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Leeroy Jenkins
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packersfan
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I think the ending works best if we're to believe "the new you (Don)" smiling contently at the end is conjuring up the classic Coke jingle. We can imagine that he's purged himself of all his self-hatred and guilt and re-emerged a new person. So much of the series has been about Don's identity and who he is and who he thinks he should be and while much of Don's trip this episode bored me I did like his final scene meditating, smiling and possibly creating yet another identity that he can form for himself, this one (possibly) with a greater sense of purpose and direction.
Until that scene I thought the Don scenes were the weakest aspect of the episode. I thought the Peggy/Stan scene was terrific even though I don't for a second buy them being in love. But they sold it even if I thought it was completely unbelievable.
Really sucks that the final Don-Peggy scene was on the phone and their last face-to-face moment featured her going all #####y on him. So much of this show has been about their two characters that I really hoped for one final scene with them together.
Not really sure how I feel about the episode. I didn't hate it and I really liked the final scene but I think I'll need to watch it again to get a better feel for it.
Until that scene I thought the Don scenes were the weakest aspect of the episode. I thought the Peggy/Stan scene was terrific even though I don't for a second buy them being in love. But they sold it even if I thought it was completely unbelievable.
Really sucks that the final Don-Peggy scene was on the phone and their last face-to-face moment featured her going all #####y on him. So much of this show has been about their two characters that I really hoped for one final scene with them together.
Not really sure how I feel about the episode. I didn't hate it and I really liked the final scene but I think I'll need to watch it again to get a better feel for it.
Righetti
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The Peggy/Stan scenes were horrible
I thought the Sally scenes were great as were the ones with Joan and everything Roger
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Ted Lange as your Bartender
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So is the implication that newly at peace Don goes back to McCann and pens (arguably) the most famous ad jingle of all time?
Or was the Coke ad shown to contrast the (seemingly) purposeful happiness everybody seems to have found against the phony ongoing advertising "happiness" that Don spoke so highly of with the Lucky Strike execs in the first episode?
I'd prefer it was the latter, but I'm thinking it might be more the former.
Or was the Coke ad shown to contrast the (seemingly) purposeful happiness everybody seems to have found against the phony ongoing advertising "happiness" that Don spoke so highly of with the Lucky Strike execs in the first episode?
I'd prefer it was the latter, but I'm thinking it might be more the former.
Hang 10
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Agreed about Peggy and Stan. That phone call love confession was some twilight type bull####.
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pantherclub
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oy vey was that bad
like cringeworthy embarrassingly bad
You know its bad when the normal fluffers are even ducking this one
Sweet Jesus why get cute at the very end? It makes no sense.
like cringeworthy embarrassingly bad
You know its bad when the normal fluffers are even ducking this one
Sweet Jesus why get cute at the very end? It makes no sense.
Raider Nation
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Capella
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It really was good. And all about his family, which we really got not of here.
Dammit.
packersfan
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That little girl's become a pretty damn good actress. Sally ended up being one of the most interesting characters on the show.
Hang 10
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Jack White
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I hope my man Sepinwall didn't fall for this.
Officer Pete Malloy
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Could be. The ad was produced by somebody at McCann IRL.
I'm sure Weiner threw it in there to screw with everybody.
packersfan
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I suppose we're left to decide for ourselves but the connection of him with the hippies at the end and the hippies singing the jingle sure make it a pretty strong conclusion. That's how I'm gonna take it unless Weiner says otherwise. Hopefully he doesn't spend years dodging the question the way Chase did with his ending of The Sopranos.
pantherclub
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This guy gets it.
All of these storylines were wrapped up, why in the hell would you waste time revisiting them?
The commune angle was just egregiously cheap and unrewarding. Holy hell they couldnt have screwed the pooch any worse then they did. It was like Tropic Thunder does a season ending on a tv series.
packersfan
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Yes it was. I believe the guy who created it also had the same initials for his first and last name just like Don Draper.
Officer Pete Malloy
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I thought all of the other stories were done very well. I can't find any major faults with them.
I need to digest Don's a little more.
I need to digest Don's a little more.
packersfan
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That's how I feel too. I just don't buy Peggy and Stan together as a couple but I thought they nailed the scenes for what it's worth. Then again Moss can do no wrong by me on this show.
pantherclub
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" I cannot stand you when I am with you, but I miss you when I am not near you"
"I love you"
"what"
"I love you too"
::comes to the door:::
Effing yuck
I will say the Joan/cocaine scene had potential
Ilov80s
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Agree. I loved everything but Don, but I am convinced he made the Coke commercial which makes me really like it.
Ilov80s
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I always thought Stan and Peggy had a thing.
Hang 10
Footballguy
Tomorrow they will be saying how much better it was the second time they watched it.
packersfan
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If the whole point of that final scene wasn't that Don created the Coke jingle than it will fall way short for me. That was the redeeming aspect of his storyline tonight in my opinion.
packersfan
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Officer Pete Malloy
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Not getting the Pegistan hate. It makes sense and I thought was done well. The phone call was no more sappy than many of the other hyperdramatic scenes over the years.
Ilov80s
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We will never know for sure, but what else could it be? I agree that the final episode hinges on that.
Binky The Doormat
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Come on, I know a person or two was pushing this idea here - claim your victory.
No way am I manually searching through 130+ pages (tried the search ...ugh)
packersfan
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There's really no reason for the commercial to be in the episode unless we're being told Don was responsible for it. And when you consider how similar the images of him with the hippies morphing into the hippies singing the song I don't know how else it can be interpreted.
pantherclub
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They were just trolling, much like the loose window scene, the charles manson comment etc. Just a great big troll for the internet.
packersfan
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I don't know who said it here but that's been one of the most popular Internet theories for months now. Looks like someone got one of them right.
I did like the Manson reference, though. Nice dig by Weiner there.
Abraham
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packersfan
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I can see a line or a scene like that but not the ending to the entire series. I don't buy that.
Raider Nation
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They foreshadowed Coke throughout the season so much so that I looked up what was arguably the most iconic commercial of all time several weeks ago to see if it fit the time line.
Sheeesh Jim Hobart slowly sounded it out for everybody early on....CO-CA-COL-A'
Why the hell do you think Joan was doing......Coke?'
Sheeesh Jim Hobart slowly sounded it out for everybody early on....CO-CA-COL-A'
Why the hell do you think Joan was doing......Coke?'
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It was fine. Everybody hates finales.
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Officer Pete Malloy
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I'm starting to think that the biggest problem I have with the final scene was it looked silly. I'm warming to the basic idea of the scene but seeing Draper sitting there like a goon was queer. I would have gone with him grooving on the ocean or sunset or a freaking butterfly and then the peaceful smile.
Officer Pete Malloy
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