Ilov80s
Footballguy
They seemed to really want to get him involved more- especially last year but maybe being hurt so much has caused him to lose the trust of the team.
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WR Rashod Bateman, BAL (1 Viewer)
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JohnnyU
Footballguy
I need him off one of my teams
Soulfly3
Footballguy
I say this with the utmost sincereity... I wouldnt give up more than a 3rd round pick for him. and still might hesitate
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I couldn't have been more wrong about Bateman and he has turned into one of those dynasty assets that will rot on your bench. I no longer have any shares. I recently sold him for a 2nd round rookie pick in a DEVY league and that is a league, because the rookie draft is separate from the DEVY draft, tremendously devalues rookie picks and the last pick in the round and a 14 team league. I didn't care. Somehow I don't believe that will come back to haunt me.
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JohnnyU
Footballguy
I'll believe it when I see it. True coach speak there.
Lansdowne
Footballguy
Definite coach speak. "A lot more" than 32 catches can be something like 48 catches, and I'm still skeptic he'll get that. Andrews is there, Flowers is there, they brought back Agholor, they'll probably bring another WR in FA and/or the draft, and have to think Likely will get more involved now that he's shown himself capable. That's all while factoring in this is still a run-first team. I stashed Bateman on the off-chance that he's traded, but otherwise he's a cut for me. Won't be worth anything in Baltimore.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I would love for this to be true.
As I understand it, he was still recovering a bit and didn’t have his speed back until a ways into the season.
He’s still just 24, and profiles well. I guess time (and the draft) will tell. I’m assuming OBJ is gone, so that would leave Bateman & Flowers as the 2 primary receivers?
It’ll be interesting to see how this develops.
eighsse2
Footballguy
From your lips to God's ears. Drafted the guy three years ago and drumming my fingers .......
massraider
Footballguy
Wow, I really find the "Similar Threads" suggestions below concerning.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I bought semi-low in one league, and a little too high in another. Fingers crossed. If he can become a ~50/700/5 guy I’ll count my blessings.
IIRC there was some bad blood between him & Harbaugh for social media comments or something? Maybe that’ll help with a trade.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
While difficult to argue with results to-date, I still like Bateman’s chances more than any of Quez, Ty Johnson, or Isiah Coulter.
Not sure if we all get the same “similar threads” tho
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Isn that like choosing between the four ugliest girls at closing time?While difficult to argue with results to-date, I still like Bateman’s chances more than any of Quez, Ty Johnson, or Isiah Coulter.
Not sure if we all get the same “similar threads” tho
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
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Not if one of the girls was recovering from facial surgery, but a heck of a try at an analogy. Gold star.Isn that like choosing between the four ugliest girls at closing time?While difficult to argue with results to-date, I still like Bateman’s chances more than any of Quez, Ty Johnson, or Isiah Coulter.
Not sure if we all get the same “similar threads” tho
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Roster clogger.
Faust
MVP
Sarah Ellison
Todd Monken plans on getting Rashod Bateman more involved and expects a "tremendous" year:
"Oh, for sure. You know, last year was interesting in the fact that we had Odell [Beckham Jr.] and Bate had missed offseason and some of Fall camp. 'Is he going to be healthy? So put Odell at X.'
"Then in the beginning of the year, Bate gets a little banged up and so does Odell. So here you are and you're already in the season. We could've done a better job of moving them around, for sure.
"But as the year went on, Rashod really came on. And I've seen tremendous growth, but the growth is just because he didn't have an offseason last year. I didn't see that.
"But I expect a tremendous year out of him."
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Monken is saying a lot of good things. Bateman appears to be long past injury and headed for a clear-cut role as the WR2, which puts him 3rd in targets behind Andrews & Flowers.
Injury could open up even more targets for him.
I was wondering why I was all of a sudden receiving offers for him in all 3 leagues I have him. Nothing worth taking, but still.
Bateman was a favorite of mine coming into the NFL. And he’s still just 24. Big, fast, good hands, runs sharp routes.
Injury has derailed a promising career, but he could still have that 3rd year breakout.
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Lansdowne
Footballguy
It would be a 4th year breakout at this point (wild how time flies) but I could see Bateman really benefitting if one of Andrews/Flowers goes down to injury. I can’t seem to quit him, there’s just something about him. I was too enamored in the pre-Draft process. While I’m not crazy about his situation, I still believe in the talent and still think he can be their X-receiver. He’s an end of the bench guy so if he doesn’t pan out I can just
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
You got tired of him clogging your roster so you dealt him for a dude who (checks notes) is probably getting suspended at least half the season?
foxco
Footballguy
I just offered Bateman & the 2.08 for the 2.04 in one league. Figure I'll try and get a small bump somewhere if possible. Pretty tired of carrying him, would rather have Jason Bateman at his point. Maybe even Justine.
eighsse2
Footballguy
Yeah this sounds like the move I had to make with Gallup two offseasons ago. Moved up from like 3.02 to 2.10 or something.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I don’t know… Y’all have held on this long. Sounds like you’re giving him away for nothing rather than wait. A couple months to see if the hype is real. This is Monken‘s second season is OC, and he sounds awfully excited about Bateman‘s potential.
eighsse2
Footballguy
Yeah, I don't think I'll be selling yet. Our draft isn't until August or September.
Gatorade
Footballguy
I'll have him hopefully for the playoffs and then full time after in dynasty.You got tired of him clogging your roster so you dealt him for a dude who (checks notes) is probably getting suspended at least half the season?
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Unless he does some other stupid ish and is out of the league in a year. Or in prison. Or both.
You got Rice straight up?
Sheesh. That's a great deal, even if Rice is suspended half a season. Bateman is at best the #3 option on a team that typically throws for less than 3800 total yards.
eighsse2
Footballguy
Only if he has a super breakout (whether due to teammates' injuries or not), or for like a "3 injury, 2 bye all in one week" fill in.
Gatorade
Footballguy
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I would have thought any kind of breakout would have happened before now. He played in 16 games last year and had 32 receptions and 367 yards and 1 TD. This will be his 4th season.
Nice deal
Less receiving yards than Likely and Agular last year. They are still on the team. Bateman is a roster clogger despite the hype and OBJ leaving.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
That’s a little better.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I believe it has been said
For comparison, Fantasy Pros has Rice WR 27 in dynasty PPR and Bateman is WR 78. Draft Sharks has Rice 36 and Bateman 74.
IMO, there is no world that you didn't crush that trade
eighsse2
Footballguy
I don't disagree. He is still a borderline cut to me. But the hyping up makes it tougher. I'm sure there are uncommon cases of WR's that don't break out until year four. It can be hard to judge. The dude can't break out without targets. But whose fault is the lack of targets? Probably his own. But can he fix whatever is broken?
Coachspeak has to be taken very lightly, but the HC and OC are both saying good things.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
A lot of that this time of year. Best shape of their life, etc. Could also be trying to get something for him in a trade.I don't disagree. He is still a borderline cut to me. But the hyping up makes it tougher. I'm sure there are uncommon cases of WR's that don't break out until year four. It can be hard to judge. The dude can't break out without targets. But whose fault is the lack of targets? Probably his own. But can he fix whatever is broken?
He has talent, but I just don't see much FF upside for him. Kind of guy that will have 4-5 decent FF games, but you're lucky if you had him in your lineup on even one of those. Plus, if Henry stays healthy all season, probably be even less passing this year. Flowers and Andrews will get the bulk of the action so not a lot of scraps to go around.
There is that for sure
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MAC_32
Footballguy
As always, context matters. Injured his groin in camp 21, missed all summer reps and a 1/3 of the season, then after returning was frequently limited with the same injury- showed glimpses, but not consistently. Started trending in the right direction early '22 once the Hollywood Brown trade freed up targets, but injured his foot game 5. He returned and tried to play through, but wasn't successful and opted for the knife. Passing offense regressed without him. Ravens actions in '23 offseason (drafted Zay, signed OBJ to stupid $) indicated something was up then about this time last year complications with his foot surgery surfaced. Missed camp because of them and Ravens managed his workload all season, but when OBJ departed this offseason they did nothing to replace him and have been pumping him up any chance they get.
Now, does that mean I'm betting on the breakout? No. Does that mean I'm trying to acquire him? Well, I was, but that window may have slammed shut this week. But there is a reason I was sprinkling in offers over the last few months, throw-in types of deals, and I was able to secure him in all but one league. In the relative strong likelihood he doesn't pan out, it'll be easy to move on from him and I didn't give up much capital to find out with him on my roster. There's a qualified narrative to latch onto to see how he can beat those odds and at a ~WR70 price, why not buy? I much prefer using the end of my roster on this type that I'll know what to do with by midseason rather than someone I need to hold onto longer and lacks a ceiling.
