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Zona Rb situation: LSH vs Beanie (1 Viewer)

Clifford

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Beanie was slated to start before LSH breakout game this week. Does LSH keep the job or does Beanie start? 50/50 split?

 
I'm guessing Beanie handles the early down and any GL looks they get with Hyphen being the third-down RB and getting some early down carries to spell Wells. Beanie's never been involved in the passing game so he was never going to be an option there.

 
I'm guessing Beanie handles the early down and any GL looks they get with Hyphen being the third-down RB and getting some early down carries to spell Wells. Beanie's never been involved in the passing game so he was never going to be an option there.
Exactly my thought...a one 2 punch...
 
Not sure how many games the Cardinals will run the ball 30 times. They're only averaging 22.7 rushing attempts per game thus far. I think it could be more like:

Wells: 10-15 carries per game/0 receptions

Hyphen: 5-6 carries per game/2-4 receptions per game

 
Well I don't think that has been by choice. Wells and Ryan Williams have been hurt most of the year. LSH has not been able to get going until yesterday. They've had to abandon the run altogether most weeks.

 
Well I don't think that has been by choice. Wells and Ryan Williams have been hurt most of the year. LSH has not been able to get going until yesterday. They've had to abandon the run altogether most weeks.
What makes you think anything will change now?
 
They're getting their 1st string RB back?
They couldn't run the ball well when Beanie was healthy. They still have a terrible o line; their QB situation looks like a current disaster. They may want to run the ball more and they probably do with Wells but I'm not sure the outlook is getting any better for them. In fact, it may be worse now given what's transpired at QB.
 
Lsh is not an every down back. He makes the largest impact as a return guy and change of pace...beanie will get the lions sharevof work if he fan stay healthy.

 
Lsh is not an every down back.
Do we know this for sure though?Just because he's small doesn't mean he can't be an effective all-purpose back - think Warrick Dunn or Charlie Garner. Not that I'm saying he's in their talent class by any stretch, just that size alone is not necessarily in and of itself an automatic deal breaker.
 
Well I don't think that has been by choice. Wells and Ryan Williams have been hurt most of the year. LSH has not been able to get going until yesterday. They've had to abandon the run altogether most weeks.
No matter the RBs, they've been bottom 5 in the NFL in rushing attempts every year since Whis took over. Absolutely zero reason to see things suddenly changing.
 
Beanie had 1000+ yards & 10 TDs in 14 games last year while being banged up. The Arizona Offense isn't any worse this year. Don't be surprised if Beanie is a RB2 the rest of the way despite the schedule, especially with the lack of RB2 type guys this year.

 
I could totally see them running the rock a bunch if it is a close game, which it could be. He is their best pass blocker and was the workhorse last year. Plus LSH was limited in practice, so who knows how much he will play come game time.

I wont totally discount the poor #'s earlier this year, but he was playing on that bum turf toe. I know STL has been decent against the run this year, but here are some things to consider

He had 2 awesome games last year, 6 good games and 6 bad games. He had 2 good games when began the year healthy and 2 more after missing week 3 with a hamstring tweak:

week 1 18/90 1td 4rec/12

week 2 14/93 1td

week 4 27/138 3td

week 5 20/60 1td

Last year vs STL

week 9 (home) 10/20 0td 2rec/13

week 12 (away) 27/228 1td

one thing you guys may need to fill me in on is how the line compares to last years, i dont follow the cards really.

he should be decent more than 50% of the time making a boom/bust fill in type player this week. plug him in and cross your fingers... :ph34r:

 
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Beanie had 1000+ yards & 10 TDs in 14 games last year while being banged up. The Arizona Offense isn't any worse this year. Don't be surprised if Beanie is a RB2 the rest of the way despite the schedule, especially with the lack of RB2 type guys this year.
Is this true? I don't remember their line being this much of a trainwreck last year. They are also potentially starting their third string QB
 
Beanie had 1000+ yards & 10 TDs in 14 games last year while being banged up. The Arizona Offense isn't any worse this year. Don't be surprised if Beanie is a RB2 the rest of the way despite the schedule, especially with the lack of RB2 type guys this year.
Is this true? I don't remember their line being this much of a trainwreck last year. They are also potentially starting their third string QB
from some quick research FBG had them the #22 ranked oline last year going into the season. this year they had them dead last. they are worse than last year because of the loss of Levi Brown and Jeremy Bridges in the preseason.
After their woeful collective performance against the Rams' pass rush -- a combined 15 pressures and eight sacks allowed -- offensive linemen D'Anthony Batiste, Bobby Massie and Adam Snyder can't hide from the obvious. They are starters in the NFL at the moment because of circumstance, and not because of their on-field assets.According to ProFootballFocus, both Batiste and Massie are the lowest ranked players at the tackle position, coming in at No. 68 and No. 69 respectively. While Snyder, an eight-year veteran, is ranked as the worst guard in the league.The rankings are based on screen blocking, run blocking, pass blocking, quarterback hits allowed, quarterback hurries allowed and sacks allowed.Last season, as a member of the 49ers, Snyder started 13 of 16 games at right guard, and also struggled in PFF's ranking system. Statistically, he finished as the third-worst right guard.Batiste is in his third season with the Cardinals, making just five previous appearances before 2012. Massie was a fourth round selection from Mississippi in April's draft.
 
Anyone see Beanie as a sneaky start with LSH being questionable. Last I heard they would limit his snaps, but if LSH doesn't go he could be in for a nice amount of touches his first game back.

I see this as a truly feast or famine opportunity, with him either putting up a couple of TDs and decent 70-80 yards or really doing nothing.

Could be a good roll of the dice for those of us desperate at RB.

 
I am starting without confidence.

Beanie is healthy and will get carries. The only limitation is going to be his conditioning. I would expect to see him get a very high percentage of the carries today. But, that could also mean about 15 carries.

His real value comes at the goal line. If the Cards get close they will give it to him.

 
I am starting without confidence.Beanie is healthy and will get carries. The only limitation is going to be his conditioning. I would expect to see him get a very high percentage of the carries today. But, that could also mean about 15 carries.His real value comes at the goal line. If the Cards get close they will give it to him.
Wish I was enjoying this with you. I hesitated and started j stew when the news came out the lsh was playing.
 

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