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I'm not trying to make light of the situation, but about 10 years ago I was in a league where someone drafted Rodney Culver, who had died the year before in a plane crash.

 
We keep 8 players from year to year and this year one guy kept Randy Mcmicheal and Ben Watson. :useless:

Standard scoring and we start 1 TE.

 
Skinsfansince72 said:
I know I'm playing in a league with guppies when I hear people making negative or rude comments about how other people are drafting(lots of fortune tellers on draft day). It's as if these people can't grasp the idea that somebody else may not agree with the prevailing "wisdom". Of course most of the time it's that they wanted the guy who got picked but they wanted to "Steal" him later in the draft and can't deal with the fact that somedbody else took them sooner than the mob thought they should be taken.As an aside, I'm not a big fan of drafting a starting lineup in order but many people like to do just that. I've not noticed that they do any worse than those who think they are drafting the "best player available". After almost 20 years of doing this I'd say that it doesn't really matter one way or the other. Depends on how well you draft.
absolutely ... every year, without fail, the guy who talks the most $h** always finishes at the bottom. i take some risks in the later rounds and sometimes they pan out and sometimes they dont, but i've never finished worse than 3rd place
 
Skinsfansince72 said:
I know I'm playing in a league with guppies when I hear people making negative or rude comments about how other people are drafting(lots of fortune tellers on draft day). It's as if these people can't grasp the idea that somebody else may not agree with the prevailing "wisdom". Of course most of the time it's that they wanted the guy who got picked but they wanted to "Steal" him later in the draft and can't deal with the fact that somedbody else took them sooner than the mob thought they should be taken.As an aside, I'm not a big fan of drafting a starting lineup in order but many people like to do just that. I've not noticed that they do any worse than those who think they are drafting the "best player available". After almost 20 years of doing this I'd say that it doesn't really matter one way or the other. Depends on how well you draft.
absolutely ... every year, without fail, the guy who talks the most $h** always finishes at the bottom. i take some risks in the later rounds and sometimes they pan out and sometimes they dont, but i've never finished worse than 3rd place
A few years back, when the Saints traded Ricky Williams to the Dolphins, Ricky was a top10 back. A guy in our league drafted Ricky, and someone said, "He is going to be good in Miami!". The guy that just drafted him looks up and says (seriously), "Ricky Williams was traded to the Dolphins? Hmmm, so who is the runningback in New Orleans?"
 
One guy drafted Fred Barnett about a week after Fred broke his leg.

Another guy drafted Larry Centers in the 2nd rd (non-ppr) because of all those receiving yards he got.

Last year, I was asked the question, "Who does he play for?" after drafting Jerious Norwood and Maurice Jones-Drew.

About 10 years ago, an owner protected Andre Rison in a 2-player keeper). Not horrible, but then he proceeded to draft Chris Chandler in the 1st round to lock up that all-important QB-WR combo.

A couple of years ago, another owner drafted Trent Green with the 3rd overall pick in a 2-player keeper.

 
In our live draft 2 years ago, the start of a 12 Team 3 Keeper league, 1 team took P Manning 1.01 (while not horrible, he passed LJ, LT and all RB's until the 4th round). His next bad move was to take Ricky Williams in the 4th round (still in China) followed by Place Kicker M Gramatica in the 6th (does Kick off's only, no FG) and then Denver Def in the 7th, then retired RB Eddie George and Adimchinobe Echemandu (when he was RB#5 in MIN).

He earned alot of trash talk on the message boards/chat room and then earned the 1.01 pick next year too!

 
In our live draft 2 years ago, the start of a 12 Team 3 Keeper league, 1 team took P Manning 1.01 (while not horrible, he passed LJ, LT and all RB's until the 4th round). His next bad move was to take Ricky Williams in the 4th round (still in China) followed by Place Kicker M Gramatica in the 6th (does Kick off's only, no FG) and then Denver Def in the 7th, then retired RB Eddie George and Adimchinobe Echemandu (when he was RB#5 in MIN). He earned alot of trash talk on the message boards/chat room and then earned the 1.01 pick next year too!
:thumbup: Whats the point in playing in leagues like this?
 
SmoovySmoov said:
A friend of mine this offseason drafted Darrent Williams followed by Corey Dillon. I couldn't get to the message board to flame him fast enough.
Darrent Williams was drafted in my league just last night. It was a fun night.
 
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In our live draft 2 years ago, the start of a 12 Team 3 Keeper league, 1 team took P Manning 1.01 (while not horrible, he passed LJ, LT and all RB's until the 4th round). His next bad move was to take Ricky Williams in the 4th round (still in China) followed by Place Kicker M Gramatica in the 6th (does Kick off's only, no FG) and then Denver Def in the 7th, then retired RB Eddie George and Adimchinobe Echemandu (when he was RB#5 in MIN). He earned alot of trash talk on the message boards/chat room and then earned the 1.01 pick next year too!
:thumbup: Whats the point in playing in leagues like this?
It's not always easy to get a local league with a live draft where everyone is equally knowledgeable.
 
We keep 8 players from year to year and this year one guy kept Randy Mcmicheal and Ben Watson. :blackdot: Standard scoring and we start 1 TE.
We have a guy in our league who many years ago took with his first pick in the league - Brent Jones. Took with his second pick in the league - Jay Novacek. He still hears about it every draft day.
 
SmoovySmoov said:
A friend of mine this offseason drafted Darrent Williams followed by Corey Dillon. I couldn't get to the message board to flame him fast enough.
Darrent Williams was drafted in my league just last night. It was a fun night.
Yeah. This thread brought back the memories. I immediately had to send this to my friend:
Hey. Remember that time you drafted a dead guy? Good times. Good times.
 
A guy in my league last year took Marshall Faulk in the 3rd round. I don't think Faulk was working at NFLN yet, but I believe there was already talk of him taking a job there. :football:

 
One guy drafted Fred Barnett about a week after Fred broke his leg.Another guy drafted Larry Centers in the 2nd rd (non-ppr) because of all those receiving yards he got. Last year, I was asked the question, "Who does he play for?" after drafting Jerious Norwood and Maurice Jones-Drew. About 10 years ago, an owner protected Andre Rison in a 2-player keeper). Not horrible, but then he proceeded to draft Chris Chandler in the 1st round to lock up that all-important QB-WR combo.A couple of years ago, another owner drafted Trent Green with the 3rd overall pick in a 2-player keeper.
I'm in a league of 10 where 5-6 love following that pattern. Got Steve Smith, need to draft Jake Delhomme in the 5th round to lock up that QB-WR combo. Just have to shake my head...
 
Year's ago the Viking homer in the league drafted Richie Cunningham in the 7th round because, "The clock was running out, and I couldn't decide, but I knew it would upset (the diehard Cowboy fan) if I took his kicker." In the 8th round the diehard Cowboy fan got revenge and drafted Fuad Raveiz, PK, Minnesota Vikings, Retired.

 
I don't know if this falls into this discussion but let me tip off all you "Would be Comedians". Its not funny to say stuff like:

"Is OJ Simpson available?"

"How many kickers are we allowed to draft?"

In the 6th round: "Is Marvin Harrison still on the board"

Those were hillarious 15 years ago, but they died with Disco.

Leave the comedy to the pro's! :thumbup:

The other thing is if you are the guy who constantly has to complement the guy who just made a pick like:



"Great pick"

"Awesome pick"

Leave it alone. You guys can make out after the draft if you are so wowed by his team!

 
I don't know if this falls into this discussion but let me tip off all you "Would be Comedians". Its not funny to say stuff like:

"Is OJ Simpson available?"

"How many kickers are we allowed to draft?"

In the 6th round: "Is Marvin Harrison still on the board"

Those were hillarious 15 years ago, but they died with Disco.

Leave the comedy to the pro's! :kicksrock:

The other thing is if you are the guy who constantly has to complement the guy who just made a pick like:



"Great pick"

"Awesome pick"

Leave it alone. You guys can make out after the draft if you are so wowed by his team!
You must be fun at parties.
 
i'm in a work league for fun and some cash with a few guppies. One guy took Robbie Gould at 2.1. We tried to not let him do it, but he insisted. :kicksrock:

 
One guy drafted Fred Barnett about a week after Fred broke his leg.Another guy drafted Larry Centers in the 2nd rd (non-ppr) because of all those receiving yards he got. Last year, I was asked the question, "Who does he play for?" after drafting Jerious Norwood and Maurice Jones-Drew. About 10 years ago, an owner protected Andre Rison in a 2-player keeper). Not horrible, but then he proceeded to draft Chris Chandler in the 1st round to lock up that all-important QB-WR combo.A couple of years ago, another owner drafted Trent Green with the 3rd overall pick in a 2-player keeper.
I'm in a league of 10 where 5-6 love following that pattern. Got Steve Smith, need to draft Jake Delhomme in the 5th round to lock up that QB-WR combo. Just have to shake my head...
you guys really don't like the QB-WR combo? I choose to "live by the sword, die by the sword" in that i purposely try to get one good QB-WR combo. Last year I got Holt early and scooped up Bulger a few rounds later. Needless to say, it was a very good year for me ... :thumbup:
 
Saw the great discussion on the guppies vs. sharks article, and I wanted to hear a few more stories.I have a few good ones:I knew I was in a league with guppies when one year, there was a run on Kickers in the 8th round, and on QBs in the 5th round. I think people were filling out their starting lineups in order (RB,RB,WR,WR, QB, TE, K, Def). Last year, in the same keeper league, someone actually kept a kicker instead of Marion Barber or Chester Taylor.Another live draft in another league, 3 people strolled in with magazines at hand, asking for a pen: SI, USA Today, and Sporting News. The magazines did ok in the early rounds, but it was funny seeing them with their magazines, while other guys have draft dominator up and running on their laptops.
Were you one of those guppies?Most sharks or pups (baby shark in training) joined the #1 rated FF site (FBG's) long time ago..you joined 10 days ago! :confused:
If your standards for who knows what about Fantasy Football is the "Joined Date" or been a member since, then your acting like a jerk. The "he's a newb or guppy" are all ignorant low rent terms. Stick with baby shark, that was the most decent thing your said. Dont worry about when somone decided to start smack talking or giving their opoinions on the FBG's Forums, you dont ever know who's who in the forums anyway, and its not very bright to assume FBG membership time is equal to Fantasy Football knowledge. I was visting this site for years before I started giving my two cents in the forums. Some folks dont like to waste their time yappin.
 
last year a guy picked Rob Bironas as the first kicker off the board

what made it even worse was it was about 4 rounds earlier than vinatieri got picked as the second kicker

same league about 10 years earlier, a guy picked shannon sharpe as the first TE off the board in a start-1 TE league in round 4 ...

his pick in round 5 ... Ben Coates, he picked a bench TE about when people were starting to think about picking bench RBs

his pick in round 13 ... Moose Johnston

 
Guy took his first RB in round #8, after he secured a K, a TE and a DEF. This happened this year, he's been in our league seven years.............always last place.

 
Three years ago, a league I was in switched from a draft to an auction with a $100 salary cap (QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, Flex, D, K, 5 Bench). For the most part everyone was paying fair value for their players, then about 20 players in someone nominates Mike Vanderjagt for $1...I hear, "Two dollars"..."Going once, going twice..."..."Ten dollars!" Everyone else was like :shock: Everyone let him hear it. But then about half an hour later someone nominates another kicker for $1..."Two dollars"..."Going once, going twice..."..."Three dollars." It was the same guy that already paid $10 for Vanderjagt! "I need a backup," he says. :)
Are you in my league? Was that guy named Mark?
 
In our first draft in 1995, one guy took tight ends in the 2nd and 3rd round in a league that started one.

 
THIS YEAR in a 10-team keeper league someone kept

Tom Brady

De'shaun Foster

Cadillac Williams

Roy Williams

AND REGGIE WILLIAMS

...and chose NOT to keep LAURENCE MARONEY

 
I really think I have the best guppy story of all time.

It was 2004. I was bored on a Saturday morning, checked the custom leagues that had been made available on yahoo FF.

Saw one that looked ok, and joined. Did the draft about an hour later.

So, 2 minutes before the draft. A guy asks what the "Bye" means by the players name.

While it would seem he was joking...

Steals of said draft (by me)

Wayne in the 13th

Rudi in the 4th

Plax in the 7th

and worst of all... Gates in the 18th.

and why they wanted IDP, I'll never know...

Rodney Harrison in the 11th

Urlacher in the 14th

Bulluck in the 16th

 
I just did a 14-team, 15-round draft with some musician friends of mine, many of whom have never played fantasy football before. I'm generally the only guy in the league who really keeps abreast of NFL news, so I was tweaking some people by informing them about recent injuries to the player they just drafted ("Ooh, you're taking Mark Clayton here? Aren't you concerned about another ankle injury from a player with a history of ankle injuries?" or "You know Mike Bell injured his hip just a couple of quarters after Henry sprained his MCL and isn't guaranteed to be the #2 in Denver, right?", or my personal favorite, "Ummm... Reggie Williams is currently #5 on Jacksonville's depth chart and not guaranteed to make the team..."). By the mid-to-late rounds, people began asking me if their player was injured or relegated to a backup role before drafting. By the very late rounds, they were flat out asking me who to pick.

 
We had a Cal Bear guy draft Marshawn Lynch in the 3rd round.....and then he proceeded to draft every back up RB in the world late in the draft but he did not take Anthony Thomas (so I took him late). Not kidding, this is how his draft went. Mike's old and tired 1. (4) Shaun Alexander 2. (21) Larry Fitzgerald 3. (28) Marshawn Lynch 4. (45) Anquan Boldin 5. (52) Ahman Green 6. (69) Matt Hasselbeck 7. (76) Jamal Lewis 8. (93) Dallas Clark 9. (100) Miami 10. (117) Shayne Graham 11. (124) Chad Pennington 12. (141) Kevin Curtis 13. (148) Ronald Curry 14. (165) Brian Leonard 15. (172) Sammy Morris 16. (189) Adrian Peterson 17. (196) Kevan Barlow
:lmao: Who cares about Anthony Thomas? He has some great backups in Green and Lewis and his late round RBs are better options than Thomas regardless.
Plus he's playing to win not to survive if Lynch goes down. Thomas does not give him an edge but another backup rb might who gains a starting spot might.
 
bentley said:
In our first draft in 1995, one guy took tight ends in the 2nd and 3rd round in a league that started one.
Are you sure it wasn't me when I took R. Dudley and W. Walls in the 3rd and 4th circa that time?Trade bait baby.
 
You know a league is being run by a Guppie when...

Any 16 or 20 team custom Yahoo league with a description that says "Big rosters! For playahs that know their stuff!" and then you look at the settings and they require you start 3 QBs :o

 
In a 2-player keeper league:

1. The owner with the #1 overall pick last year proudly & loudly selecting Dominick Davis with the first pick. This was after his knee problems were widely known and just before he was put on IR.

2. This year, another owner selecting Marion Barber with the 2nd pick in the 1st round (it is not a TD heavy league by any means).

3. This year, an owner trading Stephen Jackson for a 1st round pick (in a two player keeper league). He protects Cedric Benson instead of Jackson and then selects Torry "Bum Knee" Holt with the pick. He essentially traded Stephen Jackson for Bnson & Holt.

 
I really think I have the best guppy story of all time.It was 2004. I was bored on a Saturday morning, checked the custom leagues that had been made available on yahoo FF.Saw one that looked ok, and joined. Did the draft about an hour later.So, 2 minutes before the draft. A guy asks what the "Bye" means by the players name.While it would seem he was joking...Steals of said draft (by me)Wayne in the 13thRudi in the 4thPlax in the 7thand worst of all... Gates in the 18th.and why they wanted IDP, I'll never know...Rodney Harrison in the 11thUrlacher in the 14thBulluck in the 16th
If you didn't win the league, it's not the best story. Did you win?
 
We had a Cal Bear guy draft Marshawn Lynch in the 3rd round.....and then he proceeded to draft every back up RB in the world late in the draft but he did not take Anthony Thomas (so I took him late). Not kidding, this is how his draft went. Mike's old and tired 1. (4) Shaun Alexander 2. (21) Larry Fitzgerald 3. (28) Marshawn Lynch 4. (45) Anquan Boldin 5. (52) Ahman Green 6. (69) Matt Hasselbeck 7. (76) Jamal Lewis 8. (93) Dallas Clark 9. (100) Miami 10. (117) Shayne Graham 11. (124) Chad Pennington 12. (141) Kevin Curtis 13. (148) Ronald Curry 14. (165) Brian Leonard 15. (172) Sammy Morris 16. (189) Adrian Peterson 17. (196) Kevan Barlow
You picked a fine team. Ingenius way of getting accolades and putting it on this board all in one.
 
In all of my 12-team leagues of almost entirely seasoned FF veterans, all of the owners (except me) draft by the stud RB theory. My typical draft over the first few rounds will look something like this:

1. WR Marvin Harrison

2. TE Antonio Gates

3. DT Baltimore

4. RB

5. WR

6. RB

7. QB

Yes, I normally get my 2nd RB near round 6. Yes, I (used to) get laughter EVERY year. And oh, I go to the superbowl a full 50% of the time and obviously win half of those, over nearly a decade of playing. That's roughly 32 leagues over that time.

 
Had a 10 team draft he other night in a pretty big money league where we only start one QB. I'm one of the guys that usually waits for a QB. After 5 rounds, everyone but me and 1 other team had a QB. Round 6 comes and one team drafts their second QB (McNabb and Romo). Before it gets to me in the 6th round the other QB-less team grabs a QB. So after 6 rounds the highest ranked QB's on the board are Hasselbeck, Leinart, and Favre. Round 8 picking in front of me, another team takes QB #2 - Hasselbeck. So after 8 rounds two teams have two QB's and everybody else but me has one. I end up with Leinart and Favre as my QB's.

The guy with McNabb and Romo ends up with LJ, MB III, Mike Bell and Buckhalter for his RB's. :kicksrock:

 
Saw the great discussion on the guppies vs. sharks article, and I wanted to hear a few more stories.I have a few good ones:I knew I was in a league with guppies when one year, there was a run on Kickers in the 8th round, and on QBs in the 5th round. I think people were filling out their starting lineups in order (RB,RB,WR,WR, QB, TE, K, Def). Last year, in the same keeper league, someone actually kept a kicker instead of Marion Barber or Chester Taylor.Another live draft in another league, 3 people strolled in with magazines at hand, asking for a pen: SI, USA Today, and Sporting News. The magazines did ok in the early rounds, but it was funny seeing them with their magazines, while other guys have draft dominator up and running on their laptops.
Were you one of those guppies?Most sharks or pups (baby shark in training) joined the #1 rated FF site (FBG's) long time ago..you joined 10 days ago! :thumbup:
Spoken by a guy who joined last year :yes:
 
Some guy in my slow draft 12-tm league (read: low $$, draft done on message board; this is my #3 league) posts in round five after it was pointed out that he only had 1 RB so far: "I'm gonna take a guy who will get 8-to-10 TDs and who is on none of your radar screens!"

Lo and behold, in the next round, he takes: Tony Hunt. Damn, if you just stated he's not on anyone's radar (and he probably wasn't at this stage), why take him in ROUND SIX?!?

The following round he takes kicker Nate Kaeding and defends it by saying "he outscored many of the players being drafted now!" not realizing it's not about the scoring, but about the availability.

Clearly, this guy does not know the finer points of draft strategy.

 
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Although I really despise the term guppies, I want to share this story.

Everyone has people that bring up players that were already drafted a few times throughout the draft. Well we had one of those guys that would do it 10-12 times a draft. One year we were about ½ complete when he brought up a player that was already drafted yet again. But this time, that player was drafted earlier by him, the guy was already on his roster. :hot:

This person is no longer in our league, but his actions will live on forever.

 
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We have a 12 team redraft fairly normal league starting one QB. The person at the 1.4 spot took Tom Brady (only LT, LJ, and SJax were taken at that point). Then in Round 4 he took another QB. He had 2 qbs on his roster before he had a TE, D/ST, WR2, or RB2. :wub:

From that point on we thanked him for his donation.

 
In my local friendly league the #1 pick showed up hammered and drafted MBIII in round 2, and Chris Henry (TEN) in Round 5 (in front of Ahman Green and Brandon Jacobs)

 
corpcow said:
Saw the great discussion on the guppies vs. sharks article, and I wanted to hear a few more stories.I have a few good ones:I knew I was in a league with guppies when one year, there was a run on Kickers in the 8th round, and on QBs in the 5th round. I think people were filling out their starting lineups in order (RB,RB,WR,WR, QB, TE, K, Def). Last year, in the same keeper league, someone actually kept a kicker instead of Marion Barber or Chester Taylor.Another live draft in another league, 3 people strolled in with magazines at hand, asking for a pen: SI, USA Today, and Sporting News. The magazines did ok in the early rounds, but it was funny seeing them with their magazines, while other guys have draft dominator up and running on their laptops.
Were you one of those guppies?Most sharks or pups (baby shark in training) joined the #1 rated FF site (FBG's) long time ago..you joined 10 days ago! :coffee:
Spoken by a guy who joined last year :lmao:
Agreed. This Fireflies guy is a joke....
 
Reverse Guppy Story:

We were gathering for the initial draft in a dynasty league. Everyone has magazines, laptops, printed articles, cheetsheats, etc. Except one person - he comes in with a few hand written names and numbers on a half sheet of notebook paper and six beers. As the draft unfolds and people start firing out questions or making small talk about what's-his-name or someone asks who is the 3rd QB on the Chiefs and the drafter with the half sheet of paper (after 3 beers) fires out his name like he's on the Chief's coaching staff (occasionally mentioning what college he went to or his age, height, etc.), we all realize he aint no guppy. We come to find out that this is about his 15th draft and his notes were so he wouldn't get mixed up between redraft and dynasty rankings.

Two years later, he has the championship trophy on his fireplace mantle.

The guy with the half sheet was no guppy - he was the shark.

(But, I knew it along, because he's my dad!)

Oh, it's all good - I won the championship in year 1. :mellow:

We're trying to get the trophy named "The DoubleG Trophy" (he and I have the same name - I'm Jr.) - kinda like they named the SuperBowl trophy after the coach who won it the first two times. The other 8 owners aren't nearly as enthralled with this thought, however.

 

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