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Yet another Pitt Bull attack (2 Viewers)

'sublimeone said:
'Harris said:
2/6/13 - 10-year-old attacked by German Shepherds2/11/13 - Derbyshire Police Dog Rampage Hurts Four in Glossop Streets
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I want to like pit bulls... I really do. But just read the reports of the attacks you linked to involving german shepards and compare them to the pit bull attack in Ohio. There's no comparison. It seems like other breeds will bite but pits attack and just won't stop. There's a big difference there.
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They are dogmatic at this point.no pun intended
 
We were debating this very subject at work today. Someone brought up an attack that happened where a young child had wandered away from it's parent(s), crossed the street/road/bike path and an "invisible fence" into the neighbor's yard and was killed by one or more "pit bulls". I caught holy hell for suggested that the dog owners had a responsibility to have their potentially deadly pets in a proper enclosure.It is a fact that pit bulls, rotts, and similar dogs are involved in more fatal maulings than any of the other breeds. Why is it unreasonable to expect these animal's owners to properly control their pets? Granted the parent(s) of this child share a big part of the fault here but kids will get away from you quick. If the dogs had been properly secured this probably doesn't happen (in my opinion).

 
'Charlie Frown said:
We were debating this very subject at work today. Someone brought up an attack that happened where a young child had wandered away from it's parent(s), crossed the street/road/bike path and an "invisible fence" into the neighbor's yard and was killed by one or more "pit bulls". I caught holy hell for suggested that the dog owners had a responsibility to have their potentially deadly pets in a proper enclosure.It is a fact that pit bulls, rotts, and similar dogs are involved in more fatal maulings than any of the other breeds. Why is it unreasonable to expect these animal's owners to properly control their pets? Granted the parent(s) of this child share a big part of the fault here but kids will get away from you quick. If the dogs had been properly secured this probably doesn't happen (in my opinion).
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The dogs were properly secured, the child wasn't.
 
pantherclub said:
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/04/02/3955109/rock-hill-police-shoot-kill-vicious.html

and yet another one

I cannot wait for the people to come and try and defend this
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No one is defending the attacks. I just think they are way overblown by some people (I'm looking at you) as some kind of national threat worthy of hysteria.

For example in the article you posted they reporter never states that the dog actually bit anyone. Think about that. In the time that it took neighbors to recognize a problem, animal control to arrive, then the police to arrive and the dog never actually bit anyone? Sure it would suck to be scared that you might get bitten but ease up on the hysteria.

Are you this hysterical in the gun control thread?

 
Chaka said:
pantherclub said:
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/04/02/3955109/rock-hill-police-shoot-kill-vicious.html

and yet another one

I cannot wait for the people to come and try and defend this
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No one is defending the attacks. I just think they are way overblown by some people (I'm looking at you) as some kind of national threat worthy of hysteria.

For example in the article you posted they reporter never states that the dog actually bit anyone. Think about that. In the time that it took neighbors to recognize a problem, animal control to arrive, then the police to arrive and the dog never actually bit anyone? Sure it would suck to be scared that you might get bitten but ease up on the hysteria.

Are you this hysterical in the gun control thread?
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Is it standard to get permission to pump a couple shots into a dog that isn't being aggressive towards everyone in it's area (causing mass hysteria).

 
Chaka said:
pantherclub said:
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/04/02/3955109/rock-hill-police-shoot-kill-vicious.html

and yet another one

I cannot wait for the people to come and try and defend this
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No one is defending the attacks. I just think they are way overblown by some people (I'm looking at you) as some kind of national threat worthy of hysteria.

For example in the article you posted they reporter never states that the dog actually bit anyone. Think about that. In the time that it took neighbors to recognize a problem, animal control to arrive, then the police to arrive and the dog never actually bit anyone? Sure it would suck to be scared that you might get bitten but ease up on the hysteria.

Are you this hysterical in the gun control thread?
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Yeah, Pit bulls routinely killing babies, old people and everything in between is no big deal. People should just get over it.

 
DrJ said:
Chaka said:
pantherclub said:
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/04/02/3955109/rock-hill-police-shoot-kill-vicious.html

and yet another one

I cannot wait for the people to come and try and defend this
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No one is defending the attacks. I just think they are way overblown by some people (I'm looking at you) as some kind of national threat worthy of hysteria.

For example in the article you posted they reporter never states that the dog actually bit anyone. Think about that. In the time that it took neighbors to recognize a problem, animal control to arrive, then the police to arrive and the dog never actually bit anyone? Sure it would suck to be scared that you might get bitten but ease up on the hysteria.

Are you this hysterical in the gun control thread?
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Is it standard to get permission to pump a couple shots into a dog that isn't being aggressive towards everyone in it's area (causing mass hysteria).
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:rolleyes:

 
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FootballDummy said:
Chaka said:
pantherclub said:
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/04/02/3955109/rock-hill-police-shoot-kill-vicious.html

and yet another one

I cannot wait for the people to come and try and defend this
Click to expand...
No one is defending the attacks. I just think they are way overblown by some people (I'm looking at you) as some kind of national threat worthy of hysteria.

For example in the article you posted they reporter never states that the dog actually bit anyone. Think about that. In the time that it took neighbors to recognize a problem, animal control to arrive, then the police to arrive and the dog never actually bit anyone? Sure it would suck to be scared that you might get bitten but ease up on the hysteria.

Are you this hysterical in the gun control thread?
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Yeah, Pit bulls routinely killing babies, old people and everything in between is no big deal. People should just get over it.
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:rolleyes:

 
Chaka said:
FootballDummy said:
Chaka said:
pantherclub said:
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/04/02/3955109/rock-hill-police-shoot-kill-vicious.html

and yet another one

I cannot wait for the people to come and try and defend this
Click to expand...
No one is defending the attacks. I just think they are way overblown by some people (I'm looking at you) as some kind of national threat worthy of hysteria.

For example in the article you posted they reporter never states that the dog actually bit anyone. Think about that. In the time that it took neighbors to recognize a problem, animal control to arrive, then the police to arrive and the dog never actually bit anyone? Sure it would suck to be scared that you might get bitten but ease up on the hysteria.

Are you this hysterical in the gun control thread?
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Yeah, Pit bulls routinely killing babies, old people and everything in between is no big deal. People should just get over it.
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:rolleyes:
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That's your rebuttal? :lmao: Kill them all, let God sort them out.

 
I was going to link all the human on human murder stories in here, but I think my browser would explode.

Should we kill all of that species as well because of a few million bad apples?

 
gandalas said:
I was going to link all the human on human murder stories in here, but I think my browser would explode.

Should we kill all of that species as well because of a few million bad apples?
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i'm trying to poke a hole in this dizzying logic and i just can't. it's rock solid. well done.

 
Chaka said:
'Charlie Frown said:
We were debating this very subject at work today. Someone brought up an attack that happened where a young child had wandered away from it's parent(s), crossed the street/road/bike path and an "invisible fence" into the neighbor's yard and was killed by one or more "pit bulls". I caught holy hell for suggested that the dog owners had a responsibility to have their potentially deadly pets in a proper enclosure.It is a fact that pit bulls, rotts, and similar dogs are involved in more fatal maulings than any of the other breeds. Why is it unreasonable to expect these animal's owners to properly control their pets? Granted the parent(s) of this child share a big part of the fault here but kids will get away from you quick. If the dogs had been properly secured this probably doesn't happen (in my opinion).
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The dogs were properly secured, the child wasn't.
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Your definition of "properly secured" appears to differ from mine. We aren't talking about a poodle here. Invisible fences fail from the dogs side sometimes, too. What if your neighbor had a mountain lion contained by an "invisible fence."

 
What is it about this subject that makes relatively smart people say really stupid things?! If anything, it's been an entertaining thread, but there's a lot of stupid going on in here.

 
With all of these recent postings portraying pit bulls as loving creatures, I've changed my mind and would like to adopt. Said no one ever.

 
FootballDummy said:
Chaka said:
FootballDummy said:
Chaka said:
pantherclub said:
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/04/02/3955109/rock-hill-police-shoot-kill-vicious.html

and yet another one

I cannot wait for the people to come and try and defend this
Click to expand...
No one is defending the attacks. I just think they are way overblown by some people (I'm looking at you) as some kind of national threat worthy of hysteria.

For example in the article you posted they reporter never states that the dog actually bit anyone. Think about that. In the time that it took neighbors to recognize a problem, animal control to arrive, then the police to arrive and the dog never actually bit anyone? Sure it would suck to be scared that you might get bitten but ease up on the hysteria.

Are you this hysterical in the gun control thread?
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Yeah, Pit bulls routinely killing babies, old people and everything in between is no big deal. People should just get over it.
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:rolleyes:
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That's your rebuttal? :lmao: Kill them all, let God sort them out.
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Make a cogent argument instead of the posting equivalent of the Wilhelm scream and I'll give you a better response.

 
About 19 people a year are killed by alleged pit bull attacks.

About 800 people are accidentally killed by guns (and thousands more due to gun violence) every year.

I point this out because I want to know from the "kill all pit bulls" crowd if their stance is on preventing potentially avoidable deaths and making society safer or merely based upon their own personal fears?

 
Chaka said:
About 19 people a year are killed by alleged pit bull attacks.

About 800 people are accidentally killed by guns (and thousands more due to gun violence) every year.

I point this out because I want to know from the "kill all pit bulls" crowd if their stance is on preventing potentially avoidable deaths and making society safer or merely based upon their own personal fears?
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Oh yeah, well who pulls the trigger? I'll tell you who. Pitbulls.

 
Chaka said:
About 19 people a year are killed by alleged pit bull attacks.

About 800 people are accidentally killed by guns (and thousands more due to gun violence) every year.

I point this out because I want to know from the "kill all pit bulls" crowd if their stance is on preventing potentially avoidable deaths and making society safer or merely based upon their own personal fears?
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I for one have never stated that all pit bulls should be killed. My position has always been about wise choices as a dog owner. Of course not all pits will go off. Perhaps it's even a very small minority of all pits. But- unlike most other dogs- if a pit does attack for whatever reason, the results are far more severe. THAT part of a pit is apparently not always a result of bad "parenting."

I will never own a dog thaat I can't "take." And anyone leaving pit bulls in a yard restrained only by an invisible fence is playing roulette with their neighbors welfare.

IMHO of course...

 
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Chaka said:
About 19 people a year are killed by alleged pit bull attacks.

About 800 people are accidentally killed by guns (and thousands more due to gun violence) every year.

I point this out because I want to know from the "kill all pit bulls" crowd if their stance is on preventing potentially avoidable deaths and making society safer or merely based upon their own personal fears?
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What do you think the benefit is of comparing an inanimate object to a being/creature? Where are they even close to similar enough to be brought up in this discussion?

 
The Commish said:
Chaka said:
About 19 people a year are killed by alleged pit bull attacks.

About 800 people are accidentally killed by guns (and thousands more due to gun violence) every year.

I point this out because I want to know from the "kill all pit bulls" crowd if their stance is on preventing potentially avoidable deaths and making society safer or merely based upon their own personal fears?
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What do you think the benefit is of comparing an inanimate object to a being/creature? Where are they even close to similar enough to be brought up in this discussion?
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New here? ;) We see this as an argument against SS marriage - 1st, we let gays marry and next, we're going to marry our cars!

How are you, btw?

 
3C said:
Best I can do for now. http://www.examiner.com/article/saving-a-pit-bull-named-mani-how-it-forever-changed-two-lives

http://truthaboutpitbulls.blogspot.com/2011/11/licked-to-death-by-pit-bull.html
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sweet Jesus I am in tears

Here’s another way of thinking about it, though: What does it tell you about the pit bull that, in the brutal world of dogfights, the animal is so focused on pleasing its owner that it will readily accept injury, or even death?
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joffer said:
gandalas said:
I was going to link all the human on human murder stories in here, but I think my browser would explode.

Should we kill all of that species as well because of a few million bad apples?
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i'm trying to poke a hole in this dizzying logic and i just can't. it's rock solid. well done.
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Makes about as much sense as killing all pit bulls because of a few bad ones. Percentage of bad humans is likely higher, IMO.

 
Chaka said:
DrJ said:
Chaka said:
pantherclub said:
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/04/02/3955109/rock-hill-police-shoot-kill-vicious.html

and yet another one

I cannot wait for the people to come and try and defend this
Click to expand...
No one is defending the attacks. I just think they are way overblown by some people (I'm looking at you) as some kind of national threat worthy of hysteria.

For example in the article you posted they reporter never states that the dog actually bit anyone. Think about that. In the time that it took neighbors to recognize a problem, animal control to arrive, then the police to arrive and the dog never actually bit anyone? Sure it would suck to be scared that you might get bitten but ease up on the hysteria.

Are you this hysterical in the gun control thread?
Click to expand...
Is it standard to get permission to pump a couple shots into a dog that isn't being aggressive towards everyone in it's area (causing mass hysteria).
Click to expand...
:rolleyes:
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I'll take that as a no.

 
beavers said:
The Commish said:
Chaka said:
About 19 people a year are killed by alleged pit bull attacks.

About 800 people are accidentally killed by guns (and thousands more due to gun violence) every year.

I point this out because I want to know from the "kill all pit bulls" crowd if their stance is on preventing potentially avoidable deaths and making society safer or merely based upon their own personal fears?
Click to expand...
What do you think the benefit is of comparing an inanimate object to a being/creature? Where are they even close to similar enough to be brought up in this discussion?
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New here? ;) We see this as an argument against SS marriage - 1st, we let gays marry and next, we're going to marry our cars!

How are you, btw?
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I'm good....and fwiw....as long as everyone can get the benefits from marrying their cars, I'm ok with it ;)

 
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