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WR Nathaniel “Tank” Dell, HOU (1 Viewer)
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Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
This is a detailed and informative statement. Much appreciated.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
That bouncer likely isn't paid more than about $15 an hour, big time bravery stepping up and disarming the 16 year old
Tank Dell is extremely lucky that bullet didn't do some real damage
This kid is starting to scare me, injury last year shortened a sensational rookie year, now the shooting, hope he drives around town carefully.
Tank is burning thru his nine lives quickly
jm192
Footballguy
I really struggle with him.
I think Nico really earned his stripes down the stretch, and is the most obvious outside WR of the trio.
Diggs is the big name, and they're probably going to feed him early and often to keep him quiet.
I would assume Dell winds up as the slot guy, but maybe they run Diggs out of the slot.
Either way, I don't think the path to tons of targets are there. Not in 2024.
I think Nico really earned his stripes down the stretch, and is the most obvious outside WR of the trio.
Diggs is the big name, and they're probably going to feed him early and often to keep him quiet.
I would assume Dell winds up as the slot guy, but maybe they run Diggs out of the slot.
Either way, I don't think the path to tons of targets are there. Not in 2024.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
31/32 attempts per game from Stroud in his rookie year... "Lowish" numbers, that I expect to increase a few digits.
The opportunities are there, and most importantly the quality of those attempts will be there. #3 coverage on Dell is like the heavens opening up. He couldn't be stopped when he was getting 1/2 coverage.
ZADO
Footballguy
it`s going to be biblical
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I statted out Stroud for 35 PA per game. Dell was on a 17g pace for 142 targets in his 8 starts. He and Nico both have a great connection with CJ. Big believer in both.
How Diggs fits in the distribution is one of the big mysteries of the offseason. I figure two of them will be Top 24 WR and hopefully Diggs continues to have an ADP between the two. I think Tank is the best value. I know the popular narrative is Stefan’s WR6/WR7 production over the back half was bc of the OC switch. I’m dubious he stops the slide/decline but I could be wrong.
Like all three tbh - def targeting HOU QB/WR in redraft. But there is uncertainty about who plays outside and who sucks up the market share.
How Diggs fits in the distribution is one of the big mysteries of the offseason. I figure two of them will be Top 24 WR and hopefully Diggs continues to have an ADP between the two. I think Tank is the best value. I know the popular narrative is Stefan’s WR6/WR7 production over the back half was bc of the OC switch. I’m dubious he stops the slide/decline but I could be wrong.
Like all three tbh - def targeting HOU QB/WR in redraft. But there is uncertainty about who plays outside and who sucks up the market share.
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crushedspirit
Footballguy
One thing is for sure, Nico rarely leaves the field as the undisputed X and I believe he offers the highest floor of all three.
I think Tank has a little boom/bust vibe, but I have no doubt think he will cash in some big weeks. Biggest question will be consistent production.
I think Tank has a little boom/bust vibe, but I have no doubt think he will cash in some big weeks. Biggest question will be consistent production.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Love him for Best ball '24 but as an every week starter where you have to set your line-up every week, not as much
Up-DOWN, Up-Down, gonna drive some FFM nuts this season
Up-DOWN, Up-Down, gonna drive some FFM nuts this season
I think the way the legal winds appear to be blowing, I'd take Rice of that group. Probably could make an argument for any of the other 4 after that.
Grid71
Footballguy
Me. I like Rice better, but ADP wise I draft Dell around the 3rd/4th turn. Rice in the 5th (was 6th but rising)
Flowers, Cooper and Pickens I have lower on the list than the other 2.
Best ball WR exposures have Rice #1 at 36% Dell #3 at 16% (double field).
tommyGunZ
Footballguy
Dell owner here - very frustrating lack of targets thus far but the fact that the Texans are involving him in the running game gives me reason to believe they know he needs touches. At 2-0 no reason for huge changes but it wouldn't surprise me if a focus the next couple of weeks is getting Tank more involved.
I'll be starting him.
I'll be starting him.
Terpman22
Footballguy
Got a guy trying to really dump him on me in a dynasty. I need WR help. But this guy is currently WR57 when Stroud is QB11. Nico WR2 and Diggs WR22 (PPR). Just don't see a way this guy has value this year.
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
Buy low right now after the Bears game. They have one of the best secondaries in the league. This passing game is getting ready to take off.
Houston turmOiler
Footballguy
Think the biggest problem has been pass protection. I feel like they're looking to hit some deeper big plays to him, but inside twists and stunts are really giving the OL fits. He and Stroud also seem a little bit off. Dell also had a bad drop on a broken play that possibly could have been a long TD against Chicago. Sure hope some big plays are coming... that drop probably cost me a game last week.
ATB
Footballguy
Vikings are probably a top 3 defense right now though. Doubt this week is much better.
⚡DEADHEAD⚡
Footballguy
A little softer touch from Stroud on one of his passes to Dell Sunday night and we might not be having this discussion. Would have been 6. But I do think there are many mouths to feed.
Krilons Resa
Footballguy
Tank Dell and Chris Olave are the top 2 BUY LOWs right now, imo.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
When Diggs was added it started to confuse things
Option 1 -Nico Collins - Not just leading in targets with 18 but he has produced a lot of yds and TDs with his catches
Option 2- Diggs, he has 6 targets both weeks, I would expect a few more when they are not leading the entire game...also not sure CJS understands how to utilize him just yet
Option 3, Dell and he has 11 targets thus far, just missed on a couple of them or his stats would be better
-I don't think the Texans have any big plans to make Dell their #1 WR option
I also just point to massive size difference in Nico vs Tank Dell, they are NOT doing the same things on this offense
Nico has his role and everyone seems comfy with him as the lead WR
Injuries would shuffle things around but right now Dell is a Boom/Bust Wr3/Flex most weeks
Diggs will be more steady but have a definite ceiling most weeks, Dell could pop off for 100/2TD with just 3-4 catches
My take so far
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TampaMike19
Footballguy
I feel Houston is basically running Collin’s into the ground lol. He’s just so unfair out there but that’s a lot of work for a big dude and to also take the big hits he does, plus run block.
Dells time could be coming as the Texans will need to take to the air but they will be easier to defend with mixon hobbled as mixon is great at keeping things on schedule
Vikings defense has been pretty insane with pass rush so I’m not sure how many deep shots will be there! Still starting him though I think
Dells time could be coming as the Texans will need to take to the air but they will be easier to defend with mixon hobbled as mixon is great at keeping things on schedule
Vikings defense has been pretty insane with pass rush so I’m not sure how many deep shots will be there! Still starting him though I think
WaltonGoggins
Footballguy
He's going to have a big game this Sunday.
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
Feel like we are on the Tyler Lockett Rocket... whole lotta mid and then the 150/3 splash weeks after you benched him
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
Any reason behind this? @ Minny vs Flores doesn't seem like a cakewalk matchup
Lansdowne
Footballguy
Collins has put the league on notice so he's probably going to command more coverage. Plus there is still Diggs doing work. Eventually Dell is getting his, and I have to think Stroud will want to get him more involved soon. That's considering he has 11 targets to Diggs' 12 despite the lack of production. Dell is probably going to be high variance this year (as he was at times last year), but he can win your week when he does get involved.
cantstop1999
Footballguy
I traded waddle for dell, was this a good move ?
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
One year wonder
Houston turmOiler
Footballguy
Not looking good moving forward
TampaMike19
Footballguy
Yeah- confused on what to do going forward. He basically did nothing all game and Davis Mills kinda saved his line. But going to Nico Collins 4 times in the red-zone, and 0-4? That is beyond ridiculous lol
12-15% target share is really not going to get it done. Think he's glued to my bench going forward, can't cut him though.
Minnesota's defense was the real story and star of the game though. Looking like a juggernaut.
efactor
Footballguy
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
I 100 percent agree.
With this cover 2, figured they'd find some daylight with Dell underneath, not even a thought
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Sure seems that way so far
TampaMike19
Footballguy
Oh you mean this in the sense that CJ seems like a quiet guy and now has loud mouth Diggs in his ear threatening to yell if he doesn't get the ball.
Well, that ain't helpful is it? lol
Diggs had a nice PPR day but was it difference making? He's a rich man's Tyler Boyd at this point judging by the receptions and stats and metrics.
crushedspirit
Footballguy
The other alarming stat from yesterday,
As discussed prior to the season, Diggs was probably going to eat into Dell's snaps and production while leaving Nico alone as the only X in this offense.
As discussed prior to the season, Diggs was probably going to eat into Dell's snaps and production while leaving Nico alone as the only X in this offense.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
The OC doesn’t seem on top of his game this year
The o-line looks terrible
Stroud is clearly struggling
I’m not a Diggs fan, and would love for this to be his fault…..but……
The o-line looks terrible
Stroud is clearly struggling
I’m not a Diggs fan, and would love for this to be his fault…..but……
massraider
Footballguy
Was that the discussion prior to the season?
Not in this thread.
I didn't see too many sell recommendations on Tank anywhere.
TampaMike19
Footballguy
What are people buying with dell? Talented second year breakout wr who actually already broke out? I think you could sell that- reality right now is much different but I’d be hesitant to sell him regardless. If anything he is a buy but don’t feel you’ll ever get to buy him low
