WR Mike Williams, Retired (1 Viewer)

[Chaka]

Nice, I was looking at Calvin Ridley hoping I could get Williams + a flex level RB. I was also looking at Waller for a similar offer (weird keeper league where I have Kelce and there are several flex spots). 

Ridley is an interesting option but I might not do it straight up let alone throw in a RB (assuming you are talking redraft). You can argue that Atl is so bad there will be lots of garbage time stats but the Chargers are a good team without much of a running game or a goal line hammer. If they are winning it's because of their passing game and Williams is looking more and more like the prime red zone, goal line guy.

Beyond the nice target numbers, which I think may not be sustainable at this level (but will still remain high), it's how the Chargers are using him near the goal line that really has me so high on Williams. Herbert really seems to trust this guy to go up and get the ball in big situations too.

 

[Flying Elvis]

Looking like a league winner so far. My only caution is in dynasty where he could land in a much worse situation in 2022 if he's not extended prior to becoming a UFA. Contract year motivation... I'll likely look to sell high in the one league I own him but I have the luxury of insane depth at WR.

 

[Chaka]

Looking like a league winner so far. My only caution is in dynasty where he could land in a much worse situation in 2022 if he's not extended prior to becoming a UFA. Contract year motivation... I'll likely look to sell high in the one league I own him but I have the luxury of insane depth at WR.

Valid.

My comments are strictly redraft based. 

 

[Ilov80s]

Ridley is an interesting option but I might not do it straight up let alone throw in a RB (assuming you are talking redraft). You can argue that Atl is so bad there will be lots of garbage time stats but the Chargers are a good team without much of a running game or a goal line hammer. If they are winning it's because of their passing game and Williams is looking more and more like the prime red zone, goal line guy.

Beyond the nice target numbers, which I think may not be sustainable at this level (but will still remain high), it's how the Chargers are using him near the goal line that really has me so high on Williams. Herbert really seems to trust this guy to go up and get the ball in big situations too.

Yeah I’m talking redraft. Obviously you are really high on Williams but I am also sure there’s lots of people who remember Ridley as a top 16 pick and think he’s a great but low and/or who think Williams is a sell high. FWIW, Fantasy Pros consensus still has Ridley ranked higher ROS.

 

[Johnny Utah #9]

Of all the years I've had this guy on the end of my roster or scooped off the wire, of course he blows up the one year I don't have him. Always liked the talent but it just never worked out for him (injuries, etc.). Congrats to all who have him this year and enjoy.

 

[Amused to Death]

Of all the years I've had this guy on the end of my roster or scooped off the wire, of course he blows up the one year I don't have him. Always liked the talent but it just never worked out for him (injuries, etc.). Congrats to all who have him this year and enjoy.

I drafted him in a salary cap/auction league as a rookie and he's in the last year of the initial contract. Before the season started, I looked at him as a potential cut if I needed cap space. Now he's a weekly must-start until further notice.

 

[Hartliner]

What are you looking to trade to acquire him? 

To start I will try, to give up a lowend WR2(Robert Woods or Courtland Sutton) and most likely add in Kareem Hunt in hopes he closes the deal and make the seller feel good like they got a deal from me when I add in Hunt. 

Thankfully, my league mostly is on messenger and we are connected, helps us not fret too much about proposals. I'll either get a guy who knows what they have or is still not sure about Mike Williams is the main takeaway. My philosophy is it doesn't hurt to ask. 

But just now Field Yates just said he is a set it and forget it top 10 receiver. Act fast, the word is spreading...

 

[Chaka]

To start I will try, to give up a lowend WR2(Robert Woods or Courtland Sutton) and most likely add in Kareem Hunt in hopes he closes the deal and make the seller feel good like they got a deal from me when I add in Hunt. 

Thankfully, my league mostly is on messenger and we are connected helps us not fret too much about proposals. I'll either get a guy who knows what they have or is still not sure about Mike Williams is the main takeaway. My philosophy is it doesn't hurt to ask. 

But just now Field Yates just said he is a set it and forget it top 10 receiver. Act fast, the word is spreading...

If I was hurting at RB and deep at receiver, which I am, his trade would have my attention.  Woods & Hunt

But I probably still wouldn't pull the trigger.

 

[Sir Psycho]

Just gave up D.Montgomery and a 4th for Williams in a keeper league.

 

[Tanner9919]

Just gave up D.Montgomery and a 4th for Williams in a keeper league.

you robbed the guy  blind, you should be brought up on charges.

Montgomery ? that guy is a lesser RB , C. Patterson is even better than him right now. I had Monty his rookie season, got tired of the Trent Richardson 2.5 yards and a cloud of dust schtick. a 4th pick included? so what you made out like a bandit. 

 

[barackdhouse]

Got him for $325/1000 on FAAB prior to week 1 in an FFPC dynasty league. It was a maiden SF if that makes any difference. Nice get though.

 

[Jail]

Ridley is an interesting option but I might not do it straight up let alone throw in a RB (assuming you are talking redraft). You can argue that Atl is so bad there will be lots of garbage time stats but the Chargers are a good team without much of a running game or a goal line hammer. If they are winning it's because of their passing game and Williams is looking more and more like the prime red zone, goal line guy.

Beyond the nice target numbers, which I think may not be sustainable at this level (but will still remain high), it's how the Chargers are using him near the goal line that really has me so high on Williams. Herbert really seems to trust this guy to go up and get the ball in big situations too.

Yeah Herbert and Williams' offseason work is paying off nicely.  They actually had quite a few barely missed connections last year that would have boosted his TD total. They are more in sync this year. 

The biggest concern with Williams is injury.  He has had disc issues since he came into the league and he throws his body around quite a bit. He landed awkwardly just this week and had to come off the field.  I thought he was done,  but he came back.  

 

[Chaka]

Yeah Herbert and Williams' offseason work is paying off nicely.  They actually had quite a few barely missed connections last year that would have boosted his TD total. They are more in sync this year. 

The biggest concern with Williams is injury.  He has had disc issues since he came into the league and he throws his body around quite a bit. He landed awkwardly just this week and had to come off the field.  I thought he was done,  but he came back.  

Yeah, injury is absolutely a huge concern.  For me that clouds his value in dynasty, but in redraft I'm rolling the dice.  Herbert to Williams is real deal in 2021!

 

[GreenNGold]

Yeah I’m talking redraft. Obviously you are really high on Williams but I am also sure there’s lots of people who remember Ridley as a top 16 pick and think he’s a great but low and/or who think Williams is a sell high. FWIW, Fantasy Pros consensus still has Ridley ranked higher ROS.

Anyone who still has Ridley ranked higher than Williams should lose their fantasy "pro" status. 

 

[Ilov80s]

Anyone who still has Ridley ranked higher than Williams should lose their fantasy "pro" status. 

Well it’s the majority of “experts” then.  Or at least was as of a couple days ago. Ridley is ranked as WR14, Mike at 16. Ridley hasn’t been great but I will say he’a got more of a track record, is getting a lot of targets, is getting a massive share of the Atlanta air yards and is top 3 in RZ targets. The issue is they aren’t using him down field. That seems like something that can be fixed.

 

[GreenNGold]

Well it’s the majority of “experts” then.  Or at least was as of a couple days ago. Ridley is ranked as WR14, Mike at 16. Ridley hasn’t been great but I will say he’a got more of a track record, is getting a lot of targets, is getting a massive share of the Atlanta air yards and is top 3 in RZ targets. The issue is they aren’t using him down field. That seems like something that can be fixed.

Atlanta can't be fixed, at least not this year.  

 

[Chaka]

Well it’s the majority of “experts” then.  Or at least was as of a couple days ago. Ridley is ranked as WR14, Mike at 16. Ridley hasn’t been great but I will say he’a got more of a track record, is getting a lot of targets, is getting a massive share of the Atlanta air yards and is top 3 in RZ targets. The issue is they aren’t using him down field. That seems like something that can be fixed.

Ridley is a stud no doubt but Mike Williams at #16 feels criminally undervalued ATM.

 

[Ilov80s]

Atlanta can't be fixed, at least not this year.  

Maybe but Atlanta doesn't need to really be fixed. Just keep feeding him the ball and start taking a couple shots down field with him. 

 

[Faust]

Mike Williams caught 1-of-4 targets for 11 yards in the Chargers' Week 4 win over the Raiders.

Justin Herbert missed Williams on what likely would have been an 82-yard touchdown in the first half when Williams torched backup CB Damon Arnette off the line and had multiple steps on him only to see Herbert badly overthrow him down the right side. The two later tried to hook up again on a deep shot, but Herbert was pressured and sailed one out of bounds. Herbert's four targets were tied for fourth on the team. The Raiders appeared to stick CB Casey Hayward on him a lot of the night. Williams will bounce back and remains a WR1/2 in fantasy ahead of a Week 5 date with Cleveland.

Oct 5, 2021, 12:13 AM ET

 

[Blackbear]

Looks like he is getting the attention of shut down guys. 

 

[kface]

went in so confident trailing by 15 with both waller and williams last night and lost..ugh.  Herbert missed him on that long td though so that's promising

 

[Tau837]

Looks like he is getting the attention of shut down guys. 

I don't think the Raiders have a shut down corner. I certainly wouldn't call Hayward that.

 

[TampaMike19]

mike Williams is back baby 

 

[Timmay]

I think it was Ekeler and the TE's (Cook and Parham) time to eat. Raiders weren't able to stop any of them. Bounce back next week for Allen and Williams. 

 

[fightingillini]

Hard for Mike Williams to eat when 1) Herbert misses him on a couple of long attempts, and 2) easy to see that LAC gameplanned to attack the linebackers/nickel corners with the TEs and RBs, and 3) LV couldn't stop the run (Ekeler looked phenomenal last night).  Even Keenan Allen had a quiet game since most of his catches were like running plays.

He should rebound but maybe he isn't the WR1 that we thought he might be.

 

[barackdhouse]

It was just a bad game. 

 

[oswizzle]

Hayward effect.... Those guys all know each other so well.... Ive hooped with Casey, Mike and Keenan on the same team before... and believe it or not Casey Hayward is more ball dominant then both of them and he sucks at hooping .

 

[Timmay]

Bad game through no fault of his own. He was missed on 2 deeper throws and wasn't targeted much because of the game plan. 

 

[papacapps]

Hayward effect.... Those guys all know each other so well.... Ive hooped with Casey, Mike and Keenan on the same team before... and believe it or not Casey Hayward is more ball dominant then both of them and he sucks at hooping .

This sounds about right.  It reminds me of the time Michael Jordan, Bugs, and I had to defeat the Monstars and save the Looney Tunes.

 

[oswizzle]

Casey is really short… can’t shoot… Keenan is solid but doesn’t play any defense and Mike is decent…at least he can dunk… I forgot to mention Derwin …he was really good… I guess add Elmer Fudd to your team now…btw can u guess which 2 of those players smoke like Cheech and Chong ? 

 

[Instinctive]

I gotta wonder on some of these games: how does a guy who has been destroying everyone for four weeks as wide freakin open as he is on the 2nd TD today? I've seen more totally blown coverages this year than in a long time it feels like.

 

[CanaBuc]

I think he should change his first name to Leegwinna!

 

[Smack Tripper]

Was able to get him for aj brown this week, pumped!

 

[dipandglide]

What a shift in value for MW and his dynasty stock. The talent has always been there. He needed to stay healthy and get more targets. It helps Herbert is tossing him passes. Stay healthyyyy

 

[ShamrockPride]

Was able to get him for aj brown this week, pumped!

That's a killer win for you dude. Good on ya.

 

[Faust]

Mike Williams caught 8-of-16 targets for 165 yards and two touchdowns in the Chargers' Week 5 win over the Browns.

After Williams' lackluster one-catch Week 4, he predictably rebounded against Cleveland, working over fill-in CB A.J. Green after Denzel Ward went down with a neck injury. Williams' touchdowns were 72- and 42-yard bombs. Nobody even covered Williams on the 42-yarder. The 16 targets mark a new season-high on a day Justin Herbert threw 43 passes. Williams has seen double-digit targets in 3-of-5 games and has six touchdowns on the year. He has at least 82 yards in 4-of-5 outings. Williams will be a WR1/2 next week against the Ravens.

Oct 10, 2021, 7:50 PM ET

 

[Macdaddy_2004]

Didn't practice all week and is probably not playing this sunday

 

[Stinkin Ref]

Didn't practice all week and is probably not playing this sunday

do you have a link or something to the bolded part or just speculation on your part since he hasn't practiced...?

 

[foxco]

Didn't practice all week and is probably not playing this sunday

Just read HC is "hopeful" he can play... so saying there's a chance at least lol. 

 

[barackdhouse]

Yeah not looking great

 

[TampaMike19]

Knee swelling is never great, especially when you already have an injury history and you're 6'4" 220 lol

Ask John wall and Westbrook!

 

[travdogg]

Would lean toward Williams sitting, based on "hopeful to play" and a bye week next week. 

 

[Chaka]

Would lean toward Williams sitting, based on "hopeful to play" and a bye week next week. 

Even if he plays at this point you have to be concerned about an early exit or him being primarily a decoy.

 

[Tau837]

Would lean toward Williams sitting, based on "hopeful to play" and a bye week next week. 

Agree. As a Chargers fan, if it would help him at all to recover better for the rest of the season, I'd prefer that he miss the game this week and not even make the cross country trip.

 

[CanaBuc]

Check out the Los Angeles Chargers Instagram feed. You will see Mike Williams walking with Herbert and purposely bouncing his knees and saying I'm good

He has no limp nor does he have any wrap on his knee.

If he suits up are we starting or is there fear he could be a decoy?

https://instagram.com/stories/chargers/2685885487841038907?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&utm_medium=copy_link

 

[Macdaddy_2004]

Well he is traveling with the team so there is hope

 

[menobrown]

@JFowlerESPN

1h

Chargers WR Mike Williams, listed as questionable with a knee injury, is expected to play barring a pregame setback, per source. NFL leader with six touchdown catches should be in fold for Ravens game.

https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN/status/1449545806034448384

 

[Faust]

Source: Los Angeles Chargers WR Mike Williams (knee) expected to play vs. Baltimore Ravens

 

[bcat01]

Are we starting him?

 

[Amused to Death]

Are we starting him?

I have Claypool in right now, struggling with the same question if we can trust him.