Long Ball Larry
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How confident are we in him today? Feels like a trap
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WR Michael Pittman, IND (1 Viewer)
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joey
Footballguy
So confident that I’m starting Quentin Johnson over him. :(
pollardsvision
Footballguy
Not confident.
But starting him over Wicks, largely because Watson and Flacco are playing.
His problem is that ARich is not very accurate. If Flacco is playing then he’s WR2.
JamboTaylor
Footballguy
Should be much much better with Flacco 
The Gator
Footballguy
Or not!bump Pittman
VikingFrog
Footballguy
He also hurt a finger. Not sure how serious it was, but believe they said they had to pop it back into place.Or not!bump Pittman
pollardsvision
Footballguy
At this point, he might be a sabotage drop candidate.
I benched him and Waddle for Tillman in what should have been solid match-ups because I just couldn't bare to see them underperform in my lineup again.
I can forgive this one a little because the Vikings D really just put the lock down on the whole offense.
But it's not going to get much easier. Remaining schedule......BUF, NYJ, DET, NE, BYE, DEN, TEN, NYG. The JAX game is too late for most (Week 18). Some garbage time opps, but only 2 games left where the offense should have smooth sailing.
He's in the no man's land where you can't trust him to start, and can't trade him.
I benched him and Waddle for Tillman in what should have been solid match-ups because I just couldn't bare to see them underperform in my lineup again.
I can forgive this one a little because the Vikings D really just put the lock down on the whole offense.
But it's not going to get much easier. Remaining schedule......BUF, NYJ, DET, NE, BYE, DEN, TEN, NYG. The JAX game is too late for most (Week 18). Some garbage time opps, but only 2 games left where the offense should have smooth sailing.
He's in the no man's land where you can't trust him to start, and can't trade him.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
Also, between Buf, NYJ, and Detroit up next. If some combination or all of them make Flacco look as bad as Minny just did, we're going to be right back where we started with Richardson pretty soon.
zamboni
Footballguy
Wow - we knew the guy was tough, but that goes above and beyond.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Wish I’d known this. Also glad I didn’t sell low - had a few offers, but nothing that really helped me.
Has to be considered good news for those of us who roster him.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
I’ma big fan of Pittman . His QB is what worries me
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Indianapolis Colts wide receiver Michael Pittman Jr. (groin) tweaked his groin at training camp practice on Tuesday and had an ice pack on it while still in pads, according to Nate Atkins of the Indianapolis Star. Until we know more about Pittman's injury, we will consider him day-to-day. While Pittman will remain a key contributor in the passing attack for the Colts in 2025 if he's healthy, we saw last year that the emergence of Josh Downs definitely hurt his ceiling. The 27-year-old former second-rounder caught 69 of 111 targets for 808 yards and only three touchdowns in 16 games (14 starts). The less-than-stellar quarterback play from Anthony Richardson Sr. and Joe Flacco didn't help matters. Pittman also played through a back injury for much of the year. Better health would certainly help Pittman, but it's no secret that his fantasy stock has taken a hit as more of a WR4/flex heading into the 2025 season.--Keith Hernandez
Bad take IMO.
Harjiran
Footballguy
Seems like QB play hurt his ceiling more than anything.
That and a back injury that at one point had everyone thinking he was heading to IR.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Whatever the reason, he's a fade IMO. I've said it before. I do think Downs is the preferred target in Indy and with the drafting of Tyler Warren, he may very well earn that for himself. I believe both Warren and Downs earn more targets than Pittman this year, assuming health. I could be wrong, but that is my gut feeling.
Yeah, not in agreement.
Downs is this teams Jayden Reed, off the field if not in 11 personnel.
I think they’ll all be fairly close but fully expect Pittman to lead the team in targets.
I agree with this, and I wouldn't be shocked if Indy starts really slow, if both Taylor and Pittman were trade deadline guys.
I think Downs is a lot better than a Jayden Reed type. I think he's more of a Tyler Lockett type, who is more of a route runner than Reed, who is more of a RAC guy.
Ideally, Tyler Warren is quickly this team's go-to guy (otherwise he was drafted too high) and then Downs is the #2 and Pittman the #3. I also think the ADOT should be much lower this year, regardless of who the QB is, though I'd bet heavily on Jones.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I'm saying this as a Colts fan. I don't have any of the players mentioned on any of my fantasy teams. That includes, Downs, Warren, or Pittman.
My comp of Downs to Reed was not based on style but on the fact neither play when they only line up 2 WR's.
But beyond that Reed is also nothing like what you are describing, he's actually an elite deep threat.
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And I'm saying this as someone who the only player among these 3 I own in dynasty is Downs, though just one team.
I just simply view PIttman as a guy they are paying $23M to be their every down possession receiver, an arch-type tailor made for a large target share.
I got them close enough in target share I don't think it's really worth spending a lot of energy over, I just could not disagree more that Downs is any more reason to fade Pittman then vice versa.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
You seem to be forgetting someone.
I think you know Warren did not slip my mind, this convo emanated from the notion that Downs was a reason to fade Pittman or kill his upside.If Warren is a threat, he's a threat to both of them.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Not from my post 673. I gave Warren just as much love as Downs. With both together, fade Pittman.
Yes, this is what I'm saying I think is wrong and am not agreeing with, will say no more on it.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Cool.
dmac37
Footballguy
Traded him 2 years ago after they drafted AR in 2 leagues, sell high. Hoping Dimes as the starter I bought low this offseason, low risk with a possible high reward.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
I saw some rankings that had Downs ahead of Pittman. Really?
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Not terribly hard to believe, Downs avg around 15 ppg with Flacco last year. If Jones can settle in close to Flacco, Downs could have a great year.
Terpman22
Footballguy
Downs on a per snap basis and just the way he runs, he gets open pretty easily has some separation/route running prowess. The overall passing game won't be great this year and the guys that run downfield in order will be hurt the most Pierce, then Pittman and it might increase Downs' and Warren's value now that Jones is the starter. He is notoriously ranked one of the lowest ADOT starting QBs since he has come into the league, he is super risk averse.
pinkstapler
Footballguy
Not sure I'd have him ahead of Pittman, but I'd probably have them so close it's almost inconsequential. If we believe the story they are selling, Pittman played through most of last season with a busted back that would have kept most players on the sidelines the whole year. As an owner who watches all his games; I can at least say his skill level on the field seemed to take a pretty big dip from where it was the previous 3 years. I hope for a return to form; I mean this guy was mid to high end WR2 numbers on a dumpster fire of an offense.
But I'm also all in on Downs as your traditional 3rd year breakout. His metrics are undeniable. Very similar to Jayden Reed in that when he's given opportunities, he's smashing them. And then compounding that with Harmons RP data on how he tracks vs man/zone/press... I think people could easily make the case Downs should be a top 15-20WR based on talent and age alone. He's just unfortunately in a crap situation there on the Colts.
I'd say they both get a boost from Daniels starting over AR like others have noted. And Downs might get the slight edge as Terpman pointed out Danny two-nickels being a check down charlie at this point in his career. Really, if their line play is poor, he won't have much time for stuff to develop deep even if he DID want to air it out.
I'd say they are both good targets starting in the 9th round or so, and at this point would gladly take the "whoever is left" price discount as a tie breaker between the two of them.
greenmountaingoat
Footballguy
This is my least favorite WR group to target.
Pittman is good but not great
Downs is a darling of Harmon
Warren could be cannibalizing both of them in the short area
Pierce and Mitchell are both deep threats for AR who likes to throw deep but there's two of them.
Low passing completion percentage.
Just seems like the whole room is an avoid
I feel like Warren is the play but that's all strictly just upside. Projection hates all these guys.
Pittman is good but not great
Downs is a darling of Harmon
Warren could be cannibalizing both of them in the short area
Pierce and Mitchell are both deep threats for AR who likes to throw deep but there's two of them.
Low passing completion percentage.
Just seems like the whole room is an avoid
I feel like Warren is the play but that's all strictly just upside. Projection hates all these guys.
