Yes McNabb the Skins are better then the Eagles! (1 Viewer)

[dgreen]

The Redskins DID dominate the Eagles. 203 yards rushing, totally shutting down the Eagles ground game and when you totally kill the last SEVEN MINUTES of the 4th quarter, that's domination. The score doesn't always tell the whole story.

I think the final score tells more of the story than one drive or just looking at rushing yards.My main point is: If that was a dominating performance, then they are in trouble. To dominate someone and only win by 6 is not a good thing.

 

[GoBirds]

It's 1st week of October......not January.

Relax.

 

[fatness]

Right now to me the Skins are the best team in NFC.

I don't agree, and I've been a Redskin fan since the Paleozoic era. The Giants beat the Redskins. Nobody has beaten the Giants. They're the best until proven otherwise. The NFC East rematch games, all in Washington, should tell a lot.

 

[Hang 10]

The Redskins DID dominate the Eagles. 203 yards rushing, totally shutting down the Eagles ground game and when you totally kill the last SEVEN MINUTES of the 4th quarter, that's domination. The score doesn't always tell the whole story.

I think the final score tells more of the story than one drive or just looking at rushing yards.My main point is: If that was a dominating performance, then they are in trouble. To dominate someone and only win by 6 is not a good thing.

You don't think the Skins could have scored again? This isn't the BCS. Killing 7 minutes to ice the game is much more valuable then trying to run up the score.From Mosely's blog on ESPN:

Washington withstood a furious start by the Eagles, and then spent the final three quarters dominating every aspect of the game. Eagles coach Andy Reid was left mumbling something about putting his team in the right position, which for now is dead last in the NFC East.

Looks like I'm not the only one that noticed.

Also, here's Mosley again refering to the OP:

What game was McNabb watching? In training camp, I listened to McNabb review last season's 8-8 record and talk about the NFC East games the Eagles should've won. He boldly stated that the Eagles were the best team in the NFC. But at some point, even McNabb's bravado can't cover up the fact that the Eagles are a mediocre team right now. And after observing Sunday's loss, maybe I'm being generous.

McNabb's comments after the game rang hollow to me, and I'm pretty sure they'll have the same effect on Eagles fans.

"I was embarrassed these last two weeks," he said. "I mean [to lose] to two teams we shouldn't have lost to. There is no way that you can look at this game and say that, and not taking anything away from them, but there is no way that this team is better than us."

With that statement, the only person embarrassing himself is McNabb. The Eagles lost to a superior football team Sunday. This wasn't some nip-and-tuck game where the last team with the ball won. This was the Redskins scoring 23 unanswered points and running down the Eagles' throats. This team feeds off McNabb, but that doesn't give him license to make delusional statements.

Wow, that was a serious beatdown, Mosley lays down on Mcnabb.

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nfceast/0-4-31/...r-the-road.html

 

[dgreen]

Right now to me the Skins are the best team in NFC.

I don't agree, and I've been a Redskin fan since the Paleozoic era. The Giants beat the Redskins. Nobody has beaten the Giants. They're the best until proven otherwise. The NFC East rematch games, all in Washington, should tell a lot.

I agree to an extent. But, the Giants' opponents are a combined 5-13. The Redskins make up 4-1 of that 5-13, meaning their other opponents are a combined 1-12. And I think one could argue that the Redskins offense they faced in week 1 is light years from the Redskins offense today. To the Giants credit, they have won the games on their schedule to date. They've even completely destroyed 2 of those teams. They have CLE and SF before going on a tough stretch the rest of the season.

 

[T Bell]

The Redskins DID dominate the Eagles. 203 yards rushing, totally shutting down the Eagles ground game and when you totally kill the last SEVEN MINUTES of the 4th quarter, that's domination. The score doesn't always tell the whole story.

I think the final score tells more of the story than one drive or just looking at rushing yards.My main point is: If that was a dominating performance, then they are in trouble. To dominate someone and only win by 6 is not a good thing.

Let's remember a couple of things:The Eagles ran a bunch of plays for the first time on the scripted opening drive, in which they held the ball for 7 minutes and scored a TD. It was an impressive drive. Following that, howerver, the Eagles managed only a FG on offense the rest of the game, and held the ball for only 18 more minutes out of a possible 53 minutes. They converted only 2 more third downs after that point. They got no first downs during the entire 2nd and 3rd quarters. On offense the Redskins converted 11 of 19 3rd downs, and averaged over five yards per rush. They held the ball for 35 minutes in total. The Redskins absorbed the best the Eagles had to offer in route to a 14-0 deficit on the road, buckled down and controlled every facet of the game after that. That's a solid, dominating win any way you look at that, and the scoring more than the score gives a better idea of the course of the game.

 

[fatness]

Right now to me the Skins are the best team in NFC.

I don't agree, and I've been a Redskin fan since the Paleozoic era. The Giants beat the Redskins. Nobody has beaten the Giants. They're the best until proven otherwise. The NFC East rematch games, all in Washington, should tell a lot.

I agree to an extent. But, the Giants' opponents are a combined 5-13. The Redskins make up 4-1 of that 5-13, meaning their other opponents are a combined 1-12. And I think one could argue that the Redskins offense they faced in week 1 is light years from the Redskins offense today. To the Giants credit, they have won the games on their schedule to date. They've even completely destroyed 2 of those teams. They have CLE and SF before going on a tough stretch the rest of the season.

The Redskins are only 4 games away from the loss to the Giants. No matter how good those 4 games were (and all the scores were relatively close), 4 weeks isn't light years. It's a modest streak of playing very well. It's grounds for optimism. It's a reason to think the Redskins may beat the Giants and may win rematches with the Eagles and Cowboys. But it's no proof they're better. To be better than someone you have to beat them. Ric Flair is right.

 

[TobiasFunke]

The Redskins DID dominate the Eagles. 203 yards rushing, totally shutting down the Eagles ground game and when you totally kill the last SEVEN MINUTES of the 4th quarter, that's domination. The score doesn't always tell the whole story.

I think the final score tells more of the story than one drive or just looking at rushing yards.My main point is: If that was a dominating performance, then they are in trouble. To dominate someone and only win by 6 is not a good thing.

As I described earlier, and as others have said, this was a six-point game on the scoreboard, but it wasn't played like a six-point game. In the NFL there's gonna be some things you can't control- bad calls, bad bounces, etc. Over 16 games, things balance out somewhat, but they can greatly influence the score of a single game. Yesterday the Redskins overcame a worst-case scenario, in the form of an inexplicable blown call that handed the Eagles 7 points. And of course they were in field goal range when they ran the clock down, too.As a fellow Redskins fan, I understand your hesitation to go overboard, but it's fair to call this what it was- 3 1/2 quarters of domination. I'm not predicting the future at all, just giving an accurate portrayal of what happened yesterday. This performance was, in my opinion, more impressive than last week in Dallas.

 

[Mustang Man]

The Redskins DID dominate the Eagles. 203 yards rushing, totally shutting down the Eagles ground game and when you totally kill the last SEVEN MINUTES of the 4th quarter, that's domination. The score doesn't always tell the whole story.

I think the final score tells more of the story than one drive or just looking at rushing yards.My main point is: If that was a dominating performance, then they are in trouble. To dominate someone and only win by 6 is not a good thing.

As I described earlier, and as others have said, this was a six-point game on the scoreboard, but it wasn't played like a six-point game. In the NFL there's gonna be some things you can't control- bad calls, bad bounces, etc. Over 16 games, things balance out somewhat, but they can greatly influence the score of a single game. Yesterday the Redskins overcame a worst-case scenario, in the form of an inexplicable blown call that handed the Eagles 7 points. And of course they were in field goal range when they ran the clock down, too.As a fellow Redskins fan, I understand your hesitation to go overboard, but it's fair to call this what it was- 3 1/2 quarters of domination. I'm not predicting the future at all, just giving an accurate portrayal of what happened yesterday. This performance was, in my opinion, more impressive than last week in Dallas.

I believe it was more impressive also this week for the very reason that the Eagles were lets say on notice because they did just beat the Cowboys in Dallas. Come on how can you say the Skins are not the best at this point. The G-Men only have beaten the Skins and that was the home opener where EMOTION played the biggest part of that victory. After the fast start by the Giants the Skins for the final 3 quarters beat the Giants 7-6 I believe. AGAIN not a Skins fan just calling it like I see it. So other then the Skins who have the Giants beaten. I think the Giants are the better team but at this point the Skins are much more impressive and have to be seen as the better team to this point. All I know is I love that Dallas is not the front runner cause it is much easier to be in the shadows then be seen as the favorite as they were all through last season.

 

[Colt Of Personality]

The Redskins DID dominate the Eagles. 203 yards rushing, totally shutting down the Eagles ground game and when you totally kill the last SEVEN MINUTES of the 4th quarter, that's domination. The score doesn't always tell the whole story.

It's all semantics. I classify domination as what Carolina did to the Chiefs, the Bears to the Lions, the Giants to Seattle.I'm not taking ANYTHING away from the Redskins, but the Eagles were not dominated. The Eagles failed to adjust. Reid doesn't adjust. He rams a system down their throat and he just doesn't enough pieces to run the system. 2 weeks in a row... you need to score on the goaline. Stop taking Klecko and Tony Stewart and making them FB's. Get a TE that can block (LJ Smith is a colossal waste) And though injuries are part of the game, losing Shawn Andrews and Westbrook (cracked ribs) aren't helping matters.

 

[gonzobill5]

In the last two weeks both of the games were decided by the Eagles not able to score inside the 5yard line.... play calling has been horrible.

I agree about the playcalling, but that's not all that decided the game with the Redskins. Washington had 3 long drives that ended in FG's. Had any or all of those drives ended in TD's the game would not have been close.

They ended in 41, 48, and 50 yard field goals. Don't give me that they could have ended in TDs - they didn't even reach the red zone. No one wants to hear it but McNabb is actually right - this Eagles team consistently plays down to the competition and they have for years. There is no leadership on offense. A sideline reporter actually said something worthwhile, albeit accidentally, when big head Pam Oliver reported that the Eagles offense prefers to "sit on opposite sides of the bench" rather than give pep talks like the defense does.

 

[fatness]

They ended in 41, 48, and 50 yard field goals. Don't give me that they could have ended in TDs - they didn't even reach the red zone.

FG drives8 plays, 30 yards, 3:23

15 plays, 77 yards, 8:19

9 plays, 50 yards, 0:53 (end of the half)

TD drives

7 plays, 75 yards, 3:27

6 plays, 57 yards, 1:53

 

[T Bell]

In the last two weeks both of the games were decided by the Eagles not able to score inside the 5yard line.... play calling has been horrible.

I agree about the playcalling, but that's not all that decided the game with the Redskins. Washington had 3 long drives that ended in FG's. Had any or all of those drives ended in TD's the game would not have been close.

They ended in 41, 48, and 50 yard field goals. Don't give me that they could have ended in TDs - they didn't even reach the red zone. No one wants to hear it but McNabb is actually right - this Eagles team consistently plays down to the competition and they have for years. There is no leadership on offense. A sideline reporter actually said something worthwhile, albeit accidentally, when big head Pam Oliver reported that the Eagles offense prefers to "sit on opposite sides of the bench" rather than give pep talks like the defense does.

Sorry, but this is a team sport. The Redskins are a better team. If it soothes your ruffled feathers to say to yourself that you like the Eagles players better, that's of course your prerogative, but don't expect other to buy into those sorts of excuses.

 

[dirtywaters20]

In the last two weeks both of the games were decided by the Eagles not able to score inside the 5yard line.... play calling has been horrible.

I agree about the playcalling, but that's not all that decided the game with the Redskins. Washington had 3 long drives that ended in FG's. Had any or all of those drives ended in TD's the game would not have been close.

They ended in 41, 48, and 50 yard field goals. Don't give me that they could have ended in TDs - they didn't even reach the red zone. No one wants to hear it but McNabb is actually right - this Eagles team consistently plays down to the competition and they have for years. There is no leadership on offense. A sideline reporter actually said something worthwhile, albeit accidentally, when big head Pam Oliver reported that the Eagles offense prefers to "sit on opposite sides of the bench" rather than give pep talks like the defense does.

How is that the mark of a "better" team? Pam Oliver's report isn't really surprising to most Eagles' fans. McNabb isn't a leader, he's a good player (no longer elite), who is closer to a class clown, then a leader. This has always been the case no matter how many times he declares himself to be.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

From Cooley's Blog

When I played football the team that won the game was usually the better team. When Donovon McNabb plays, it doesn't matter who scores more, has better stats, and leaves the field victorious. All that matters is how you feel inside.

I [Donovan McNabb] believe that we lost to teams we should have beaten. Not because I think they are not good - they are. But I still believe we are better; we just didn't show it.

He must not have watched game film because going 30 minutes without a first down didn't show the Eagles being better. 4 straight 3 and outs didn't do it. And I'm pretty sure getting out-rushed 203 to 58 and being booed off their own field definitely didn't prove the E-A-G-L-E-S to be the superior team. But either way, a fact is fact and the Eagles were the only NFC East team to not make the playoffs last year and they are right on track to repeat this year. So if they know in their heart's that they are a better team after losing games, I guess they don't know what "better" is.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

:(

 

[davidwb]

stupid Skins should be 10-5...how could they lose to St. Louis and Cincy???

 

[thayman]

stupid Skins should be 10-5...how could they lose to St. Louis and Cincy???

Because even though they won a few big games they are still just an average team in the middle of a rebuild.

 

[fatness]

The Redskins are only 4 games away from the loss to the Giants. No matter how good those 4 games were (and all the scores were relatively close), 4 weeks isn't light years. It's a modest streak of playing very well. It's grounds for optimism. It's a reason to think the Redskins may beat the Giants and may win rematches with the Eagles and Cowboys. But it's no proof they're better. To be better than someone you have to beat them. Ric Flair is right.

Wow, an awful lot has happened in Redskin land since I posted that. But my caution against getting too excited over a 4 game win streak was on target. Washington just climbed above .500 again today.And Washington is better than Philly this year.

 

[dallas428]

look, i've been the ZORNIEST from day one...i loved the game today...blow this team and management up over the off season and in 4-5 years you guys may sniff the playoffs...OH ME SO ZORNIE!!! OH ME SO ZORNIE!!!...great game guys....

 

[fatness]

great game guys....

Nice game against the Ravens, choker.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

look, i've been the ZORNIEST from day one...i loved the game today...blow this team and management up over the off season and in 4-5 years you guys may sniff the playoffs...OH ME SO ZORNIE!!! OH ME SO ZORNIE!!!...great game guys....

Maybe some year you'll have a wining december again. While posting this I belive the Ravens just ran another 80 yard td run!!!!

 

[TitusIII]

They are, but McNabb made some amazingly clutch throws on that last drive, one dropped TD, and one miss by an inch...fun to watch...

 

[MikeApf]

look, i've been the ZORNIEST from day one...i loved the game today...blow this team and management up over the off season and in 4-5 years you guys may sniff the playoffs...OH ME SO ZORNIE!!! OH ME SO ZORNIE!!!...great game guys....

Here's the difference between the Redskins and Cowboys seasons:1. Redskins came into this season an average team with a first year head coach. Therefore, most people thought they would be average or below average. They are set to end the season at 8-8 or 9-7, about where most thought they would be.2. The Cowboys came into the season Super Bowl favorites and now will be lucky to squeak into the playoffs.Zorn is not a terrific coach yet but Phillips has clearly underachieved to a greater extent with his hot shot crew. Wait, let me write your response for you: OH ME SO ZORNIE ME SO ZORNIE I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW SUCKIE MY OWN TEAMIE IS!The point is...yeah, Redskins are a team mismanaged from the top -- Synder and Cerrato have the team going in the wrong direction. But the Cowboys are the last team we need to be taking heat from. Maybe we'll "sniff the playoffs" in 4-5 years? Since when has Dallas been a force in the playoffs? Aikman, Irvin and Smith have been retired for years. LOLM

 

[Manster]

look, i've been the ZORNIEST from day one...i loved the game today...blow this team and management up over the off season and in 4-5 years you guys may sniff the playoffs...OH ME SO ZORNIE!!! OH ME SO ZORNIE!!!...great game guys....

Here's the difference between the Redskins and Cowboys seasons:1. Redskins came into this season an average team with a first year head coach. Therefore, most people thought they would be average or below average. They are set to end the season at 8-8 or 9-7, about where most thought they would be.2. The Cowboys came into the season Super Bowl favorites and now will be lucky to squeak into the playoffs.Zorn is not a terrific coach yet but Phillips has clearly underachieved to a greater extent with his hot shot crew. Wait, let me write your response for you: OH ME SO ZORNIE ME SO ZORNIE I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW SUCKIE MY OWN TEAMIE IS!The point is...yeah, Redskins are a team mismanaged from the top -- Synder and Cerrato have the team going in the wrong direction. But the Cowboys are the last team we need to be taking heat from. Maybe we'll "sniff the playoffs" in 4-5 years? Since when has Dallas been a force in the playoffs? Aikman, Irvin and Smith have been retired for years. LOLM

you've made some good points. but dont forget, a big part of the reason for Dallas' underachieving has been key injuries. it's not an excuse, as i will not make any. the Cowboys dont deserve to make the playoffs the way they are playing right now. i'm simply adding the injury thing to the equation. key injuries can change a teams season very quickly.

 

[hooptd]

look, i've been the ZORNIEST from day one...i loved the game today...blow this team and management up over the off season and in 4-5 years you guys may sniff the playoffs...OH ME SO ZORNIE!!! OH ME SO ZORNIE!!!...great game guys....

Here's the difference between the Redskins and Cowboys seasons:1. Redskins came into this season an average team with a first year head coach. Therefore, most people thought they would be average or below average. They are set to end the season at 8-8 or 9-7, about where most thought they would be.2. The Cowboys came into the season Super Bowl favorites and now will be lucky to squeak into the playoffs.

Zorn is not a terrific coach yet but Phillips has clearly underachieved to a greater extent with his hot shot crew.

Wait, let me write your response for you: OH ME SO ZORNIE ME SO ZORNIE I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW SUCKIE MY OWN TEAMIE IS!

The point is...yeah, Redskins are a team mismanaged from the top -- Synder and Cerrato have the team going in the wrong direction. But the Cowboys are the last team we need to be taking heat from. Maybe we'll "sniff the playoffs" in 4-5 years? Since when has Dallas been a force in the playoffs? Aikman, Irvin and Smith have been retired for years. LOL

M

I think you're way off base on a couple of your statements. First of all, I don't think I saw even one prediction the Redskins would finish 8-8. And this idea about Snyder still being a meddling owner needs to be put to rest. I think over the last few years, he's shown great restraint in going after the high priced free agents like he has in the past. Zorn is a rookie head coach and he's had some games where it's showed but I think his future is bright.

 

[simmonjm]

look, i've been the ZORNIEST from day one...i loved the game today...blow this team and management up over the off season and in 4-5 years you guys may sniff the playoffs...OH ME SO ZORNIE!!! OH ME SO ZORNIE!!!...great game guys....

Here's the difference between the Redskins and Cowboys seasons:1. Redskins came into this season an average team with a first year head coach. Therefore, most people thought they would be average or below average. They are set to end the season at 8-8 or 9-7, about where most thought they would be.

2. The Cowboys came into the season Super Bowl favorites and now will be lucky to squeak into the playoffs.

Zorn is not a terrific coach yet but Phillips has clearly underachieved to a greater extent with his hot shot crew.

Wait, let me write your response for you: OH ME SO ZORNIE ME SO ZORNIE I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW SUCKIE MY OWN TEAMIE IS!

The point is...yeah, Redskins are a team mismanaged from the top -- Synder and Cerrato have the team going in the wrong direction. But the Cowboys are the last team we need to be taking heat from. Maybe we'll "sniff the playoffs" in 4-5 years? Since when has Dallas been a force in the playoffs? Aikman, Irvin and Smith have been retired for years. LOL

M

you've made some good points. but dont forget, a big part of the reason for Dallas' underachieving has been key injuries. it's not an excuse, as i will not make any. the Cowboys dont deserve to make the playoffs the way they are playing right now. i'm simply adding the injury thing to the equation. key injuries can change a teams season very quickly.

I dont get this. Who exactly should go over them? Giants have lost 2 straight, Cards have gotten embarrased in past 2 weeks, Bucs lost to the Chargers at home, Eagles lost to Skins

 

[MikeApf]

look, i've been the ZORNIEST from day one...i loved the game today...blow this team and management up over the off season and in 4-5 years you guys may sniff the playoffs...OH ME SO ZORNIE!!! OH ME SO ZORNIE!!!...great game guys....

Here's the difference between the Redskins and Cowboys seasons:1. Redskins came into this season an average team with a first year head coach. Therefore, most people thought they would be average or below average. They are set to end the season at 8-8 or 9-7, about where most thought they would be.2. The Cowboys came into the season Super Bowl favorites and now will be lucky to squeak into the playoffs.

Zorn is not a terrific coach yet but Phillips has clearly underachieved to a greater extent with his hot shot crew.

Wait, let me write your response for you: OH ME SO ZORNIE ME SO ZORNIE I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW SUCKIE MY OWN TEAMIE IS!

The point is...yeah, Redskins are a team mismanaged from the top -- Synder and Cerrato have the team going in the wrong direction. But the Cowboys are the last team we need to be taking heat from. Maybe we'll "sniff the playoffs" in 4-5 years? Since when has Dallas been a force in the playoffs? Aikman, Irvin and Smith have been retired for years. LOL

M

I think you're way off base on a couple of your statements. First of all, I don't think I saw even one prediction the Redskins would finish 8-8. And this idea about Snyder still being a meddling owner needs to be put to rest. I think over the last few years, he's shown great restraint in going after the high priced free agents like he has in the past. Zorn is a rookie head coach and he's had some games where it's showed but I think his future is bright.

Well, I dunno exactly what they were predicting for the Redskins record wise, but it was pretty clear that they were supposed to be no better than third in the division -- behind NYG and Dallas. I guess I'm interpreting that as folks saying Skins were average. I mean, there are only 4 teams in the division!I will respectfully disagree with you about the mismanagement from the top. Sure, Snyder was a bit more hands off with Gibbs, cause Gibbs was his idol, but he and Cerrato still run the management of the team and it's still pretty shaky leadership. This year, they tried to trade for Chad Johnson, then in the draft ended up drafting 2 WRs and 1 TE in the second round, pretty much ignoring the O and D Lines. That is simply not smart drafting in my opinion. The Redskins need to focus on their Offensive and Defensive lines and they are just not doing so. I actually think it's pretty well accepted that Vinnie Cerrato is not competant and that he's got his job as a Snyder yes man. I thought this was common knowledge in fact.

I do agree that Zorn has an excellent future. I hope that Snyder sticks with him. I was just saying, first year coach, you don't expect much. But I agree that the guy is not bad.

M

 

[MikeApf]

look, i've been the ZORNIEST from day one...i loved the game today...blow this team and management up over the off season and in 4-5 years you guys may sniff the playoffs...OH ME SO ZORNIE!!! OH ME SO ZORNIE!!!...great game guys....

Here's the difference between the Redskins and Cowboys seasons:1. Redskins came into this season an average team with a first year head coach. Therefore, most people thought they would be average or below average. They are set to end the season at 8-8 or 9-7, about where most thought they would be.2. The Cowboys came into the season Super Bowl favorites and now will be lucky to squeak into the playoffs.Zorn is not a terrific coach yet but Phillips has clearly underachieved to a greater extent with his hot shot crew. Wait, let me write your response for you: OH ME SO ZORNIE ME SO ZORNIE I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW SUCKIE MY OWN TEAMIE IS!The point is...yeah, Redskins are a team mismanaged from the top -- Synder and Cerrato have the team going in the wrong direction. But the Cowboys are the last team we need to be taking heat from. Maybe we'll "sniff the playoffs" in 4-5 years? Since when has Dallas been a force in the playoffs? Aikman, Irvin and Smith have been retired for years. LOLM

you've made some good points. but dont forget, a big part of the reason for Dallas' underachieving has been key injuries. it's not an excuse, as i will not make any. the Cowboys dont deserve to make the playoffs the way they are playing right now. i'm simply adding the injury thing to the equation. key injuries can change a teams season very quickly.

I hear you...you guys have had some very rough injuries this year...Romo, Williams, Barber, etc. And to be fair to the Cowboys, the whole pre-season hype of being the Super Bowl favorites is not really fair to the team either, as it adds lots of undue pressure.I just reacted the way I did because that dude just seemed to be taunting for no reason...but that's no excuse...M

 

[fatness]

I just reacted the way I did because that dude just seemed to be taunting for no reason...but that's no excuse...M

He's just frustrated because the Cowboy team thread (which is full of pretty intelligent posting, by the way; Cowboys have some good fans) has a "Must Be At Least This Tall To Post Here" limitation, so he apparently can't post there.

 

[GoBirds]

The Redskins are only 4 games away from the loss to the Giants. No matter how good those 4 games were (and all the scores were relatively close), 4 weeks isn't light years. It's a modest streak of playing very well. It's grounds for optimism. It's a reason to think the Redskins may beat the Giants and may win rematches with the Eagles and Cowboys. But it's no proof they're better. To be better than someone you have to beat them. Ric Flair is right.

Wow, an awful lot has happened in Redskin land since I posted that. But my caution against getting too excited over a 4 game win streak was on target. Washington just climbed above .500 again today.And Washington is better than Philly this year.

......And officially out of the playoffs, Congrats!

 

[thayman]

The Redskins are only 4 games away from the loss to the Giants. No matter how good those 4 games were (and all the scores were relatively close), 4 weeks isn't light years. It's a modest streak of playing very well. It's grounds for optimism. It's a reason to think the Redskins may beat the Giants and may win rematches with the Eagles and Cowboys. But it's no proof they're better. To be better than someone you have to beat them. Ric Flair is right.

Wow, an awful lot has happened in Redskin land since I posted that. But my caution against getting too excited over a 4 game win streak was on target. Washington just climbed above .500 again today.And Washington is better than Philly this year.

......And officially out of the playoffs, Congrats!

They finished right where most Skins fans figured at the begining of the year. Nice to see your Eagles choking away yet another big game. E-A-G-L-E-S!!!!!!!

 

[fatness]

......And officially out of the playoffs, Congrats!

The way they played during the middle of the year made it clear that they're not a playoff team. And even today, their offense did little. Very good defense, even without defensive line pressure. But the offense just. does. not. score. But they did beat Philly twice, so they have that going for them.

 

[GoBirds]

The Redskins are only 4 games away from the loss to the Giants. No matter how good those 4 games were (and all the scores were relatively close), 4 weeks isn't light years. It's a modest streak of playing very well. It's grounds for optimism. It's a reason to think the Redskins may beat the Giants and may win rematches with the Eagles and Cowboys. But it's no proof they're better. To be better than someone you have to beat them. Ric Flair is right.

Wow, an awful lot has happened in Redskin land since I posted that. But my caution against getting too excited over a 4 game win streak was on target. Washington just climbed above .500 again today.And Washington is better than Philly this year.

......And officially out of the playoffs, Congrats!

They finished right where most Skins fans figured at the begining of the year. Nice to see your Eagles choking away yet another big game. E-A-G-L-E-S!!!!!!!

Eagles did choke ......but......are still ahead of the Deadskins who are officially out of the playoffs, congrats. I would say good luck in the draft but if you have any picks next year you will just trade them for TJ Duckett. This is your year.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

The Redskins are only 4 games away from the loss to the Giants. No matter how good those 4 games were (and all the scores were relatively close), 4 weeks isn't light years. It's a modest streak of playing very well. It's grounds for optimism. It's a reason to think the Redskins may beat the Giants and may win rematches with the Eagles and Cowboys. But it's no proof they're better. To be better than someone you have to beat them. Ric Flair is right.

Wow, an awful lot has happened in Redskin land since I posted that. But my caution against getting too excited over a 4 game win streak was on target. Washington just climbed above .500 again today.And Washington is better than Philly this year.

......And officially out of the playoffs, Congrats!

They finished right where most Skins fans figured at the begining of the year. Nice to see your Eagles choking away yet another big game. E-A-G-L-E-S!!!!!!!

Eagles did choke ......but......are still ahead of the Deadskins who are officially out of the playoffs, congrats. I would say good luck in the draft but if you have any picks next year you will just trade them for TJ Duckett. This is your year.

I would say good luck in the playoffs, but if you did make it, youd just loose like every other time you where there.

 

[fred_1_15301]

The Redskins are only 4 games away from the loss to the Giants. No matter how good those 4 games were (and all the scores were relatively close), 4 weeks isn't light years. It's a modest streak of playing very well. It's grounds for optimism. It's a reason to think the Redskins may beat the Giants and may win rematches with the Eagles and Cowboys. But it's no proof they're better. To be better than someone you have to beat them. Ric Flair is right.

Wow, an awful lot has happened in Redskin land since I posted that. But my caution against getting too excited over a 4 game win streak was on target. Washington just climbed above .500 again today.And Washington is better than Philly this year.

......And officially out of the playoffs, Congrats!

They finished right where most Skins fans figured at the begining of the year. Nice to see your Eagles choking away yet another big game. E-A-G-L-E-S!!!!!!!

Eagles did choke ......but......are still ahead of the Deadskins who are officially out of the playoffs, congrats. I would say good luck in the draft but if you have any picks next year you will just trade them for TJ Duckett. This is your year.

You should quit while you're behind. The Skins beat you guys twice and probably knocked you out of the playoffs. Nothing else to be said.

 

[dallas428]

skin fans should research there own posts earlier in the year...they couldnt make a post without talking bad about the boys...now they want to say they didnt expect much this year...lol....tater pumps that bum you have at qb like he is the next aikman....he aint....portis runs ur team cause the owner lets him...its not known cause nobody cares about the skins....seriously..they dont....just local media...you want the cowboys to be your main rival but ur not...in ur eyes...we are...in the eyes of everyone elsse...you have no rivals...you're just the skins...a team that doesnt matter much....even in the 80's when you won something you wernt considered much...this is fact...and i am zornie...ive been the zorniest since the hire...who is gonna be the new coach....lol...ya know its coming...this dope did enuff for another year but he will be gone soon...just like every skin coach....good luck guys...thanks for the win today,,,,

 

[GoBirds]

The Redskins are only 4 games away from the loss to the Giants. No matter how good those 4 games were (and all the scores were relatively close), 4 weeks isn't light years. It's a modest streak of playing very well. It's grounds for optimism. It's a reason to think the Redskins may beat the Giants and may win rematches with the Eagles and Cowboys. But it's no proof they're better. To be better than someone you have to beat them. Ric Flair is right.

Wow, an awful lot has happened in Redskin land since I posted that. But my caution against getting too excited over a 4 game win streak was on target. Washington just climbed above .500 again today.And Washington is better than Philly this year.

......And officially out of the playoffs, Congrats!

They finished right where most Skins fans figured at the begining of the year. Nice to see your Eagles choking away yet another big game. E-A-G-L-E-S!!!!!!!

Eagles did choke ......but......are still ahead of the Deadskins who are officially out of the playoffs, congrats. I would say good luck in the draft but if you have any picks next year you will just trade them for TJ Duckett. This is your year.

You should quit while you're behind. The Skins beat you guys twice and probably knocked you out of the playoffs. Nothing else to be said.

The Skins beat the Eagles.......yet are still behind the Eagles and are out of the playoffs. Nice work.

 

[fred_1_15301]

The Redskins are only 4 games away from the loss to the Giants. No matter how good those 4 games were (and all the scores were relatively close), 4 weeks isn't light years. It's a modest streak of playing very well. It's grounds for optimism. It's a reason to think the Redskins may beat the Giants and may win rematches with the Eagles and Cowboys. But it's no proof they're better. To be better than someone you have to beat them. Ric Flair is right.

Wow, an awful lot has happened in Redskin land since I posted that. But my caution against getting too excited over a 4 game win streak was on target. Washington just climbed above .500 again today.And Washington is better than Philly this year.

......And officially out of the playoffs, Congrats!

They finished right where most Skins fans figured at the begining of the year. Nice to see your Eagles choking away yet another big game. E-A-G-L-E-S!!!!!!!

Eagles did choke ......but......are still ahead of the Deadskins who are officially out of the playoffs, congrats. I would say good luck in the draft but if you have any picks next year you will just trade them for TJ Duckett. This is your year.

You should quit while you're behind. The Skins beat you guys twice and probably knocked you out of the playoffs. Nothing else to be said.

The Skins beat the Eagles.......yet are still behind the Eagles and are out of the playoffs. Nice work.

I'm not even a Skins fan but you're acting like a child. The bottom line is that neither team will likely make the playoffs and the Skins beat the Eagles twice. You can say the Eagles are the better team and I would probably agree with you. At the end of the day, what difference does it really make?

 

[fatness]

who is gonna be the new coach....lol...ya know its coming

who is gonna be the new coach....lol...ya know its coming

 

[fatness]

Eagles did choke ......but......

Eagles did choke ......but......

Eagles did choke ......but......

Eagles did choke ......but......

Eagles did choke ......but......

 

[Ripleys]

Why can't the Skins seem to get over the hump? Ladies and Gentleman, I present, Jason Campbell.

Let's start with Jason's best statistical game this year-

23 for 28, 328 yards, 1 TD vs Lions

OR

231 Yards, 2 TDs, 2 INTs vs Dallas.

Now here is a list of QBs who's best game this year surpasses Jason's best game-

Brees

Warner

Cutler

Peyton

Rivers

McNabb

Cassel

Garrard

Rodgers

Pennington

Ryan

Romo

Farve

Big Ben

Eli

Delhomme (one could argue a tie with Jason's best effort, but he had a few less yards but a 2 TD game effort)

Schaub

Collins

Orton

Flacco (again, I could argue he's tied with Jason's best effort)

Edwards

Thigpen

Garcia

Russell (ouch)

T.Jackson (ouch)

Shaun Hill (ouch)

D. Anderson

*I stopped looking after this one*

Now here's the list of starting QBs who haven't had a better game than Jason this year-

Bulger

Yep, that's it. Even Frerotte has had a superior game (300+ yards and 3 Tds in a game this year)

Tonight Jason will drop out of the top 15 in total passing yards this year. He's tied for 24th in total TDs throw. He's 14th in completion rate. He's also the 4th most sacked QB this year.

I believe the Skins HAVE to find a new starter next year. I hope the team drafts another QB next year (but address the lines for God's sake!) give Colt a shot, and perhaps pickup a FA QB that isn't 30+ years old.

Thoughts Skins fans?

 

[GoBirds]

Eagles did choke ......but......

Eagles did choke ......but......

Eagles did choke ......but......

Eagles did choke ......but......

Eagles did choke ......but......

Guess it's not choking when you were already picked to finish last huh?Well congrats on 2 wins against the Eagles, you reached your ceiling. Now fire the coach, trade the draft picks, and spend all the cap money for another 4th place.

 

[MikeApf]

who is gonna be the new coach....lol...ya know its coming

who is gonna be the new coach....lol...ya know its coming

 

[JuniorNB]

Is it better to be a very mediocre team who is never really in the playoff hunt and finishes right where they should finish, or a team that has played and beaten the league's best teams and, a times, looks like they are capable of making a run to the Super Bowl, only to choke in what should have been the easiest game on their schedule over the last five weeks?

To me (as an Eagles fan), I almost think it would have been better if they played Redskinish all year. It would be much less frustrating.

It's going to suck watching the Steelers, Giants, Falcons, and Cardinals playing in the playoffs, knowing full-well that we handily beat all of them.

Yesterday's game was the definition of 'choke'. After the Baltimore game, the team seemed to rally together and was playing fantastic football. The other teams in the league seemed to be cooperating as well. All the other wild card contenders were dropping games left and right. Everyone was looking at the Dallas game as the true playoff-or-no-playoff game. And then to lay an egg yesterday.......

 

[Tanner9919]

Is it better to be a very mediocre team who is never really in the playoff hunt and finishes right where they should finish, or a team that has played and beaten the league's best teams and, a times, looks like they are capable of making a run to the Super Bowl, only to choke in what should have been the easiest game on their schedule over the last five weeks?

To me (as an Eagles fan), I almost think it would have been better if they played Redskinish all year. It would be much less frustrating.

It's going to suck watching the Steelers, Giants, Falcons, and Cardinals playing in the playoffs, knowing full-well that we handily beat all of them.

Yesterday's game was the definition of 'choke'. After the Baltimore game, the team seemed to rally together and was playing fantastic football. The other teams in the league seemed to be cooperating as well. All the other wild card contenders were dropping games left and right. Everyone was looking at the Dallas game as the true playoff-or-no-playoff game. And then to lay an egg yesterday.......

didn't watch the game, but can we please give credit to the other team once in a while? Everyone throws out the 'choke' line, but it simply comes down to the better team won...Washington has beaten the Eagles TWICE this season...at what point do you admit that the Redskins are the better team , because they most definitely are..Eagles aren't that good.. they beat the Giants handily? they only won by 6 pts.But in the first matchup, the Iggles got trampled by the Giants running game...so did they choke in one game and put it all together in the second game?

The Eagles TIED with Cincy ( one of the worst teams in NFL history)..and your QB didn't even know there was such a thing as a tie in an NFL game!!!.. let me guess, they choked against the Bengals that day?

they were trounced by the Ravens, did they choke in a 36-7 ball game?

did they choke vs. Chicago?

puh-lease..

 

[Crusaderfan]

who is gonna be the new coach....lol...ya know its coming

who is gonna be the new coach....lol...ya know its coming

I guess Zorn now knows who the worst coach in the world is. Takes a timeout 2 plays into the 2nd half. Wonder what they did at halftime - eat? Boy - that TO would have looked good on the last play of the game. EXCEPT they would have been at the 1 foot line and we;ve seen all season how that works out...

Reverts back to his wonderful game plan that allowed them to pull off a tie vs Cinn. Run Westbrook 12 times, throw it 46 times. With both Curtis and Baskett not even dressed. During the last drive it was like a circus watching the WR's trying to figure out where to line up.

As usual, Buckhalter watches from the sidelines even though Westbrook was playing on one leg at the end.

Has the nerve in his post game press conference to say the defense got off to a slow start. Are you friggin' kidding me. The only touchdown they gave up was when McNabb gave them the ball at the 22. It was 3-0 at the half. Yeah - the defense sure stunk the joint out Andy. I can't take any more of this buffoon.

Maybe 5 years from now Reid will realize that the successful teams are RUNNING THE FOOTBALL... Maybe

 

[JuniorNB]

Is it better to be a very mediocre team who is never really in the playoff hunt and finishes right where they should finish, or a team that has played and beaten the league's best teams and, a times, looks like they are capable of making a run to the Super Bowl, only to choke in what should have been the easiest game on their schedule over the last five weeks?

To me (as an Eagles fan), I almost think it would have been better if they played Redskinish all year. It would be much less frustrating.

It's going to suck watching the Steelers, Giants, Falcons, and Cardinals playing in the playoffs, knowing full-well that we handily beat all of them.

Yesterday's game was the definition of 'choke'. After the Baltimore game, the team seemed to rally together and was playing fantastic football. The other teams in the league seemed to be cooperating as well. All the other wild card contenders were dropping games left and right. Everyone was looking at the Dallas game as the true playoff-or-no-playoff game. And then to lay an egg yesterday.......

didn't watch the game, but can we please give credit to the other team once in a while? Everyone throws out the 'choke' line, but it simply comes down to the better team won...Washington has beaten the Eagles TWICE this season...at what point do you admit that the Redskins are the better team , because they most definitely are..Eagles aren't that good.. they beat the Giants handily? they only won by 6 pts.But in the first matchup, the Iggles got trampled by the Giants running game...so did they choke in one game and put it all together in the second game?

The Eagles TIED with Cincy ( one of the worst teams in NFL history)..and your QB didn't even know there was such a thing as a tie in an NFL game!!!.. let me guess, they choked against the Bengals that day?

they were trounced by the Ravens, did they choke in a 36-7 ball game?

did they choke vs. Chicago?

puh-lease..

The only game I said they choked in was yesterday's.As far as the Bengal and Raven games, the Eagles went through a bad stretch, offensively. Don't let the Raven score fool you. It was 10-7 when McNabb was pulled. Kolb threw an interception in the endzone that was returned for a touchdown. That's a 14 point swing. As for the tie with Cincinnati, the entire NFC East had trouble with them this year. In fact, the Redskins lost to them. They are far from one of teh worst teams in the NFL. The Giants needed overtime to beat them earlier, as well.

When you consider how Philly has been playing, there is no arguing that they choked yesterday. There is no excuse for Jackson to catch those two balls in teh fourth quarter. That is the very definition of choke.