Yet another Pitt Bull attack (1 Viewer)

[Chaka]

This is the true problem with Pits. Everyone seems to be focused on how few deaths occur. No one seems to focus on the number of attacks and the serious harm involved or trauma that follows. When did our benchmark on danger become "Only if it kills you is it dangerous"

Because that same logic to the dozens of other issues that are far greater threats to everyday Americans.  Focusing on deaths is about expedience.  And I am pretty sure retrievers are responsible for the most dog bites overall.

 

[Cold Dead Hands]

Because that same logic to the dozens of other issues that are far greater threats to everyday Americans.  Focusing on deaths is about expedience.  And I am pretty sure retrievers are responsible for the most dog bites overall.

I am pretty sure you are wrong on the retrievers part. I have said it before, but a large part of my job deals with dog bites in the Commonwealth of Virginia. I have access to 14 years worth of data for northern VA and 3 years worth for the rest of the state.

 

[Henry Ford]

Because that same logic to the dozens of other issues that are far greater threats to everyday Americans.  Focusing on deaths is about expedience.  And I am pretty sure retrievers are responsible for the most dog bites overall.

I don't know where you're getting your stats, but a 32-year study of dog bites in the U.S. and Canada found that 86% of all attacks that induce bodily harm requiring extensive treatment are by molosser breeds.  Mastiffs, rotts, pits, boxers, etc. Retrievers are way down the list.

Highlights:

Even if the pit bull category was "split four ways," attacks by pit bulls and their closest relatives would still outnumber attacks by any other dog breed.

Pit bulls are noteworthy for attacking adults almost as frequently as children. This is a very rare pattern, only seen elsewhere in the bullmastiff/presa canario line.

If a pit bull or rottweiler has a bad moment, instead of a person being bitten, often a person is maimed for life or killed. This has created off-the-chart actuarial risk.

 

[ChainsawU]

With an estimated 73 million dogs in American households, it is fair to say that dogs are the most common household pets in the United States. In 2010, it was estimated that over 800,000 households in Maryland included a dog. Additionally, pit bulls are the second most popular type of dogs registered in the state. Although most of these pets are perfectly domesticated, about five million Americans experience a dog attack every year. Some of these attacks result in death, and more than half of the victims of all attacks are children. For this reason, there is a long history of debates about the best policy approaches to deal with the issues raised by injuries caused by dogs.

The vast majority of dog attack related deaths have been caused by pit bulls. Consequently, the most prevalent debate in recent years has centered on whether that specific dog breed should be treated differently through legislation and regulation. As a result, a number of jurisdictions have enacted breed-specific regulations, which, in turn, have generated litigation to challenge their validity.

Adding to the debate, in 2012, the American Bar Association (“ABA”) adopted a resolution urging legislative bodies and governmental agencies to adopt comprehensive breed-neutral dangerous dog laws that ensure due process protections for owners, encourage responsible pet ownership, and focus on the behavior of both dog owners and dogs. The resolution did not dispute that there is a need to regulate dog ownership due to the conduct of certain dogs or their owners, but it emphasized that the regulation should be fair and neutral.

More importantly, however, the ABA explicitly took the position that breed-specific regulation has been the result of “panic policymaking” enacted out of emotion that often fails to consider the effects on the rights of responsible dog owners. In short, the ABA has decided to oppose breed-specific regulation, calling it discriminatory because it considers such laws to be inconsistent with traditional notions of due process.

The report that accompanied the ABA’s resolution suggested that, instead of adopting breed-specific regulation, jurisdictions should look for alternative ways to promote safety and responsible dog ownership. As an example, it cited the fact that, following a series of well publicized dog attack incidents, the Illinois Legislature enacted comprehensive, non-breed-specific, generic public safety measures that targeted reckless owners and aggressive dog behavior.

What the report does not mention is that legislation is not the only alternative when it comes to regulating conduct. Tort law doctrines also operate as forms of regulation. In fact, one of the applicable statutes in Illinois, the Animal Control Act, is based on the principle that civil liability for injuries caused by dogs should be based on a very strict theory of liability. Thus, while avoiding discrimination among breeds of dogs in regulation, the state is using its tort law doctrines to impose a very high level of indirect regulation. Not surprisingly, Illinois had the second highest total payouts and the largest number of dog bite insurance claims nationally in 2010.

Bernabe, A. (2016). CIVIL LIABILITY FOR INJURIES CAUSED BY DOGS AFTER TRACEY V. SOLESKY: NEW PATH TO THE FUTURE OR BACK TO THE PAST?. Seton Hall Legislative Journal, 40(1), 29-51.

 

[ChainsawU]

It's the owners' fault, which is why policymakers have already passed non-breed specific regulations. Blaming a breed is discriminatory.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

It's the owners' fault, which is why policymakers have already passed non-breed specific regulations. Blaming a breed is discriminatory.

I'm a discriminating fellow, or I like to think that I am.

 

[Henry Ford]

It's the owners' fault, which is why policymakers have already passed non-breed specific regulations. Blaming a breed is discriminatory.

As soon as pit bulls become a protected class, that will be a helpful defense.

 

[ChainsawU]

There is a book that just came out on May 10, 2016, called Pit Bull: The Battle over an American Icon, by Bronwen Dickey. It's a "hugely illuminating story of how a popular breed of dog became the most demonized and supposedly the most dangerous of dogs - and what role humans have played in the transformation."

For almost 200 years pit bulls were considered America’s dog, with nicknames such as “nanny dog” and “Yankee Terriers.” In the 1970s something went wrong. Journalist Dickey examines the shift from Our Gang‘s films featuring “Pete the Pup” to monsters “biologically hardwired to kill.” The culmination of seven years of research, the title crosses all disciplines from history to genetics; the result is a thoughtful examination of pit bulls and an intense look at ourselves and society. Dickey adeptly scrutinizes the science used to condemn pit bulls to separate fact from fiction and thus weaves a narrative that artfully relays both the hard science and the emotion of the pit bull issue. She also shows how the media and social media kept the “pit bull panic” on a 24-hour loop, preventing the issue from ebbing like previous “breed” panics. The author also articulates how people’s expectations of dogs are so high that they are unachievable and the one thing that prevents the most dog bites is education.

Ennis, L. (2016). Pit Bull: The Battle Over an American Icon. Library Journal, 141(3), 128.

 

[pantherclub]

It's the owners' fault, which is why policymakers have already passed non-breed specific regulations. Blaming a breed is discriminatory.

lol its a dog

 

[Thorn]

I think everyone agrees that yes, it is the owners.  What I don't understand how the pro-pit people get around the difference in degree.  Someone said it a few pages back -- a bad owner with most breeds, at worst, means a trip to the hospital for a shot and maybe some stitches.  A bad owner with a pit bull at worst means a trip to the funeral home.  

 

[eoMMan]

I am pretty sure you are wrong on the retrievers part. I have said it before, but a large part of my job deals with dog bites in the Commonwealth of Virginia. I have access to 14 years worth of data for northern VA and 3 years worth for the rest of the state.

In the UK (or what used to be the UK), Jack Russells topped the list for most likely to bite humans.

Wonder if they will ban that breed?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/30836/jack-russell-tops-cops-list-of-dogs-most-likely-to-bite-humans/

 

[DallasDMac]

In the UK (or what used to be the UK), Jack Russells topped the list for most likely to bite humans.

Wonder if they will ban that breed?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/30836/jack-russell-tops-cops-list-of-dogs-most-likely-to-bite-humans/

3. Pit bull terrier


Though many are perfectly lovable, a common trait is attacking without warning.

They are banned in the UK.

 

[DallasDMac]

http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-fatalities-2016.php

I'd say 2/3rds of the owners of this year's pit bull fatalities seem pretty responsible. Definitely a few bad apples though.

 

[ChainsawU]

You might want to think twice about using that "dogs bite" website as a resource for an unbiased argument. And it's obvious nobody bothered to check the references they used, as the ones that don't directly point back to their own website are simply news articles and facebook pages. Your citation is basically as relevant as a poll in Parents' Magazine to find out if kids should be paid for doing their chores or not. It's a ridiculous citation.

 

[ChainsawU]

The Lowdown on Dog Bite Statistics

As an interesting exercise in the lecture I attended, Diane Jessup asked how many people had ever been bitten by a dog? Perhaps half of the group raised their hands. Second, how many reported the bite? One hand went up, and the person immediately protested that they didn't actually report it, the hospital did.

"Throw away the Centers for Disease Control and Humane Society of the United States statistics on dog bites," Jessup says. "So many go unreported. Maybe 10 percent are figured in the statistics." And because the bites that are reported are usually ones that required a hospital visit, large breeds tend to be over-represented in those statistics.

Often, when you're looking at dog bite statistics, it's important to really understand what you're looking at. In the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) report, for instance, they counted how many people reported a dog bite injury to a medical professional. They found that from 1992 to 1994, dog bites were responsible each year for a total of 4.7 million injuries, of which 800,000 required medical care and nearly 334,000 required visits to hospital emergency departments. Seventeen deaths were attributed to dog bites during the period. The CDC study concluded that the breeds posing the highest risk are Pit Bulls, Rottweilers, German Shepherd Dogs, Siberian Huskies, Alaskan Malamutes, Doberman Pinschers, Chow Chows, Great Danes, St. Bernards and Akitas.

Another survey, published in the October 1991 issue of Veterinary Medicine, asked three behavioral referral specialty practices which breeds exhibited aggressive behavior problems. Topping the list was Springer Spaniels, with 44 out of 50 bites directed at family members. Next came Cocker Spaniels, with 31 out of 32 cases family-directed; German Shepherds, but only 13 of 28 bites involved family members; Golden Retrievers, with 18 out of 24 cases family-directed; and Labrador Retrievers, with 12 of 16 bites involving family members.

A 1990 survey of veterinarians found they recommended most strongly against keeping Chow Chows, Cocker Spaniels, Rottweilers, German Shepherds, Chihuahuas (!) and Chinese Shar-Pei as family pets, and a 1990 report from Adams County Animal Control in Colorado on dog bite frequency by breed ranked Chow Chows first, followed closely by Golden Retrievers.

"In fact, no one really has any idea as to how many bites there are, since anywhere from 15 to about 40 percent of bites go unreported," says nationally syndicated columnist Steve Dale. "And no one knows which breeds bite most, since so many are unreported. And even among those reported, does the police officer, hospital worker or person who was bitten know a German Shepherd Dog from a Belgian Shepherd from a Collie?"

What all this points to, of course, is that the answer to the question, "Which breeds are more dangerous," is, "It depends on whom you are asking and how you phrase the question."

Jessup also blames the media for skewing both statistics and public opinion in their reporting of dog bites. "There was a woman killed by two Briards in Port Orchard, Washington. Did anyone hear about it? Even the local Briards club didn't know about it. It doesn't make the news because Briards aren't scary enough. If it had been a Rottweiler or a Pit Bull, it would have been all over the news."

"A few years ago, I had a long talk with the director of a major city animal control department," recalls Steve Aiken, an animal behaviorist from Minneapolis who has worked in private practice and with numerous humane societies. "It was mostly shoptalk, until we got to breed-specific bans. She pointed out just how great a rote the media can play in public perception. Two weeks earlier, she'd received a call from the local television station, who had heard about a little girl who had been bitten and wanted to do a big stow on dangerous dogs. They started getting the facts, and about five minutes into the interview they asked to get some shots of the dog. When they heard that it was a mid-sized Cocker mix, they decided on the spot not to do the stow at all.

"The director went on to say that in the name of sensationalism, the media (mostly television) tend to pick out a certain breed every five to 10 years as 'the dangerous breed' and publicize them that way. Since the 1970s, the progression has gone from German Shepherds to Dobermans to Rottweilers to Pit Bulls and American Staffordshire Terriers. The problem, of course, is that some bad people want to have a 'dangerous dog,' so they select that breed and raise them that way, and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy."

Smith, C. S. (2002). In Your Own Defense. Dog World, 87(2), 54.

 

[DallasDMac]

You might want to think twice about using that "dogs bite" website as a resource for an unbiased argument. And it's obvious nobody bothered to check the references they used, as the ones that don't directly point back to their own website are simply news articles and facebook pages. Your citation is basically as relevant as a poll in Parents' Magazine to find out if kids should be paid for doing their chores or not. It's a ridiculous citation.

Wait, so news references from local TV, radio and newspaper sites aren't relevant?   Where do you usually get your local news from?

 

[Max Power]

I recommend watching "The Champions" on Netflix.  It follows about 2 dozen of Vick's dogs after they were rescued.  Pretty interesting.

 

[modogg]

Wait, so news references from local TV, radio and newspaper sites aren't relevant?   Where do you usually get your local news from?

 there is literally no help for half of the people in this thread. I have to think this has  to be top 3 thread of people ignoring basic logic and intelligence. and yes, having an analytic mind when presented with local news is not necessarily a bad thing. 

thanks ChainSaw for trying to bring some informed thinking to this thread, but i am afraid to say it is an uphill battle bud

 

[DallasDMac]

 there is literally no help for half of the people in this thread. I have to think this has  to be top 3 thread of people ignoring basic logic and intelligence. and yes, having an analytic mind when presented with local news is not necessarily a bad thing.

I see. Apparently belittling and insulting is the path to "informed thinking" and reasonable discussion. Amazing what passes as "intelligent discussion" in this forum.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

I recommend watching "The Champions" on Netflix.  It follows about 2 dozen of Vick's dogs after they were rescued.  Pretty interesting.

Here is the trailer...i watched the movie ...amazing

 

[Max Power]

Here is the trailer...i watched the movie ...amazing

That first lady was a little overboard, but she did have some interesting insight into why she thought her dog acted how she did.

I was blown away by Lucas, Vick's Champion Dog.  The dog ended up being an office dog at their rehabilitation center because he loved people so much.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

That first lady was a little overboard, but she did have some interesting insight into why she thought her dog acted how she did.

I was blown away by Lucas, Vick's Champion Dog.  The dog ended up being an office dog at their rehabilitation center because he loved people so much.

i made this argument waaay back pages ago in this thread and it fell on blind eyes ...it just doesnt jibe with the whole ''we need to destroy these killing machines '' message thats so popular in this thread

 

[Max Power]

I was pretty anti-pit until I owned my current one.  I've always loved boxers and believe in dog rescues.  In a search for a new family pet, a boxer listing lead to me a boxer/pit mix.  She had her ears cropped and was discarded on the roadside by her previous owner.  This dog has turned out to be the most sweet and loving dog I've ever owned.  I was skeptical at first, but she grew on me.  People still look at me sideways at events and keep their kids from being near her, but I understand its only due to social bias. 

I don't disagree with people who have their bias. I just ask that they look at it from centralized perspective.  A couple incidents dont make the breed.  Just like a could incidents don't make a Religion, culture, affiliation, or race. 

 

[BustedKnuckles]

I was pretty anti-pit until I owned my current one.  I've always loved boxers and believe in dog rescues.  In a search for a new family pet, a boxer listing lead to me a boxer/pit mix.  She had her ears cropped and was discarded on the roadside by her previous owner.  This dog has turned out to be the most sweet and loving dog I've ever owned.  I was skeptical at first, but she grew on me.  People still look at me sideways at events and keep their kids from being near her, but I understand its only due to social bias. 

I don't disagree with people who have their bias. I just ask that they look at it from centralized perspective.  A couple incidents dont make the breed.  Just like a could incidents don't make a Religion, culture, affiliation, or race. 

exactly....like saying all black youths are thugs or all muslims are terrorists or all the Irish are drunks ....dont bunch everyone into stereotypical categories....and that includes animals....the sad part is its humans that bring out the worst in both animals and other people ...we truly are our own worst enemies 

 

[parasaurolophus]

exactly....like saying all black youths are thugs or all muslims are terrorists or all the Irish are drunks ....dont bunch everyone into stereotypical categories....and that includes animals....the sad part is its humans that bring out the worst in both animals and other people ...we truly are our own worst enemies 

Apples to oranges. Or is it wrong to lump fruit into groups now too?

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Apples to oranges. Or is it wrong to lump fruit into groups now too?

why am i not surprised by this retort lol

 

[cockroach]

Walking home from the barber shop today and I'm approached by a huge unleashed black pit bull* off it's leash in some yard where they're having a yard sale.  I'm approaching the dog , who's facing the guy running the yard sale, from behind... so I stop, get it's attention and pet it and continue on my way thinking how terrible of dog owners they are to have that dog lose (right across the street from an elementary school).  The dog joins me.  I get 3 or 4 houses down before I start assuming that this big ### dog isn't owned by the yard sale people.  Long story short... this fker follows me nearly all the way home (crossing one pretty busy street)!!  It was pretty mortifying wondering what other people must be thinking of me as I walk down the street with this beast unleashed beside me.  I don't have any tats or piercings, but I could see how someone could easily mistake me for a d-baggy pit owner.  I ended up speaking to the owner, and he sounds like a nice guy and all, but clearly doesn't take his responsibility as a down owner serious enough (no tags/collar).  Nice dog and all, but a total killing machine and he even went into attack mode when some squirrel or something moved on the other side of the school fence and he starting getting all hunty.   I should've taken him home, but I was so relieved when he ran ahead of me a bit and didn't follow as I turned down my street.  If he had a collar I could grab him by that'd be one thing, but if he went after a kid or a smaller dog on my block, I'd be the one that led him there.  No thanks, walk on fella.

*Why'd I have to mention he was black?!

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Walking home from the barber shop today and I'm approached by a huge unleashed black pit bull* off it's leash in some yard where they're having a yard sale.  I'm approaching the dog , who's facing the guy running the yard sale, from behind... so I stop, get it's attention and pet it and continue on my way thinking how terrible of dog owners they are to have that dog lose (right across the street from an elementary school).  The dog joins me.  I get 3 or 4 houses down before I start assuming that this big ### dog isn't owned by the yard sale people.  Long story short... this fker follows me nearly all the way home (crossing one pretty busy street)!!  It was pretty mortifying wondering what other people must be thinking of me as I walk down the street with this beast unleashed beside me.  I don't have any tats or piercings, but I could see how someone could easily mistake me for a d-baggy pit owner.  I ended up speaking to the owner, and he sounds like a nice guy and all, but clearly doesn't take his responsibility as a down owner serious enough (no tags/collar).  Nice dog and all, but a total killing machine and he even went into attack mode when some squirrel or something moved on the other side of the school fence and he starting getting all hunty.   I should've taken him home, but I was so relieved when he ran ahead of me a bit and didn't follow as I turned down my street.  If he had a collar I could grab him by that'd be one thing, but if he went after a kid or a smaller dog on my block, I'd be the one that led him there.  No thanks, walk on fella.

*Why'd I have to mention he was black?!

and the moral of this story is .....what a nice dog...nothing like the perception people have

 

[cockroach]

and the moral of this story is .....what a nice dog...nothing like the perception people have

until...

Had he came across an old lady walking a chihuahua, or a spooked kid at that school we were at, we might be reading a headline instead of my feel good story. 

But seriously, I'm fine with pit bulls, they are totally over the line, but people have tried to keep real wild animals as pets, not just dormant killing machines.    Can we just say these guys are the best and stop breeding for a dog to compensate for our small penis size? 

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Still a banned breed on most military bases with families. 

 

[ChainsawU]

Still a banned breed on most military bases with families.

To date, "pit bulls" have been either banned or heavily regulated in more than 850 U.S. communities, including the cities of Miami and Denver, as well as in the Canadian province of Ontario and the entire United Kingdom, among other places. Many public-housing projects, apartment complexes, and homeowners' associations refuse to allow pit bulls to reside on the premises. Despite the life-saving contributions of a shelter pit bull named Howard, who served multiple tours in Afghanistan with the U.S. Army's Eighty-Second Airborne Division as a tactical explosive detection dog, pit bulls are banned from privatized housing on all major military bases.

Dickey, Bronwen. Pit Bull: The Battle over an American Icon (Kindle Locations 470-473). Knopf Doubleday Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.

pic of Howard

 

[Mister CIA]

Dog Saves Stranger from Knife Attack

 

[Thorn]

exactly....like saying all black youths are thugs or all muslims are terrorists or all the Irish are drunks ....dont bunch everyone into stereotypical categories....and that includes animals....the sad part is its humans that bring out the worst in both animals and other people ...we truly are our own worst enemies 

This misses the point, though.  The bad apples don't ruin the breed, the strength of the breed ruins the breed.  A bad apple in most breeds can cause a minor injury or stitches.  A bad apple pit can kill someone.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

This misses the point, though.  The bad apples don't ruin the breed, the strength of the breed ruins the breed.  A bad apple in most breeds can cause a minor injury or stitches.  A bad apple pit can kill someone.

wut ?

 

[eoMMan]

and the moral of this story is .....what a nice dog...nothing like the perception people have

No, moral of the story is what a butt hole of an owner leaving his dog loose and not having control  of a large dog (even if the dog is friendly to people).

 

[BustedKnuckles]

No, moral of the story is what a butt hole of an owner leaving his dog loose and not having control  of a large dog (even if the dog is friendly to people).

dear lord

 

[parasaurolophus]

There is a book that just came out on May 10, 2016, called Pit Bull: The Battle over an American Icon, by Bronwen Dickey. It's a "hugely illuminating story of how a popular breed of dog became the most demonized and supposedly the most dangerous of dogs - and what role humans have played in the transformation."

 Pit bulls were not called nanny dogs.

 

[ChainsawU]

Devil's Advocate on the "Dog Saves Stranger from Knife Attack" article; the dog in the photo is most likely some kind of mutt or mixed breed, but putting the words "pit bull" in a headline generates way more emotion, views, clicks, etc..

 

[ChainsawU]

Though many are perfectly lovable, a common trait is attacking without warning.

In 2000 and 2001, researchers from the Institute for Animal Welfare and Behaviour at the University of Veterinary Medicine in Hanover, Germany, put 415 dogs from the allegedly aggressive breeds that had been banned in Lower Saxony (American Staffordshire terriers, Staffordshire bull terriers, Rottweilers, and Dobermans, among others) through behavioral tests that mimicked twenty-one situations that might occur between dogs and humans (including the approach of a stranger and the approach of a “menacing” stranger) and fourteen situations that a dog might experience in its everyday environment (noises, approaching vehicles, umbrellas opening, and so forth). They found that 95 percent of the dogs behaved appropriately during the test. One hundred fifty-eight of them displayed no aggression at all, even when threatened. Another 201 only escalated their behaviors to the level of barking or backing away. Only 37 (9 percent) bit when threatened, and of those only one did not give some type of warning before biting. When these results were compared with a control group of 70 golden retrievers, researchers found “no significant difference” in the behavior of the two groups. As a result, Lower Saxony lifted its breed ban.

Dickey, Bronwen. Pit Bull: The Battle over an American Icon (Kindle Locations 2165-2168). Knopf Doubleday Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.

They are banned in the UK.

The American pit bull terrier did not make its way to the U.K. until the 1970s. Currently, the predominant pit-bull-type breed in Britain is the Staffordshire bull terrier. Britons do not consider Staffords to be pit bulls and are not banned under Britain's Dangerous Dog Act.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Devil's Advocate on the "Dog Saves Stranger from Knife Attack" article; the dog in the photo is most likely some kind of mutt or mixed breed, but putting the words "pit bull" in a headline generates way more emotion, views, clicks, etc..

they do that all the time when reporting attacks ...its usually a mix breed

 

[ChainsawU]

Did you hear about the doberman named Cinderella who pinched herself.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Did you hear about the doberman named Cinderella who pinched herself.

i thought she pinched a loaf 

 

[Max Power]

The wife and I are both in the market for new jobs, so we didnt want to buy a house.  Trying to rent with a pit-mix is brutal.  I just dont understand why some stereotypes are perfectly acceptable while others arent. 

 

[Max Power]

https://www.buzzfeed.com/laurenstrapagiel/seven-pit-bulls-vs-one-cat?utm_term=.aakEP8Pe3#.fmxp3m3NB

Animals...

 

[parasaurolophus]

The wife and I are both in the market for new jobs, so we didnt want to buy a house.  Trying to rent with a pit-mix is brutal.  I just dont understand why some stereotypes are perfectly acceptable while others arent. 

I just dont understand why somebody would be confused why applying a stereotype to a dog is different than applying a stereotype to a human. 

 

[Otis]

Such sweet dogs. EXTREMELY DISTURBING VIDEO

Neat pets gang. 

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Neat pets gang. 

watched that again and paused it when it showed the dog in question...and i dont think its even a pit bull ...looks like a doberman mix 

 

[cockroach]

Another Dbag with a neck tat and a killing machine for a pet

 

[top dog]

I was driving my son to school the other day and I saw a guy, mid 40s, riding his bicycle.  Looked like the poor sap was heading to work.  In production clothes, just peddling his half awake self.  This pit can running down the side street towards him.  Barking like crazy.  A barrier at the end of parking lot held the dog up for a moment just long enough for the dude on the bike to look over and be like "OH ####!!".  Dog zipped around the barrier and dude put it into high, get me the hell out of here gear on his bike.  Dog in hot pursuit around the corner.  Didn't see if the dog ever caught him or not but I thought.. "Damn.. And I thought I was having a bad morning.."

 

[pollardsvision]

Apparently, pits have been banned in Montreal. All pits in shelters are scheduled to be euthanized on Oct. 3. Residents that own them must register them, pay a $150 fee, and have them sterilized. 

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/montreal-pit-bull-dangerous-dogs-animal-control-bylaw-1.3780335