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WR Kenny Golladay, NYG (1 Viewer)

Was targeting Jones quite a bit this year in best ball. Thankfully I ended up missing and getting Golladay in a few, lol. Kid is talented. I still think they could alternate big weeks, hard to say. But Stafford needs to get his head on straight so these guys can feast. And you know Tate is guaranteed 6+ targets a game. 

 
I also happen to think that great play by Golladay, going after the defender and laying him out to get the ball back, instantly put him in great standing with Patty Melt.

 
Looking at starting Golladay over a gimpy Goodwin as WR2 or in the flex over Cohen.

So looking for more about the downsides -- it's clear he's super talented and the team can rely on him, but how much of this performance was game flow/script, and how truly reliable do we think this level of targets are?
As far as gameflow garbage time honestly did more for Tate’s stat line than it did for Golladay’s.

The Lions didn’t go into dumpster fire mode until the 3rd quarter.  I don’t have target stats by quarter but just watching the first half he looked like the teams #1 receiver. Pretty sure he was your first half target leader.

Red zone FBG stats say he got one RZ target I don’t remember it.  Jones and Tate’s RZ targets stuck out, they might still be main WR options there.

All I know is if you told me Golladay finishes this season as a top 20 fantasy WR that was exactly the kind of week1 I’d expect him to have.

 
Golladay was dropped in my 12 team ppr last night.  I am debating using my number one waiver priority to pick him up.
I think he was probably dropped in a lot of leagues.  There's no way he can sustain that pace for the whole season. Might as well cut bait now before the bottom falls out.

 
As far as gameflow garbage time honestly did more for Tate’s stat line than it did for Golladay’s.

The Lions didn’t go into dumpster fire mode until the 3rd quarter.  I don’t have target stats by quarter but just watching the first half he looked like the teams #1 receiver. Pretty sure he was your first half target leader.

Red zone FBG stats say he got one RZ target I don’t remember it.  Jones and Tate’s RZ targets stuck out, they might still be main WR options there.

All I know is if you told me Golladay finishes this season as a top 20 fantasy WR that was exactly the kind of week1 I’d expect him to have.
First half targets:

Golladay-7, Tate-5, M Jones-4, Riddick-2, K. Johnson-2, TJ Jones-1.  Golladay's RZ target came on 1st and goal at the NYJ 6 on the last drive of the half when Detroit kicked the FG

Second half targets:

Tate-11, M Jones-5, Golladay-5, TJ Jones-1, RBs/TEs-8.  Three of Golladay's targets came in the final drive with Cassel as QB

 
Yeah, glad I got Babytron in both real leegs that I'm in. 

Should be ten+ a game, running with with the firsts and Matty-Patt, etc.  Love the look for Golladay.  

 
Yeah, glad I got Babytron in both real leegs that I'm in. 

Should be ten+ a game, running with with the firsts and Matty-Patt, etc.  Love the look for Golladay.  
I hope so but I think Detroit will be the kind of offense where the ball is spread out a lot. Tate, Jones and KG should alternate quite a bit.

 
I hope so but I think Detroit will be the kind of offense where the ball is spread out a lot. Tate, Jones and KG should alternate quite a bit.
I agree with this although I think the targets will be more concentrated than they've ever been with Ebron out of the picture. It's similar to LAR where it's only Kupp, Cooks, Woods and Gurley who see work in the passing game. If it's mostly just Tate, Jones, Golladay and Riddick seeing work than all of their floors raise a tad, especially if DET once again can't run the ball and has to lean on their short passing game as an extension of their run game. 

Also look at the type of routes Golladay ran in week 1 and compare it to the types of routes Ebron ran as a Lion. Now look at the types of routes Jones' runs. Everyone assumed that Tate could see a bump with Ebron gone but I noticed when watching film on Golladay last year that his route tree was very similar to Keelan Cole's, where he was utilized heavily in the short/intermediate passing game with vertical passing work sprinkled in. Golladay is probably DET's most well-rounded receiver. 

 
I agree with this although I think the targets will be more concentrated than they've ever been with Ebron out of the picture. It's similar to LAR where it's only Kupp, Cooks, Woods and Gurley who see work in the passing game. If it's mostly just Tate, Jones, Golladay and Riddick seeing work than all of their floors raise a tad, especially if DET once again can't run the ball and has to lean on their short passing game as an extension of their run game. 

Also look at the type of routes Golladay ran in week 1 and compare it to the types of routes Ebron ran as a Lion. Now look at the types of routes Jones' runs. Everyone assumed that Tate could see a bump with Ebron gone but I noticed when watching film on Golladay last year that his route tree was very similar to Keelan Cole's, where he was utilized heavily in the short/intermediate passing game with vertical passing work sprinkled in. Golladay is probably DET's most well-rounded receiver. 
Wow nice analysis SSND!

 
I agree with this although I think the targets will be more concentrated than they've ever been with Ebron out of the picture. It's similar to LAR where it's only Kupp, Cooks, Woods and Gurley who see work in the passing game. If it's mostly just Tate, Jones, Golladay and Riddick seeing work than all of their floors raise a tad, especially if DET once again can't run the ball and has to lean on their short passing game as an extension of their run game. 

Also look at the type of routes Golladay ran in week 1 and compare it to the types of routes Ebron ran as a Lion. Now look at the types of routes Jones' runs. Everyone assumed that Tate could see a bump with Ebron gone but I noticed when watching film on Golladay last year that his route tree was very similar to Keelan Cole's, where he was utilized heavily in the short/intermediate passing game with vertical passing work sprinkled in. Golladay is probably DET's most well-rounded receiver. 
Great point about Ebron.

 
Detroit homers or those in the know - Tate in the final year of his contract. Do we foresee him coming back?
30 will be 31. Not ancient for a wr, but these New England dudes seem like the type to move on with younger cheaper players when they can. Too bad because tate usually performs.

 
New Golladay owner here.  Really tempted to start him over Cooper in my flex spot.  My eyes tell me this is Detroit's WR 1 even though Jones and Tate are pretty good.   Or, is this just new toy syndrome?   Who are u guys starting Golladay over this week?   Or, sitting Golladay for?   

 
New Golladay owner here.  Really tempted to start him over Cooper in my flex spot.  My eyes tell me this is Detroit's WR 1 even though Jones and Tate are pretty good.   Or, is this just new toy syndrome?   Who are u guys starting Golladay over this week?   Or, sitting Golladay for?   
Starting him over ARob, Cooper Kupp.

 
Starting him as my #2 WR/TE over Jimmy Graham, Tyler Lockett, Mike Williams and now, sadly, Josh Gordon.

 
New Golladay owner here.  Really tempted to start him over Cooper in my flex spot.  My eyes tell me this is Detroit's WR 1 even though Jones and Tate are pretty good.   Or, is this just new toy syndrome?   Who are u guys starting Golladay over this week?   Or, sitting Golladay for?   
Like I've mentioned before. Golden Tate is probably out of town next year and Marvin Jones I always thought was a product of Matthew Stafford and not vice versa.

 
Well I’m the guy that traded penny/Gallup for fitz/Kennyg so I’m betting that he is the real deal and that Detroit moves on from either Tate or jones in the next year. Or both...

 
New Golladay owner here.  Really tempted to start him over Cooper in my flex spot.  My eyes tell me this is Detroit's WR 1 even though Jones and Tate are pretty good.   Or, is this just new toy syndrome?   Who are u guys starting Golladay over this week?   Or, sitting Golladay for?   
I'm starting Golladay over Marvin Jones.  I think Sherman covers Jones leaving Golladay as Stafford's primary target this week.

 
New Golladay owner here.  Really tempted to start him over Cooper in my flex spot.  My eyes tell me this is Detroit's WR 1 even though Jones and Tate are pretty good.   Or, is this just new toy syndrome?   Who are u guys starting Golladay over this week?   Or, sitting Golladay for?   
Am definitely starting him over Amari, but not over Kupp. Trying to decide b/w Golladay and Stills for WR3

 
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Am definitely starting him over Amari, but not over Kupp. Trying to decide b/w Golladay and Stills for WR3
I'm struggling with this, almost solely due to the fact that LAR is -13 where as DET is getting 6 points. I like Kupp's match-up against Budda Baker more than I do Golladay's against Sherman/Witherspoon but if the LAR vs. ARI game is as much of a blow-out as Vegas thinks Kupp probably doesn't have as high of a ceiling as Golladay this week. Although Kupp's RZ usage can make that statement look silly.

I'm also not so sure it's going to be Jones that sees the most of Sherman. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but Sherman primarily plays on the offensive right, no? If so, then Golladay will likely see the most of him tomorrow as he lined up on the right on 50% of his snaps last week. 

It's not an easy decision and I'm not even sure which way I'm leaning. 

 
 but if the LAR vs. ARI game is as much of a blow-out as Vegas thinks Kupp probably doesn't have as high of a ceiling as Golladay this week. Although Kupp's RZ usage can make that statement look silly.
SSND—good point, and for context, I’m going with Kupp for his high floor in our 2 ppr league.  My week two opponent has already rolled out Mixon, Justin Tucker and Ravens D with minimal return, and his WRs and TE are weak. 

 
Is Sherman even healthy and/or the same player he was back in the heyday of the Legion of Boom?
Here’s some videos of Sherman getting burned at 49ers camp.  

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/richard-sherman-got-absolutely-torched-at-49ers-training-camp-and-heres-the-proof/amp/

Doubt he was in shape then, but still he’s getting burned in those videos.  No slouch CB for sure but most guys don’t comeback from that injury and play at the same level.  Seattle certainly didn’t think he’d be the same player.

 
Is Sherman even healthy and/or the same player he was back in the heyday of the Legion of Boom?
I thought both Sherman and Witherspoon looked good vs. MIN. I mean, Diggs did make Sherman look silly on occasion but Diggs can do that to anyone and Sherman struggles with more agile dudes like Diggs. And even on Diggs' TD, Witherspoon's coverage was good, Kirk just made a perfect throw.

There's a reason Kirk targeted Thielen a lot and it's because I believe it's easier to attack SF between the numbers, which is why I like Tate this week. But even then, Golladay moves around a decent amount. He moved around a lot more in the 1st half of last week's game before mostly lining up on the right in the 2nd half vs. NYJ. I don't know what spurred the halftime adjustment, maybe DET saw something they wanted to exploit. But it's also why I think Golladay sees a fair share of Sherman this week.

 I still think Golladay can do well, especially since I think he'll see a fair amount of targets again this week (~8). Of course, I would love to see another dominating performance. 

 
Have Golladay in over Cooper Kupp (for now)

Need 3 and currently have Keenan Allen & Davante Adams rounding out.   Keeping an eye on Adams and may sub in Kupp

Will be off line shortly so I'll have to fax in any further updates.

 
This is now a 3 WR offense.  If we were drafting today, I wouldn’t value KG differently than Jones/Tate (at least negatively).

In Week 1, 4 TE’s combined for 66 offensive snaps.  I like Jones, but I also think he’s not really a true WR1.  Opportunity seems squarely there for KG to ascend to that role in DET.  

 
Trying to decide Golladay over Adams. Currently have Golladay in. What is giving me pause is that I'm also playing Golden Tate.

Still, probably going to leave Golladay in.

 
so was marvin jones typically running his routes against sherman? with golladay on the other side?  I found this tidbit in the shannahan post game presser

https://www.ninersnation.com/2018/9/17/17868780/49ers-lions-news-transcripts-kyle-shanahan-jimmy-garoppolo-richard-sherman

You’re looking at a million things, could you help noticing that QB Matthew Stafford threw left like 20 out of 21 times there at the end. He wasn’t even looking at RB Richard Sherman’s side. Does that register or what does that mean to a defense when a quarterback isn’t even looking to his right?

“A lot of it has to do with whether we’re playing man or zone and usually you have your single receiver over there. A lot of it has to do with - the ball was on the left hash sometimes when you’re in a three-by-one. When the ball is on the left hash and it’s man, that guy’s going to be alone all day. I saw a number of times like that. You’re right I can’t look up all day, so I’m not sure how many times it happened. I think the way Richard has been playing in these two games, I think it’s pretty smart of them to not go at him that much.”

 
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so was marvin jones typically running his routes against sherman? with golladay on the other side?  I found this tidbit in the shannahan post game presser

https://www.ninersnation.com/2018/9/17/17868780/49ers-lions-news-transcripts-kyle-shanahan-jimmy-garoppolo-richard-sherman
From what I could tell, they would throw short to the RB more often going right (and there were lots of dump offs to RBs in this game), but the long shots were usually to the left. The three missed long bombs by Stafford were all on the left, two of which targeted Jones

 
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Sorry for the selfish post but literally torn and looking for opinions:

My Landry and Henry (He can keep in 9th next year) for his...

Golladay (Will keep in 14th round next year - main reason for trade) and Cohen

I don’t think he’ll do that. Was hoping Henry would show more to start the year. His only step down at RB is Booker and that’s literally a throwaway - not sure I’m willing to go that far. TIA pals. 

 
Think I've seen 3 deep balls to Jones go off his fingertips, figure they will connect, but Golladay's production has me wondering if the main outside wr for Lions is Golladay.  How do people see Jones vs Golladay stat wise for rest of season? 

 
hounder said:
Think I've seen 3 deep balls to Jones go off his fingertips, figure they will connect, but Golladay's production has me wondering if the main outside wr for Lions is Golladay.  How do people see Jones vs Golladay stat wise for rest of season? 
Tate > Golladay > Jones

But the gaps are not huge. 

 

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