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WR Xavier Restrepo, TEN (3 Viewers)
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Ministry of Pain
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I like him a lot, not a frontline No 1 WR but has all the tools to be a strong No 2
Good separation but can make tight catches, good knack for the end zone in the red zone
Can play in the slot and outside, runs good routes and all of the QBs that have worked with him, loved him
I have seen 2nd-3rd Rd for him, steal for anyone that drafts him
Watched him for a couple years down here in South Florida, didn't know there wasn't a thread on this guy
Even if he were drafted by a team with a solid 1-2 at WR like say the Eagles, he could easily carve out the WR3 spot in the slot and exploit defenses
He would be better served going to a team with at least 1 established WR, you can't say that about all the other WRs
Good separation but can make tight catches, good knack for the end zone in the red zone
Can play in the slot and outside, runs good routes and all of the QBs that have worked with him, loved him
I have seen 2nd-3rd Rd for him, steal for anyone that drafts him
Watched him for a couple years down here in South Florida, didn't know there wasn't a thread on this guy
Even if he were drafted by a team with a solid 1-2 at WR like say the Eagles, he could easily carve out the WR3 spot in the slot and exploit defenses
He would be better served going to a team with at least 1 established WR, you can't say that about all the other WRs
Ironman2131
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I care way more about Restrepo's times in the cone drill and other measures of quickness. Not that I know how he did on those (or if he ever ran those drills), but I don't think is 40 time is all that relevant to how he'll do in the NFL.
ZWK
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Also had really bad in-game athleticism according to PFF numbers - his 75th percentile PFF GAS (Game Athleticism Score) is way below what NFL starters usually do in college (median GAS for a starting NFL WR was about 93rd percentile among all college WRs).
Though his change of direction rating from PFF game tracking data was 88th percentile, which is about average for WRs drafted in rounds 1-3. Not terrible, but if that's supposed to be his strength then not that promising.
Though his change of direction rating from PFF game tracking data was 88th percentile, which is about average for WRs drafted in rounds 1-3. Not terrible, but if that's supposed to be his strength then not that promising.
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rockaction
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Who are these guys that are comparing him to Kelce? What ****ing planet are they on?
rockaction
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Uh, Ray, what if he runs a 4.8 even when prepared? Who said he didn't show up having gone through all the prerequisites and training? Just because you, Ray, think that if you're running a 4.8 you don't run at all, doesn't mean the kid wasn't feeling pressure so he decided to run—then after thinking (and probably actually pulling it off hand-timed) he could pull it off he had a bad run or two.
He could also be getting bad advice or guys around him outright lying to him about his time and/or there are circumstances that might lead a person in his situation to believe that he pretty much has to run or something.
This doesn't have to be about insouciance or lack of respect. It could just mean he's not that fast.
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Miami Hurricanes’ Xavier Restrepo explains his slow 40-yard dash time at UM’s Pro Day
>>Restrepo said Tuesday in a post on his personal X (formerly Twitter) account that his right hamstring tightened up during warmups before running the 40-yard dash, which “prohibited me to opening up and running my fastest.” He went on to say that he had been consistently running between 4.53 and 4.58 seconds for two weeks before Pro Day “and thought I could still pull it off.”
“I did everything just because it’s in my blood to compete,” Restrepo said in the post. “With that being said, I am now focusing on getting back to 100% healthy and getting ready to play football! Ready to let God take over!”
NFL.com draft analyst Lance Zierlein describes Restrepo as a “feisty slot-only target who has maximized his talent and honed his craft.” “Restrepo is a route chef who reeks of urgency and plays much faster than the stopwatch is likely to time him,” Zierlein continued. “His footwork, leverage and burst allowed consistent separation from man coverage on the college level but contested catches await him on the next level. His instincts, blitz recognition and talent to scramble open when plays break down will make him a favorite of quarterbacks and play-callers. Subpar length and average measurables could create some hesitation for NFL evaluators but the play and football demeanor feel translatable as a future starting slot.”<<
Probably not 3rd rounder anymore. He succeeded at the U with subpar QBing in 2023 and got better with Ward in 2024. Could be a bargain in later rounds.
>>Restrepo said Tuesday in a post on his personal X (formerly Twitter) account that his right hamstring tightened up during warmups before running the 40-yard dash, which “prohibited me to opening up and running my fastest.” He went on to say that he had been consistently running between 4.53 and 4.58 seconds for two weeks before Pro Day “and thought I could still pull it off.”
“I did everything just because it’s in my blood to compete,” Restrepo said in the post. “With that being said, I am now focusing on getting back to 100% healthy and getting ready to play football! Ready to let God take over!”
NFL.com draft analyst Lance Zierlein describes Restrepo as a “feisty slot-only target who has maximized his talent and honed his craft.” “Restrepo is a route chef who reeks of urgency and plays much faster than the stopwatch is likely to time him,” Zierlein continued. “His footwork, leverage and burst allowed consistent separation from man coverage on the college level but contested catches await him on the next level. His instincts, blitz recognition and talent to scramble open when plays break down will make him a favorite of quarterbacks and play-callers. Subpar length and average measurables could create some hesitation for NFL evaluators but the play and football demeanor feel translatable as a future starting slot.”<<
Probably not 3rd rounder anymore. He succeeded at the U with subpar QBing in 2023 and got better with Ward in 2024. Could be a bargain in later rounds.
pinkstapler
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Ray def took this a step too far (and I see him do this quite a bit, probably because hate clicks and comments give as much revenue as likes and agreeing comments lol). But, I do have to say just about however you shake it, it's not a good look. Whether it's lack of effort, lack of capability, lack of self awareness, lack of a good support group/system around him.... it's a lack of... something hah.
40 is overrated in general, and us in fantasy tend to overrate it even more by double counting it. This time will almost certainly impact Restrepo's draft capital, so while I don't care much about his 40 time, I do greatly care about where an NFL team drafts him. The reverse is true for a guy like Golden. His time now has analysts pushing him into the late first round, and putting him much closer if not above guys like Tett and Burden who he was firmly behind pre-combine. I'll ignore the 40 time but pay attention to how it's effecting his draft stock.
What matters to me with the 40 is guys who are entering the draft know it's a major part of the combine and that (when you decide to run it) it can really make an impact on how your viewed, positively or negatively. So I won't really hold it against guys deciding not to run one. But I will question the work ethic and/or capability of someone who decides to run it. Because putting up a showing that poor tends to mean they didn't prepare for it, or what's more likely, were incapable of adequately preparing for it. We should really be adding .05 to these pro-day times, so in my mind Restrepo ran a 4.9. That's not just bad, for his BMI, that's like historically bad for a WR. Hard to believe he didn't know that himself, let alone wouldn't have someone from his "team" in his ear telling him how bad that would look for him.
rockaction
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I agree with a lot of what you're saying, but that's really a Rotounderworld (who Ray used to hang out with) way to look at it. It's a two-edged **** sword, if you'll pardon my language. Most scouts and front office people probably think it's bad if you don't run, but they'll also ding you if you prove you can't. Nobody has figured out which is worse yet because guys just used to do it and go through the testing without question. Now that you've got a bunch of half-in, half-out, opt-out performances it makes it difficult.
It's a race to the bottom, like child labor laws and no-fault divorces in Nevada (if you know what I'm talking about then you're also a slight public policy wonk). In other words, if one state has either a law permitting something bad or a law that allows a certain negative or sad circumstance to be rewarded—and that way is the easy or profitable way—people will follow and go to that state in droves.
Right now, I'll bet you dollars to donuts that these front offices don't know which they dislike more and that they're doing it on an ad hoc basis. That means if you're Ashton Jeanty, you don't run because all you're going to do is hurt your stock. You've got the GPS tracker and MPH clock on you because you're a premier guy in CFB. If you're Xavier Restrepo, well, who took the time to clock that slot receiver from Miami that can't run anyway? You know what I mean. Restrepo had a lot to gain from running a decent time and in interviews he said he thought he could pull it off but his hammy tightened. So I'll take him at his word and ding him for the time anyway if I'm a scout. But I'd be hesitant to ding him for preparedness like Ray just said he would.
Because like I just said, I think it's really ad hoc in the decision process about how scouts view you if you do/don't run, so why wouldn't or couldn't a player be confused and flub the test without there being a prep issue or any problem somewhere at all? The scouts themselves don't even know how they're going to determine the run/don't run thing and there's no consistency to how it's applied. So you're in a limbo where if you're slow, you still might run.
It's all ********, frankly, and stuff like this is only going to get worse. The players that are at big-time programs or are big-time premier guys are all going to get GPS'ed up or . . . wait, they'll refuse the GPS, too. It's all a toilet bowl swirl and we're probably going to be in purgatory in this way for a long time. So I do not fault Restrepo for running, and I think Rotounderworld's stance on this is going to go the way of the dodo. When the pros don't even know whether they'll ding you for running, how can the player know whether to run or not? Seems unrealistic.
Then again, such is the NFL. Unrealistic and demanding. Beautiful and balletic. All in one.
eta* This is not a knock on Rotounderworld and Ray. This is a gentleman's disagreement, I guess, and my position cemented as I was typing, so this isn't self-assuredness to the nth degree, it's simply a thought and trying to suss it all out.
And it leads to a broader (policy) question. How do we not knock the good intentions—how do we reward, I should say—those that test and give us full disclosure, which is what we're really after? I don't know the answer because the system seems to not reward full disclosure all the time. Take Ashton Jeanty. If he goes first and doesn't test at all, what sort of incentive is that for the next year's group of guys vis a vis their testing?
It's akin to thinking that food labeling and standards are great ideas until it, say, comes to my meat product (imagine if the meat product isn't dated and inspected and sealed according to standard but you know it's good because it's a local store and butcher and you've been there a million times before) . Say I'm not willing to forego said meat product even though there's no labeling. I know deep down that's a dangerous or deleterious practice for other meat product providers who are less scrupulous, but I still love the particular meat product I love, and I'm still going to eat it. I might even draft it sixth on the menu. And I won't be wrong with that particular meat product. But it'll set a bad standard if it's all not labeled and dated in a standardized way.
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I do think there’s merit to his comment that he tweaked something, but still ran because he a competitive guy. Watch him pull up in his start and take a few strange hops, before returning to the start to run it again.
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I just think that there’s no way he runs at his pro day if he knows he’s going to put up anywhere close to a 4.8. You would have to be of rock bottom intelligence, with nobody providing you any career guidance, to do so.
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I just think that there’s no way he runs at his pro day if he knows he’s going to put up anywhere close to a 4.8. You would have to be of rock bottom intelligence, with nobody providing you any career guidance, to do so.
pinkstapler
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Pretty much agree on all fronts with the exception I do think they lean towards non-participation as better than poor participation. Though I doubt that is uniform across the league/organizations so to your point; it's still a guessing game. Very few in any of these guys are trying out for a specific team; just trying to get picked as high as possible. So ultimately what does it really even matter what separate organizations think?
I do think we are going to get more and more people just bypassing the combine. The past few years you even hear more HCs coming right out and saying "all I really care about are medicals and the interviews". I'd imagine the stat nerds are probably backing that up with analytics too pointing out how little correlation there is between the testing numbers and success when you also take their tape into account. If he looks fast on tape, running fast at the combine backs it up, and not running fast at the combine will largely get thrown away haha. I'm guessing most of what keeps the combine alive at this point is television viewership and advertising money; and then the media circus aspect where people who have a podcast with 100 listeners can throw on backpack and a lanyard to rub elbows and maybe take a picture with Shefter or McShay. IOW, social media "influencer" type event.
rockaction
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Great point.
squistion
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I have been watching his hightlight reel and he plays a lot faster than his 4.87 40 time indicates (although one could argue he would almost have to).
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He has game speed and good hands. I think he has a good chance of making the team although one probably shouldn't expect anything this year, fantasy wise, if he does.
He is simpatico with Ward (was his "go to" guy) and I can see down the line, if things break right, he could become the Titan's possession receiver.
In deep Dynasty leagues he's worth a stash (roster size permitting) and at the very least a player you should keep your eye on.
Bronco Billy
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For Pete’s sake. He had a bad hammy when he ran. He said afterward in retrospect he probably shouldn’t have run but it’s not in his nature not to compete even though he’s hurt. Watch his tape. He can play.
He’s not a burner by any stretch and he’ll likely be limited to being a slot receiver, but he’s very sudden, using angles and body shielding very well, is tough as nails and has a high football IQ and his hands are like glue. Edelman isn’t a bad comp.
He’s not a burner by any stretch and he’ll likely be limited to being a slot receiver, but he’s very sudden, using angles and body shielding very well, is tough as nails and has a high football IQ and his hands are like glue. Edelman isn’t a bad comp.
4-6 WRs have to play ST well.
His blocking is poor. He would be typical anywhere but the Titans TEs don't block well. It's gonna be noticed.
To me, his game screams "I have a ton of experience." I watched a bit and that's it. I'm no draft writer and nothing pretentious here.
There are so many raw prospects idk why you wouldn't draft this kid in just a human nature thing. You watch a zillion hours of tape, doesn't that draw you to him?
I think he's more like Derrick Mason. No intention of mentioning Titans just I don't see slot. I see smart and experienced savvy play. Bourne maybe?
Big play makers make teams. Guys that catch a lot of passes in practice don't always unless Belichick was their coach.
He's got all the tools and is very well drilled. I don't have him as a slot. In fact, I think you want to see him out wide against a zone because that savvy might lead to a consistent winner.
I don't think he has a prayer against a top CB but the league is not full of them at all. He knows suddenness and stutter step twitchiness he uses his body well....he does what ya want a WR to do. He seems very much NFL ready to me.
I just don't know if he can get noticed and get the reps he needs to make it
His blocking is poor. He would be typical anywhere but the Titans TEs don't block well. It's gonna be noticed.
To me, his game screams "I have a ton of experience." I watched a bit and that's it. I'm no draft writer and nothing pretentious here.
There are so many raw prospects idk why you wouldn't draft this kid in just a human nature thing. You watch a zillion hours of tape, doesn't that draw you to him?
I think he's more like Derrick Mason. No intention of mentioning Titans just I don't see slot. I see smart and experienced savvy play. Bourne maybe?
Big play makers make teams. Guys that catch a lot of passes in practice don't always unless Belichick was their coach.
He's got all the tools and is very well drilled. I don't have him as a slot. In fact, I think you want to see him out wide against a zone because that savvy might lead to a consistent winner.
I don't think he has a prayer against a top CB but the league is not full of them at all. He knows suddenness and stutter step twitchiness he uses his body well....he does what ya want a WR to do. He seems very much NFL ready to me.
I just don't know if he can get noticed and get the reps he needs to make it
Jahquan Jackson is a speedy little bugger. He slow walks ya and then bursts and I think he's not always right on his timing for that technique but when he is, you notice him.
He was a discussion point by announcers early in the season for his play and how Callahan may utilize him with screen passes too.(He did) Then he was a discussion point for fumbling punts and being in the doghouse.
Bryce Oliver has awesome my ball ability. I don't mean Calvin. I mean slow down, speed up, get low, get your bod in the way...he's getting the ball. It's very noticable.
Ayomanor may be a better.
Van Jefferson is savvy and experienced and why Restrepo over him?
Burks is a fantastic practice player and is probably going to do well in camp with his first round athleticism.
Everyone seems to say Dike can flat out fly.
I have a hard time believing this Restrepo gets noticed and gets the reps.
Not same position but if he's in the slot/middle and we're talking getting noticed-
The Titans have an oh my goodness blocker in international player Odukoya.
DMR is like a cult hero third stringer fan favorite type at third fourth TE.
Anywhere else- Titans aren't deep! - anywhere else on the third or fourth string he could get noticed but IDK about in the slot with that unit. I'm doubtful.
I sure wouldn't draft him in dynasty.
Pick another.
Insist? Ok then fine. I love conviction about dark horse roster guys especially UDFAs.
I think Lockett and Ridley are old and Titans youth are definitely worth a deep roster spot in dynasty.
I get more coach's kid vibes and ..the Titans don't really lack depth players so much as they lack stars that should push players to be depth.
He was a discussion point by announcers early in the season for his play and how Callahan may utilize him with screen passes too.(He did) Then he was a discussion point for fumbling punts and being in the doghouse.
Bryce Oliver has awesome my ball ability. I don't mean Calvin. I mean slow down, speed up, get low, get your bod in the way...he's getting the ball. It's very noticable.
Ayomanor may be a better.
Van Jefferson is savvy and experienced and why Restrepo over him?
Burks is a fantastic practice player and is probably going to do well in camp with his first round athleticism.
Everyone seems to say Dike can flat out fly.
I have a hard time believing this Restrepo gets noticed and gets the reps.
Not same position but if he's in the slot/middle and we're talking getting noticed-
The Titans have an oh my goodness blocker in international player Odukoya.
DMR is like a cult hero third stringer fan favorite type at third fourth TE.
Anywhere else- Titans aren't deep! - anywhere else on the third or fourth string he could get noticed but IDK about in the slot with that unit. I'm doubtful.
I sure wouldn't draft him in dynasty.
Pick another.
Insist? Ok then fine. I love conviction about dark horse roster guys especially UDFAs.
I think Lockett and Ridley are old and Titans youth are definitely worth a deep roster spot in dynasty.
I get more coach's kid vibes and ..the Titans don't really lack depth players so much as they lack stars that should push players to be depth.
