I hope you are correct about Brown.I don't think you will regret this at all.I have been questioning my decision to take John Brown over D Adams the second after I made the pick. I got Charles Johnson in the next round which has eased my mind some but I have a feeling the Brown decision is going to haunt me all season.
I think Brown's "floor" is somewhere in the WR3 territory. (he was somewhere in the WR40-45 range last season off the top of my head)
Keep in mind that was with some of the worst QB action in the NFL at times.
Its always hard to try and figure how these guys will finish, but I'm pretty confident it will be somewhere in the WR30 range, and thats conservative in my mind.
(every league I play in is a start 3WR, so I am loving him as a WR3)
I believe he has the upside to finish in the WR20 range. Palmer's health is a concern, amongst other things, but from the games I saw over the summer when I rewatched a bunch of the AZ games, it looked like they focused on him heavily at times.
As far as "regrets"............
Obviously its early, but man does Tom Brady look like he may have fooled a bunch of us.
I "backed into owning him" in one particular league, and I am considering myself very fortunate.
I think he will finish better than I anticipated. It will take me 2 more weeks to make me a true believer once again, but I like the start anyway.
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It is too hard to see that you weren't the only one to mention him? You aren't usually one of the Seattle posters that act like a tool, maybe the others have finally rubbed off on you.proninja said:It was only one sentence, was the "in a return yards league" that tough to see the first time?I am not sure I get the regret of passing on a guy like Lockett, he does look to be a good player, don't get me wrong. But looking at Seattle's past two seasons, in 2013 Tate was #20 overall WR in my PPR and Baldwin was #42 and in 2014 Baldwin was #42 as they let their best WR walk. They now have Graham and still have Baldwin and still won't throw that much, just don't get the FF love for Lockett. Unless other players get hurt, he will be unstartable most weeks. Obviously in dynasty his value his definitely higher but until Seattle changes their offense, I personally can't see any WR on that team being that valuable. This isn't any kind a knock on Seattle or Lockett or Wilson, their offense and team isn't designed to win games passing 50 times, they wanna get a lead, play great defense and run the ball down your throat. That hasn't changed as far as I can tell.
Guys who get unstartable points at a skill position when combined with points from return yards turn into top 10 receivers, like Hester was last year.
Exact same in mine. Thought I had a great plan at WR only to see guys like you mentioned snapped a round or two earlier than I thought they'd go.Charles Johnson, Laundry, and John Brown. Went in thinking they all had huge upside and I would have a field day after the top 20 wr's or so were off the board. Instead, guppies in my league apparently valued them as much as me.
Took Jaelen Strong over Lockett.This! I passed on him 3 times but I couldn't pass on Kevin White, DeVante Parker, and Eze Elliot. (Dynasty with option of Taxi Player) All these guys feel to me but I wanted Lockett and would have grabbed him next.Didn't get Tyler Lockett in my dynasty league. I think that's going to haunt me for years.
Well if you can honestly say that comment wasn't sarcastic, then I apologize. I guess I should make an amendment to my original post that excludes return yardage leagues, although in my league which includes return yardage Hester was WR # 70, yours must be more RY heavy.proninja said:I think I saw that he had 350+ return yards in the preseason. With return yards like that, I don't need him to do anything to be a useable flex player in that league. The fact that he's playing without restrictions as a rookie in week 1 and looked like a monster in the preseason is just gravy. Not sure what my reasoning has to do with being a tool, but if you're spoiling for an iFight you're going to have to find it elsewhere. I've given my reasoning, and I don't need you to agree with it.It is too hard to see that you weren't the only one to mention him? You aren't usually one of the Seattle posters that act like a tool, maybe the others have finally rubbed off on you.proninja said:It was only one sentence, was the "in a return yards league" that tough to see the first time?I am not sure I get the regret of passing on a guy like Lockett, he does look to be a good player, don't get me wrong. But looking at Seattle's past two seasons, in 2013 Tate was #20 overall WR in my PPR and Baldwin was #42 and in 2014 Baldwin was #42 as they let their best WR walk. They now have Graham and still have Baldwin and still won't throw that much, just don't get the FF love for Lockett. Unless other players get hurt, he will be unstartable most weeks. Obviously in dynasty his value his definitely higher but until Seattle changes their offense, I personally can't see any WR on that team being that valuable. This isn't any kind a knock on Seattle or Lockett or Wilson, their offense and team isn't designed to win games passing 50 times, they wanna get a lead, play great defense and run the ball down your throat. That hasn't changed as far as I can tell.
Guys who get unstartable points at a skill position when combined with points from return yards turn into top 10 receivers, like Hester was last year.
I don't have a single Seahawk on my fantasy team, if you want to play the enormous homer card. Seahawks in my leagues are usually way overpriced. This was an exception.
you would have started him today?proninja said:Just FYI, Lockett housed his first punt return. I'm not sure about your league, but I get points for TD's. 11 points on that return that I missed out on that I do indeed regret.Well if you can honestly say that comment wasn't sarcastic, then I apologize. I guess I should make an amendment to my original post that excludes return yardage leagues, although in my league which includes return yardage Hester was WR # 70, yours must be more RY heavy.proninja said:I think I saw that he had 350+ return yards in the preseason. With return yards like that, I don't need him to do anything to be a useable flex player in that league. The fact that he's playing without restrictions as a rookie in week 1 and looked like a monster in the preseason is just gravy. Not sure what my reasoning has to do with being a tool, but if you're spoiling for an iFight you're going to have to find it elsewhere. I've given my reasoning, and I don't need you to agree with it.It is too hard to see that you weren't the only one to mention him? You aren't usually one of the Seattle posters that act like a tool, maybe the others have finally rubbed off on you.proninja said:It was only one sentence, was the "in a return yards league" that tough to see the first time?I am not sure I get the regret of passing on a guy like Lockett, he does look to be a good player, don't get me wrong. But looking at Seattle's past two seasons, in 2013 Tate was #20 overall WR in my PPR and Baldwin was #42 and in 2014 Baldwin was #42 as they let their best WR walk. They now have Graham and still have Baldwin and still won't throw that much, just don't get the FF love for Lockett. Unless other players get hurt, he will be unstartable most weeks. Obviously in dynasty his value his definitely higher but until Seattle changes their offense, I personally can't see any WR on that team being that valuable. This isn't any kind a knock on Seattle or Lockett or Wilson, their offense and team isn't designed to win games passing 50 times, they wanna get a lead, play great defense and run the ball down your throat. That hasn't changed as far as I can tell.
Guys who get unstartable points at a skill position when combined with points from return yards turn into top 10 receivers, like Hester was last year.
I don't have a single Seahawk on my fantasy team, if you want to play the enormous homer card. Seahawks in my leagues are usually way overpriced. This was an exception.
Me too.Passing on Forte. He looks great. Bought into the "he's declining" narrative.
Yes still now. Guy has 4 fantasy points combined in my league in 3 weeks. Unless your league gives Return TD points, he is absolutely unrosterable. 1 target this week.... oof.proninja said:How about now?I am not sure I get the regret of passing on a guy like Lockett
I bet you're crushing it and 3-0 then.Biggest regret is putting myself in a position where Cam Newton is actually my starter on one team. The rest of that team is fabulous, but the QB spot is going to kill me.
TZMarkie said:This thread is going to be interesting if people add to it as the year progresses.
Undoubtedly some "regrets" will turn out to be a massive help and save seasons later in the year.
But for right now, my biggest "regret" is probably acquiring Jeremy Hill in the second round of a big $$$ league.
I will likely be 2-0 in that particular league after tomorrow night, but it damn well isn't because of Hill.![]()
I bet he is on the "regret list" of a lot of managers thus far.
(actually, Lamar Miller in 2 leagues may be even worse)
How does one become 2-0 after week 3 ?
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3-0 that is...........TZMarkie said:This thread is going to be interesting if people add to it as the year progresses.
Undoubtedly some "regrets" will turn out to be a massive help and save seasons later in the year.
But for right now, my biggest "regret" is probably acquiring Jeremy Hill in the second round of a big $$$ league.
I will likely be 2-0 in that particular league after tomorrow night, but it damn well isn't because of Hill.![]()
I bet he is on the "regret list" of a lot of managers thus far.
(actually, Lamar Miller in 2 leagues may be even worse)
How does one become 2-0 after week 3 ?
TZM
Drafted Dez in the first. My 9th, 10th and 11th round picks were Fitzgerald, Smith and Boldin. I hated my team coming out of the draft. 3-0.Regret not giving old dudes a look on draft day, like Larry Fitzgerald and Steve Smith Sr.
I mean, Steve even has "senior" in his name, he has no business being a fantasy stud, right?![]()
I'm glad this got bumped...turns out missing out on Johnson was one of the better things to happen to me, thus far...Tried in every league to get Charles Johnson, but he always seemed to go a handful of picks ahead of me. Most regretful for the league I got Wallace in, with Johnson on the board...rushed my pick and tripped over adp on that one.
Me too actually.I'm glad this got bumped...turns out missing out on Johnson was one of the better things to happen to me, thus far...Tried in every league to get Charles Johnson, but he always seemed to go a handful of picks ahead of me. Most regretful for the league I got Wallace in, with Johnson on the board...rushed my pick and tripped over adp on that one.
He's # 40 after 3 weeks and return yards and TDs count. So yeah, still now.proninja said:How about now?I am not sure I get the regret of passing on a guy like Lockett
Yea, without Romo he has a lot of value...capt checkdown has made him, beasley, and witten the guys to own on dallas O......speaking of which, I regret spending a good chunk of my waiver money on Williams(10 teamer, short bench)...seemed like a great p/u wen Dez went down....now he's prolly worthless unless he gets a slant an YAC.Released Lance Dunbar the night before opening day. In a ppr. Figured the signing of Michael spelled the end for him. Slapping myself.
If it's a dynasty then don't sweat it... but the bolded made me chuckle for real.Not doing my homework on Gordon. Didn't know until after draft that the 1st round drafted rb would have to split time with a midget in sd
He's Number 8 WR in my league with Return Yards counting for a lot. I'm happy I have him in Dynasty.The Claymaker said:He's # 40 after 3 weeks and return yards and TDs count. So yeah, still now.proninja said:How about now?I am not sure I get the regret of passing on a guy like Lockett
But many don't, so I don't think rubbing it in about missing him is a big deal. Also, teams are going to stop kicking to him, and he can't possibly keep up this rate of return tds. I've played in return td leagues and never would start a guy ONLY hoping he returns one all the way. He has been an absolute disaster in regular points and has completely failed to live up to his preseason hype in terms of being a WR.proninja said:Right, and some of us play in those leagues and he's wr9 tied with Hopkins, Jones, and Marshall. You can see how some of us would regret having him go before where we thought we could steal him, I would assume?Yes still now. Guy has 4 fantasy points combined in my league in 3 weeks. Unless your league gives Return TD points, he is absolutely unrosterable. 1 target this week.... oof.proninja said:How about now?I am not sure I get the regret of passing on a guy like Lockett
hoping this was dynasty.proninja said:Waiving James Jones for Christine Michael a couple days before the season is weighing on me currently
Claymaker doesn't play in a league like this. You made the jab at him like maybe he should regret it now. Well he doesn't regret it now. Seems like YOUR issue is that you don't understand that people play in leagues without this rule.proninja said:So your fundamental issue is that you don't understand people play in leagues with different scoring than yours. Got it. I won't bug you about it again.The Claymaker said:He's # 40 after 3 weeks and return yards and TDs count. So yeah, still now.proninja said:How about now?I am not sure I get the regret of passing on a guy like Lockett
Wow man get off your homerism and let it go. First, I wasn't the only one to say something about him and second and most importantly and the thing you continue to overlook, I WAS NOT EVER TALKING TO YOU! I apologize to everyone else reading this, but this person, obviously thinks my post are about him (Sung in my best Carly Simon voice) as I said in my very first response to you, other people who didn't bother to mention they were in return heavy leagues also said they regretted not taking him. He, just like all your wr'ers suck in normal leagues, because your offense is not built to make them a big part on a consistent basis. Hell, you have taken one of the best FF te's and possibly messed him up as well. Please let this go, I thought you didn't want an "Ifight" but you keep on bringing it up. I promise I won't try to force my opinions on you and please give me the same respect. Thank youproninja said:So your fundamental issue is that you don't understand people play in leagues with different scoring than yours. Got it. I won't bug you about it again.The Claymaker said:He's # 40 after 3 weeks and return yards and TDs count. So yeah, still now.proninja said:How about now?I am not sure I get the regret of passing on a guy like Lockett