You will never get these players this cheap again thread (1 Viewer)

[Lash]

thought it'd be neat to see everyone here's thoughts on players who they see as being much lower in value now this offseason than they will be for the next 3-5 fantasy drafts

for Example from last year you would have Gore, Addai, Maroney, MJD, Barber3, VY

Brandon Jacobs - predicting 10+ TDs for 3 or 4 years

ADP - if you are in a combined vet/rook draft, jump in now, as he will be top-ten for awhile

Benson - top ten potential on a run-oriented team

Norwood - although i'm scared of the team situation, hard to ignore 6+ YPC in a fairly decently sized sample size from 2006

LWhite - homer pick, he could bust or he could be first or second rounder for the next few years

Turner - obviously when he gets out from under LT2 shadow

Braylon Edwards - surely he will put it together finally ... won't he?

VJax - although i think he will not burst onto the scene til 2008, it'll be too late by then to get him cheaply

Meachem - there are some players that do 4 good things for every negative thing they do in practice or on film and all anyone wants to talk about on here are the negatives, these are the perfect opportunities for value

VDavis - the hype is real but it has calmed, dive in and grab him now

Quinn - not a huge fan, but he is falling too far

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Nice list.

I'll add some WRs:

Reggie Brown PHI

Craig Davis SDC

Steve Smith NYG

Santonio Holmes PIT

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

Ben Roethlisberger would have been a top 5-7 QB by now if he had played just about anywhere else, so I think the change in coaching regimes ratchets him up a notch.

A little deeper, I'm going to roll the dice with Jason Campbell - completely flying under the radar so far, and played well in limited action last year.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Good call with LenDale White. I see him pretty much the way I did this time last year: a talented but immature player who has the ability to be a darn good power RB. The addition of Chris Henry and the re-signing of Chris Brown have caused many to perceive his value as on a downswing. I disagree; LenDale's fate is still in his own hands. He remains a talented RB with immaturity issues, just as he was prior to the 2006 draft. If he ever "grows up," Brown and Henry aren't going to be factors. His value is low enough that he is easily worth the risk atthis point.

Other RBs I like as buy low guys right now: Clinton Portis, Cadillac Williams, and Kevin Jones. I think that all have fantasy RB1 ability/potential and elite running ability. All can be had for much less than that potential should dictate right now. Obviously Jones' and Williams' value in redraft leagues is a bit more uncertain, but dynasty-wise they are great guys to target right now.

 

[Gottabesweet]

Nice list.

I'll add some WRs:

Reggie Brown PHI

Craig Davis SDC

Steve Smith NYG

Santonio Holmes PIT

I own them - hope your right.

 

[Lott's Fingertip]

A few that could explode or plummet:

Caddy - he either shows top 10 talent and avoids injury, or lives "up" to hsi bust rep

Portis - talked about in the top 5 last year.... now late 2nd rounder. He's only 25....

R.Brown - takes the next step as a 3 down TD machine? Or more of the same?

McGahee - may explode behind a good baltimore OL.... or may just be pretty good.

S.Holmes - not a top 5 WR candidate, but he's in the WR30-40 range now. Very good rookie year + possibility that Pitt opens offense up shows some nice upside.

Hackett, Jennings, Porter, Berrian, B.Marshall - all in a position to succeed.

 

[The Man with the Plan]

You can never say never but I think these guys are being drafted at their lowest in the prime of their career.

Tony Romo

Vince Young

Randy Moss

Clinton Portis

Kevin Jones

Marques Colston

Reggie Brown

 

[DenverBroncos]

Tatum Bell. He will light it up on the turf and either be traded to the Giants, Cleveland or Tennessee next year or he'll be a free agent in 09.

 

[Power Monster]

Some young QBs:

JP- Has some good weapons with Lynch and Evans so he could be in for a solid career. Has good mobility.

Cutler- Big arm, moves well with some nice weapons as well.

Two young gunners that look to be leaders but have to start making better decisions. They both have the potential

 

[Lash]

Ben Roethlisberger would have been a top 5-7 QB by now if he had played just about anywhere else, so I think the change in coaching regimes ratchets him up a notch.A little deeper, I'm going to roll the dice with Jason Campbell - completely flying under the radar so far, and played well in limited action last year.

ahh, Campbell was on my list and i completely left him off when typing the OP ... good callhe just seems to always be poised, never rushed, even when he does tuck it and run

 

[Otis]

Brandon Jones

 

[Sabertooth]

Greg Jennings is a great value right now. I think he could potentially overtake Driver in 08 but he might just fire some shots across the bow this season. He was dynamite before the injury last season but the biggest thing being said last training camp was that he had a veteran's grasp of the game very early on.

Jerricho Cotchery is another guy I really like and why not? He's got talent, an accurate QB, and plays on a team with some potential.

Matt Leinart - I just think he is going to be a really nice player for many years. He's got tremendous weapons around him and what appears to be some really solid coaching. Arizona could be the new Cincy but without the character issues.

 

[PatsFanCT]

Good call with LenDale White. I see him pretty much the way I did this time last year: a talented but immature player who has the ability to be a darn good power RB. The addition of Chris Henry and the re-signing of Chris Brown have caused many to perceive his value as on a downswing. I disagree; LenDale's fate is still in his own hands. He remains a talented RB with immaturity issues, just as he was prior to the 2006 draft. If he ever "grows up," Brown and Henry aren't going to be factors. His value is low enough that he is easily worth the risk atthis point.

Other RBs I like as buy low guys right now: Clinton Portis, Cadillac Williams, and Kevin Jones. I think that all have fantasy RB1 ability/potential and elite running ability. All can be had for much less than that potential should dictate right now. Obviously Jones' and Williams' value in redraft leagues is a bit more uncertain, but dynasty-wise they are great guys to target right now.

I think Cadillac can be the steal of the draft for value. Pound for pound, he's the best third round pick. With Garcia at the helm and a better passing game, I look for Caddy to put up some good RB1 numbers all year.

 

[AtomicDogg97]

What about Kellen Winslow? He is finally healthy and is dominating the Browns training camp. With the eventual addition of Brady Quinn plus a vastly improved o-line, he could blow up and rival Antonio Gates within time. Remember, he led all tight ends in receptions last year and was essentially playing on one leg.

 

[EBF]

Some good candidates:

QB Ben Roethlisberger - I've been hyping him for years, but I think this is the make-or-break season. He has a chance to silence the haters once and for all.

QB Alex Smith - He's basically Philip Rivers with a cheaper price tag.

QB Matt Schaub - Time will tell, but I think he's closer to Hasselbeck than Feeley. Give him 2-3 years and he might be a top 12 guy.

QB Aaron Rodgers - Tick. Tock. Tick. Tock.

RB LenDale White - The time to buy was the end of the 2006 season. Carries some risk, but has the talent to be a Stephen Davis type.

RB Jerious Norwood - I'm not sure if he'll ever be a 250+ carry type in the NFL, but he definitely has talent. At the least, his value should hold steady this season.

RB Marshawn Lynch - Rule #1 in dynasty: Any highly-drafted rookie RB who has a decent season will be considered a top 10-20 player the next year (see: William Green, Michael Bennett, Julius Jones, Kevin Jones, Carnell Williams, Ronnie Brown, Laurence Maroney, Joseph Addai, Reggie Bush, Maurice Drew). Whether or not he ultimately pans out, Lynch's dynasty value should rise 1-2 rounds this year.

RB Kenny Irons - Probably the best buy of any dynasty RB right now. Potential top 15 RB at a discount price.

WR Santonio Holmes - I think he'll become a lower middle class man's Reggie Wayne.

WR Ronald Curry - Probably the best WR in Oakland. Injuries have kept the secret, but he still has time to make an impact.

WR Bernard Berrian - The WR1 in Chicago. Having a good camp. Free agent after this season.

WR Craig Davis - I was initially lukewarm, but I trust AJ Smith.

WR Derek Hagan - Could creep up into the top 30-40 WRs in the next two years.

WR Mike Walker - Doesn't jump out to me in highlights, but I can't ignore the buzz.

WR Laurent Robinson - Could be the WR1 of the future in Atlanta.

TE Heath Miller - Value should hold steady with a chance to increase substantially.

TE Marcedes Lewis - Healthy and starting. Look for a modest value bump.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

What about Kellen Winslow? He is finally healthy and is dominating the Browns training camp. With the eventual addition of Brady Quinn plus a vastly improved o-line, he could blow up and rival Antonio Gates within time. Remember, he led all tight ends in receptions last year and was essentially playing on one leg.

I like KWIII too, but his value isn't low at all in my dynasty/keeper leagues. He is valued exactly where he should be, as a top-5 dynasty TE.

 

[-Crippler-]

Nice list.

I'll add some WRs:

Reggie Brown PHI

Craig Davis SDC

Steve Smith NYG

Santonio Holmes PIT

I own them - hope your right.

thanks for sharing

 

[vandyt]

Tatum Bell. He will light it up on the turf and either be traded to the Giants, Cleveland or Tennessee next year or he'll be a free agent in 09.

If he lights it up, A) why would they trade him given his low salary, and B) why would cold weather/power running teams trade for him?

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Kevin Jones would have been a first round pick if not for his injury. He is going in round 7 and later in dynasty leagues. Now is the time to buy low, especially if he starts on the PUP list. Buy low from the owners who panic.

 

[Routilla]

thought it'd be neat to see everyone here's thoughts on players who they see as being much lower in value now this offseason than they will be for the next 3-5 fantasy drafts

MJD=Barry SandersFred Taylor can not keep him off the field for 2 more years. Next year the cat will be officially out of the bag before you can draft him.

 

[(HULK)]

Ben Roethlisberger would have been a top 5-7 QB by now if he had played just about anywhere else, so I think the change in coaching regimes ratchets him up a notch.A little deeper, I'm going to roll the dice with Jason Campbell - completely flying under the radar so far, and played well in limited action last year.

ahh, Campbell was on my list and i completely left him off when typing the OP ... good callhe just seems to always be poised, never rushed, even when he does tuck it and run

<---Skins homerReports out of camp are that Campbell has mastered the bounce pass. Be advised.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

MJD=Barry SandersFred Taylor can not keep him off the field for 2 more years. Next year the cat will be officially out of the bag before you can draft him.

I dunno if he's Barry Sanders, but I agree that he's a fantastic player. Unfortunately, the cat has been out of the bag on him since midway through last year. In my keeper/dynasty leagues he's untouchable, and I have tried hard to pry him loose.He's going in the 1st in pretty much every dynasty startup I've seen, and in most redrafts also.Saying MJD is value right now is like saying the same about LT, Jackson, or Gore. I think he'll be great, but he ain't "cheap" in any sense of the word.

 

[Mr. Peterson]

thought it'd be neat to see everyone here's thoughts on players who they see as being much lower in value now this offseason than they will be for the next 3-5 fantasy drafts

MJD=Barry SandersFred Taylor can not keep him off the field for 2 more years. Next year the cat will be officially out of the bag before you can draft him.

That's a disgusting terrible comment. You should take it back.

 

[BLOX]

Greg Jennings vote here.

He's going to make Packer fans forget about Walker.

 

[fsufan]

MJD=Barry SandersFred Taylor can not keep him off the field for 2 more years. Next year the cat will be officially out of the bag before you can draft him.

I dunno if he's Barry Sanders, but I agree that he's a fantastic player. Unfortunately, the cat has been out of the bag on him since midway through last year. In my keeper/dynasty leagues he's untouchable, and I have tried hard to pry him loose.He's going in the 1st in pretty much every dynasty startup I've seen, and in most redrafts also.Saying MJD is value right now is like saying the same about LT, Jackson, or Gore. I think he'll be great, but he ain't "cheap" in any sense of the word.

i heard Del Rio on NFL radio today and he said Taylor looks great. I think you guys are overvauling MJD for this year not in the future

 

[crnerblitz]

I'm gonna jump out there with Reggie Bush. I have went from a hater to a L-n-A. I think for dynasty purposes he will be an arguable choice for #1 overall RB in 2008 and beyond.

Not too sure you can buy him low, but his value is going to go much higher.

 

[redman]

Ben Roethlisberger would have been a top 5-7 QB by now if he had played just about anywhere else, so I think the change in coaching regimes ratchets him up a notch.A little deeper, I'm going to roll the dice with Jason Campbell - completely flying under the radar so far, and played well in limited action last year.

ahh, Campbell was on my list and i completely left him off when typing the OP ... good callhe just seems to always be poised, never rushed, even when he does tuck it and run

<---Skins homerReports out of camp are that Campbell has mastered the bounce pass. Be advised.

If you're talking about Brunell4MVP's report, I'm going to wait for a little more substantiation before I start concluding that. Everyone else is saying Campbell looks good and is developing chemistry with his WR's the longer he's out there.

 

[Gr00vus]

Phil Rivers

Brandon Jones

 

[Gr00vus]

TE Marcedes Lewis - Healthy and starting. Look for a modest value bump.

Given how suckotastic their receivers are, I find this guy a very intriguing player. I'm wondering when we'll hear more about him this preseason.

 

[Hawk Fan]

I can't believe no one has written Calvin Johnson yet.

 

[valhallan]

MJD=Barry SandersFred Taylor can not keep him off the field for 2 more years. Next year the cat will be officially out of the bag before you can draft him.

I dunno if he's Barry Sanders, but I agree that he's a fantastic player. Unfortunately, the cat has been out of the bag on him since midway through last year. In my keeper/dynasty leagues he's untouchable, and I have tried hard to pry him loose.He's going in the 1st in pretty much every dynasty startup I've seen, and in most redrafts also.Saying MJD is value right now is like saying the same about LT, Jackson, or Gore. I think he'll be great, but he ain't "cheap" in any sense of the word.

i heard Del Rio on NFL radio today and he said Taylor looks great. I think you guys are overvauling MJD for this year not in the future

I heard that too but it sounded like coachspeak. If MJD continues to be as explosive as he was last year, there's no way they'll keep him off the field.

 

[Routilla]

MJD=Barry SandersFred Taylor can not keep him off the field for 2 more years. Next year the cat will be officially out of the bag before you can draft him.

I dunno if he's Barry Sanders, but I agree that he's a fantastic player. Unfortunately, the cat has been out of the bag on him since midway through last year. In my keeper/dynasty leagues he's untouchable, and I have tried hard to pry him loose.He's going in the 1st in pretty much every dynasty startup I've seen, and in most redrafts also.Saying MJD is value right now is like saying the same about LT, Jackson, or Gore. I think he'll be great, but he ain't "cheap" in any sense of the word.

Wrong. MJD is going around 20th overall. I am saying he is the starter going into '08 if not some time this year. As a starter with JAX and their rushing game/defense I think MJD is a top 5 back in '08. Thus he will not be available at #20 overall in '08.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

MJD=Barry SandersFred Taylor can not keep him off the field for 2 more years. Next year the cat will be officially out of the bag before you can draft him.

I dunno if he's Barry Sanders, but I agree that he's a fantastic player. Unfortunately, the cat has been out of the bag on him since midway through last year. In my keeper/dynasty leagues he's untouchable, and I have tried hard to pry him loose.He's going in the 1st in pretty much every dynasty startup I've seen, and in most redrafts also.Saying MJD is value right now is like saying the same about LT, Jackson, or Gore. I think he'll be great, but he ain't "cheap" in any sense of the word.

Wrong. MJD is going around 20th overall. I am saying he is the starter going into '08 if not some time this year. As a starter with JAX and their rushing game/defense I think MJD is a top 5 back in '08. Thus he will not be available at #20 overall in '08.

Not in any serious dynasty startup draft he isn't. If he is lasting until pick 20, I agree he represents fantastic value.

 

[scott46984]

Here's my top 5 (no particular order):

1) Marshawn Lynch: Top 20 next year in redraft, top 15 or better in subsequent years

2) Ced Benson: Moodiness scares me, but the talent was there at Texas, showed flashes last year

3) Sydney Rice: He'll be WR1 in Minny within 2 years

4) Jay Cutler: Solid fundamentals, great arm, just needs a little more time

5) Greg Jennings: Takes over Driver's role next couple of years, only worry is QB post - Favre

 

[Routilla]

MJD=Barry SandersFred Taylor can not keep him off the field for 2 more years. Next year the cat will be officially out of the bag before you can draft him.

I dunno if he's Barry Sanders, but I agree that he's a fantastic player. Unfortunately, the cat has been out of the bag on him since midway through last year. In my keeper/dynasty leagues he's untouchable, and I have tried hard to pry him loose.He's going in the 1st in pretty much every dynasty startup I've seen, and in most redrafts also.Saying MJD is value right now is like saying the same about LT, Jackson, or Gore. I think he'll be great, but he ain't "cheap" in any sense of the word.

Wrong. MJD is going around 20th overall. I am saying he is the starter going into '08 if not some time this year. As a starter with JAX and their rushing game/defense I think MJD is a top 5 back in '08. Thus he will not be available at #20 overall in '08.

Not in any serious dynasty startup draft he isn't. If he is lasting until pick 20, I agree he represents fantastic value.

I didn't know this was about dynasty. The OP didn't really say. I assumed we were talking re-draft.

 

[Burning Sensation]

QB's

Phillip Rivers

Ben Roethlisberger

J.P. Losman

RB's

Kevin Jones

Caddy Williams

Lendale White

WR's

Mark Clayton(My favorite, top 10 WR in dynasty leagues after the year.

Santonio Holmes

Reggie Brown

Greg Jennings

TE's

Jason Witten

Toney Scheffler

Trade for these guys now in a dynasty league and thank me later!!!!!!!!

 

[ceo3west]

Brandon Jones

 

[pizzatyme]

Colts WR Roy Hall will take over for Marvin in 3 or 4 years. Get him now!

 

[PahtyTom]

VY, AD, Tony Hunt

 

[The Man Who Met Andy Griffith]

QB's

Phillip Rivers

Ben Roethlisberger

J.P. Losman

RB's

Kevin Jones

Caddy Williams

Lendale White

WR's

Mark Clayton(My favorite, top 10 WR in dynasty leagues after the year.

Santonio Holmes

Reggie Brown

Greg Jennings

TE's

Jason Witten

Tony Scheffler

Trade for these guys now in a dynasty league and thank me later!!!!!!!!

I agree with a good number of these (bolded).I think Rivers will have another solid year, but he'll stay as a mid-low QB1.

I think Roethlisberger will have a very good year, and will cement himself as a midrange QB1.

Losman plays for **** Jauron. No thanks.

I like all of your RB picks. It's not so much that I think they will blow up (although any of them could); it's that they're all being drafted as low-end RB2's right now, and I think they'll end up as borderline RB1's.

Clayton and Holmes are the kind of young WR's I like in dynasty--small and fast. Big WR's just seems less predictable for some reason. Note that I like Clayton a good bit more than Holmes, as he seems a lot more polished.

I don't see Jennings improving that much--maybe from low WR2 to high WR2. I do like him at his dynasty ADP, but he's not a screaming deal IMO.

I like Witten and Scheffler, but they're already going as low TE1's; are they really going to improve that much?

 

[Bears_Man2]

Lendale

CJ2

Byron Leftwich

Mike Walker

 

[Kruppe]

Tatum Bell. He will light it up on the turf and either be traded to the Giants, Cleveland or Tennessee next year or he'll be a free agent in 09.

2 things I can almost guarantee will happen that will severely hamper Bell's potential:1. Kevin Jones WILL take playing time from Bell. He will be back from his injury by midseason at the latest, but probably by week 3-4. He is more proven than Bell and knows the offence. There is no way Martz won't play him and a lot.2. TJ Ducket did not get brought in just in case they can trade him for Washington's 1st round pick next year. He is getting good press and it seems likely he will get some goal lines carries. He was a touchdown machine in Atlanta. I think Tatum Bell is doomed to a part time role with limited TD opportunties this year and probably in the future where ever he plays.

 

[Pictus Cat]

Bernard Berrian should be interesting to see how getting bulked up a little and a contract year should affect his performance. It was nice to get him 17.12 in SSL 4 06.

Stovall looks to have potential...

 

[Burning Sensation]

QB's

Phillip Rivers

Ben Roethlisberger

J.P. Losman

RB's

Kevin Jones

Caddy Williams

Lendale White

WR's

Mark Clayton(My favorite, top 10 WR in dynasty leagues after the year.

Santonio Holmes

Reggie Brown

Greg Jennings

TE's

Jason Witten

Tony Scheffler

Trade for these guys now in a dynasty league and thank me later!!!!!!!!

I agree with a good number of these (bolded).I think Rivers will have another solid year, but he'll stay as a mid-low QB1.

I think Roethlisberger will have a very good year, and will cement himself as a midrange QB1.

Losman plays for **** Jauron. No thanks.

I like all of your RB picks. It's not so much that I think they will blow up (although any of them could); it's that they're all being drafted as low-end RB2's right now, and I think they'll end up as borderline RB1's.

Clayton and Holmes are the kind of young WR's I like in dynasty--small and fast. Big WR's just seems less predictable for some reason. Note that I like Clayton a good bit more than Holmes, as he seems a lot more polished.

I don't see Jennings improving that much--maybe from low WR2 to high WR2. I do like him at his dynasty ADP, but he's not a screaming deal IMO.

I like Witten and Scheffler, but they're already going as low TE1's; are they really going to improve that much?

Witten is being drafted as a low TE #1, i think he puts up numbers closer to his 2004, and 2005 seasons. With Romo, he might be able to improve on that, making him a top 3 TE.Scheffler can be had cheap now as most people are afraid of Graham. By week 4 or 5, he will be harder to aquire, and his price tag will be higher.

 

[softball]

Cedric Benson

Gore-he'll take over #1

Tony Hunt

 

[Banger]

QB's

WR's

Mark Clayton(My favorite, top 10 WR in dynasty leagues after the year.

Santonio Holmes

Clayton and Holmes are the kind of young WR's I like in dynasty--small and fast. Big WR's just seems less predictable for some reason. Note that I like Clayton a good bit more than Holmes, as he seems a lot more polished.I don't see Jennings improving that much--maybe from low WR2 to high WR2. I do like him at his dynasty ADP, but he's not a screaming deal IMO.

I like Witten and Scheffler, but they're already going as low TE1's; are they really going to improve that much?

I like Clayton a lot this year. He's really flying under the radar so far this year (WR28). He's a young 3rd year wr with good skills, was a 1st round draft pick and took over the #1 role in Baltimore last year. He doubled his production in his 2nd year (67-939-5) and is having a good camp. The Ravens are also looking for more of a downfield passing attack this year so he and D. Williams should get some homerun opportunities. He's a guy with a good upside who's relatively cheap that I'm targetting in all my drafts.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Gonna add a lil hometown one here (though I have been historically down on him and all falcons WRS) but

Roddy White. Was a first round talent, late developing (and really tough to as inaccurate as vick was with the ball and the play as a rookie) I feel he is getting grouped with all other WR failures, even though vick is now gone. Harrington will more effectively manage the offense and he is the falcons deep speed threat for play action. I think the falcons WR's will put up better numbers than they have in 5 years. reports out of camp are that Roddy has been having great workouts, is catching everything thrown his way, and that Harrington has been poised and effiecient with the passes. I call it the griese (think back to when Griese led Michigan to a title) where he throws accurate balls and the coaches plan the game to his strengths instead whatever the hell my lions do to players.

I also on this list like a lot of others calls. Wish more people put analysis with theirs. Soem are obvious (moss etc) but istead of sayoing I like

moss smith evans and dave

how about a lil reasoning eh?

But great thread though.

 

[FavreCo]

Laurent Robinson all but eliminated Roddy White tonight.

 

[sho nuff]

Javon Walker...good last year...but this is year 2 after the injury...with a 2nd year QB who he may get to play with for a while (until he decides he wants more f'in money). Could challenge to be the top 5 WRs again soon.

 

[Loomba]

Something tells me if you don't get Calvin Johnson on your fantasy team this season, you probably never will.