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Your view of the political leanings of the PSF (1 Viewer)

% of PSF members that are right wing radicals

  • 0%

    Votes: 14 10.7%

  • 10%

    Votes: 70 53.4%

  • 20%

    Votes: 32 24.4%

  • 30%

    Votes: 9 6.9%

  • 40%

    Votes: 4 3.1%

  • 50%

    Votes: 1 0.8%

  • 60%

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • 70%

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • 80%

    Votes: 1 0.8%

  • 90%

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • 100%

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    131
Captain Cranks

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We've done a variation of this before, but it's time for an update. This is the first poll in a two-poll series where we will compare how we view the board vs how we view ourselves, collectively speaking. 

 
<10%

a bit more than 20%

about 50%  - Most of this are those that claim to be fiscal conservatives, social liberal.  If we accept that people vote with their pocket book then the fiscal part puts them here.

20%  - Though this could be double counting the same banned aliased over and over

 
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I don't really know what left-wing and right-wing radicals are, but I voted 20-40-20-20.  

I figure about 20% of the forum is pro-socialism and/or woke, and I tossed those people into the leftmost category.  About 40% or so would like to vote for a centrist or center-left Democratic candidate, and about 20% would like to vote for a center-right Republican.  It feels like the forum is about 20% MAGA but that's really hard to tell sometimes.  I put MAGA in the right-most category.

It would be better to come up with something more objective than "radical" and "moderate," because everybody thinks of themselves at moderate and those wicked people in out-group as radicals.  

 
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10/40/40/10

I think the numbers are closer to 1/49/49/1 but that wasn't really an option.

I think the problem has always been that since the PSF was formed, Trump has been around.  Almost every moderate liberal is anti-Trump and a decent % of the moderate conservatives are anti-Trump so it seems like we are way more liberal than we really are. 

Personally, I appreciate that cooperation between the sides.  I was going to compare it to something that happened on The Boys but don't want to spoil anything for anyone.  If you know, you know.

 
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IvanKaramazov said:
I don't really know what left-wing and right-wing radicals are, but I voted 20-40-20-20.  

I figure about 20% of the forum is pro-socialism and/or woke, and I tossed those people into the leftmost category.  About 40% or so would like to vote for a centrist or center-left Democratic candidate, and about 20% would like to vote for a center-right Republican.  It feels like the forum is about 20% MAGA but that's really hard to tell sometimes.  I put MAGA in the right-most category.

It would be better to come up with something more objective than "radical" and "moderate," because everybody thinks of themselves at moderate and those wicked people in out-group as radicals.  
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I'm with you, but I went 30% radical/70% moderate.  Conservative 10% radical/90% moderate.

Like you, I consider anyone who supports (silently or vocally), sympathizes, promotes or engages in "woke" culture and/or Socialism to be left-wing radicals.

I think there are only about 10% MAGA types in here at most.

 
JIslander said:
I went 10/50/30/10
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Similar. I went with

0/60/30/10

That 0 is due to rounding but I think the percentage of "left wing radicals" is less than 5%...so 0 is closer than 10.

Similarly for "right wing radicals". Probably less than 10% of people here, but they post a lot.

 
VandyMan said:
Similar. I went with

0/60/30/10

That 0 is due to rounding but I think the percentage of "left wing radicals" is less than 5%...so 0 is closer than 10.

Similarly for "right wing radicals". Probably less than 10% of people here, but they post a lot.
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I kinda thought that way too -- 

 
I went with 10/40/20/10.  Moderate liberals seem to double moderate conservatives and 20% of people likely fall outside these 4 groups.

 
10/50/40/0

When I think of "right wing radicals", I think of actual neo-nazis, proud, genuine outward racists, you know....the worst of the worst.

I don't truly think we don't have any of those types of people posting here.

 
ShamrockPride said:
10/50/40/0

When I think of "right wing radicals", I think of actual neo-nazis, proud, genuine outward racists, you know....the worst of the worst.

I don't truly think we don't have any of those types of people posting here.
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Agreed. I haven't seen that here and don't want to. But with only 4 options those aren't the ONLY people who would fall into the rightmost group.

 
I'm a little surprised at people who thing the board is 40% (or more) conservative. My theory is that A) everyone is using their own definitions and B) there are a lot of left leaning people who consider themselves centrists.

 
ShamrockPride said:
10/50/40/0

When I think of "right wing radicals", I think of actual neo-nazis, proud, genuine outward racists, you know....the worst of the worst.

I don't truly think we don't have any of those types of people posting here.
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I was just thinking about how I (and other people here) would define right wing radicals. This is an interesting comment because I would certainly agree that those would be considered right wing radicals. But does that mean that you consider 10% of the people here to be the equivalent of left wing Nazis and racists, the worst of the worst? Is being woke considered the same thing as being a proud racist?

 
tymarsas said:
I was just thinking about how I (and other people here) would define right wing radicals. This is an interesting comment because I would certainly agree that those would be considered right wing radicals. But does that mean that you consider 10% of the people here to be the equivalent of left wing Nazis and racists, the worst of the worst? Is being woke considered the same thing as being a proud racist?
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True, I probably did not account for those individuals on the left. The antifa types, etc. I admit I am biased and likely have some rose colored glasses as I do consider myself (mostly) as a progressive. I think most people here would put "progressive" in the left wing radical category, because most tend to associate "progressive" similarly with socialist, but I could be wrong...

I consider "progressive" differently in comparison to how the MSM (mainly CNN and MSNBC) have been trying to hijack the label for themselves and alter its meaning. Doesn't mean I agree with all of it. I namely disagree with the extremist ends of it, and the "woke" stuff, the cancel culture stuff (though I tend to think of that as more of a moderate liberal/centrist trend.

But as it is, I associate "progressive" with Bernie values. And I have had many conversations and some good private conversations in DMs with numerous people here about such issues. So I think the 10% is appropriate. I certainly couldn't put 0.

 
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ShamrockPride said:
True, I probably did not account for those individuals on the left. The antifa types, etc. I admit I am biased and likely have some rose colored glasses as I do consider myself (mostly) as a progressive. I think most people here would put "progressive" in the left wing radical category, because most tend to associate "progressive" similarly with socialist, but I could be wrong...

I consider "progressive" differently in comparison to how the MSM (mainly CNN and MSNBC) have been trying to hijack the label for themselves and alter its meaning. Doesn't mean I agree with all of it. I namely disagree with the extremist ends of it, and the "woke" stuff, the cancel culture stuff (though I tend to think of that as more of a moderate liberal/centrist trend.

But as it is, I associate "progressive" with Bernie values. And I have had many conversations and some good private conversations in DMs with numerous people here about such issues. So I think the 10% is appropriate. I certainly couldn't put 0.
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Based on the results, I am assuming that many people here would categorize progressives as radical left (it appears that some progressives are categorizing themselves in that group). So if radical left means you support single payer healthcare and free education, does radical right encompass the equivalent right side of that. Like people that would eliminate entitlement programs like Medicare and Social Security. I doubt those people would consider themselves as radical right, even though that seems just as radical as Bernie Sanders style progressives.

I guess it originates from my surprise that people would categorize themselves as radical. I find it a bit interesting that people have answered radical left but not radical right. Is it because radical right is defined more narrowly (ie. The worst of the worst) than the radical left (ie. Progressives in addition to the worst of the worst).

Edit: I am guess I am referring to the results from both this poll and the other poll about how people view themselves. Easy to confuse these threads.

 
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NorvilleBarnes said:
I'm a little surprised at people who thing the board is 40% (or more) conservative. My theory is that A) everyone is using their own definitions and B) there are a lot of left leaning people who consider themselves centrists.
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I'm going to summarize the data from this and the other poll. There will be some reconciling to do and it will be interesting to hear the theories.

 
tymarsas said:
I was just thinking about how I (and other people here) would define right wing radicals. This is an interesting comment because I would certainly agree that those would be considered right wing radicals. But does that mean that you consider 10% of the people here to be the equivalent of left wing Nazis and racists, the worst of the worst? Is being woke considered the same thing as being a proud racist?
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I'm thinking to start a thread where we try to define the left/right fringes. For example, is a 'The Election was Stolen' Trumper part of the right wing fringe? If you're ok with drag queens speaking to elementary school kids, are you part of the left wing fringe? 

 
NorvilleBarnes said:
I'm a little surprised at people who thing the board is 40% (or more) conservative. My theory is that A) everyone is using their own definitions and B) there are a lot of left leaning people who consider themselves centrists.
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I think that has a lot to do with how one thinks.  For example, someone who thinks the Republicans can do no wrong and loves Trump is probably likely to assume that those who do not share their views lean more to the left.  

 
Ghost Rider said:
I think that has a lot to do with how one thinks.  For example, someone who thinks the Republicans can do no wrong and loves Trump is probably likely to assume that those who do not share their views lean more to the left.  
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Perhaps but I don't know anyone - on this board or IRL - that thinks Trump can do no wrong.

 
I think those who lean Democrat outnumber those that lean Republican about 4 to 1.  Prior to Trump, it was more 60-40.   

 
I went 20, 70, 10, and 0.

The tough thing is what we each consider as a fit into those categories.

 
roadkill1292 said:
I can't think of any socialists on this board. Everybody seems to be somewhere on the capitalist spectrum.
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Im definitely socialist, but not as you may define it. I abhor the hairy legged cancel culture reprobates that ooze negativity. My version of socialism is high on individual liberties, as long as they do not harm others. 

I would call myself a northern European socialist. Free healthcare and education for all. Security of nation and populace paramount. Housing guaranteed. Essential services regulated to ensure no price gouging. Basic food and life necessities heavily price controlled. Taxation high, either direct or indirect. You can be rich. Hard work will be rewarded. You earn more than others? Congratulations on your success. Time for you to just do a little bit to help others not so fortunate. 

 
I didn’t vote, would just note two things

I think there is a big difference between member count and post count by these categories.  The radicals seem to post more imo.

I think radicals is sort of too sweeping.  There are posters that I think have radical positions on certain topics and would fit best in between “radical” and “moderate”

 
djmich said:
I didn’t vote, would just note two things

I think there is a big difference between member count and post count by these categories.  The radicals seem to post more imo.

I think radicals is sort of too sweeping.  There are posters that I think have radical positions on certain topics and would fit best in between “radical” and “moderate”
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Good point.  If we base it on post count radical left is easily 80-90%. 

 
NorvilleBarnes said:
I'm a little surprised at people who thing the board is 40% (or more) conservative. My theory is that A) everyone is using their own definitions and B) there are a lot of left leaning people who consider themselves centrists.
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The board is roughly 2/3 liberal.  That's a big change from the past when it was much more than that.

 
I would define the radical left and radical right, for the purposes of this forum, as anyone who almost always defends/props up only their "side" and (almost) never says anything bad about theirs. There are definitely some of those in both directions here. 

 
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