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Wins contested catches (50/50), presents a big/physical body, tracks and high points the ball well, and had good chemistry with his QB. He's got definite weaknesses though and obviously the guy never ran track, but his pro-day times verify what you see on tape.
Thanks. When I look at him that's all I really see as well. I think the comp of him to Burress is one of the better comps of this years draft.Rookie_Whisperer said:
I agree his shoulders are knocking back and forth on that run and if he could tighten that up somewhat and not waste so much movement, he likely would have run a better time. He looks like he is fighting himself a bit on that run to me.
Aw man just when I was getting over my Treadwell PTSD comparison with this guy you had to go do that.
Its trivia. I am sure this is something that has crossed peoples minds though. I can't help it. Crosses mine just about every time I consider this guy.
Definitely some similarity with the earlier Mike Williamses, Mike Evans, Michael Thomas, Michael Irvin, Michael Floyd, Mike Wallace...
Williams:Soulfly3 said:
This is terrible and this writer should feel bad. I really try to avoid attacking people or being negative but this is junk analysis that ends up being a detriment to readers.
Yet again we disagree. I'm probably avoiding Mike Williams. I don't think he's going to be able to do what he did in college at the next level.
Just curious, have you watched a good amount of his game tape?
I'm doing my best to like the guy here but historically, are there a lot of players with his height/weight/speed measurables who succeed in the NFL? 6'4" / 218 and somewhat marginal burst numbers, he is a possession type of WR. He can lineup on both sides and has some muscle memory for running routes from all over the field, has very decent hands from what I can see, but typically his type of movement skills should be easily blanketed by NFL DBs and goes down pretty quickly after the catch.steelers1080 said:
Going back a ways but Plaxico Burress was 6'5" I believe, 4.59 40.
I have but I'll certainly be watching more.steelers1080 said:
Also Calvin at 6'5" 237 and 4.35. Although I am not sure it's fair to compare anyone to Calvin.
Yeah, I guess there are quite a few bigger guys who have excelled. Again, the guys who are 6'3" I don't think their body type gets in the way as far as lateral quickness goes but that is right on the cusp. V Jax and Brandon Marshall are guys who played and moved well at that height/weight and had almost freakish athletic ability for their size. Thanks for pointing out a few more examples.
I was scrolling down to see if anyone mentioned him. Those are video game measurables.
Yeah, Calvin is in a class all his own. Randy Moss was 6'4" but he had world class speed and elite ball skills. Probably one of the greatest, if not greatest athlete to play the position, in my opinion.
Only other prospect I can think of that could have physically been close was Pryor, but unfortunately for everyone, Pryor figured put his optimal position about 10 years too late.
It's hard to say with Williams doing on a couple of the combine drills but athletically overall he's probably last on that list.
I agree with most of this except the bolded part. Larry Fitzgerald is the poster child for football ability and college production.
Yeah agreed on football ability (didn't mean to leave him off on that one). On college production I was talking specifically about production against NFL level talent. The ACC is a much stronger conference now than the Big East was then, and Williams matched up against some absolute top level defensive talent out of conference that Fitz never really did (like I mentioned, his last two games were 100 yard receiving efforts against OSU and Alabama).
