I think you are better off with Shakir than those guys. those guys nice lotto tickets but I'm a lot more sure of Shakir in terms of being a useful fantasy asset. Moss and Singletary are close but I'd still take Shakir over themFinally got a share, and like others a round past ADP!And then when I adjust next draft and try to take him a round earlier still, *bam!* he goes a round earlier than that.
Was choosing between Rome & Shakir in the 7th, and Shakir made it all the way back. Cost me Spears, Singletary, Moss & Ford, so that sucked, but at least I finally have a share.
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WR Khalil Shakir, BUF (1 Viewer)
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
That’s why pulled the trigger.
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
What are people's expectations of Shakir? I saw his name mentioned on this forum weeks ago so took a late flier on him. Without Diggs he seems primed for some decent PT?
Buffalo's leading receiver, top 10 in fantasy. That's my expectation.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Likely going to take a while to sort, but I took Shakir in a couple of leagues with the hope he'd be the Bills leading WR.
That said, that could also be Kincaid. But I'm not very high on Coleman, and Shakir showed a lot late in the season last year.
BlackCrowes
Footballguy
hoping for WR25-WR30. Solid WR3
efactor
Footballguy
Just traded for him in my 16 team dynasty today, so hope you are correct sir
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
That’s where I’m at. Anything more is a bonus.
EBF
Footballguy
One of my guys in the 2022 draft. Here are my comments from May 2022:
If you've been holding him all this time, this is the moment you've been waiting for. Whether he succeeds or fails, at least we know he has a clear path to a lot of targets. Either he pops and you have a weekly starter or he flops and you can move on (dynasty). From a redraft standpoint, ~WR55 seems like a nice entry price given the lack of competition for looks. Samuel is whatever and I wasn't blown away by Coleman. Even if Coleman is eventually good, he probably won't be good right away. Kincaid and Shakir are the two pass catchers on this roster who look like good redraft plays to me. I ended up getting Khalil in my draft as my 6th WR (10 team league), which I feel great about. Good guy to target in more casual leagues where the lack of name-brand familiarity will push him down the board. Even if his name is on the cheat sheet, a lot of people will feel uneasy about pulling the trigger.
If you've been holding him all this time, this is the moment you've been waiting for. Whether he succeeds or fails, at least we know he has a clear path to a lot of targets. Either he pops and you have a weekly starter or he flops and you can move on (dynasty). From a redraft standpoint, ~WR55 seems like a nice entry price given the lack of competition for looks. Samuel is whatever and I wasn't blown away by Coleman. Even if Coleman is eventually good, he probably won't be good right away. Kincaid and Shakir are the two pass catchers on this roster who look like good redraft plays to me. I ended up getting Khalil in my draft as my 6th WR (10 team league), which I feel great about. Good guy to target in more casual leagues where the lack of name-brand familiarity will push him down the board. Even if his name is on the cheat sheet, a lot of people will feel uneasy about pulling the trigger.
I went into my draft with a plan of getting Coleman and Shakir as my WR 5 and 6 and was able to. Thought was, Allen can’t throw to just Kincaid so someone else will emerge in that offense. If either one outperforms their numbers then it’s a win. Planning to let go of the one not performing after a few weeks. We all throw darts late in the draft anyways so why not take 2 of the possible 3 WRs on the Bills starting 11 with Allen throwing the pigskin. From what I hear Coleman still has separation issues. Plus Shakir was ok down the stretch last year, why shouldn’t the chemistry continue into this year?
finfansteve
Footballguy
Coleman had separation issues playing against college CB’s it’s probably not going to get better against pro CB’s
i like the prediction. Bold.
but I think WR2 is the more realistic precition. for your prediction to come true, literally everything that happens would need to come up aces for Shakir. its not impossible. enough things are lining up for him already.
though I think he ends up as a WR2. 1000-1200 yards. 8 or 9 TD
1200 and 9 is a WR1.
maybe, but I also dont expect him to hit the top of the range. If I did I wouldnt say hes more realistic at WR2. he has the WR1 upside. I just dont know that he gets there this year
I see Shakir as a guy they drafted and developed, who came on strong at the end of his second season. Outgained Diggs in each of their last 5 games, and scored in both playoff games. Then they traded Diggs away. I believe they expect Shakir to take over for Diggs. The opportunity is there, and the alternatives are nothing special.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
ffmail4me
Footballguy
Jameson (higher ceiling IMO, although Shakir's floor may be higher)
Birdie048
Footballguy
IMHO, Shakir offers a higher "Floor" ...
Buff QB J Allen expects to hit > 3900 yards ... Who will be the beneficiary? Kincad, Shakir & Curtis Samuel all likely to get key games where they excel, but overall, Shakir offers the value.
Jameson Williams might have a higher Ceiling but in that offense, there are 2 higher priority targets ahead of him.
He is 3rd or 4th look in Det. Shakir might be 1 or 2 priority 80% of the time
TheDirtyWord
Footballguy
I was faced with the same situation.
For me, I sided with Shakir as it feels like the situation in BUF is a bit more unsettled from a target perspective which provides for the potential of a better week to week outlook if Shakir emerges.
In DET, while I actually think Williams is the higher upside play, the target competition between ARSB, LaPorta and even Gibbs feels like Williams could be quite a bit more spikey.
2-3 weeks in a row where he goes 2-27/3-46/4-32 and then 5-174-2...almost like Gabe Davis used to torture his owners with nothing for yawning periods and then just when he meets your bench - EXPLOSION.
For Shakir, the week-to-week opportunity seems there...it's a matter of whether he can seize it
VikingFrog
Footballguy
Don’t compare Jameson Williams to Gabe Davis around here. You’ll get in big trouble.
honestly they are both really nice options.
I think Shakir has a chance to actually be the #1 in that offense so I'd go for him. Williams has a lot of upside in Detroit, but also a lot of mouths to feed in that offense. Amon Ra and LaPorta are both #1 and 2 in that offense. Gibbs might be #3. While Williams is likely to break out this year, the size of the breakout may be limited because at some point one of those other players needs to lose yards in order for Jameson williams to do much more.
if one of those guys gets hurt, Williams could be the better play, but Shakir has a straight line to the #1 WR role if he wants it. only Samuel stands in the way. So the upside with him is more substantial. good QB. no competition for targets.
its a pretty sweet deal
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Faced with this choice in a draft tonight, I took Shakir. And I did so for these exact same reasons.
I felt better taking the the 1st or 2nd option in the BUF passing game over the 3rd or 4th option in DET.
But man I was close to taking Jamo.
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markrc99
Footballguy
Accordingly, Shakir is rostered in 87.7% of leagues at NFL.com. Buffalo isn't a team considered to have added, opted to move on from higher salaried players. When they made the switch at OC they wanted a more effective run game & YAC. From multiple scouting reports Shakir's best traits are quickness, route running, ball skills & YAC. Add a professional mindset & he could definitely break.
I liked him early but then got into Coleman instead, probably a mistake. Perhaps the only question is whether Shakir will factor in the red-zone & where he lines up. His YPR ranked 15th (fantasypros.com), his YPT was a league-best 13.6 (player profiler.com). Wish I had him!
I liked him early but then got into Coleman instead, probably a mistake. Perhaps the only question is whether Shakir will factor in the red-zone & where he lines up. His YPR ranked 15th (fantasypros.com), his YPT was a league-best 13.6 (player profiler.com). Wish I had him!
I'm expecting WR3-WR2 production, around 1100 yards and 6 TD
Gjallarhorn
Footballguy
Not really sure why, but I am liking this guy more and more as the season nears. Led the team in yards in a must win week 18 game and scored in both playoff games. A ton of targets are available on an elite offense. Maybe it is because I do not like Coleman at all...
efactor
Footballguy
Same
Trying to trade Addison straight up for Shakier in redraft. Just have a feeling
VikingFrog
Footballguy
Starting him without confidence this weekend.
finfansteve
Footballguy
Took him with literally the last pick in my keeper league free agent draft. 22nd. Draft near buffalo. Not sure why he wasn’t taken by my last pick but let’s see what happens with him. Hopefully good things so I can trade him by week 4 or so
Why trade if good things are happening?
The Duff Man
Footballguy
Volume and yards will be high, should sniff 1000 yards. Not sure about TDs, he is going to have to rely on the longer ones.
titusbramble
Footballguy
Pretty excited to see what he can do having acquired him in dynasty just before our rookie draft, only problem is even if he hits peak upside he's only probably at best my WR3
If this dude can start putting up WR2-3 numbers, getting him 15th round this year would be epic. I took Mostert in the 14th last year, why not Shakir this year!
If you are already set at WR the upside of Jamo Williams is too high to pass up. But if you needed a higher floor guy for roster construction then I would go with Shakir. So in your situation as outlined I am going with Jamo every time.
In his last 2 games, playoffs, he had TDs of 17 and 13 yards. Are those longer?
TampaMike19
Footballguy
Could be Allen’s version of rice or arsb. Gets open on quick routes
RenegadeRoy
Footballguy
Would love to see more targets this week. He's on my roster bubble and I like the talent and situation, but if he doesn't have a bigger target share tonight it might be cutsville for him.
LawFitz
Footballguy
I wish we all had an easy way to contextualize comments with league specifics (#teams, roster configurations, bench spots, scoring rules, keeper rules, etc). What makes perfect sense in an 8- or 10-team league with short benches and/or minimal WR requirements could sound like utter crazy in bigger leagues with tumbleweeds on the WR waivers right now. Again, context is huge.
RenegadeRoy
Footballguy
True. This is a 12 team redraft half ppr, start two WR, one Flex, one SF. I've got ARSB, (Puka), Rashee, Ridley, Khalil, and just picked up Demarcus so I've got a decent WR room with several similar type guys.
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LawFitz
Footballguy
I like Shakir over Ridley and DemRob, but beauty in the eye.
Ridley is a bit more established. he had a 1000 yard season last year. based on that alone you should value him over Shakir. I do think Shakir has better long term upside for sure and hes young to boot. but that doesnt mean I drop ridley to pick him up if he comes available on waivers.
EBF
Footballguy
My take week 1 is that Coleman was a bigger factor than I anticipated. I thought he'd be a slow learning curve guy, but they used him right away. That's not great for Shakir, though there's not much overlap in their usage or role.
3 targets is not what I was hoping for in week 1. On the other hand, he showed his quality in the limited opportunities. The Keenan Allen-like RAC skill set was on full display. I'm tempted to start him tonight, but as I have a number of options with similar projected points, I may keep him on the bench for another week. Very curious to see how he's utilized in what should be a better game script.
Week 1 was relatively inconclusive. We should get more of an idea of his importance to this team tonight.
3 targets is not what I was hoping for in week 1. On the other hand, he showed his quality in the limited opportunities. The Keenan Allen-like RAC skill set was on full display. I'm tempted to start him tonight, but as I have a number of options with similar projected points, I may keep him on the bench for another week. Very curious to see how he's utilized in what should be a better game script.
Week 1 was relatively inconclusive. We should get more of an idea of his importance to this team tonight.
RenegadeRoy
Footballguy
Liking what I'm seeing thus far.
Willie Mays Hayes
Footballguy
Shakir is legit
