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By the way, after researching, the PS4 if you add an external drive you cannot put games on it apparently, unlike the Xbox. However, it's easy to replace the original hard drive in the PS4 if it comes to it, and Sony has instructions out for doing it.
That's pretty major, and a large advantage to XB1 imho. Most major games are in the 30-50gb range, and this generation has you install them fully. That's 10-12 games. So easy external storage is a big deal.

I bought a 3TB HDD for about $80, plugged it into my xbox, and that was that. If you can't do this on the PS4, that alone would keep me away from that machine if I was only considering one.

 
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Damn you guys. I am still waffling over this. PS4 has a couple more games I want to play, but it seems like the better deals coming out are for the XBox One.

 
By the way, after researching, the PS4 if you add an external drive you cannot put games on it apparently, unlike the Xbox. However, it's easy to replace the original hard drive in the PS4 if it comes to it, and Sony has instructions out for doing it.
That's pretty major, and a large advantage to XB1 imho. Most major games are in the 30-50gb range, and this generation has you install them fully. That's 10-12 games. So easy external storage is a big deal.

I bought a 3TB HDD for about $80, plugged it into my xbox, and that was that. If you can't do this on the PS4, that alone would keep me away from that machine if I was only considering one.
You can put in a new internal hard drive still. From what I read I got the impression people think Sony will eventually support games on the external drives but it isn't there yet, just music, etc.

I was also debating whether to go with digital downloads or physical disks. I had sort of been planning to go with digital downloads, but I think I'm going to stick with disks. I have a few friends we trade games sometimes. With the 360 I would just install the game to the hard drive from the game disk, assuming you can still do that?

 
Damn you guys. I am still waffling over this. PS4 has a couple more games I want to play, but it seems like the better deals coming out are for the XBox One.
Yes, I went ahead and got the Xbox One deal, but I'm going to wait and see if anything better shows up for PS4. I'd like the Star Wars Battlefront one, in part because 2 of the classic Star Wars games it has are old games I still go back and replay sometimes. Bounty Hunter and Jedi Starfighter.

 
My sister in law has a question

Can xbox one and 360 guys play each other on backward convertible games online

 
By the way, after researching, the PS4 if you add an external drive you cannot put games on it apparently, unlike the Xbox. However, it's easy to replace the original hard drive in the PS4 if it comes to it, and Sony has instructions out for doing it.
That's pretty major, and a large advantage to XB1 imho. Most major games are in the 30-50gb range, and this generation has you install them fully. That's 10-12 games. So easy external storage is a big deal.

I bought a 3TB HDD for about $80, plugged it into my xbox, and that was that. If you can't do this on the PS4, that alone would keep me away from that machine if I was only considering one.
You can't upgrade the xbone internal hard drive so you HAVE to use and external. It is nice to be able to plug in extra storage but you have and extra component sitting on your console and xbox HD will forever be small.

PS4 is easy to swap out HD for whatever size you want. Also if you want you can use an external with a PS4 but only for music and video content.

 
By the way, after researching, the PS4 if you add an external drive you cannot put games on it apparently, unlike the Xbox. However, it's easy to replace the original hard drive in the PS4 if it comes to it, and Sony has instructions out for doing it.
That's pretty major, and a large advantage to XB1 imho. Most major games are in the 30-50gb range, and this generation has you install them fully. That's 10-12 games. So easy external storage is a big deal.

I bought a 3TB HDD for about $80, plugged it into my xbox, and that was that. If you can't do this on the PS4, that alone would keep me away from that machine if I was only considering one.
You can't upgrade the xbone internal hard drive so you HAVE to use and external. It is nice to be able to plug in extra storage but you have and extra component sitting on your console and xbox HD will forever be small.

PS4 is easy to swap out HD for whatever size you want. Also if you want you can use an external with a PS4 but only for music and video content.
Never give up the fight, LS!!!

 
PS4 is easy to swap out HD for whatever size you want. Also if you want you can use an external with a PS4 but only for music and video content.
I didn't think you could use a Usb hard drive with the PS4? One reason I've kept the PS3 going so well is the use of my usb drive to watch videos with. Am I incorrect?

 
Damn you guys. I am still waffling over this. PS4 has a couple more games I want to play, but it seems like the better deals coming out are for the XBox One.
Well the deals are going to be better for Xbox. They are laying in a pool of their own blood at this point. This Christmas season is their opportunity to capture some of their lost player base. MS will pull out all the stops to sell as many units as they can. They will be slashing prices because for many people the xbox will be their 2nd console and price is a factor in buying a unneeded console.

Sony will not be greatly slashing prices they have already sold to most of their clientele, and a price drop is not going to move the demand meter much so Sony would just be losing revenue for no reason.

 
Did i read somewhere that swapping hard drives in ps4 negates the warranty. Or am I making that up

 
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PS4 is easy to swap out HD for whatever size you want. Also if you want you can use an external with a PS4 but only for music and video content.
I didn't think you could use a Usb hard drive with the PS4? One reason I've kept the PS3 going so well is the use of my usb drive to watch videos with. Am I incorrect?
The PS4 uses a external for backup on the HD. So for example when you upgrade the internal HD you save your data to a external drive and put it back on your new 2 TB internal or whatever. The PS4 is not formatted to use and external for game use but you can store movies and music on an attached external if you use your PS4 as a media server.

 
PS4 is easy to swap out HD for whatever size you want. Also if you want you can use an external with a PS4 but only for music and video content.
I didn't think you could use a Usb hard drive with the PS4? One reason I've kept the PS3 going so well is the use of my usb drive to watch videos with. Am I incorrect?
The PS4 uses a external for backup on the HD. So for example when you upgrade the internal HD you save your data to a external drive and put it back on your new 2 TB internal or whatever. The PS4 is not formatted to use and external for game use but you can store movies and music on an attached external if you use your PS4 as a media server.
I'm dumb this morning. Can I take my existing 2TB external drive, plug it in via USB, and watch shows through the PS4? If so, then the PS4 might be on my menu this season.
 
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By the way, after researching, the PS4 if you add an external drive you cannot put games on it apparently, unlike the Xbox. However, it's easy to replace the original hard drive in the PS4 if it comes to it, and Sony has instructions out for doing it.
That's pretty major, and a large advantage to XB1 imho. Most major games are in the 30-50gb range, and this generation has you install them fully. That's 10-12 games. So easy external storage is a big deal.

I bought a 3TB HDD for about $80, plugged it into my xbox, and that was that. If you can't do this on the PS4, that alone would keep me away from that machine if I was only considering one.
You can't upgrade the xbone internal hard drive so you HAVE to use and external. It is nice to be able to plug in extra storage but you have and extra component sitting on your console and xbox HD will forever be small.

PS4 is easy to swap out HD for whatever size you want. Also if you want you can use an external with a PS4 but only for music and video content.
Never give up the fight, LS!!!
Lol fights over PS4 won. PS4 is going to hit 30 million units this holiday and we will never know if they get to 15 million xbox ones because MS stop reporting sales. :pickle:

I am big enough man to admit that the xbox has upgraded enough,overcome problems and dropped price that it is now a good value and comparable to PS4. The xbox fandom was so bad last year that you guys couldn't admit that buying an xbox with the kinect at that price with limited features was even a slightly bad decision much less the dumpster fire that it was.

 
Damn you guys. I am still waffling over this. PS4 has a couple more games I want to play, but it seems like the better deals coming out are for the XBox One.
Well the deals are going to be better for Xbox. They are laying in a pool of their own blood at this point. This Christmas season is their opportunity to capture some of their lost player base. MS will pull out all the stops to sell as many units as they can. They will be slashing prices because for many people the xbox will be their 2nd console and price is a factor in buying a unneeded console.

Sony will not be greatly slashing prices they have already sold to most of their clientele, and a price drop is not going to move the demand meter much so Sony would just be losing revenue for no reason.
It makes sense. I honestly didn't know that PS4 had outsold them by so much already. I guess I should just be happy if I get a good bundle in the $350 range. Probably won't find the the PS4 equivalent of that Xbox One Dell deal.

 
PS4 is easy to swap out HD for whatever size you want. Also if you want you can use an external with a PS4 but only for music and video content.
I didn't think you could use a Usb hard drive with the PS4? One reason I've kept the PS3 going so well is the use of my usb drive to watch videos with. Am I incorrect?
The PS4 uses a external for backup on the HD. So for example when you upgrade the internal HD you save your data to a external drive and put it back on your new 2 TB internal or whatever. The PS4 is not formatted to use and external for game use but you can store movies and music on an attached external if you use your PS4 as a media server.
I'm dumb this morning. Can I take my existing 2TB external drive, plug it in via USB, and watch shows through the PS4? If so, then the PS4 might be on my menu this season.
Yes you can.

PS4 has a media server app you download it and there you go. There are a ton of instructions on the web but here is one of them.

http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2015/06/guide_how_to_view_photos_play_music_and_watch_videos_with_ps4_media_player

 
Unless you work for Sony or Microsoft nobody 'wins' or 'loses'. :lmao:
Oh I know, but it is fun. This is a site where we pretend we are GM's of our pretend teams and when players on NFL teams win and lose we pretend we win or lose.

Trash talking is fun.

 
You can combine the two TARGET deals to essentially get.... 500GB XBOXONE - 50.00 Target Giftcard and three games for 400.00 + tax. The downside is that none of the three games can be Fallout 4 or any other pre-order game.

 
By the way, after researching, the PS4 if you add an external drive you cannot put games on it apparently, unlike the Xbox. However, it's easy to replace the original hard drive in the PS4 if it comes to it, and Sony has instructions out for doing it.
That's pretty major, and a large advantage to XB1 imho. Most major games are in the 30-50gb range, and this generation has you install them fully. That's 10-12 games. So easy external storage is a big deal.

I bought a 3TB HDD for about $80, plugged it into my xbox, and that was that. If you can't do this on the PS4, that alone would keep me away from that machine if I was only considering one.
You can't upgrade the xbone internal hard drive so you HAVE to use and external. It is nice to be able to plug in extra storage but you have and extra component sitting on your console and xbox HD will forever be small.

PS4 is easy to swap out HD for whatever size you want. Also if you want you can use an external with a PS4 but only for music and video content.
I own both, so I have no preconceived bias. I do like/use the xb1 more, but again, I do own both, and see merits of both (same as last gen).

On this issue, it's not remotely close. Plugging in a usb is something everyone can/will do. Swapping out the internal hdd? You just lost half your audience, regardless of how simple it is.

I really had no idea the PS4 couldn't take an external drive for games. Huge, huge fail, and you know it (trash talking aside :) )

 
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PS4 is easy to swap out HD for whatever size you want. Also if you want you can use an external with a PS4 but only for music and video content.
I didn't think you could use a Usb hard drive with the PS4? One reason I've kept the PS3 going so well is the use of my usb drive to watch videos with. Am I incorrect?
The PS4 uses a external for backup on the HD. So for example when you upgrade the internal HD you save your data to a external drive and put it back on your new 2 TB internal or whatever. The PS4 is not formatted to use and external for game use but you can store movies and music on an attached external if you use your PS4 as a media server.
I'm dumb this morning. Can I take my existing 2TB external drive, plug it in via USB, and watch shows through the PS4? If so, then the PS4 might be on my menu this season.
Yes you can.

PS4 has a media server app you download it and there you go. There are a ton of instructions on the web but here is one of them.

http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2015/06/guide_how_to_view_photos_play_music_and_watch_videos_with_ps4_media_player
The PS3 could already play videos that were stored on a computer on the same network.. So I wouldn't think you'd even need to put them on a drive for the PS4, just keep them on your existing computer.

The one gotcha I had with the PS3 for that was that its media player doesn't support every type of video format, with Flash being the big one it didn't support. Looks like PS4 has a similar situation with file types, here's a list of what that article says it supports:

What file types and codecs are supported by the PS4 Media Player app?Below you'll find the list of file types and codecs supported by the PS4 Media Player app at the time of publication. Be aware that, while every effort has been made to ensure the accuracy of this piece, compatibility could change depending on future patches or software updates.

Video

  • MKVVisual: H.264/MPEG-4 AVC High Profile Level4.2
  • Audio: MP3, AAC LC, AC-3 (Dolby Digital)
[*]AVI
  • Visual: MPEG4 ASP, H.264/MPEG-4 AVC High Profile Level4.2
  • Audio: MP3, AAC LC, AC-3 (Dolby Digital)
[*]MP4
  • Visual: H.264/MPEG-4 AVC High Profile Level4.2
  • Audio: AAC LC, AC-3 (Dolby Digital)
[*]MPEG-2 TS
  • Visual: H.264/MPEG-4 AVC High Profile Level4.2, MPEG2 Visual
  • Audio: MP2 (MPEG2 Audio Layer 2), AAC LC, AC-3(Dolby Digital)
  • AVCHD: (.m2ts, .mts)
Photo

  • JPEG (based on DCF 2.0/Exif 2.21)
  • BMP
  • PNG
Music

  • MP3
  • AAC (M4A)
 
My sister in law has a question

Can xbox one and 360 guys play each other on backward convertible games online
Yes, all backward compatible 360 games played on Xbox one you play multiplayer with both 360 and One players.
Are there (m)any games that allow gaming between not just versions of Xbox, but between users on any of Xbox/PS/PC?

 
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You can combine the two TARGET deals to essentially get.... 500GB XBOXONE - 50.00 Target Giftcard and three games for 400.00 + tax. The downside is that none of the three games can be Fallout 4 or any other pre-order game.
could just turn around and use the GC on Fallout though.

 
By the way, after researching, the PS4 if you add an external drive you cannot put games on it apparently, unlike the Xbox. However, it's easy to replace the original hard drive in the PS4 if it comes to it, and Sony has instructions out for doing it.
That's pretty major, and a large advantage to XB1 imho. Most major games are in the 30-50gb range, and this generation has you install them fully. That's 10-12 games. So easy external storage is a big deal.

I bought a 3TB HDD for about $80, plugged it into my xbox, and that was that. If you can't do this on the PS4, that alone would keep me away from that machine if I was only considering one.
You can't upgrade the xbone internal hard drive so you HAVE to use and external. It is nice to be able to plug in extra storage but you have and extra component sitting on your console and xbox HD will forever be small.

PS4 is easy to swap out HD for whatever size you want. Also if you want you can use an external with a PS4 but only for music and video content.
I own both, so I have no preconceived bias. I do like/use the xb1 more, but again, I do own both, and see merits of both (same as last gen).

On this issue, it's not remotely close. Plugging in a usb is something everyone can/will do. Swapping out the internal hdd? You just lost half your audience, regardless of how simple it is.

I really had no idea the PS4 couldn't take an external drive for games. Huge, huge fail, and you know it (trash talking aside :) )
I agree that most people wouldn't do that. But I also think that most people won't even need any additional storage at all. The only real reason to need that additional space is if you have some phobia about deleting anything.

You can have a couple dozen games saved on your HDD and whenever you are done with something just delete it. You can re download it at any time if you want to play it again. With the speed what the are and the instant play with PS4 the wait is minimal. And that is only if you have some burning desire to play your 30th favorite game immediately.

Issue? of course, major issue no.

 
It looks like Target is having a buy 2, get the 3rd free on a lot of the PS4 titles.
It's actually for any video game (WiiU, XB1, PS4). You can even mix and match between consoles. Same as last year...I think I grabbed a WiiU game and two XB1 games. I really wish this extended to gift cards or download codes.

 
Greg Russell said:
Jobber said:
My sister in law has a question

Can xbox one and 360 guys play each other on backward convertible games online
Yes, all backward compatible 360 games played on Xbox one you play multiplayer with both 360 and One players.
Are there (m)any games that allow gaming between not just versions of Xbox, but between users on any of Xbox/PS/PC?
There are a couple that allow cross play from Xbox or PS to PC, but none that allow cross play between Xbox and PS.

 
:loco: :confused: :loco:

was planning to get one in the near future but dont know what to get. Had XBox 360 in the past and enjoyed it. Play mostly sports games, FIFA, Madden, MLB... the wife did enjoy Guitar Hero... May have to consider which has more kid friendly games. So I'm stuck.

 
I'm a little worried 500 GB is going to feel kind of small for the hard drive after awhile. If games are going to be like FO4 and take up 40 GB, and especially if going with digital downloads instead of having a physical disk, I could see that filling up fast.

Most of the bundles with the games that interest me are 500 GB drives. :(
FWIW I bought an external 1TB for cheap and it works great, super easy.

edit - looks like this was covered pretty good

 
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Going through my first update right now. For those who got the new egg deal, they are physical discs, not download codes with the exception of Gears.

Im going to try and flip Assasins creed or Final Fantasy into a controller. Ill stop at gamestop later.

The best part is my son who will be 6 in a week was more excited than I was. I forsee lots of gaming together in our future. He wants NHL 16 so ill get that for him while im out. It's silly the things that make us happy

 
B Maverick said:
:loco: :confused: :loco:

was planning to get one in the near future but dont know what to get. Had XBox 360 in the past and enjoyed it. Play mostly sports games, FIFA, Madden, MLB... the wife did enjoy Guitar Hero... May have to consider which has more kid friendly games. So I'm stuck.
If you still have those 360 games, the first small list of backward compatible games supported by Xbox One is here: http://majornelson.com/2015/11/09/the-list-of-xbox-one-backward-compatibility-games-is-now-available/?linkId=18611744
 
AcerFC said:
Going through my first update right now. For those who got the new egg deal, they are physical discs, not download codes with the exception of Gears.

Im going to try and flip Assasins creed or Final Fantasy into a controller. Ill stop at gamestop later.

The best part is my son who will be 6 in a week was more excited than I was. I forsee lots of gaming together in our future. He wants NHL 16 so ill get that for him while im out. It's silly the things that make us happy
Have fun. :thumbup: Enjoy the early years. My boys are 12 and 14. Before you know it they'll be kicking your butt and you'll be wondering where the years went.

 
AcerFC said:
Going through my first update right now. For those who got the new egg deal, they are physical discs, not download codes with the exception of Gears.

Im going to try and flip Assasins creed or Final Fantasy into a controller. Ill stop at gamestop later.

The best part is my son who will be 6 in a week was more excited than I was. I forsee lots of gaming together in our future. He wants NHL 16 so ill get that for him while im out. It's silly the things that make us happy
Have fun. :thumbup: Enjoy the early years. My boys are 12 and 14. Before you know it they'll be kicking your butt and you'll be wondering where the years went.
they wanted to give me $8 for the two games. Oh well, I tried.
 
AcerFC said:
Going through my first update right now. For those who got the new egg deal, they are physical discs, not download codes with the exception of Gears.

Im going to try and flip Assasins creed or Final Fantasy into a controller. Ill stop at gamestop later.

The best part is my son who will be 6 in a week was more excited than I was. I forsee lots of gaming together in our future. He wants NHL 16 so ill get that for him while im out. It's silly the things that make us happy
Have fun. :thumbup: Enjoy the early years. My boys are 12 and 14. Before you know it they'll be kicking your butt and you'll be wondering where the years went.
they wanted to give me $8 for the two games. Oh well, I tried.
Unless they are new-ish games (like a month from release), the trade-in market is fairly weak.

You could get more on ebay, but that can be a hassle.

 
It took me an hour to figure out that the turtle beach headphones need a $25 adapter before I can use them

:bangshead:

Also, some loser already had Acer and Acer FC as their tags. Losers

 
AcerFC said:
Going through my first update right now. For those who got the new egg deal, they are physical discs, not download codes with the exception of Gears.

Im going to try and flip Assasins creed or Final Fantasy into a controller. Ill stop at gamestop later.

The best part is my son who will be 6 in a week was more excited than I was. I forsee lots of gaming together in our future. He wants NHL 16 so ill get that for him while im out. It's silly the things that make us happy
Have fun. :thumbup: Enjoy the early years. My boys are 12 and 14. Before you know it they'll be kicking your butt and you'll be wondering where the years went.
they wanted to give me $8 for the two games. Oh well, I tried.
Yikes.

 
Looks like gamestop has a Ps4 bundle with Fallout 4 for $349. You get the 500Gb PS4 with Uncharted Collection and get Fallout 4 as well. I looks like it is online only, but I am pretty sure that is a competitor that Target will price match so I might head there tomorrow. Package that with their buy 2 get one free, and I might be getting a PS4 with 5 games for about $460 Seems like a good deal.

 
It took me an hour to figure out that the turtle beach headphones need a $25 adapter before I can use them

:bangshead:

Also, some loser already had Acer and Acer FC as their tags. Losers
OK, So I need this adapter as well. Thanks, nothing worse than opening this on Christmas and it not working.

 
AcerFC said:
Going through my first update right now. For those who got the new egg deal, they are physical discs, not download codes with the exception of Gears.

Im going to try and flip Assasins creed or Final Fantasy into a controller. Ill stop at gamestop later.

The best part is my son who will be 6 in a week was more excited than I was. I forsee lots of gaming together in our future. He wants NHL 16 so ill get that for him while im out. It's silly the things that make us happy
Have fun. :thumbup: Enjoy the early years. My boys are 12 and 14. Before you know it they'll be kicking your butt and you'll be wondering where the years went.
they wanted to give me $8 for the two games. Oh well, I tried.
It took me an hour to figure out that the turtle beach headphones need a $25 adapter before I can use them

:bangshead:

Also, some loser already had Acer and Acer FC as their tags. Losers
So you're telling me this deal wasn't as good as it originally sounded?

 
It took me an hour to figure out that the turtle beach headphones need a $25 adapter before I can use them

:bangshead:

Also, some loser already had Acer and Acer FC as their tags. Losers
OK, So I need this adapter as well. Thanks, nothing worse than opening this on Christmas and it not working.
Is this what I need?

http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-One-Stereo-Headset-Adapter/dp/B00IAVDOS6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1447166006&sr=8-1&keywords=turtle+beach+adapter+for+xbox+one

Man I miss my SNES days.

 

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