I think it depends on whether you're looking to acquire for the longer term and if his current owner is worried and willing to sell at a discount. For this season I don't think he'll produce well apart from a game here and there. The offense is a shambles and I think Kitchens is in over his head. Mayfield is brutal. And so on. I'll admit to being a Beckham truther (obviously - my avatar) and I have to say I'm a bit worried, but within a reasonable range -- it could be that his days as a top 4 dynasty WR are behind him, but I'm not ready to assume that just yet. He still looks special out there to me: fluid, fast, explosive. He's obviously struggling along with the rest of the offense. But Mayfield could come around, Kitchens could be replaced or could grow into the HC role more (I do think he wasn't ready and should be replaced but I wonder if the Browns pull the trigger after one year).How low is his value in dynasty sinking? I have him in one league and was thinking of acquiring in another, but not sure I want to be doubling down on the Browns at this point.
Apparently Baker looks worse than Eli.Holy crap how did it get so bad?
This offense is showing the tell tale signs of a coach trying to fit players into his scheme, not tailoring a scheme to fit the talent around you. Mayfield isn't this terrible, but the playcalling sure doesn't fit his talent set.2nd time I watched CLE...first time was the NYJ game. Even back then, something felt off. But last night...wow. Mayfield has regressed terribly. They’re using OBJ as a gadget guy. The whole thing felt so discombobulated.
Plus, you can tell OBJ is pressing...that punt return was ridiculous, both in terms of its carelessness and it’s visions of grandeur.
Kitchens should be one and done.
He may not be this terrible, but he certainly looks spooked right now. This bailing out of the pocket thing with him is a concern. I know his OL stinks, but once you start seeing/feeling ghosts...This offense is showing the tell tale signs of a coach trying to fit players into his scheme, not tailoring a scheme to fit the talent around you. Mayfield isn't this terrible, but the playcalling sure doesn't fit his talent set.
It's easy to claim every players problems on coaching. It's a lot worse than that. Mayfield should hit the bench for a week or 2 because he is completely rattled and playing brutal. And he's making the line look even worse because he's stepping right towards the pressure. Just blitz to the right side and he doesn't know what to do. This is getting into Gabbert territory it was so bad this week.This offense is showing the tell tale signs of a coach trying to fit players into his scheme, not tailoring a scheme to fit the talent around you. Mayfield isn't this terrible, but the playcalling sure doesn't fit his talent set.
Exactly. Beckham is in good company this year with guys like Hopkins and Evans. And I’ve seen posts in other forums (e.g. DLF) about whether Hopkins is starting to decline. It’s worth constantly evaluating guys in dynasty but sometimes you have to wait things out on young talented players, especially ones with proven track records. I’m awful about looking forward, constantly peeking over exit value ledges. So I get it. But some deep breathing is good policy here.To pump the brakes on this pity party, OBJ isnt scoring much less than some guys whom people are excited over. It's just the expectations were super high and he isnt getting the volume to make up for the poor offense (surprise).
I'm thinking they're using him as a gadget guy because Mayfield isn't targeting him much and able to get him the ball. They just want to make him happy so they will keep trying to give him the ball, but it is definitely forcing the issue.2nd time I watched CLE...first time was the NYJ game. Even back then, something felt off. But last night...wow. Mayfield has regressed terribly. They’re using OBJ as a gadget guy. The whole thing felt so discombobulated.
Plus, you can tell OBJ is pressing...that punt return was ridiculous, both in terms of its carelessness and it’s visions of grandeur.
Kitchens should be one and done.
They have a top 3 WR in Beckham, arguably the best slot receiver in the league with Landry, and a solid RB in Chubb who can catch the ball. The offense needs to be quicker shots to get these guys in space. The little I've seen from this offense has been longer reads, shots downfield and Mayfield getting clobbered.He may not be this terrible, but he certainly looks spooked right now. This bailing out of the pocket thing with him is a concern. I know his OL stinks, but once you start seeing/feeling ghosts...
I love these takes. Designing plays to get one of your best playmakers the ball in space is done to "make him happy".I'm thinking they're using him as a gadget guy because Mayfield isn't targeting him much and able to get him the ball. They just want to make him happy so they will keep trying to give him the ball, but it is definitely forcing the issue.
Obviously there is more to it than just that, but I think it plays a role, even just a small one.Wise Old Owl said:I love these takes. Designing plays to get one of your best playmakers the ball in space is done to "make him happy".
I'm thinking you might be able to wait till after New England or Buffalo games.Anyone looking to buy low?
I just bought him & DeSean Jackson for Waller (had Kittle too) and Calvin Ridley. This was before the MNF game.I'm thinking you might be able to wait till after New England or Buffalo games.
I have A-Rob and I'm not even sure I want to offer him in a package for OBJ.
The FBG Top 200 stuff gets pretty interesting sometimes. Right now with my league settings, it says that Odell has less value than RB3 types like Ronald Jones, Royce Freeman, Miles Sanders, Shady McCoy, and that either Breida or Coleman would be a significant overpay.Anyone looking to buy low?
v. Seattle after the recent stretch of gamesAnyone looking to buy low?
The Top 200 forward really needs to be better. it's all over the place every day. Some players bye's mess it all up. In my setting OBJ is WR13 rest of season (behind DJ Chark)The FBG Top 200 stuff gets pretty interesting sometimes. Right now with my league settings, it says that Odell has less value than RB3 types like Ronald Jones, Royce Freeman, Miles Sanders, Shady McCoy, and that either Breida or Coleman would be a significant overpay.
I'd buy all day if that's all it takes.
FWIW, Dave Richards (CBS) has Odell in a tier with guys like Josh Jacobs, James Conner. Sounds a lot more reasonable IMO.
I am this week.What sucks is you cant bench him.
how low would you buy?is he a buy low or are the browns this bad
so my main league is a modified keeper league...i need wr helphow low would you buy?
Edit: what is the most youd pay?
That sounds like total BS.Browns rumored to be listening to offers for Odell
https://dailysnark.com/cleveland-browns-rumored-to-be-listening-to-trade-offers-for-odell-beckham-jr/
This would be fantastic.Browns rumored to be listening to offers for Odell
https://dailysnark.com/cleveland-browns-rumored-to-be-listening-to-trade-offers-for-odell-beckham-jr/
Gentleman ruined his persona?This guy is 100% miserable in Cleveland. He has been faking it. Gettleman ruined his persona by dealing him to the Browns.
Redraft? What did you give up?I traded for him...i fell like i'm going to regret it
Oh please god, go to the pats.Browns rumored to be listening to offers for Odell
https://dailysnark.com/cleveland-browns-rumored-to-be-listening-to-trade-offers-for-odell-beckham-jr/
Any situation would be better than the Browns, but I'm skeptical OBJ lands with the Pats. It would be too good to be true, at least from a fantasy perspective.Oh please god, go to the pats.
That article mentions the Redskins. Oh please do not let this happen.Browns rumored to be listening to offers for Odell
https://dailysnark.com/cleveland-browns-rumored-to-be-listening-to-trade-offers-for-odell-beckham-jr/
Browns GM John Dorsey called Odell Beckham trade rumors "fake news."
Beckham hasn't quite clicked with Baker Mayfield yet, leading to speculation he could be dealt ahead of the October 29 trade deadline. However, Dorsey was adamant that OBJ won't be going anywhere at or before that date, noting he hasn't taken any calls on Beckham and doesn't plan to. The former Giant is still on pace for over 1,000 yards receiving, though his numbers are inflated by a walk in 89-yard touchdown (his only end-zone visit of the season to this point) in Week 2.
SOURCE: ESPN.com
Oct 13, 2019, 11:10 AM ET
I will believe it when I see itOBJ gonna eat today.
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"[With] a great matchup against Tre Flowers who’s allowed the most receiving yards on the outside, I think this is truly a day that [Odell] Beckham is back" - @notJDaigle
Yup. Living on reputation from a fantasy football standpoint. Looking at a 50 yard day.I will believe it when I see it