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WR Rashee Rice, KC (6 Viewers)

Folks are shameless when it comes to FF
I replied to the single 1st offer with “so I paid Geno, Bateman, and a 2026 1st for Rashee, and you think this is a good offer?” (Suprflex)

He responded that he wasn’t aware of what I paid, but that he thought it was a “fair” offer. Uh huh. In a 16 team start 3 WR PPR league where it’s like pulling teeth to get a WR.
:rolleyes:


There’s always some version of this dude in every one of my leagues.
 
Guarded optimism here.

I expect 50 percent snaps next week

Then a bye

Then maybe we get him up to speed.

The best Rice move may be trading him this week, I have a Barkley owner fishing for him right now. I remember Josh Gordon coming back and really stinking after the long layoff
You mean trading for him or trading him away?
Trading him away
Why would it be 50% snaps? He hasn’t been injured, and reportedly he’s been practicing.

Very puzzled by this prediction. Guess we’ll see what happens. I’d be amazed if you’re right about that.

As for Barkley for Rice, as a Rice shareholder I’d consider that a disappointingly low offer.
 
Guarded optimism here.

I expect 50 percent snaps next week

Then a bye

Then maybe we get him up to speed.

The best Rice move may be trading him this week, I have a Barkley owner fishing for him right now. I remember Josh Gordon coming back and really stinking after the long layoff
You mean trading for him or trading him away?
Trading him away
Why would it be 50% snaps? He hasn’t been injured, and reportedly he’s been practicing.

Very puzzled by this prediction. Guess we’ll see what happens. I’d be amazed if you’re right about that.

As for Barkley for Rice, as a Rice shareholder I’d consider that a disappointingly low offer.
Yeah, I don’t see the Chiefs easing him back in. I see the opposite in fact. Lot of targets to get him ready for the Commanders and Bills games coming up. Raiders will be a very busy tune-up.

I think anyway
 
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I can see them easing him in. Two weeks in a row the offense has looked extremely functional without him.

Seems unlikely they’ll need to unleash him with a full slate of targets to beat Vegas.

Then a bye in week 10. Doubt he pays off the way most are hoping until that stretch run. But, it could be a Hell of a run for those that have done well without him and could afford to be patient.
 
They may ease him in a little but I consider him a must start immediately and if I was drafting for ROS he’d be a first round consideration player. Mid-second latest.
 
He hasn’t played in over a year. Extrapolating quite a bit here thinking he’s an 8-10 catch per game player right off the bat.

I’m tempering expectations but would love to be wrong.
 
reportedly he’s been practicing

He was not allowed to take the field with the team during his suspension, so today was the first day he has practiced since before the regular season. As I understand it, he was able to participate in activities off the field, like meetings.
Right but he hasn’t been hurt and not practicing. He’s reportedly in good shape, and has been engaged with the team.

50% snap count would be shocking to me.
 

Just wait till next week, both Smith-Schuster and Worthy said.

“I’m so excited, man,” Smith-Schuster said. “I’m so excited.”

“Oh, man. Everybody’s been waiting for it,” Worthy said, beaming in front of his locker. “It’s what the hype is about.”

However, in a celebratory postgame locker room, the Chiefs’ offensive players didn’t want to talk about that. Instead, they wanted to dream about what’s ahead.

“That dude is stronger, faster, smarter. He’s got it all, man,” Smith-Schuster said, speaking after seeing Rice around the Chiefs’ facility recently. “Those weeks he’s been off and away from us, he’s been working so hard.”
 
Guarded optimism here.

I expect 50 percent snaps next week

Then a bye

Then maybe we get him up to speed.

The best Rice move may be trading him this week, I have a Barkley owner fishing for him right now. I remember Josh Gordon coming back and really stinking after the long layoff
You mean trading for him or trading him away?
Trading him away
Why would it be 50% snaps? He hasn’t been injured, and reportedly he’s been practicing.

Very puzzled by this prediction. Guess we’ll see what happens. I’d be amazed if you’re right about that.

As for Barkley for Rice, as a Rice shareholder I’d consider that a disappointingly low offer.
Yeah, I don’t see the Chiefs easing him back in. I see the opposite in fact. Lot of targets to get him ready for the Commanders and Bills games coming up. Raiders will be a very busy tune-up.

I think anyway
I had thought when you were serving suspensions you couldn't be with the team.

If he's been getting practice reps it would be different
 
Guarded optimism here.

I expect 50 percent snaps next week

Then a bye

Then maybe we get him up to speed.

The best Rice move may be trading him this week, I have a Barkley owner fishing for him right now. I remember Josh Gordon coming back and really stinking after the long layoff
You mean trading for him or trading him away?
Trading him away
Why would it be 50% snaps? He hasn’t been injured, and reportedly he’s been practicing.

Very puzzled by this prediction. Guess we’ll see what happens. I’d be amazed if you’re right about that.

As for Barkley for Rice, as a Rice shareholder I’d consider that a disappointingly low offer.
Yeah, I don’t see the Chiefs easing him back in. I see the opposite in fact. Lot of targets to get him ready for the Commanders and Bills games coming up. Raiders will be a very busy tune-up.

I think anyway
I had thought when you were serving suspensions you couldn't be with the team.

If he's been getting practice reps it would be different
He’s still able to work out tho.
 
Rice is in shape, knows the team, knows the playbook. Hes not a rookie and has been in the system.

How long did it take Buka or Tet to contribute? Pretty much week 1. Rice should be ahead of whatever their progress was.
 
Guarded optimism here.

I expect 50 percent snaps next week

Then a bye

Then maybe we get him up to speed.

The best Rice move may be trading him this week, I have a Barkley owner fishing for him right now. I remember Josh Gordon coming back and really stinking after the long layoff
You mean trading for him or trading him away?
Trading him away
Why would it be 50% snaps? He hasn’t been injured, and reportedly he’s been practicing.

Very puzzled by this prediction. Guess we’ll see what happens. I’d be amazed if you’re right about that.

As for Barkley for Rice, as a Rice shareholder I’d consider that a disappointingly low offer.
Yeah, I don’t see the Chiefs easing him back in. I see the opposite in fact. Lot of targets to get him ready for the Commanders and Bills games coming up. Raiders will be a very busy tune-up.

I think anyway
I had thought when you were serving suspensions you couldn't be with the team.

If he's been getting practice reps it would be different
He’s still able to work out tho.
But practicing with the team? I think its just a different level and intensity and integration working in with practice reps

I mean is he even getting hit?

Its not an all purpose red flag on him but to think he steps back in to 2024 Week 3 Rice... I think thats gonna take a minute

I own him, I'm glad to, I'm probably forced to ride him given the Ebuka injury but I am listening to see if someone wants to overpay.
 
Guarded optimism here.

I expect 50 percent snaps next week

Then a bye

Then maybe we get him up to speed.

The best Rice move may be trading him this week, I have a Barkley owner fishing for him right now. I remember Josh Gordon coming back and really stinking after the long layoff
You mean trading for him or trading him away?
Trading him away
Why would it be 50% snaps? He hasn’t been injured, and reportedly he’s been practicing.

Very puzzled by this prediction. Guess we’ll see what happens. I’d be amazed if you’re right about that.

As for Barkley for Rice, as a Rice shareholder I’d consider that a disappointingly low offer.
Yeah, I don’t see the Chiefs easing him back in. I see the opposite in fact. Lot of targets to get him ready for the Commanders and Bills games coming up. Raiders will be a very busy tune-up.

I think anyway
I had thought when you were serving suspensions you couldn't be with the team.

If he's been getting practice reps it would be different
He’s still able to work out tho.
But practicing with the team? I think its just a different level and intensity and integration working in with practice reps

I mean is he even getting hit?

Its not an all purpose red flag on him but to think he steps back in to 2024 Week 3 Rice... I think thats gonna take a minute

I own him, I'm glad to, I'm probably forced to ride him given the Ebuka injury but I am listening to see if someone wants to overpay.
He’s gonna be fine dude. This is a massive overreaction to some time off.
 
Guarded optimism here.

I expect 50 percent snaps next week

Then a bye

Then maybe we get him up to speed.

The best Rice move may be trading him this week, I have a Barkley owner fishing for him right now. I remember Josh Gordon coming back and really stinking after the long layoff
You mean trading for him or trading him away?
Trading him away
Why would it be 50% snaps? He hasn’t been injured, and reportedly he’s been practicing.

Very puzzled by this prediction. Guess we’ll see what happens. I’d be amazed if you’re right about that.

As for Barkley for Rice, as a Rice shareholder I’d consider that a disappointingly low offer.
Yeah, I don’t see the Chiefs easing him back in. I see the opposite in fact. Lot of targets to get him ready for the Commanders and Bills games coming up. Raiders will be a very busy tune-up.

I think anyway
I had thought when you were serving suspensions you couldn't be with the team.

If he's been getting practice reps it would be different
He’s still able to work out tho.
But practicing with the team? I think its just a different level and intensity and integration working in with practice reps

I mean is he even getting hit?

Its not an all purpose red flag on him but to think he steps back in to 2024 Week 3 Rice... I think thats gonna take a minute

I own him, I'm glad to, I'm probably forced to ride him given the Ebuka injury but I am listening to see if someone wants to overpay.
He’s gonna be fine dude. This is a massive overreaction to some time off.
What’s fine? Another poster said they expect first round pick WR1 production immediately. That’s 8+ catches, 100+ yards, and a TD a week.

I think that’s a pipe dream for a guy that hasn’t practiced with the team for 6 weeks and hasn’t played in a game in over a year.
 
Guarded optimism here.

I expect 50 percent snaps next week

Then a bye

Then maybe we get him up to speed.

The best Rice move may be trading him this week, I have a Barkley owner fishing for him right now. I remember Josh Gordon coming back and really stinking after the long layoff
You mean trading for him or trading him away?
Trading him away
Why would it be 50% snaps? He hasn’t been injured, and reportedly he’s been practicing.

Very puzzled by this prediction. Guess we’ll see what happens. I’d be amazed if you’re right about that.

As for Barkley for Rice, as a Rice shareholder I’d consider that a disappointingly low offer.
Yeah, I don’t see the Chiefs easing him back in. I see the opposite in fact. Lot of targets to get him ready for the Commanders and Bills games coming up. Raiders will be a very busy tune-up.

I think anyway
I had thought when you were serving suspensions you couldn't be with the team.

If he's been getting practice reps it would be different
He’s still able to work out tho.
But practicing with the team? I think its just a different level and intensity and integration working in with practice reps

I mean is he even getting hit?

Its not an all purpose red flag on him but to think he steps back in to 2024 Week 3 Rice... I think thats gonna take a minute

I own him, I'm glad to, I'm probably forced to ride him given the Ebuka injury but I am listening to see if someone wants to overpay.
He’s gonna be fine dude. This is a massive overreaction to some time off.
What’s fine? Another poster said they expect first round pick WR1 production immediately. That’s 8+ catches, 100+ yards, and a TD a week.

I think that’s a pipe dream for a guy that hasn’t practiced with the team for 6 weeks and hasn’t played in a game in over a year.
So you’re arguing what another poster said in response to me?

Maybe you should have this discussion with them, because I certainly didn’t make any lofty predictions or projections.
:shrug:
 
reportedly he’s been practicing

He was not allowed to take the field with the team during his suspension, so today was the first day he has practiced since before the regular season. As I understand it, he was able to participate in activities off the field, like meetings.
Right but he hasn’t been hurt and not practicing. He’s reportedly in good shape, and has been engaged with the team.

50% snap count would be shocking to me.
Agreed. He played in the preseason. No concern about the knee, very little concern about rust, frankly I think he'll lead the WR position in snaps (that would probably be Worthy if he were healthy) and probably have 8+ targets this week. They are excited to unleash him. I'd be treating him as a WR1 instantly, especially given the state of the position right now.
 
This whole easing him in idea is wild. He's not a rookie. He's not returning from injury. It's basically just his first game this year. Do coaches ease in their players on the first game?
 
I doubt they ease him in at all. Maybe if they blow out LV they will sit him but hopefully he contributes to that blow out.

The Chiefs are .500 right now and 3rd in their division. If they were undefeated or 5-1 then maybe they would have that luxury.
 
This whole easing him in idea is wild. He's not a rookie. He's not returning from injury. It's basically just his first game this year. Do coaches ease in their players on the first game?
Yes. All the time. And he is returning from a major injury.
Youre way off on this one and now you're reaching for the well actually he is returning from injury card.
Well, he is.

He’s been suspended for 6 weeks to start the year. Couldn’t practice until this week. Went out week 4 last year with a torn ACL.

That’s a long time away and people are extrapolating those 4 games for him like it’s business as usual.

If Mahomes and the Chiefs were struggling on offense I’d be more inclined to think he’s coming in for a large snap share, but they aren’t.

I’m just being reasonable and tempering expectations. Don’t know how I’m “way off?” I guess I could be? But, you’re guessing just as much as I am.
 
This whole easing him in idea is wild. He's not a rookie. He's not returning from injury. It's basically just his first game this year. Do coaches ease in their players on the first game?
Yes. All the time. And he is returning from a major injury.
Youre way off on this one and now you're reaching for the well actually he is returning from injury card.
Well, he is.

He’s been suspended for 6 weeks to start the year. Couldn’t practice until this week. Went out week 4 last year with a torn ACL.

That’s a long time away and people are extrapolating those 4 games for him like it’s business as usual.

If Mahomes and the Chiefs were struggling on offense I’d be more inclined to think he’s coming in for a large snap share, but they aren’t.

I’m just being reasonable and tempering expectations. Don’t know how I’m “way off?” I guess I could be? But, you’re guessing just as much as I am.
I can get in line with this thinking. I don't think Rice will be limited physically, but perhaps the full array of designed plays will not be there to start. I also think it is a whole new level of in shape when playing actual football than doing your own thing on the side. I believe Rice did his part to be in the best possible place though.
 
I say Mahomes at least intentionally targets a couple passes to Rice to get him back into game flow. I think a couple play calls will also focus on Rice as option 1 for the same reason.

After that we will see how it plays out.
 
With all the injuries I don't have a choice and have to start plugging him in this week. For example in one league I just lost Egbuka so Rice plugs in there, in another Garrett Wilson. In others, guys like Hampton getting injured have forced my flex/bye week RB3 guy into a starting spot so I'm already short-handed at Flex if not WR. Plus Bye weeks are hitting now.
 
Coming back from ACL usually takes more than a year to be back to "normal"

Would think his timing will be off from limited practice, being in shape is good but football shape is different and
timing factor.

Not sure if I am playing him this week or not myself yet
 
What’s fine? Another poster said they expect first round pick WR1 production immediately. That’s 8+ catches, 100+ yards, and a TD a week.
I'm not sure if you are referring to my post in that comment, but if so, I'd add a few things.

What I actually said was if I was drafting for ROS he'd be a first round consideration player, mid second at latest. ROS and immediately have different timelines.

Secondly he of course would not need to put up or average 24 points, what an 8/100/1 game would be, to be worth a first round pick this week or for ROS. That would make him the WR1 overall in PPR.

In terms of considering him a must start this week. I think most people are in 12 team leagues and many that have to start 3 WR or leagues like FFPC where you can start as much as 4. But let's just look at what it takes to be a literal WR2 right now in PPR scoring this week.

The current worst WR2 in PPG, WR24, is putting up 13.375. That's not a huge bar but that player is also Tyreek Hill and he's out for the season, at least. Also 3 more WR's in the top 24 are guaranteed out due to injury or bye week and a 4th(Johnston) is likely. Now to just be the worst WR2 on the season in PPR you are down to right around the 13 PPG mark. Including in that top 24 is a player whose value Rice hurts(Marquise) and two WR's I doubt many people would be starting over Rice(Tre Tucker and Addison).

Long winded point is even if you are not in a league were you can or have to start 3 or more WR's the bar to be a top 24 WR this week is just not high. You've been floating out that 8/100/1 number but 6/60 without a TD is pretty much the range.

So to me I think it's fair to wonder if he starts a little slow and also to think he'll never get back to that volume from his first 3 games last year AND still think he's a must start and someone worth consideration as a late first/mid second at latest for ROS especially with how many of the top drafted WR's are injured or impacted by injury like Tee.
 
Coming back from ACL usually takes more than a year to be back to "normal"

Would think his timing will be off from limited practice, being in shape is good but football shape is different and
timing factor.

Not sure if I am playing him this week or not myself yet
For the record, he did not tear his acl.
Mahomes is QB1 rn playing like a 2019 version of himself.

Rice is going nuclear ROS

Rocket launch
 
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Mahomes is a different dude this year, and I think he'll want to prove that Rice is just fine. I wouldn't be surprised to see KC put up 50+, with Rice getting 8-10 catches and 100+ and a score in his first game back.
 
Mahomes is a different dude this year, and I think he'll want to prove that Rice is just fine. I wouldn't be surprised to see KC put up 50+, with Rice getting 8-10 catches and 100+ and a score in his first game back.
This is more likely than Rice getting eased back in.

This team is jacked to see Rice back in there. He's gonna get it early and often imo.
 
He is for sure taking a crossing route to the house this weekend. And the field is about to open up big time for Worthy too.

This offense is going to start smashing people now that they have the L guard figured out. They will probably win the AFC and get the 1 seed.
 
ESPN’s Jeremy Fowler reports Rashee Rice will have a “heavy workload” in Week 7 against the Raiders.
The Chiefs have no plans to ease Rice back into the starting lineup after he was suspended for the season’s first six games. Rice, according to Fowler, “has been in the building for weeks, had an excellent training camp and is in peak physical shape. A team source says Rice will be ‘full bore’ this week as he gets back onto the practice field.” It sound like fantasy managers can expect something close to a full route share and Rice’s normal role as a dominator of intermediate targets from Patrick Mahomes against a vulnerable Vegas secondary. Rice’s return will likely hurt Travis Kelce’s targets as he loses out on those intermediate looks.

“Heavy workload” doesn’t sound like 50%.
 
He's been able to physically come back for awhile, the suspension was in the way. If anything, he's had a huge (forced) ramp up to come back from injury, and he's been able to do everything he would have been doing with the team, just not with the team.

Yes, it's not totally the same, but this certainly isn't the same as him coming back as soon as possible from injury either. Godwin coming back directly from injury had 10 targets his first game. Rashee should be in an even better position to do the same with the extended ramp up.
 

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