YouTubeTV (4 Viewers)

[belljr]

FWIW, I moved from Youtube TV to Hulu Live and it's been great.

I actually did the opposite and kept youtubetv and cancelled Disney plus

Do you not need any of the content on ESPN or ABC?

I'd argue we don't need any of it.

I miss a football game I'll survive

Sure. If you don't care about watching anything on ESPN or ABC, then this is a moot conversation.

I'm assuming people want to see the content on ESPN / ABC. Many had received this from Youtube TV. Now that's changed and people are looking for how they get what they want.

You're still missing my point for me. I watch NCAA and NFL on the regular. But I'm not up in arms for missing a couple games here and there. It's not the end of the world. If this really drags on then maybe I'll change my tune but for now I'm not paying extra on top of what I have to watch a couple ESPN games

YTtv carries all my local sports and Hulu doesn't, that's a bigger deal to me and even that I'm meh ..... When my team is only on Apple I just don't watch

When the woman's college worlds series comes around I might change my mind lol

My point is I don't care enough anymore with the giant corporations and their pissing matches to shell out more money just for a couple of games.

I also realize my "stance" is a losing one and an outlier. I'll miss the peacock playoff games this year because my free service ran out

Screw em all

 

[massraider]

I'm assuming people want to see the content on ESPN / ABC. Many had received this from Youtube TV. Now that's changed and people are looking for how they get what they want

You're assuming this is permanent then?

 

[pollardsvision]

FWIW, I moved from Youtube TV to Hulu Live and it's been great.

I actually did the opposite and kept youtubetv and cancelled Disney plus

Do you not need any of the content on ESPN or ABC?

I'd argue we don't need any of it.

I miss a football game I'll survive

Sure. If you don't care about watching anything on ESPN or ABC, then this is a moot conversation.

I'm assuming people want to see the content on ESPN / ABC. Many had received this from Youtube TV. Now that's changed and people are looking for how they get what they want.

You're still missing my point for me. I watch NCAA and NFL on the regular. But I'm not up in arms for missing a couple games here and there. It's not the end of the world. If this really drags on then maybe I'll change my tune but for now I'm not paying extra on top of what I have to watch a couple ESPN games

YTtv carries all my local sports and Hulu doesn't, that's a bigger deal to me and even that I'm meh ..... When my team is only on Apple I just don't watch

When the woman's college worlds series comes around I might change my mind lol

My point is I don't care enough anymore with the giant corporations and their pissing matches to shell out more money just for a couple of games.

I also realize my "stance" is a losing one and an outlier. I'll miss the peacock playoff games this year because my free service ran out

Screw em all

Right there with you brotha.

Unfortunately, this happened right at the beginning of the women's college basketball season.

Rest of the year, I don't give a damn. MNF? Can easily do without. Still got the rest of the NFL. Some college football, whatever. CBS and Fox have a ton of great games.

But women's college basketball? Disney basically owns it. Men's too.

From April to November, I'm glad to give Disney the middle finger.

 

[Moe.]

The thing that annoyed me was when they pulled all the Disney/ABC/ESPN stuff from YTTV, I thought I'd be able to pick up shows with my D+/Hulu/ESPN streaming bundle.

It worked for my regular shows, but not for sports. Even though I already pay for that bundle, ESPN wants me paying an additional $30/mth just to access their programming. All the D+ bundle gets me is low level sports that I'd never watch. Anything of substance costs additional money, or a Hulu Live subscription.

ESPN/Disney has gotten too greedy IMO. I hope they continue to lose money as they try to bleed their customers dry. I'm fine watching highlights on YT or TT for now. I'm in no rush to give them more money.

They long ago separated out ESPN+ content, I just don’t think people noticed. You were able to access the linear tv options because you had the YTTV subscription, and then the ESPN+ because you have that bundle. I don’t do ESPN+, so I could get the linear ESPN stuff on their app, but I couldn’t get ESPN+ stuff. Nothing really changed on that due to this dispute.

That is still ridiculous. You have subscribers already paying for your streaming service, and then you firewall off the more popular games into this new "ESPN+" area and tell people "Well you already pay X amount each month, but now you'll need to pay another $20/mth to watch anything worth watching". It's terrible.

Just to be clear - ESPN+ has always been their direct to consumer streaming brand. It’s the lower tier stuff that they own the rights to but isn’t good enough to make one of their channels. They were not contractually allowed to make their regular ESPN programming available to ESPN+ subscribers. You weren’t getting MNF with the Disney/ESPN+ bundle. That’s always been behind a subscription to a cable provider or streaming service that has a deal with ESPN.

I’m not trying to defend Disney here, but all of this has been inevitable for years now. All of the sports in one place is never coming back. Ever. These rights fees are too expensive, and that setup was never fair to be people who don’t watch sports.

 

[Moe.]

Fox is trying to do the same with Fox One, it’s only a matter of time there as well. Their cable offerings have never really been that great though.

 

[fruity pebbles]

FWIW, I moved from Youtube TV to Hulu Live and it's been great.

I actually did the opposite and kept youtubetv and cancelled Disney plus

Do you not want to watch any of the content on ESPN or ABC?

Not enough to switch. The kids are annoyed about losing Disney but those two freeloaders watch too much tv as is.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

The thing that annoyed me was when they pulled all the Disney/ABC/ESPN stuff from YTTV, I thought I'd be able to pick up shows with my D+/Hulu/ESPN streaming bundle.

It worked for my regular shows, but not for sports. Even though I already pay for that bundle, ESPN wants me paying an additional $30/mth just to access their programming. All the D+ bundle gets me is low level sports that I'd never watch. Anything of substance costs additional money, or a Hulu Live subscription.

ESPN/Disney has gotten too greedy IMO. I hope they continue to lose money as they try to bleed their customers dry. I'm fine watching highlights on YT or TT for now. I'm in no rush to give them more money.

They long ago separated out ESPN+ content, I just don’t think people noticed. You were able to access the linear tv options because you had the YTTV subscription, and then the ESPN+ because you have that bundle. I don’t do ESPN+, so I could get the linear ESPN stuff on their app, but I couldn’t get ESPN+ stuff. Nothing really changed on that due to this dispute.

That is still ridiculous. You have subscribers already paying for your streaming service, and then you firewall off the more popular games into this new "ESPN+" area and tell people "Well you already pay X amount each month, but now you'll need to pay another $20/mth to watch anything worth watching". It's terrible.

Just to be clear - ESPN+ has always been their direct to consumer streaming brand. It’s the lower tier stuff that they own the rights to but isn’t good enough to make one of their channels. They were not contractually allowed to make their regular ESPN programming available to ESPN+ subscribers. You weren’t getting MNF with the Disney/ESPN+ bundle. That’s always been behind a subscription to a cable provider or streaming service that has a deal with ESPN.

I’m not trying to defend Disney here, but all of this has been inevitable for years now. All of the sports in one place is never coming back. Ever. These rights fees are too expensive, and that setup was never fair to be people who don’t watch sports.

I don't mind paying Disney for ABC/ESPN/SEC/ACC and Fox for Fox/FS1/BTN, or even NBC for NBC/Peacock but just don't make me pay for all the weather, cooking, crime channels I never watch as well like YTTV does. And someone create an app where I can login to ESPN and FoxOne on the same app on my TV so I can easily flip back and forth between games. That ability alone might make a YTTV or simliar worth the extra cost.

 

[kupcho1]

And someone create an app where I can login to ESPN and FoxOne on the same app on my TV so I can easily flip back and forth between games. That ability alone might make a YTTV or simliar worth the extra cost.

Ironically, YTTV didn't carry my RSN so I had to subscribe to its standalone app. I know it's a first world problem, but not having the ability to simply change the channel during a commercial, between innings or periods, really annoyed me.

I guess it varies from region to region, but I like having my RSN as part of the package now.

ETA: I just received an email from DTV stating that as a subscriber, I can get 4 free months of Spotify Premium. I shot the lock off of the wallet years ago, but if I hadn't, I'd be all over this one.

 

[Joe Bryant]

FWIW, I moved from Youtube TV to Hulu Live and it's been great.

I actually did the opposite and kept youtubetv and cancelled Disney plus

Do you not need any of the content on ESPN or ABC?

I'd argue we don't need any of it.

I miss a football game I'll survive

Sure. If you don't care about watching anything on ESPN or ABC, then this is a moot conversation.

I'm assuming people want to see the content on ESPN / ABC. Many had received this from Youtube TV. Now that's changed and people are looking for how they get what they want.

You're still missing my point for me. I watch NCAA and NFL on the regular. But I'm not up in arms for missing a couple games here and there. It's not the end of the world. If this really drags on then maybe I'll change my tune but for now I'm not paying extra on top of what I have to watch a couple ESPN games

YTtv carries all my local sports and Hulu doesn't, that's a bigger deal to me and even that I'm meh ..... When my team is only on Apple I just don't watch

When the woman's college worlds series comes around I might change my mind lol

My point is I don't care enough anymore with the giant corporations and their pissing matches to shell out more money just for a couple of games.

I also realize my "stance" is a losing one and an outlier. I'll miss the peacock playoff games this year because my free service ran out

Screw em all

Sorry, but not missing your point at all.

If you don't care enough anymore, that's your answer.

 

[Joe Bryant]

I'm assuming people want to see the content on ESPN / ABC. Many had received this from Youtube TV. Now that's changed and people are looking for how they get what they want

You're assuming this is permanent then?

I tend to think Google and Disney will eventually figure it out. Too much money for them not to.

But consumer changes might be permanent. I'm getting everything I need now from Hulu LIve.

 

[jhib]

The only real reason we have YTTV is so my wife can easily watch tv when she wants to. Sports aren't of interest to her, so this doesn't affect that. The only network tv we consistently watch is Jeopardy, and anything on ABC that she/we might watch has rough equivalents on other networks. Most often we binge shows on Netflix, occasionally Amazon, and sometimes free months of Apple or a short temporary subscription to something like BBC. Also have the basic Hulu/Disney+/ESPN+ bundle included with Verizon, but seldom use that.

For sports, other than NFL games (which as a Giants fan hold less and less interest to me for some strange reason), I usually use Kodi anyway. YTTV dropped SNY shortly after I joined, so can't watch most Mets games there. You would think I'd be able to watch the NHL with ESPN, but just about every Devils game is blacked out in my area (even though I'm 4 hours away in an area with more Sabres and Rangers fans). I could pay separately for the SNY app and/or Gotham app, but no thanks. So I'm certainly not paying separately for more ESPN access. And I'm not letting Disney force me to switch to one of their carriers and annoy my wife by making her get used to a different system all because of something that doesn't affect her anyway.

 

[ghostguy123]

All these stupid companies are working together to get people to buy as many different services as possible

 

[Desert_Power]

Highest Paid ESPN Personalities 2025:​

#1: Stephen A. Smith – $20 million per year.
#2: Troy Aikman – $18–18.5 million per year.
#3: Pat McAfee – $17 million per year.
#4: Joe Buck – $15 million per year.
#5: Adam Schefter – $9 million per year.
#7: Michael Wilbon – $6 million
#8: Tony Kornheiser – $6 million

Good for Troy, I guess. He's really become my top color guy for the NFL. Amazing they pay so much to folks like Stephen A and McAfee to yell bad takes.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Highest Paid ESPN Personalities 2025:​

#1: Stephen A. Smith – $20 million per year.
#2: Troy Aikman – $18–18.5 million per year.
#3: Pat McAfee – $17 million per year.
#4: Joe Buck – $15 million per year.
#5: Adam Schefter – $9 million per year.
#7: Michael Wilbon – $6 million
#8: Tony Kornheiser – $6 million

Good for Troy, I guess. He's really become my top color guy for the NFL. Amazing they pay so much to folks like Stephen A and McAfee to yell bad takes.

I don't even watch Buck and Aikman when the Manning Cast is on.

 

[Brunell4MVP]

I'm fairly close to not watching sports at all. Money is a large part of it. Owners, players, networks, colleges, etc. Everyone wants more and every expense you see is paid for by us the viewer/fan. I've only watched about 8 football games this year, including college. I mostly watch the highlight reels (which I get we pay for too). It's just a time suck, especially with the endless number of commercials (which we also pay for by fueling corporate advertising budgets).

As I've aged, I'd rather be playing a sport than be a zombie watching them. So now most of my time is spent at bball, tennis, golf. I don't fault anyone for watching every single game. I used to. But the beast of pro/college sports is bigger than ever. It's a bit gross.

"There is no shortage of people trying to take your hard earned money". - No clue who said it

 

[WDIK2]

Still have access to Fox and CBS through YTTV, but going to try the free streaming options for the day.*

*-Not condoning or promoting this practice in any way.

 

[Desert_Power]

Highest Paid ESPN Personalities 2025:​

#1: Stephen A. Smith – $20 million per year.
#2: Troy Aikman – $18–18.5 million per year.
#3: Pat McAfee – $17 million per year.
#4: Joe Buck – $15 million per year.
#5: Adam Schefter – $9 million per year.
#7: Michael Wilbon – $6 million
#8: Tony Kornheiser – $6 million

Good for Troy, I guess. He's really become my top color guy for the NFL. Amazing they pay so much to folks like Stephen A and McAfee to yell bad takes.

I don't even watch Buck and Aikman when the Manning Cast is on.

Guests can be hit or miss for me. Hopefully BB goes back to doing it when he gets bought out in Chapel Hill.

 

[Les Nesman]

It’s absurd that in 2025, with “smart” TVs, 4K everything, and streaming services multiplying like rabbits, you still have to dig out an antenna just to watch ABC or a football game.


You’re paying a premium price for what feels like a patchwork system — a dozen apps, logins, blackout restrictions, and still no guarantee the game you want will actually be available without another add-on. It’s infuriating.


It’s like they’ve managed to reinvent cable TV… but somehow made it worse and more expensive.


edit - put my rant in chat gpt to make it sound less crazy

 

[Steve Tasker]

I am just tired. Work all week pay for now for local channels and whatever 800 other channels I get currently, and all I want to do is chill out and watch a good game. I have 6 tvs in the house and they are "SMART" tvs but I have to get an old school antenna to get ABC! Is this even real life. I feel like this is an episode of Punked. It is laughable and sad at the same time. Pay close to 150 bucks a month for tv and have to hook up rabbit ears to get ABC, or pay for another service. EAD everyone who is apart of this fiasco.

I bought an antenna this week, only to discover that my TV doesn't have the correct input to actually function with my TV. I'd have to buy an adapter for it. What a pain in the ***.

 

[Les Nesman]

I am just tired. Work all week pay for now for local channels and whatever 800 other channels I get currently, and all I want to do is chill out and watch a good game. I have 6 tvs in the house and they are "SMART" tvs but I have to get an old school antenna to get ABC! Is this even real life. I feel like this is an episode of Punked. It is laughable and sad at the same time. Pay close to 150 bucks a month for tv and have to hook up rabbit ears to get ABC, or pay for another service. EAD everyone who is apart of this fiasco.

I bought an antenna this week, only to discover that my TV doesn't have the correct input to actually function with my TV. I'd have to buy an adapter for it. What a pain in the ***.

I saw a guy on a video use just a paperclip? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEt_SgL5pDw&t=1s

 

[kupcho1]

put my rant in chat gpt to make it sound less crazy

Narrorator: It didn't work.

 

[themeanmachine]

I’ve wondered for a while where the business model for televised sports is going to wind up. So much of the blame in this gets pointed to YouTube or Disney, but it’s the media rights deals that are ultimately driving these costs, so team owners and ever increasing player salaries all factor into this. For years the non sports fan subsidized sports costs through cable and satellite packages, but as it gets more fragmented and the true cost further exposed, as much as we love our sports, I’m not sure how it can keep going up. There’s only so much I’m going to pay before I’ll start finding alternative ways of watching, and there’s only so much leagues and law enforcement can do to shut those down.

 

[ghostguy123]

Just curious, this past Monday which platforms actually had the game on?

I didn't even realize my YouTube tv got rid of CBS (or was it ABC? I don't know) and ESPN

 

[Joe Bryant]

FWIW, I moved from Youtube TV to Hulu Live and it's been great.

I actually did the opposite and kept youtubetv and cancelled Disney plus

Do you not need any of the content on ESPN or ABC?

I'd argue we don't need any of it.

I miss a football game I'll survive

Sure. If you don't care about watching anything on ESPN or ABC, then this is a moot conversation.

I'm assuming people want to see the content on ESPN / ABC. Many had received this from Youtube TV. Now that's changed and people are looking for how they get what they want.

You're still missing my point for me. I watch NCAA and NFL on the regular. But I'm not up in arms for missing a couple games here and there. It's not the end of the world. If this really drags on then maybe I'll change my tune but for now I'm not paying extra on top of what I have to watch a couple ESPN games

YTtv carries all my local sports and Hulu doesn't, that's a bigger deal to me and even that I'm meh ..... When my team is only on Apple I just don't watch

When the woman's college worlds series comes around I might change my mind lol

My point is I don't care enough anymore with the giant corporations and their pissing matches to shell out more money just for a couple of games.

I also realize my "stance" is a losing one and an outlier. I'll miss the peacock playoff games this year because my free service ran out

Screw em all

Right there with you brotha.

Unfortunately, this happened right at the beginning of the women's college basketball season.

Rest of the year, I don't give a damn. MNF? Can easily do without. Still got the rest of the NFL. Some college football, whatever. CBS and Fox have a ton of great games.

But women's college basketball? Disney basically owns it. Men's too.

From April to November, I'm glad to give Disney the middle finger.

Thanks. Are you saying you would buy the service just for Women's College Basketball?

 

[Joe Bryant]

Maybe getting close.

https://x.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1987264620583633270?s=20

 

[GroveDiesel]

I barely watch ESPN and ABC anymore. I’d be fine if it was gone forever. I’m certainly not switching to Hulu Live. Tried that when I was making the switch from cable and YTTV’s UI and value they offer is so much higher than Hulu there’s no way I’d move to Hulu for ABC/Hulu.

 

[pollardsvision]

FWIW, I moved from Youtube TV to Hulu Live and it's been great.

I actually did the opposite and kept youtubetv and cancelled Disney plus

Do you not need any of the content on ESPN or ABC?

I'd argue we don't need any of it.

I miss a football game I'll survive

Sure. If you don't care about watching anything on ESPN or ABC, then this is a moot conversation.

I'm assuming people want to see the content on ESPN / ABC. Many had received this from Youtube TV. Now that's changed and people are looking for how they get what they want.

You're still missing my point for me. I watch NCAA and NFL on the regular. But I'm not up in arms for missing a couple games here and there. It's not the end of the world. If this really drags on then maybe I'll change my tune but for now I'm not paying extra on top of what I have to watch a couple ESPN games

YTtv carries all my local sports and Hulu doesn't, that's a bigger deal to me and even that I'm meh ..... When my team is only on Apple I just don't watch

When the woman's college worlds series comes around I might change my mind lol

My point is I don't care enough anymore with the giant corporations and their pissing matches to shell out more money just for a couple of games.

I also realize my "stance" is a losing one and an outlier. I'll miss the peacock playoff games this year because my free service ran out

Screw em all

Right there with you brotha.

Unfortunately, this happened right at the beginning of the women's college basketball season.

Rest of the year, I don't give a damn. MNF? Can easily do without. Still got the rest of the NFL. Some college football, whatever. CBS and Fox have a ton of great games.

But women's college basketball? Disney basically owns it. Men's too.

From April to November, I'm glad to give Disney the middle finger.

Thanks. Are you saying you would buy the service just for Women's College Basketball?

I am. Some men's too (my Heels are back baby!)

You can watch a good chunk of a lot of sports without the Disney overlord, but not college basketball. Especially women's.

Disney owning the ACC and SEC Networks makes it really bad.

 

[WDIK2]

Still have access to Fox and CBS through YTTV, but going to try the free streaming options for the day.*

*-Not condoning or promoting this practice in any way.

Indiana vs Penn State was a flawless stream. Good picture and not a single "buffering" message. I had to back out of the Oregon vs Iowa game twice, but was able to get right back in. I can live with that. Watching the end of Auburn vs Vandy on the SEC Network now.

 

[ChiefD]

Haven’t missed espn at all today.

 

[belljr]

So I'm somehow watching LSU Alabama on ESPN +.....

 

[ChiefD]

So I'm somehow watching LSU Alabama on ESPN +.....

Look at you richie rich

 

[Les Nesman]

put my rant in chat gpt to make it sound less crazy

Narrorator: It didn't work.

Maybe chat gpt could have caught that typo?

 

[belljr]

So I'm somehow watching LSU Alabama on ESPN +.....

Look at you richie rich

It's still free for me damn it

 

[need2know]

Using 5 day trial of fubo. Cant wait to cancel it.

 

[BeTheMatch]

$20 bill credits going live

 

[Joe Bryant]

$20 bill credits going live

I wonder if that has any effect on people?

 

[Corporation]

It’s absurd that in 2025, with “smart” TVs, 4K everything, and streaming services multiplying like rabbits, you still have to dig out an antenna just to watch ABC or a football game.


You’re paying a premium price for what feels like a patchwork system — a dozen apps, logins, blackout restrictions, and still no guarantee the game you want will actually be available without another add-on. It’s infuriating.


It’s like they’ve managed to reinvent cable TV… but somehow made it worse and more expensive.


edit - put my rant in chat gpt to make it sound less crazy

I did this yesterday, it was actually kinda fun getting it exactly right. Then I told a friend and he said "Oh I can just give you my Hulu live password"

 

[BeTheMatch]

$20 bill credits going live

I wonder if that has any effect on people?

I still haven't decided what to do. Getting tired of the game.

 

[Joe Bryant]

For the $20 "credit", users must apply it themselves. Not an automatic credit. With as much trouble as they're causing customers, you'd think they wouldn't make the customer do more work to get it. But that's also the smart way to make sure most of the "credits" are never redeemed.

 

[fruity pebbles]

For the $20 "credit", users must apply it themselves. Not an automatic credit. With as much trouble as they're causing customers, you'd think they wouldn't make the customer do more work to get it. But that's also the smart way to make sure most of the "credits" are never redeemed.

Yeah that’s bullsh……..

 

[Joe Bryant]

And I think the $20 credit is for NEXT month's bill. Wow.

 

[ChiefD]

$20 bill credits going live

I wonder if that has any effect on people?

I will take my credit and be happy about it. Still not going to go seek out espn somewhere else.

All of this kind of stuff is just eroding my desire to watch tv. A good thing as far as I am concerned.

 

[ChiefD]

For the $20 "credit", users must apply it themselves. Not an automatic credit. With as much trouble as they're causing customers, you'd think they wouldn't make the customer do more work to get it. But that's also the smart way to make sure most of the "credits" are never redeemed.

Not that hard. Takes a minute or two?

I don’t blame YouTube for this. I blame disney for trying to extort people over to Hulu, which they own. I’m not falling for that.

 

[Joe Bryant]

For the $20 "credit", users must apply it themselves. Not an automatic credit. With as much trouble as they're causing customers, you'd think they wouldn't make the customer do more work to get it. But that's also the smart way to make sure most of the "credits" are never redeemed.

Not that hard. Takes a minute or two?

I don’t blame YouTube for this. I blame disney for trying to extort people over to Hulu, which they own. I’m not falling for that.

I'm not privy to the inside details of the negotiation. So I don't have a clear sense on who to "blame".

Others must have more inside information.

 

[jhib]

For the $20 "credit", users must apply it themselves. Not an automatic credit. With as much trouble as they're causing customers, you'd think they wouldn't make the customer do more work to get it. But that's also the smart way to make sure most of the "credits" are never redeemed.

And I think the $20 credit is for NEXT month's bill. Wow.

I agree it's not great that they don't just make it an automatic credit - and it's clearly to limit the total amount of money they are crediting - but on the other hand, most any of their customer's that are actually affected (those who actually miss the missing channels) and haven't already canceled are going to take the couple of minutes to redeem their credit. Now if there's any b.s. about the credit only showing as available to some customers and not others, then my opinion will obviously change.

And today's email says, "Over the next few days, you will receive a follow-up email with instructions on how to redeem your $20 credit for YouTube TV. Once redeemed, this will be applied to your next bill." Wouldn't you expect that to be how a credit would work? Applied to your next bill?

 

[3C's]

I'm pretty sure clicking a button in an email is not much work.

 

[dkp993]

I'm pretty sure clicking a button in an email is not much work.

The point is, why force the paying customer, who is not getting what they paid for due to no fault of their own, to do any work at all. A simple credit applied to everyone’s account is incredibly easy. To require work, for the obvious reason of knowing not everyone will do it, only reinforces the greed angle. It’s an incredibly poor look at a time where they could do right by their customers.

 

[Joe Bryant]

I'm pretty sure clicking a button in an email is not much work.

The point is, why force the paying customer, who is not getting what they paid for due to no fault of their own, to do any work at all. A simple credit applied to everyone’s account is incredibly easy. To require work, for the obvious reason of knowing not everyone will do it, only reinforces the greed angle. It’s an incredibly poor look at a time where they could do right by their customers.

Thank you.

 

[kupcho1]

I will take my credit and be happy about it. Still not going to go seek out espn somewhere else.

Really? You're happy about this?

All of this kind of stuff is just eroding my desire to watch tv. A good thing as far as I am concerned.

You know you can simply cancel any and all streaming services to make it an even better thing.

I don’t blame YouTube for this. I blame disney for trying to extort people over to Hulu, which they own. I’m not falling for that.

I'm not choosing sides on this. What's the point? Disney and Google Alphabet are for profit companies looking to maximize revenue. I don't blame Disney for trying to do the same thing YTTV is trying to do. Disney just happens to be pushing their point (unlike whichever content provider was in YTTV's last slap fight; seemed like whoever that was caved pretty quickly, likely to avoid losing even more money).

Is it a PITA to switch providers a hell of a lot more frequently than back in the "bad old days" of cable? Sure, but I'd rather optimize and get what I want for the lowest possible price. YMMV

Thanks to the YTTV v Disney standoff I've found a better content provider at a lower cost. I hope I don't have to change it anytime soon.

 

[Al Czervik]

Thanks for the heads up on the $20 credit. Was a little hard to find, but found the button to claim it (was at the bottom of the Settings area under "Updates").