WTF is Wrong With Boxing? (1 Viewer)

[chet]

Manny won the fight hands down but the judges gave the win to Bradley.

Might be the last fight I ever watch.

 

[tdoss]

Bob Arum

 

[Pumpnick]

We have one of these thread about once a month.

 

[Softballguy]

We have one of these thread about once a month.

Nope.

 

[JuniorNB]

Been watching boxing since Ken Norton broke Ali's jaw. This is easily the worst decision I ever saw. In fact, when the first judge had it 115-113 in favor of Pac Man, I laughed because that was even an insult to his domination tonight. Bradley didn't land a single punch all night that rocked Pacquioa. He was slapping. And still landed only half of what Pac Man did. It is laughable. I can't wait to hear/see the feedback on this.

 

[slayer666]

R.I.P.

 

[Softballguy]

Been watching boxing since Ken Norton broke Ali's jaw. This is easily the worst decision I ever saw. In fact, when the first judge had it 115-113 in favor of Pac Man, I laughed because that was even an insult to his domination tonight. Bradley didn't land a single punch all night that rocked Pacquioa. He was slapping. And still landed only half of what Pac Man did. It is laughable. I can't wait to hear/see the feedback on this.

This is spot on.

 

[Marvin]

R.I.P.

I disagree. Boxing has been a sham for years. At least the last 2 decades and yet, for some reason, people will still watch/buy PPVs/etc. In six months there will be some other over-hyped joke of a match-up and 95% of boxing fans will forget how they got hosed tonight and get into it.As long as there are people with short memories boxing will still be a joke.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Been watching boxing since Ken Norton broke Ali's jaw. This is easily the worst decision I ever saw. In fact, when the first judge had it 115-113 in favor of Pac Man, I laughed because that was even an insult to his domination tonight. Bradley didn't land a single punch all night that rocked Pacquioa. He was slapping. And still landed only half of what Pac Man did. It is laughable. I can't wait to hear/see the feedback on this.

The crowds reaction told me everything ...total silence when bradley was announced as the winner...then the boos everytime bradley talked.

 

[flapgreen]

It's not a real sport at this point. Everyone knows the deal. Might as well watch pro wrestling.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

It's not a real sport at this point. Everyone knows the deal. Might as well watch pro wrestling.

Its cirque-du-boxing.

 

[Warrior]

R.I.P.

I disagree. Boxing has been a sham for years. At least the last 2 decades and yet, for some reason, people will still watch/buy PPVs/etc. In six months there will be some other over-hyped joke of a match-up and 95% of boxing fans will forget how they got hosed tonight and get into it.As long as there are people with short memories boxing will still be a joke.

Until today, there were two fighters left that people really enjoyed following. The potential megafight between these two super-human fighters was enough to keep people interested. Tonight, one of them became just another fighter.The potential for that last big "who would win?!?" megafight died tonight, as it's now almost a given that Mayweather would be the big favorite.

RIP boxing...June 2012. The final nail in the coffin was tonight.

If you want to watch something scripted, go watch the WWE. If you want REAL fights, go watch the UFC. There's no longer any place for boxing and you'll see that reflected in the PPV buys from here on out. Good riddance.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

I don't like a lot of decisions in boxing, which makes me think the sport is rigged or in need of some serious reform.

But I still like watching boxing a lot. I can't get into MMA at all.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

how does Manny become "just another fighter" if 90% of the viewers think he got jobbed on the decision? Nothing really changed in terms of the perception of Manny, IMO. He was robbed.

 

[flapgreen]

R.I.P.

I disagree. Boxing has been a sham for years. At least the last 2 decades and yet, for some reason, people will still watch/buy PPVs/etc. In six months there will be some other over-hyped joke of a match-up and 95% of boxing fans will forget how they got hosed tonight and get into it.As long as there are people with short memories boxing will still be a joke.

As the number of people who watch the fights increases, boxing will have less money. The people who are currently paying will quit and just say "#### it, i'll watch it online for free." Geez can't believe a real American sport would get so pathetic.

 

[urbanhack]

R.I.P.

I disagree. Boxing has been a sham for years. At least the last 2 decades and yet, for some reason, people will still watch/buy PPVs/etc. In six months there will be some other over-hyped joke of a match-up and 95% of boxing fans will forget how they got hosed tonight and get into it.As long as there are people with short memories boxing will still be a joke.

bingo

 

[Softballguy]

R.I.P.

I disagree. Boxing has been a sham for years. At least the last 2 decades and yet, for some reason, people will still watch/buy PPVs/etc. In six months there will be some other over-hyped joke of a match-up and 95% of boxing fans will forget how they got hosed tonight and get into it.As long as there are people with short memories boxing will still be a joke.

Until today, there were two fighters left that people really enjoyed following. The potential megafight between these two super-human fighters was enough to keep people interested. Tonight, one of them became just another fighter.The potential for that last big "who would win?!?" megafight died tonight, as it's now almost a given that Mayweather would be the big favorite.

RIP boxing...June 2012. The final nail in the coffin was tonight.

If you want to watch something scripted, go watch the WWE. If you want REAL fights, go watch the UFC. There's no longer any place for boxing and you'll see that reflected in the PPV buys from here on out. Good riddance.

I disagree. After seeing the look on Bradley's own wife near the end of the fight... the look of complete defeat... I'm convinced that everyone knows who won that fight, and they know it was as convincing as it gets. Three "judges" don't set fights. Fighters set fights. Give me Pacquiao/PBF

 

[Warrior]

how does Manny become "just another fighter" if 90% of the viewers think he got jobbed on the decision? Nothing really changed in terms of the perception of Manny, IMO. He was robbed.

Doesn't matter. The mystique is gone. He lost. He was beaten by a guy who 99% of fans didn't even know before this fight. The 7 year win-streak that made him look downright unbeatable has now disappeared. There's an asterisk beside this loss, but it's still a loss. He's no longer a larger-than-life icon.

 

[Softballguy]

how does Manny become "just another fighter" if 90% of the viewers think he got jobbed on the decision? Nothing really changed in terms of the perception of Manny, IMO. He was robbed.

Doesn't matter. The mystique is gone. He lost. He was beaten by a guy who 99% of fans didn't even know before this fight. The 7 year win-streak that made him look downright unbeatable has now disappeared. There's an asterisk beside this loss, but it's still a loss.

You didn't see the fight, did you?

 

[chet]

how does Manny become "just another fighter" if 90% of the viewers think he got jobbed on the decision? Nothing really changed in terms of the perception of Manny, IMO. He was robbed.

Doesn't matter. The mystique is gone. He lost. He was beaten by a guy who 99% of fans didn't even know before this fight. The 7 year win-streak that made him look downright unbeatable has now disappeared. There's an asterisk beside this loss, but it's still a loss. He's no longer a larger-than-life icon.

OK Ultimate Warrior.

 

[tommyGunZ]

how does Manny become "just another fighter" if 90% of the viewers think he got jobbed on the decision? Nothing really changed in terms of the perception of Manny, IMO. He was robbed.

Doesn't matter. The mystique is gone. He lost. He was beaten by a guy who 99% of fans didn't even know before this fight. The 7 year win-streak that made him look downright unbeatable has now disappeared. There's an asterisk beside this loss, but it's still a loss. He's no longer a larger-than-life icon.

OK Ultimate Warrior.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

how does Manny become "just another fighter" if 90% of the viewers think he got jobbed on the decision? Nothing really changed in terms of the perception of Manny, IMO. He was robbed.

Doesn't matter. The mystique is gone. He lost. He was beaten by a guy who 99% of fans didn't even know before this fight. The 7 year win-streak that made him look downright unbeatable has now disappeared. There's an asterisk beside this loss, but it's still a loss. He's no longer a larger-than-life icon.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

how does Manny become "just another fighter" if 90% of the viewers think he got jobbed on the decision? Nothing really changed in terms of the perception of Manny, IMO. He was robbed.

Doesn't matter. The mystique is gone. He lost. He was beaten by a guy who 99% of fans didn't even know before this fight. The 7 year win-streak that made him look downright unbeatable has now disappeared. There's an asterisk beside this loss, but it's still a loss. He's no longer a larger-than-life icon.

agree hereeven if the decision tonight was horse ####

 

[Ilov80s]

how does Manny become "just another fighter" if 90% of the viewers think he got jobbed on the decision? Nothing really changed in terms of the perception of Manny, IMO. He was robbed.

Doesn't matter. The mystique is gone. He lost. He was beaten by a guy who 99% of fans didn't even know before this fight. The 7 year win-streak that made him look downright unbeatable has now disappeared. There's an asterisk beside this loss, but it's still a loss. He's no longer a larger-than-life icon.

His mystique wasn't being from being unbeaten. That is Floyd's thing.

 

[Ilov80s]

R.I.P.

I disagree. Boxing has been a sham for years. At least the last 2 decades and yet, for some reason, people will still watch/buy PPVs/etc. In six months there will be some other over-hyped joke of a match-up and 95% of boxing fans will forget how they got hosed tonight and get into it.As long as there are people with short memories boxing will still be a joke.

Until today, there were two fighters left that people really enjoyed following. The potential megafight between these two super-human fighters was enough to keep people interested. Tonight, one of them became just another fighter.The potential for that last big "who would win?!?" megafight died tonight, as it's now almost a given that Mayweather would be the big favorite.

RIP boxing...June 2012. The final nail in the coffin was tonight.

If you want to watch something scripted, go watch the WWE. If you want REAL fights, go watch the UFC. There's no longer any place for boxing and you'll see that reflected in the PPV buys from here on out. Good riddance.

Manny is just another fighter now? I don't think this hurts him one bit.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

R.I.P.

I disagree. Boxing has been a sham for years. At least the last 2 decades and yet, for some reason, people will still watch/buy PPVs/etc. In six months there will be some other over-hyped joke of a match-up and 95% of boxing fans will forget how they got hosed tonight and get into it.As long as there are people with short memories boxing will still be a joke.

Until today, there were two fighters left that people really enjoyed following. The potential megafight between these two super-human fighters was enough to keep people interested. Tonight, one of them became just another fighter.The potential for that last big "who would win?!?" megafight died tonight, as it's now almost a given that Mayweather would be the big favorite.

RIP boxing...June 2012. The final nail in the coffin was tonight.

If you want to watch something scripted, go watch the WWE. If you want REAL fights, go watch the UFC. There's no longer any place for boxing and you'll see that reflected in the PPV buys from here on out. Good riddance.

Manny is just another fighter now? I don't think this hurts him one bit.

Only in the sense that hurts (kills) the entirety of boxing significantly, of which he is a part of.

 

[Widbil83]

I had $20 to crap away on 5Dimes and put it on Bradley. Watched the fight with my old man and a few guys and we all laughed about how stupid of a bet it was the entire fight. Then we hear the decision. I've known boxing was fixed and a joke for 10 years now, but tonight takes it to a different level altogether.

 

[identikit]

Rematch!

 

[trader jake]

Do you guys know if Softballguy watched the fight last night?

 

[JuniorNB]

how does Manny become "just another fighter" if 90% of the viewers think he got jobbed on the decision? Nothing really changed in terms of the perception of Manny, IMO. He was robbed.

Doesn't matter. The mystique is gone. He lost. He was beaten by a guy who 99% of fans didn't even know before this fight. The 7 year win-streak that made him look downright unbeatable has now disappeared. There's an asterisk beside this loss, but it's still a loss. He's no longer a larger-than-life icon.

Wow, you're clueless. Anyone who knows anything about boxing still would love to see Mayweather and Pac Man fight. Seeing a guy "lose" a fight where he dominated 10 of the 12 rounds, doesn't take his mystique away.

 

[zed2283]

I guess you didn't watch Lennon Lewis vs. Evander Holyfield in 1999.

 

[32 Counter Pass]

This sport has had problems for years -- all the way back to Liston/Clay in my life time. I completely gave up following the sport durung Don King's run. The bottom line is that as long as there is no transparency in boxing it be suspect and easy pray to corruption. The boxing needs a score board to become more transparent. It will fix more problems than it creates.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

I guess you didn't watch Lennon Lewis vs. Evander Holyfield in 1999.

I dont think anybody did.

 

[Borat]

I don't like a lot of decisions in boxing, which makes me think the sport is rigged or in need of some serious reform.But I still like watching boxing a lot. I can't get into MMA at all.

Exactly how I feel. I understand why so many people love MMA, but it does absolutely nothing for me.

 

[Chaos Commish]

I don't like a lot of decisions in boxing, which makes me think the sport is rigged or in need of some serious reform.But I still like watching boxing a lot. I can't get into MMA at all.

Exactly how I feel. I understand why so many people love MMA, but it does absolutely nothing for me.

I felt like this for a long long time as MMA was on the rise. Boxing is the dark side. Come into the light. MMA is great stuff, always.

 

[Chaos Commish]

I guess you didn't watch Lennon Lewis vs. Evander Holyfield in 1999.

I dont think anybody did.

The only ufc event to outsell it is Lesnar Mir 2.However, Holyfield was awarded a bogus draw, not a bogus win.

 

[Chaos Commish]

The Hearns Leonard draw was awful. Tommy won 8 rounds big and even Ray admitted it. But it was still a draw.

 

[Ilov80s]

Paul Williams decision win over Lara in 2011 was an even worse than this. Williams got rocked with power shots all night and the announcing team spent the last 6 rounds questioning whether Williams should just hang it up. Even Roy Jones Jr. said Williams was shot and may never recover from the this beatdown. It was so bad the judges were suspended by the NJ Athletic committee.

 

[Steve Tasker]

Paul Williams decision win over Lara in 2011 was an even worse than this. Williams got rocked with power shots all night and the announcing team spent the last 6 rounds questioning whether Williams should just hang it up. Even Roy Jones Jr. said Williams was shot and may never recover from the this beatdown. It was so bad the judges were suspended by the NJ Athletic committee.

That was a horrible decision, and the judges deserved the suspensions.

 

[Warrior]

how does Manny become "just another fighter" if 90% of the viewers think he got jobbed on the decision? Nothing really changed in terms of the perception of Manny, IMO. He was robbed.

Doesn't matter. The mystique is gone. He lost. He was beaten by a guy who 99% of fans didn't even know before this fight. The 7 year win-streak that made him look downright unbeatable has now disappeared. There's an asterisk beside this loss, but it's still a loss. He's no longer a larger-than-life icon.

OK Ultimate Warrior.

Ok...bikini butt?

 

[jonessed]

I don't understand why people watch it. It's a giant scam. If you want to blame someone look in the mirror. Why are you watching a support that is and always has been fixed? Is it even a sport anymore? It's more WWF than UFC.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

I guess you didn't watch Lennon Lewis vs. Evander Holyfield in 1999.

I dont think anybody did.

The only ufc event to outsell it is Lesnar Mir 2.

Never heard of Lennon Lewis

 

[GregR]

how does Manny become "just another fighter" if 90% of the viewers think he got jobbed on the decision? Nothing really changed in terms of the perception of Manny, IMO. He was robbed.

A quarterback is clutch if his kicker makes a playoff game winning FG and isn't clutch if the kicker misses it. No surprise to see the same thing applied to boxing.

 

[flapgreen]

how does Manny become "just another fighter" if 90% of the viewers think he got jobbed on the decision? Nothing really changed in terms of the perception of Manny, IMO. He was robbed.

Doesn't matter. The mystique is gone. He lost. He was beaten by a guy who 99% of fans didn't even know before this fight. The 7 year win-streak that made him look downright unbeatable has now disappeared. There's an asterisk beside this loss, but it's still a loss. He's no longer a larger-than-life icon.

You may be the dumbest sports fan ever. Stick to the Gorilla press. You're better at it.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

I don't understand why people watch it. It's a giant scam. If you want to blame someone look in the mirror. Why are you watching a support that is and always has been fixed? Is it even a sport anymore? It's more WWF than UFC.

i still enjoy the combatants , theres nothing like watching to warriors go toe to toe in a violent exchange of determination. #### the judges and promoters. Fights like the Micky Ward vs Arturo Gatti trilogy keep me loving the sport.

 

[modogg]

R.I.P.

I disagree. Boxing has been a sham for years. At least the last 2 decades and yet, for some reason, people will still watch/buy PPVs/etc. In six months there will be some other over-hyped joke of a match-up and 95% of boxing fans will forget how they got hosed tonight and get into it.As long as there are people with short memories boxing will still be a joke.

Until today, there were two fighters left that people really enjoyed following. The potential megafight between these two super-human fighters was enough to keep people interested. Tonight, one of them became just another fighter.The potential for that last big "who would win?!?" megafight died tonight, as it's now almost a given that Mayweather would be the big favorite.

RIP boxing...June 2012. The final nail in the coffin was tonight.

If you want to watch something scripted, go watch the WWE. If you want REAL fights, go watch the UFC. There's no longer any place for boxing and you'll see that reflected in the PPV buys from here on out. Good riddance.

Manny is just another fighter now? I don't think this hurts him one bit.

Only in the sense that hurts (kills) the entirety of boxing significantly, of which he is a part of.

Sets the stage for a ton of hype for the rematch in November, and by then most will forget about this debacle. Boxing really has become a joke, but people keep paying for it, so why stop? I haven't heard/read this much talk about boxing in a long time

 

[trader jake]

Boxing really has become a joke, but people keep paying for it, so why stop? I haven't heard/read this much talk about boxing in a long time

Is that the ol' "the BCS is good for college football" defense?

 

[slayer666]

The main factor that showed the fix was in was the exact date of the rematch (November 10) was announced last night. In the past, I recall controversial decisions having rematches discussed immediately following the bout, but I've never heard an EXACT date mentioned.

 

[menobrown]

I don't like a lot of decisions in boxing, which makes me think the sport is rigged or in need of some serious reform.But I still like watching boxing a lot. I can't get into MMA at all.

Exactly how I feel. I understand why so many people love MMA, but it does absolutely nothing for me.

I'm in this camp as well.Boxing has a whole has been in the toilet for a long long time now. But when a good fight happens it's one of the greatest things to witness in all of sport. That's why I keep watching despite the fact so much of it seems rigged and it's so difficult getting the best to fight the best. I know how special the really good fights are and I keep watching because I don't want to miss something special when it happens.

 

[knuckleballah22]

judges were drunk