

[Bad_Mo2]

Jesse Morse, MD
Keenan Allen has been ruled out for Week 3.

Not ideal.

This injury to his plantar fascia must be closer to a partial tear, similar to what Justin Herbert had.

So far I was really wrong about him.

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Has anyone confirmed a partial tear? I can't find anything to confirm this is true.

Dude was sitting on waivers before this last weekend. Scooped up and am curious if it was a wasted move.

 

[Gally]

Jesse Morse, MD
Keenan Allen has been ruled out for Week 3.

Not ideal.

This injury to his plantar fascia must be closer to a partial tear, similar to what Justin Herbert had.

So far I was really wrong about him.

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Has anyone confirmed a partial tear? I can't find anything to confirm this is true.

Dude was sitting on waivers before this last weekend. Scooped up and am curious if it was a wasted move.

worth the shot for the time being. I did the same thing.

 

[the spanker]

So in other words nobody knows nothing about the extent of his injury. Got it. Hoping it's not serious.

If it was, wouldn't the team had put him on IR?

 

[nittanylion]

Jeff Man's on his XM show today, *opined*, and I stress **opined** , that there's an announcement forthcoming that Keenan Allen is retiring from football.

Any Bearsguys or other folks with their ears to the ground hear anything even remotely close to this being anything more than speculation?

 

[BadHombre]

Jeff Man's on his XM show today, *opined*, and I stress **opined** , that there's an announcement forthcoming that Keenan Allen is retiring from football.

Any Bearsguys or other folks with their ears to the ground hear anything even remotely close to this being anything more than speculation?

Allen supposedly approached the Bears for a contract extension during the offseason. Not sure how he goes from that to retiring in a few weeks.

 

[-jb-]

Jeff Man's on his XM show today, *opined*, and I stress **opined** , that there's an announcement forthcoming that Keenan Allen is retiring from football.

Any Bearsguys or other folks with their ears to the ground hear anything even remotely close to this being anything more than speculation?

Allen supposedly approached the Bears for a contract extension during the offseason. Not sure how he goes from that to retiring in a few weeks.

have you listened to the guy? he's a pill.

 

[Bad_Mo2]

Drop Allen or Chase Brown for Jauan Jennings?

 

[zoonation]

Drop Allen or Chase Brown for Jauan Jennings?

i would.

 

[menobrown]

Drop Allen or Chase Brown for Jauan Jennings?

Depends on a lot of factors to me.

I am projecting Kittle back in week 4 or 5 and Deebo back in weeks 5 or 6. As great as his game was I just don't know he's that usable when they are both back. My projections for when they will return could be off of course, but for me I'm just viewing Jennings as a 1-2 week play and then he reverts to a Deebo/Aiyuk handcuff or not worth rostering any longer.

So for me it depends how bad I need a player right now, how weak/thin am I at RB knowing we've had a lot of injuries this year and Chase Brown is next man up and could take on a bigger role without an injury. And assuming Keenan recovers, and right now I have no reason to think his season is over, I think the odds are higher he'll be a lot more useful to your teams after a few weeks.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Drop Allen for Jauan Jennings?

negative imo

 

[oswizzle]

I told u guys In the off season he’s complaining about his foot … I’m surprised he played the first game … and knowing Keenan he’s not gonna sniff that field until Williams shows more signs of life … bro Keenan is so lazy in the off season … videos games … weed… pick up basketball… zero gym effort in the gym or conditioning

 

[menobrown]

Practiced today and sounds to me like he's on track to return.

This heavy investing Odunze owner is disappointed but this should put to rest retirement or sandbagging talk for now.

 

[Smack Tripper]

Feet don’t heal at his age

 

[FairWarning]

As a Bears fan, just not feeling it with Allen. I would rather have Odenze in fantasy.

 

[JohnnyU]

As a Bears fan, just not feeling it with Allen. I would rather have Odenze in fantasy.

Rode hard and put out wet

 

[the spanker]

As a Bears fan, just not feeling it with Allen. I would rather have Odenze in fantasy.

11 targets first week is worth keeping around on the bench.

 

[efactor]

As a Bears fan, just not feeling it with Allen. I would rather have Odenze in fantasy.

11 targets first week is worth keeping around on the bench.

Exactly. It's not like you are expecting past production but if you can add him to the end of your bench after someone drops him, seems like a good move.

 

[the spanker]

As a Bears fan, just not feeling it with Allen. I would rather have Odenze in fantasy.

11 targets first week is worth keeping around on the bench.

Exactly. It's not like you are expecting past production but if you can add him to the end of your bench after someone drops him, seems like a good move.

And their run game is atrocious right now. I can envision them throwing at a high rate because that's the strength of their team.

If KA can stay on the field he's gonna eat.

 

[Bad_Mo2]

Practiced. 11 targets from rookie QB who seems to adore him is a good combo

 

[WhatRox]

give this one more week? looking at Juju and Tolbert and considering they might have more upside.

 

[zoonation]

I’m holding.

 

[Lansdowne]

Jeff Man's on his XM show today, *opined*, and I stress **opined** , that there's an announcement forthcoming that Keenan Allen is retiring from football.

Any Bearsguys or other folks with their ears to the ground hear anything even remotely close to this being anything more than speculation?

Keenan Allen may not be retired but so far he’s played like someone who has but hasn’t told the rest of the league. Going from the best season of his career to being on pace for his worst. What a dramatic change from a year ago. It’s early but still.