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Your Preseason Fantasy Regret -2015- (1 Viewer)

drafted Gordon over Forsett. may be the worst pick i've ever made. i expect it to backfire enormously.

 
I have been questioning my decision to take John Brown over D Adams the second after I made the pick. I got Charles Johnson in the next round which has eased my mind some but I have a feeling the Brown decision is going to haunt me all season.
I don't think you will regret this at all.

I think Brown's "floor" is somewhere in the WR3 territory. (he was somewhere in the WR40-45 range last season off the top of my head)

Keep in mind that was with some of the worst QB action in the NFL at times.

Its always hard to try and figure how these guys will finish, but I'm pretty confident it will be somewhere in the WR30 range, and thats conservative in my mind.

(every league I play in is a start 3WR, so I am loving him as a WR3)

I believe he has the upside to finish in the WR20 range. Palmer's health is a concern, amongst other things, but from the games I saw over the summer when I rewatched a bunch of the AZ games, it looked like they focused on him heavily at times.

As far as "regrets"............

Obviously its early, but man does Tom Brady look like he may have fooled a bunch of us.

I "backed into owning him" in one particular league, and I am considering myself very fortunate.

I think he will finish better than I anticipated. It will take me 2 more weeks to make me a true believer once again, but I like the start anyway.

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TZM
I hope you are correct about Brown.

Brady is off to a killer start. We all should know never to doubt him.

 
I am not sure I get the regret of passing on a guy like Lockett, he does look to be a good player, don't get me wrong. But looking at Seattle's past two seasons, in 2013 Tate was #20 overall WR in my PPR and Baldwin was #42 and in 2014 Baldwin was #42 as they let their best WR walk. They now have Graham and still have Baldwin and still won't throw that much, just don't get the FF love for Lockett. Unless other players get hurt, he will be unstartable most weeks. Obviously in dynasty his value his definitely higher but until Seattle changes their offense, I personally can't see any WR on that team being that valuable. This isn't any kind a knock on Seattle or Lockett or Wilson, their offense and team isn't designed to win games passing 50 times, they wanna get a lead, play great defense and run the ball down your throat. That hasn't changed as far as I can tell.

 
proninja said:
I am not sure I get the regret of passing on a guy like Lockett, he does look to be a good player, don't get me wrong. But looking at Seattle's past two seasons, in 2013 Tate was #20 overall WR in my PPR and Baldwin was #42 and in 2014 Baldwin was #42 as they let their best WR walk. They now have Graham and still have Baldwin and still won't throw that much, just don't get the FF love for Lockett. Unless other players get hurt, he will be unstartable most weeks. Obviously in dynasty his value his definitely higher but until Seattle changes their offense, I personally can't see any WR on that team being that valuable. This isn't any kind a knock on Seattle or Lockett or Wilson, their offense and team isn't designed to win games passing 50 times, they wanna get a lead, play great defense and run the ball down your throat. That hasn't changed as far as I can tell.
It was only one sentence, was the "in a return yards league" that tough to see the first time?

Guys who get unstartable points at a skill position when combined with points from return yards turn into top 10 receivers, like Hester was last year.
It is too hard to see that you weren't the only one to mention him? You aren't usually one of the Seattle posters that act like a tool, maybe the others have finally rubbed off on you.

 
Charles Johnson, Laundry, and John Brown. Went in thinking they all had huge upside and I would have a field day after the top 20 wr's or so were off the board. Instead, guppies in my league apparently valued them as much as me.
Exact same in mine. Thought I had a great plan at WR only to see guys like you mentioned snapped a round or two earlier than I thought they'd go.

 
Didn't get Tyler Lockett in my dynasty league. I think that's going to haunt me for years.
This! I passed on him 3 times but I couldn't pass on Kevin White, DeVante Parker, and Eze Elliot. (Dynasty with option of Taxi Player) All these guys feel to me but I wanted Lockett and would have grabbed him next.
Took Jaelen Strong over Lockett.

### ####it!

 
Regret trading LMurray instead of TMason before the NFL draft. Thought the Raiders would pick a RB and then the Rams drafted Gurley...

 
Keeping Nelson, Benjamin and Foster...it's a miracle I was able to salvage a team after that mistake.

It's bad to have your keepers announced before the preseason.

 
proninja said:
proninja said:
I am not sure I get the regret of passing on a guy like Lockett, he does look to be a good player, don't get me wrong. But looking at Seattle's past two seasons, in 2013 Tate was #20 overall WR in my PPR and Baldwin was #42 and in 2014 Baldwin was #42 as they let their best WR walk. They now have Graham and still have Baldwin and still won't throw that much, just don't get the FF love for Lockett. Unless other players get hurt, he will be unstartable most weeks. Obviously in dynasty his value his definitely higher but until Seattle changes their offense, I personally can't see any WR on that team being that valuable. This isn't any kind a knock on Seattle or Lockett or Wilson, their offense and team isn't designed to win games passing 50 times, they wanna get a lead, play great defense and run the ball down your throat. That hasn't changed as far as I can tell.
It was only one sentence, was the "in a return yards league" that tough to see the first time?

Guys who get unstartable points at a skill position when combined with points from return yards turn into top 10 receivers, like Hester was last year.
It is too hard to see that you weren't the only one to mention him? You aren't usually one of the Seattle posters that act like a tool, maybe the others have finally rubbed off on you.
I think I saw that he had 350+ return yards in the preseason. With return yards like that, I don't need him to do anything to be a useable flex player in that league. The fact that he's playing without restrictions as a rookie in week 1 and looked like a monster in the preseason is just gravy. Not sure what my reasoning has to do with being a tool, but if you're spoiling for an iFight you're going to have to find it elsewhere. I've given my reasoning, and I don't need you to agree with it.

I don't have a single Seahawk on my fantasy team, if you want to play the enormous homer card. Seahawks in my leagues are usually way overpriced. This was an exception.
Well if you can honestly say that comment wasn't sarcastic, then I apologize. I guess I should make an amendment to my original post that excludes return yardage leagues, although in my league which includes return yardage Hester was WR # 70, yours must be more RY heavy.
 
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In my auction I got away from my strategy and paid 10 for Romo and 14 for Kelce. Was targeting and should have gotten Bradford for $5 and Eifert for $4 and had and extra $15 bucks to get guys like Agholor and Gio who went for little more than a song.

 
My biggest is taking Peyton in round 1 in my 2qb league. The bad press is deafening and I just looked at season totals instead of game logs. Could have nabbed Brees or Roeth.

 
proninja said:
proninja said:
proninja said:
I am not sure I get the regret of passing on a guy like Lockett, he does look to be a good player, don't get me wrong. But looking at Seattle's past two seasons, in 2013 Tate was #20 overall WR in my PPR and Baldwin was #42 and in 2014 Baldwin was #42 as they let their best WR walk. They now have Graham and still have Baldwin and still won't throw that much, just don't get the FF love for Lockett. Unless other players get hurt, he will be unstartable most weeks. Obviously in dynasty his value his definitely higher but until Seattle changes their offense, I personally can't see any WR on that team being that valuable. This isn't any kind a knock on Seattle or Lockett or Wilson, their offense and team isn't designed to win games passing 50 times, they wanna get a lead, play great defense and run the ball down your throat. That hasn't changed as far as I can tell.
It was only one sentence, was the "in a return yards league" that tough to see the first time?

Guys who get unstartable points at a skill position when combined with points from return yards turn into top 10 receivers, like Hester was last year.
It is too hard to see that you weren't the only one to mention him? You aren't usually one of the Seattle posters that act like a tool, maybe the others have finally rubbed off on you.
I think I saw that he had 350+ return yards in the preseason. With return yards like that, I don't need him to do anything to be a useable flex player in that league. The fact that he's playing without restrictions as a rookie in week 1 and looked like a monster in the preseason is just gravy. Not sure what my reasoning has to do with being a tool, but if you're spoiling for an iFight you're going to have to find it elsewhere. I've given my reasoning, and I don't need you to agree with it.

I don't have a single Seahawk on my fantasy team, if you want to play the enormous homer card. Seahawks in my leagues are usually way overpriced. This was an exception.
Well if you can honestly say that comment wasn't sarcastic, then I apologize. I guess I should make an amendment to my original post that excludes return yardage leagues, although in my league which includes return yardage Hester was WR # 70, yours must be more RY heavy.
Just FYI, Lockett housed his first punt return. I'm not sure about your league, but I get points for TD's. 11 points on that return that I missed out on that I do indeed regret.
you would have started him today?

 
Biggest regret is putting myself in a position where Cam Newton is actually my starter on one team. The rest of that team is fabulous, but the QB spot is going to kill me.

 
This thread is going to be interesting if people add to it as the year progresses.

Undoubtedly some "regrets" will turn out to be a massive help and save seasons later in the year.

But for right now, my biggest "regret" is probably acquiring Jeremy Hill in the second round of a big $$$ league.

I will likely be 3-0 in that particular league after tomorrow night, but it damn well isn't because of Hill. :no:

I bet he is on the "regret list" of a lot of managers thus far.

(actually, Lamar Miller in 2 leagues may be even worse)

TZM

 
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TZMarkie said:
This thread is going to be interesting if people add to it as the year progresses.

Undoubtedly some "regrets" will turn out to be a massive help and save seasons later in the year.

But for right now, my biggest "regret" is probably acquiring Jeremy Hill in the second round of a big $$$ league.

I will likely be 2-0 in that particular league after tomorrow night, but it damn well isn't because of Hill. :no:

I bet he is on the "regret list" of a lot of managers thus far.

(actually, Lamar Miller in 2 leagues may be even worse)

How does one become 2-0 after week 3 ?

TZM
 
TZMarkie said:
This thread is going to be interesting if people add to it as the year progresses.

Undoubtedly some "regrets" will turn out to be a massive help and save seasons later in the year.

But for right now, my biggest "regret" is probably acquiring Jeremy Hill in the second round of a big $$$ league.

I will likely be 2-0 in that particular league after tomorrow night, but it damn well isn't because of Hill. :no:

I bet he is on the "regret list" of a lot of managers thus far.

(actually, Lamar Miller in 2 leagues may be even worse)

How does one become 2-0 after week 3 ?

TZM
3-0 that is........... :D

Been up all night, and unfortunately my typing suffers a bit.

Just like Lamar Miller has on 2 of my teams.

TZM

 
Regret not giving old dudes a look on draft day, like Larry Fitzgerald and Steve Smith Sr.

I mean, Steve even has "senior" in his name, he has no business being a fantasy stud, right? :)

 
Regret not giving old dudes a look on draft day, like Larry Fitzgerald and Steve Smith Sr.

I mean, Steve even has "senior" in his name, he has no business being a fantasy stud, right? :)
Drafted Dez in the first. My 9th, 10th and 11th round picks were Fitzgerald, Smith and Boldin. I hated my team coming out of the draft. 3-0. :shrug:

 
Tried in every league to get Charles Johnson, but he always seemed to go a handful of picks ahead of me. Most regretful for the league I got Wallace in, with Johnson on the board...rushed my pick and tripped over adp on that one.
I'm glad this got bumped...turns out missing out on Johnson was one of the better things to happen to me, thus far...

 
Tried in every league to get Charles Johnson, but he always seemed to go a handful of picks ahead of me. Most regretful for the league I got Wallace in, with Johnson on the board...rushed my pick and tripped over adp on that one.
I'm glad this got bumped...turns out missing out on Johnson was one of the better things to happen to me, thus far...
Me too actually.

I don't know exactly how much we can learn from this thread, but I am betting there will be one good reminder by the end of the year.

That is - We drafted studs for a reason. Often slow starts are just something we just have to deal with.

I'm sure there will be a few of these guys that will help many of us win championships, that we are very "down" on at this point.

Personally, I have interest in Jeremy Hill rebounding. (and Lamar Miller ugh)

But there are a ton that we could list here at this point.

I had hope for someone on the Vikings passing attack to be start worthy (even though I didn't draft any) but its looking like AP may be a bigger impact than we thought, essentially rendering Charles Johnson and Mike Wallace useless at this point.

TZM

 
My first picks were A.Brown, Dez, Miller, Cooks, Randle and somehow I'm 2-1. Getting Woodhead in the 12th (ppr) has helped, along with snagging Moncrief and Eifert right when they started to hit

 
Taking Andre Johnson. Did get moncrief and dorsett as well but Andre is done. Guy gets no separation whatsoever. Looks like he's carrying a 200 pound bag on his back coming out of his breaks. They'd have been better off bringing back Wayne or nicks. At least they have year(s) in the offense on their side. Andre is 34 year old system rookie with nothing left.

 
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Released Lance Dunbar the night before opening day. In a ppr. Figured the signing of Michael spelled the end for him. Slapping myself.

 
Not doing my homework on Gordon. Didn't know until after draft that the 1st round drafted rb would have to split time with a midget in sd

 
I took Julio in one redraft, and was going to another....took Dez instead. In the Dez league o also have demarco, romo, and brees.......wah wah

 
Released Lance Dunbar the night before opening day. In a ppr. Figured the signing of Michael spelled the end for him. Slapping myself.
Yea, without Romo he has a lot of value...capt checkdown has made him, beasley, and witten the guys to own on dallas O......speaking of which, I regret spending a good chunk of my waiver money on Williams(10 teamer, short bench)...seemed like a great p/u wen Dez went down....now he's prolly worthless unless he gets a slant an YAC.

 
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The Claymaker said:
proninja said:
I am not sure I get the regret of passing on a guy like Lockett
How about now?
He's # 40 after 3 weeks and return yards and TDs count. So yeah, still now.
He's Number 8 WR in my league with Return Yards counting for a lot. I'm happy I have him in Dynasty.

My biggest regret is not saving Moncrief in Dynasty. My league makes us cut 5 out players from our roster and we do a combined rookie/cut players draft. I did nab Dorsett though...

 
proninja said:
proninja said:
I am not sure I get the regret of passing on a guy like Lockett
How about now?
Yes still now. Guy has 4 fantasy points combined in my league in 3 weeks. Unless your league gives Return TD points, he is absolutely unrosterable. 1 target this week.... oof.
Right, and some of us play in those leagues and he's wr9 tied with Hopkins, Jones, and Marshall. You can see how some of us would regret having him go before where we thought we could steal him, I would assume?
But many don't, so I don't think rubbing it in about missing him is a big deal. Also, teams are going to stop kicking to him, and he can't possibly keep up this rate of return tds. I've played in return td leagues and never would start a guy ONLY hoping he returns one all the way. He has been an absolute disaster in regular points and has completely failed to live up to his preseason hype in terms of being a WR.

 
proninja said:
The Claymaker said:
proninja said:
I am not sure I get the regret of passing on a guy like Lockett
How about now?
He's # 40 after 3 weeks and return yards and TDs count. So yeah, still now.
So your fundamental issue is that you don't understand people play in leagues with different scoring than yours. Got it. I won't bug you about it again.
Claymaker doesn't play in a league like this. You made the jab at him like maybe he should regret it now. Well he doesn't regret it now. Seems like YOUR issue is that you don't understand that people play in leagues without this rule.

 
proninja said:
The Claymaker said:
proninja said:
I am not sure I get the regret of passing on a guy like Lockett
How about now?
He's # 40 after 3 weeks and return yards and TDs count. So yeah, still now.
So your fundamental issue is that you don't understand people play in leagues with different scoring than yours. Got it. I won't bug you about it again.
Wow man get off your homerism and let it go. First, I wasn't the only one to say something about him and second and most importantly and the thing you continue to overlook, I WAS NOT EVER TALKING TO YOU! I apologize to everyone else reading this, but this person, obviously thinks my post are about him (Sung in my best Carly Simon voice) as I said in my very first response to you, other people who didn't bother to mention they were in return heavy leagues also said they regretted not taking him. He, just like all your wr'ers suck in normal leagues, because your offense is not built to make them a big part on a consistent basis. Hell, you have taken one of the best FF te's and possibly messed him up as well. Please let this go, I thought you didn't want an "Ifight" but you keep on bringing it up. I promise I won't try to force my opinions on you and please give me the same respect. Thank you

 
Regrets and Relief.....

REGRET

Taking Forsett over ODB and AJGreen in the 2nd round (after Lacy in the first).

If I go ODB or Green in the 2nd....I don't take Brandin Cooks in the third.

Even with taking Forsett....I passed on Randall Cobb for Cooks in the third.

RELIEF

If I didn't go Cooks in the third...I KNOW I would have went Bradford in the third. Instead I take Cooks and get Brady in the fourth.

 
Before the Brady suspension was overturned I decided to draft Romo. Planned on picking Brady as my #2 when the draft swung around. He was picked 2 spots before me. #### me.

 
So I figured it was time to look back and see how my "regrets" were working out.

Upon going over the other's posts and guys they "regretted" not getting or acquiring, there have been a few surprises.

Personally-

Brandin Cooks - I'm relieved now I didn't get this guy. :yes:

The guy looked so good last year at times, and I sort of had a sick feeling after all my drafts that I didn't get any shares of the guy anywhere.

It looks like Brees injury may not have helped him, but it doesn't look like he is a huge part of the offense as I might have expected.

Mark Ingram - On the Saints note, I am now wishing I had gotten Ingram. I got him everywhere last year, and he looked damn good to start the season. Why I didn't buy in again, knowing the Saints were going to try and run............well, I REGRET it now. LOL.

Dez Bryant - I don't count this one as much as the others, injury has crushed him. How would he have done had he not been injured??? Hard to say, but its a situation I am now glad I avoided. Dez's return certainly is not a given (no matter what Jerry Jones tends to believe) so this is another scenario I am glad I missed out on.

Jordan Matthews - This guy has apparently forgotten how to catch the last few weeks. In fact, the whole offense looked off for a couple weeks.

The way they appear to spread the ball around, I am not sure he can put up the numbers I had anticipated, as he just isn't getting the targets like a few of the high end guys.

I thought he had the makings of a low end WR1 going into the season, and it looks more like a low end WR2 at best, at least at this point.

Amari Cooper - He has actually done slightly better than I had anticipated. I thought the Raiders offense wouldn't be that great, but he has been getting a healthy amount of targets, barring this past week. (where he was still a respectable 4 for 4 vs. a brutal Denver defense)

I am still wishing I had gotten this guy somewhere. He may very well be gold down the stretch late season, but another game vs. the nightmare Denver defense in week 14 would be scary if I was an owner.

Jeremy Hill - What a bad scenario. I'm regretting the only time I pulled the trigger on an early supposed "top end" RB in any draft preseason.

We can hope for better days, but if you are an owner, its been brutal. A couple down weeks, you bench him then he gets 3 TD's, then you put him back in and another egg.

Awful.

It will be interesting to revisit this thread in 3-4 more weeks and see how things have changed.

TZM

 
Not drafting Larry Fitz or Deandre Hopkins. Could have had both.

Was about to draft Fitz and I didn't and for whatever dumb reason, Hopkins was on my do not draft list.. Needless to say, drafting from the 11 spot (of 12) and going Forte and Gronk, I am super weak at WR

 
Regrets

B. Cooks, J. Matthews, J. Hill, A. Abdullah across a few different leagues(sans j.hill whom I paired with e. Lacy in one and at the time felt great)

Also this far L. Miller.

 
Good stuff guys.

One that I didn't mention, was TOM BRADY.

I was not overly enthused when I "backed into drafting him" in one league, instead I was targeting Matt Ryan there.

I remember leaving the draft and saying "man I HATE this team", because of Alfred Morris, Brady and a few other running back picks that I wasn't stoked with.

Brady has been a great surprise, and has cured a few minor ills on that team, and I'm betting it doesn't stop.

They really look to be in full fledged 2007 mode and it certainly shouldn't stop this weekend vs INDY.

ALFRED MORRIS - He is another that I'm sure has hit on many of you guys regret list.

And to above poster LOIPZ.... Don't give up on LAMAR MILLER .

Recent news coming from Miami and some better matchups from here on should make him relevant again.

I don't know exactly how strong he will be, but I am betting on some decent RB2 numbers.

Just picked him up in trade in one league, I can't see where his value would ever get lower and I acted.

He may not be a RB1 stud, but I think he will help a lot of teams with serviceable numbers.

Getting dependable RB2 numbers out of him, would be a big help considering how much of a wasteland RBs are in general so far this year.

I have tried unsuccessfully to acquire Ameer Abdullah on the cheap, in one league in particular.

His numbers are bound to improve too.

TZM

 
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